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A14706 The spectacle of louers here after foloweth a lytell contrauers dyalogue bytwene loue and councell, with many goodly argumentes of good women and bad, very compendyous to all estates, newly compyled by wyllyam walter seruaunt vnto syr Henry Marnaye knyght Chauncelour of the Duchye of Lancastre. Walter, William, fl. 1520. 1533 (1533) STC 25008; ESTC S111572 13,622 34

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in to dystresse I loue and dare not my loue to her expresse That hath my herte hoolly in her cure Meruayle it is that I maye this woo endure ¶ I loue a lady whose beauty dothe excell Lyke as aurora all other sterres in lyght Of her noble vertue the trewthe I can not tell Nature and fortune hath gyuen her that myght Her noble beaute hath persed so my syght Enflamynge my herte by desyre contynuall That vnto loue I am made bonde and thrall ¶ Consultor ¶ Suche dysordynat loue procedeth of ydelnesse To beholde women hauynge delectacyon whiche by contynuaunce dothe more more encrese Encensynge theyr myndes by besy Imagynacyon To fynde the crafte and operacyon To brynge poore women in to suche dotage In theyr loue that they myght madde and rage ¶ Some to theyr louers tokyns do sende Other delyte them in goodly apparell Some other in wrytynge theyr louers do commende And by false ꝓmyses procure them to do yll Other lewde tales of rybaudry to tell And to hote meates and drynkes women desyre By suche prouocacyon to set theym on a fyre ¶ Thus do they dayly and study in theyr mynde How folysshe women that they myght abuse And yf by chaunce ony suche they fynde Than for a tyme they wyll theym haunt and vse And for an other soone after theym refuse They do not care how many they begyle For suche madde loue lasteth but a whyle ¶ Amator ¶ what man is he that wolde hym selfe abstayne From beholdynge of so noble a creature Or what is he that wolde not take greate payne Yf that he myght to purchase suche a treasure whiche myght be moost to his synguler pleasure God neuer created thynge vnder the fyrmament So noble as woman nor to man more conuenyent ¶ And where as ye saye men haue great delectacyon To dysdayne women by some subtyll trayne And to be mutable of theyr dysposycyon Trouthe it is trewe loue wyll neuer stayne But to be stedfast trewe faythfull and playne Though some entende to women to do shame All trewe louers of theym are not to blame ¶ Consultor ¶ Trewe loue nay nay madde loue men may it call A foole is he he can it not deny Where he is free to make hym bonde and thrall In louynge a woman with herte so stedfastly Whiche by his loue in no meane can apply Yet from her loue he can hym not refrayne Though that he knew his loue spe●● in vayne ¶ Suche is the condycyon of louers impacyent That do desyre that they may not attayne Whiche to theyr degrees is not equiualent Yet by reason they can not theym refrayne But of theyr possybylyte to complayne Of the dyffycultye they seke no remedy Bothe counsell and shame they vtterly deny ¶ Amator ¶ Why sholde not men loue women in theyr mynde Syth that brute beestes do loue theyr semblable All thynge is gouerned by nature and by kynde And syth that nature in beestes is so stable Why sholde not a man a creature reasonable Loue a woman syth nature dothe hym bynde Wolde ye haue men erre agaynst theyr kynde Specta of lo. ¶ We louers haue alway suche harde chaunce Some for to loue ferre vnder theyr degre Or theym selfe more greatly do auaunce We neuer be at our owne lyberte To haue respecte vnto the qualyte Nature hathe vs in suche subieccyon There to loue where we ought not of reason ¶ Loue her I wyll whyle my lyfe shall last What so euer therof here after shall ensewe My herte and wyll shall euer be stedfast Her onely to loue as a louer trewe Reason nor counsell my mynde can not subdewe No shame it is to loue in honeste Though that she passe ferre aboue my degre ¶ Consultor ¶ What man is so madde to loue his ennemy Whiche dayly putteth hym to suche encombraunce That at no tyme he can rest quyetly Nor many tymes take bodyly sustenaunce But leseth his colour and mysspendeth his substaunce His credence his vertue and all his good name For suche madde loue wyse men wyll hym dyffame ¶ Suche vyces ensue madde louers comynly They are suspicyous and theym do deedly hate That with theyr louers vse to company And with theym often fyght chyde and debate Moche myschefe ensueth they be infortunate Now in now out this is theyr condycyon Some lose theyr lyfe some theyr wyt and reason ¶ Amator ¶ Of a noble herte procedeth gentylnesse wolde ye haue me my louer to dysdayne Though she be parte of my greate heuynesse I am chefe grounde of my mortall payne Though I her loue she can me not refrayne why sholde I her for my mysfortune blame Syth I my selfe am chefe cause of the same ¶ It was neuer my purpose wyll nor mynde By suche mysgouernaunce my selfe to abuse No false susspeccyons in me shall she fynde For by good cause my loue she myght refuse Yf that therin I myght me not excuse Though I her loue yet wyll I not go madde Nor lose my lyfe my wyt is not so badde ¶ I meruayle that ye loue so despyse whiche of hertely kyndnesse is engendred Nature a man there vnto dothe entyse Of myrthe and pleasure it dothe also procede Frendshyp and charyte there with all agrede Rancoure and malyce it destroyeth vtterly All thynge by it dothe growe and multyply ¶ Loue dothe quycken euery mannes herte It prouoketh the mynde to pleasure and lustynesse Slouthe and sadnesse it causeth to departe Strength and manhode by it dothe encresse It haieth penury it loueth largesse Loue causeth a man to haue delyte and pleasure with a woman to do the course of nature ¶ Consultor ¶ For asmoche as ye he taken in the snare Therfore ye do loue more greatly auaunce But in loue there is sorowe and care It consumeth a man by space and contynuaunce The lenger ye loue the more is your greuaunce Loue brenneth theym so with her cruell fyre The more they take the more they do desyre ¶ Theyr laughters ben shorte theyr mournynges are longe Full lytell ioye but syghes many and greate In plente of sorowe small pleasure is amonge Anger and trouble theyr hertes dothe ofte frete Slepynge nor wakynge they be in quyete In thought and desyre they brenne feruently Suche dolefull payne they suffre wylfully ¶ Amator ¶ Loue is not so as ye haue made reporte women to men are moost profytable Theyr wordes and beaute dothe men greate conforte Theyr kysses and lokes are moche delectable To myrthe and ioye they be agreable where that woman be there is greate solace Happy is he that maye attayne theyr grace ¶ We wylfull louers do lyue pleasauntly To vs by kynde it is appropryed Somtyme to suffer sorowe pacyently And in ioye agayne to be exalted A thynge harde wonne shall better be loued He that wyll not suffre suche lytell payne Is not worthy suche pleasure to attayne ¶ Consultor ¶ O foolysshe louer false is thy sentence To thynke thy payne to be to the pleasure For well thou doest
that ●ny man can fynde ¶ Why sholde not women of theyr tongues be ryse To plede theyr causes theyr trewthe to veryfy They haue none other armoure dyffensyfe Theyr power is to feble theyr wronges to iustyfy To speke nor to do none can lyue so pacyently Though that they chyde theyr angre is soone past Theyr wordes of wynde is lyckened to ablast ¶ Ten monethes women with theyr chyldren go And of theyr bodyes that tyme be they nourysshed with panges and stytches they suffer payne and wo In peryll of dethe whan they be delyuered with theyr mylke after a season they be fed Moche payne and trouble our mothers for vs take wherfore all women we ought to loue for theyr sake ¶ To make of women men sholde be gladde and fayne Syth they to vs be so tendre with dylygence One man for another wolde not take the payne Theyr kyndnesse we can not duely recompence To loue theym we haue good cause by experyence They are so moche our frendes in sycknesse in helthe He that theym hateth loueth not his welthe ¶ Consultor ¶ We wyll no lenger in these maters debate Folowe my counsell his company eschewe Yf ye entende your sorowe to mytygate In secrete places do not ye contynue Imagynacyons thoughtes your mynde wyl subdue wherfore suche hauntes yf ye do not cease Loue wyll in you more and more encrease ¶ Experyence by fyre whiche is nygh quenched with brymstone it wyll be kyndled soone agayne In lykewyse loue yf it be frequented wherfore from her loue do your selfe refrayne Fynde some occasyon at her to dysdayne To desyre her loue be not ye to madde Except of yours that she wolde be as gladde ¶ Amator ¶ To gyue me suche coūsell me thynke ye be not wyse Your sugred lyppes can not me begyle For yf I sholde folowe your aduyse My lyfe wolde contynue but a small whyle From her company I can not me exyle To leue that thynge whiche that I loue best No reasonable man wyll make no suche request ¶ Wherfore of this talkynge now lette vs cease Eusamples I haue ryght many and excellent Theyr wysedome and noblenesse for to encrease But at this tyme these shall be competent Wherfore from hensforthe leue your false argument And of women speke not so reprouable For shame it is to you and nothynge commendable ¶ Consultor ¶ Thus dyd we fynysshe our communycacyon Desyrynge the assystence to take this agreable And in that is amysse to make reformacyon And also all women I humbly theym supply At this poore treatyse for to haue none enuye I haue nothynge sayd that is to theyr dysprayse But I haue made answer theyr honour more to rayse ¶ But for asmoche as some men haue delectacyon To rayle vpon women and theym to dyscommende I therfore entende to make demonstracyon Of theyr opprobryous wordes wherin they do offende By reasonable answeres to enduce theym to amende Wherby they may haue perfytly knowlege That women be not gyite in that they do allege ¶ Wherfore I requyre you consyder myne entent Whiche made it not for malyce or ony despytefulnesse For yf I sholde so do I were ryght neclygent And worthy to be rebuked of shame and vngentylnesse Bothe prayse and dysprayse herin I do expresse Yf I deserue blame in spekynge so largely I trust to haue thanke for replyenge the contrary ¶ Lenuoy of Robert Coplande ENdeuer thy selfe thou lytell boke I pray To thyne auctoure and vnto eche degre Excusynge thyne impressyon alway Yf to theyr mynde it fortune not to be And where mysse is that they wyll pardon me And to correct after theyr good entent With lesse or more as it is conuenyent ¶ Finis ¶ Imprynted at London in Fletestrete at the sygne of the Sonne by me Wynkynde worde ▪ W C mynhyg de worde