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A09107 A relation of the triall made before the King of France, vpon the yeare 1600 betvveene the Bishop of Eureux, and the L. Plessis Mornay About certayne pointes of corrupting and falsifying authors, wherof the said Plessis was openly conuicted. Newly reuewed, and sett forth againe, with a defence therof, against the impugnations both of the L. Plessis in France, & of O.E. in England. By N.D. Parsons, Robert, 1546-1610. 1604 (1604) STC 19413; ESTC S121884 121,818 242

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good_a to_o adjoine_v another_o supplement_n also_o of_o recrimination_n against_o diverse_a sort_n of_o man_n this_o of_o all_o other_o thing_n be_v like_o most_o to_o disgrace_v he_o when_o it_o come_v to_o examination_n for_o here_o will_v be_v fulfil_v the_o poet_n say_v vana_fw-la &_o sine_fw-la ●iribus_fw-la ira_fw-la much_o malice_n and_o little_a power_n all_o which_o will_v in_o part_n appear_v by_o some_o short_a note_n edition_n which_o in_o this_o place_n i_o mean_v to_o make_v upon_o every_o part_n of_o this_o work_n which_o be_v four_o to_o wit_n the_o epistle_n and_o preface_n the_o challenge_n renew_v the_o defence_n against_o o._n e._n and_o the_o recrimination_n against_o diverse_a to_o begin_v then_o with_o the_o first_o part_n part_n this_o whole_a work_n be_v dedicate_v to_o sr._n robert_n cecil_n now_o l._n cecil_n but_o with_o what_o reason_n every_o man_n will_v easy_o consider_v that_o know_v the_o author_n and_o who_o and_o what_o course_n he_o have_v follow_v and_o be_v acquaint_v with_o his_o speech_n of_o he_o whilst_o his_o best_a master_n be_v in_o authority_n for_o my_o part_n i_o refuse_v not_o the_o noble_a man_n judgement_n in_o this_o controversy_n between_o we_o of_o false_a and_o true_a dealing_v for_o that_o i_o assure_v myself_o that_o howsoever_o otherwise_o in_o affection_n he_o may_v stand_v aversed_a from_o our_o religion_n yet_o can_v his_o understanding_n be_v such_o as_o it_o be_v swerve_v in_o so_o evident_a a_o matter_n of_o fact_n as_o here_o we_o be_v to_o handle_v wherefore_o let_v we_o make_v if_o he_o please_v the_o l._n cecil_n judge_v and_o umpire_n in_o this_o our_o contention_n de_fw-fr crimine_fw-la fal●i_fw-la desiringe_v his_o honour_n to_o take_v so_o much_o pain_n as_o first_o to_o look_v back_o upon_o that_o which_o have_v hitherto_o be_v treat_v about_o mounseur_fw-fr plessis_n and_o then_o to_o stand_v attent_a to_o that_o which_o in_o this_o chapter_n we_o be_v to_o handle_v of_o matthew_n sutcliffe_n 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reader_n if_o person_n have_v not_o leisure_n to_o answer_v i_o let_v garnet_n or_o black_a well_o that_o be_v near_o supply_v for_o he_o it_o be_v a_o shame_n to_o begin_v a_o quarrel_n and_o to_o give_v it_o over_o first_o for_o one_o bout_n they_o have_v no_o reason_n to_o refuse_v i_o here_o now_o i_o suppose_v my_o l._n cecil_n must_v needs_o smile_v to_o see_v the_o man_n so_o earnest_a to_o have_v one_o bout_n especial_o when_o he_o shall_v have_v understand_v that_o some_o five_o or_o six_o book_n be_v out_o against_o he_o upon_o the_o sudden_a &_o each_o one_o of_o they_o gevinge_v he_o so_o many_o boot_v as_o at_o length_n by_o reelinge_n the_o poor_a fellow_n be_v on_o the_o ground_n albeit_o i_o must_v confess_v that_o catholic_a writer_n be_v come_v now_o in_o such_o a_o loathinge_n and_o contempt_n of_o this_o man_n work_n &_o write_n both_o for_o the_o vanity_n of_o the_o matter_n therein_o contain_v and_o perpetual_a scurrility_n of_o word_n infect_v the_o same_o as_o 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11._o q._n 3._o august_n cont_n epist_n fundamenti_fw-la cap._n 5._o how_o transubstantiation_n be_v beleve_v from_o the_o begin_v scot._n ibid._n do_v 11._o q._n 3._o durands_n objection_n li._n 4._o scent_n do_v 11._o q._n 3._o the_o sum_n of_o the_o ●_o controversy_n sup._n cap._n 2d_o o._n e._n his_o reply_n refut_n pag._n 13._o o._n e._n his_o error_n in_o part_n excuse_v &_o in_o part_n aggravate_v two_o notorious_a untruth_n about_o durand_n durand_n primum_fw-la patet_fw-la authoritate_fw-la sanctorun_n &_o ex_fw-la determinatione_fw-la ecclesiae●_n do_v 11._o q._n 1._o n._n 9_o bellar._n i._n 3._o the_o eucharist_n c._n ●1_n act_n fol._n 52._o sup._n cap._n 2._o chrysost._n ●om_n in_fw-ge ●_o epist_n ad_fw-la thessaly_n thessaly_n supra●_n cap._n 2._o o._n e._n refut_n pag._n 13._o 2._o falsifica●ions_n of_o plessis_n two_o falsehood_n of_o o._n e._n chrysost._n ibid._n o._n e._n refut_n ibid._n refut_n ibid._n impudentinglinge_v of_o plessis_n &_o of_o his_o attornay_n o._n e._n another_o contradiction_n between_o o._n e._n and_o plessis_n plessis_n supra_fw-la cap._n 2._o loc_n 3._o act_n fol._n 57_o chrysost._n hom_n 5._o in_o math._n o._n e._n seek_v to_o be_v obscure_a oftentimes_o of_o purpose_n o._n e._n refut_n pag._n 14_o refut_n ●ib_fw-la the_o state_n of_o the_o question_n and_o o._n e._n his_o impertinency_n the_o second_o charge_n more_o foolish_o answer_v then_o the_o former_a o._n e._n refut_n pag._n 1●_n o._n e._n refut_n ibid._n a_o false_a and_o ridiculous_a conclusion_n act_n fol._n 65._o hier._n l._n 4._o in_o ezech._n cap._n 14._o sup._n cap._n 2._o wilful_a obscurity_n of_o o._n e._n o._n e._n refut_n pag._n 14_o a_o obscure_a narration_n of_o the_o state_n of_o the_o question_n hier._n ibid._n discourse_v veritable_a pag._n 148._o gloss._n in_o cap._n 14._o in_o ezech._n the_o b._n of_o eureux_fw-fr unlucky_a only_o to_o hugonot_n o._n e._n refut_n ibid._n o._n e._n take_v in_o most_o clear_a absurdity_n eureux_fw-fr in_o refut_n of_o plessis_n false_a discourse_n fol._n 141._o 132._o 243._o &_o de_fw-fr inceps_fw-la hier._n l._n 2._o in_o epist_n ad_fw-la gala._n disecous_n du_fw-fr pless_n pag._n 4●_n refut_n fol._n 144._o &_o 146._o 147._o hier._n ep_n 2._o cont_n vigilant_a anotable_a place_n of_o s._n hier._n against_o the_o heretic_n of_o this_o time_n act_n fol._n 70_o &_o refut_n fol._n 148._o lib._n 6._o cont_n julian_n refut_n of_o discourse_n fol._n 147._o o._n e._n refut_n pag._n 15_o a_o very_a poor_a defence_n of_o plessis_n by_o o._n e._n three_o new_a untruth_n bring_v for_o a_o supply_n by_o o._n e._n to_o help_v out_o his_o client_n client_n supra_fw-la cap._n 2._o lo●_n 6._o a_o fraudulent_a equivocation_n of_o the_o word_n cross_v take_v of_o the_o author_n for_o a_o gibbet_n or_o gallows_n lib._n 1._o cod._n tit_n 9_o nemini_fw-la licere_fw-la vel_fw-la in_o sol●_n vel_fw-la in_o marmoribus_fw-la humi_fw-la positis_fw-la sculpere_fw-la etc._n etc._n o._n e._n refut_n pag._n 15._o an_o other_o defence_n of_o o._n e._n a_o obscure_a defence_n by_o o._n e._n sup._n cap._n 2._o acts._n fol._n 77._o 77._o this_o be_v false_a for_o it_o be_v theodosius_n the_o second_o &_o valentinian_n the_o three_o pet._n crinit_fw-la lib._n 9_o the_o honesty_n disciplin●_n cap._n 9_o a_o vain_a calumniation_n of_o o._n e._n against_o trebonian_n lib._n 1._o cod_n tit_n 8._o nemini_fw-la licere_fw-la etc._n etc._n another_o cavil_v return_v upon_o o._n e._n about_o old_a original_n pretend_v by_o o._n e._n crinit_fw-la l._n 9_o de_fw-fr hom_n disciplin●_n cap._n 9_o o_o e._n foy●●_n about_o his_o ne●_n original_n o_o e_o refut_n pag._n 15._o act_n fol._n 8●_n 2_o 83._o &_o refut_n fol._n ●69_n 170._o cod_n theod._n lib._n 16._o tit_n 10._o the_o canon_n of_o the_o council_n of_o el●●eris_n a●●●●red_v discourse_n pag._n 55._o act_n fol._n ●3_n ber●_n ep_n 174._o o._n e._n refut_n pag._n 16._o o._n e._n refut_n ibid._n how_o heretic_n do_v allege_v cath._n author_n author_n see_v the_o confutation_n of_o o._n e._n his_o challenge_n by_o vv._n r._n chal._n 3._o ●_o 9_o n._n 61._o 62._o and_o 3_o conver_n of_o england_n part_n 2._o cap._n 2._o ●_o 21._o 22._o act_n fol._n 90._o theodor._n come_v in_o psal._n 113._o the_o state_n of_o the_o question_n o._n e._n pag._n 17._o of_o his_o refut_n heretical_a corruption_n in_o translatinge_v m._n martin_n discovery_n print_v as_o 1582._o cap._n 1._o refut_n of_o discourse_n fol._n 184._o 155._o etc._n etc._n o._n e._n refut_n ibid._n a_o notorious_a shift_a answer_n o_o e._n refut_n pag._n ●7_n ●7_n see_v this_o to_o be_v fal●e_n cap._n 1._o ibid._n p._n 19_o 19_o a_o break_a head_n ibidem_fw-la great_a brag_n the_o cause_n of_o the_o second_o edition_n of_o s●tcliffes_n fond_a challenge_n 4._o part_n of_o sutcliffes_n new_a edition_n 1._o part_n sutcliffes_n foolish_a vaunt_a sutcliffe_n account_v falsification_n for_o trifle_n ad_fw-la by-matter_n of_o what_o importance_n catholik_o do_v hold_v false_a dealing_v to_o be_v diverse_a degrea_n of_o falsehood_n &_o falsification_n decius_n in_o i_o 1._o ff_n de_fw-fr reg._n iur_fw-fr sutcliffe_n will_v authorise_v the_o rest_n of_o his_o book_n by_o a_o privilege_n of_o the_o civil_a law_n challenge_n 3._o cap._n 9_o in_o his_o preface_n to_o the_o reader_n the_o confutation_n of_o a_o ridiculous_a answer_n of_o master_n sutcliffe_n the_o second_o part_n of_o his_o edition_n edition_n entitle_v a_o brief_a &_o clear_a confutation_n of_o avaine_n &_o vaunt_a challenge_n of_o o._n e._n minister_n etc._n etc._n by_o vv._n r._n 1603._o the_o three_o part_n of_o this_o edition_n sutcliffes_n immodesty_n sutcliffes_n scold_v the_o first_o place_n of_o sutcliffes_n 〈…〉_z 〈…〉_z answer_v to_o except_o pag._n 1._o the_o hole_n open_v by_o sutcliffe_n to_o run_v out_o at_o the_o interpretation_n of_o statute_n by_o a_o good_a fellow_n student_n in_o oxford_n answer_v to_o except_v pag._n 5._o magdeburg_n cent_n 2._o 3._o 4._o cap._n 6._o examination_n of_o the_o second_o place_n sess._n 7._o can._n 5._o answer_v to_o except_v pag._n 5._o the_o first_o notable_a shift_n aug._n l._n 3._o the_o orig_n animae_fw-la ad_fw-la vinc._n vict._n cap._n 9_o asnamelesse_a shift_v of_o of_o s._n austen_n and_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o father_n aug._n epist_n 28._o ad_fw-la hieron_n the_o 3._o shift_n the_o five_o shift_n and_o cozenage_n the_o fi●th_v absurd_a evasion_n upon_o this_o place_n answer_v to_o except_v section_n 4._o pag._n 13._o examination_n of_o the_o 4._o place_n about_o mass_n &_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a answer_v to_o except_o pag._n 11._o s._n chrysostom_n sentence_n of_o prayinge_v for_o the_o dead_a in_o the_o masle_n chrysost._n hom_n 69._o ad_fw-la pop._n antloch_n s_o epiphanius_n 10._o calni●_n s._n augustine_n willett_n sutcliffes_n first_o shift_n 2._o shift_n mass_n for_o the_o dead_a in_o the_o primitive_a church_n august_n de_fw-fr cura_fw-la pro_fw-la mortuis_fw-la cap_n 1._o 9_o conf._n 110_o cyp._n epist_n 66_o ad_fw-la clerum_fw-la sutcliffes_n shiftinge_a answer_n to_o saint_n chrysostome_n chrysostome_n sacerdotalis_fw-la plenitudo_fw-la constiterit_fw-la how_o sutcliffe_n shisi_v of_o epiphanius_n &_o s._n augustine_n about_o aërius_n &_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a aug._n haer_fw-mi 53._o epiphan_n haer_fw-mi 75._o the_o beginning_n and_o cause_n of_o aërius_n his_o heresy_n three_o several_a shift_n of_o sutcliffe_n to_o deceive_v his_o reader_n ibid._n pag._n 13._o ibidem_fw-la aug_n enchirid_a cap._n 110._o three_o sort_n of_o man_n desceased_a how_o sutcliffe_n shift_v of_o calvin_n and_o will●tt_n calu._n 3_o justitat_fw-la cap._n 5._o §._o 10._o hom._n 30._o in_o epist_n ad_fw-la phillippens_n hom._n 69._o ad_fw-la pop._n antio●hen_o a_o notorious_a untrut_v he_o about_o pray_v a_o for_o patriarch_n and_o not_o to_o they_o cyrill_n cath._n myst._n 5._o ●asel_n liturg_n &_o in_o anaph_n syriaca_fw-la aug._n track_v 84._o in_o joan_n &_o serm_n 17._o de_fw-la verbis_fw-la apostol_n a_o consideration_n about_o sutcliffes_n manner_n of_o write_v the_o 4._o part_n or_o principal_a member_n of_o this_o edition_n sutcliffes_n objection_n to_o two_o of_o f._n person_n book_n answer_v to_o except_v pag._n 182._o answeren_a to_o except_v ibid._n eight_o fond_a objection_n against_o the_o book_n of_o resolution_n resolution_n this_o be_v only_o set_v down_o for_o you_o and_o you_o to_o draw_v they_o from_o atheism_n the_o conclusion_n sutcliffe_n a_o knight_n of_o the_o post_n in_o be_v suerry_n for_o many_o a_o censure_n of_o sutcliffes_n write_n sutcliffes_n raylinge_v in_o praefat._n to_o the_o reader_n sutcliffes_n barbarous_a conclusion_n against_o catholic_n blood_n answer_n cap._n 13._o