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A20517 A reply to M. Nicholas Smith, his discussion, of some pointes of M. Doctour Kellison his treatise of the hierarchie. By a divine Divine.; Lechmere, Edmund, d. 1640?; Kellison, Matthew. 1630 (1630) STC 6929; ESTC S109712 163,687 351

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modo_fw-la saltem_fw-la inchoativen_fw-mi in_o statu_fw-la perfectionis_fw-la wherefore_o i_o think_v that_o priest_n by_o virtue_n of_o their_o order_n have_v a_o state_n high_o and_o holy_a which_o require_v of_o they_o certain_a work_n of_o perfection_n by_o reason_n of_o which_o obligation_n they_o worthy_o may_v be_v say_v to_o be_v in_o some_o manner_n in_o a_o state_n of_o perfection_n at_o least_o inchoative_a that_o be_v imperfectlie_o and_o in_o a_o certain_a beginning_n and_o a_o little_a before_o he_o say_v that_o the_o diversity_n of_o opinion_n in_o this_o thing_n be_v rather_o in_o the_o manner_n of_o speak_v then_o in_o the_o thing_n itself_o as_o indeed_o it_o seem_v to_o be_v for_o if_o we_o understand_v by_o a_o state_n of_o perfection_n a_o state_n which_o be_v immovable_a as_o the_o priest_n be_v by_o reason_n of_o the_o character_n and_o which_o be_v ordain_v to_o high_a and_o excellent_a function_n and_o which_o therefore_o require_v sanctity_n of_o the_o priest_n and_o make_v his_o sin_n the_o great_a then_o the_o state_n of_o a_o simple_a priest_n be_v high_a than_o any_o regular_o state_n be_v but_o if_o we_o understand_v by_o a_o state_n of_o perfection_n a_o state_n that_o be_v bind_v to_o work_n of_o supererogation_n such_o as_o be_v the_o work_n of_o the_o three_o counsel_n poverty_n chastity_n and_o obedience_n than_o the_o priest_n state_n be_v not_o in_o that_o sense_n a_o perfect_a state_n of_o perfection_n because_o chastitite_n except_v he_o be_v not_o bind_v to_o the_o counsel_n and_o work_n of_o supererogation_n which_o be_v instrument_n by_o which_o perfection_n be_v attain_v but_o yet_o as_o not_o with_o stand_v that_o the_o bishop_n be_v not_o oblige_v to_o such_o work_n of_o supererogation_n for_o neither_o be_v he_o bind_v to_o poverty_n nor_o to_o obedience_n to_o any_o but_o the_o pope_n and_o yet_o by_o s_n thomas_n and_o all_o man_n opinion_n be_v in_o a_o high_a state_n of_o perfection_n than_o the_o regular_a by_o reason_n that_o his_o state_n be_v so_o immovable_a that_o he_o can_v leave_v his_o church_n without_o licence_n of_o the_o pope_n and_o he_o be_v by_o his_o state_n oblige_v to_o more_o eminent_a function_n and_o great_a charity_n which_o be_v to_o die_v for_o his_o sheep_n so_o the_o priest_n because_o his_o state_n be_v immovable_a by_o his_o character_n and_o be_v ordain_v to_o high_a function_n as_o the_o consecrate_v of_o christ_n body_n offer_v of_o the_o dreadful_a and_o unbloudie_a sacrifice_n absolve_a from_o sin_n if_o he_o have_v complete_a jurisdiction_n may_v seem_v to_o be_v in_o a_o high_a state_n than_o a_o regular_a not_o priest_n 49._o now_o as_o concern_v pastor_n inferior_a to_o bishop_n who_o be_v not_o only_o priest_n but_o also_o have_v charge_n of_o soul_n it_o seem_v more_o probable_a that_o they_o be_v in_o a_o state_n of_o perfection_n high_o and_o perfect_a than_o the_o state_n of_o a_o regular_a not_o pastor_n 5._o garson_n trae_fw-la de_fw-fr statu_fw-la perfect_a alpha_fw-la 67._o l._n v._o ●_o p._n 〈…〉_o 12._o q._n 28_o &_o 29._o 〈…〉_o in_o 4_o l._n ●_o ●_o q._n 7._o suaraz_n c._n 17._o n._n 5._o and_o this_o be_v affirm_v by_o gerson_n henricus_fw-la de_fw-la gandavo_fw-la and_o mayor_n who_o suarez_n in_o the_o same_o chapter_n allege_v and_o thus_o they_o prove_v their_o opinion_n because_o they_o by_o their_o office_n be_v bind_v to_o work_n very_o perfect_a to_o wit_n to_o minister_v sacrament_n to_o preach_v and_o to_o govern_v soul_n which_o be_v the_o art_n of_o art_n and_o to_o take_v care_n and_o charge_n of_o they_o to_o perfect_a illuminate_v and_o purge_v they_o and_o to_o yield_v when_o the_o occasion_n be_v offer_v their_o life_n for_o they_o to_o which_o action_n regulars_n not_o pastor_n be_v not_o ordain_v or_o oblige_v this_o the_o aforesaid_a and_z we_o confirm_v because_o the_o disciple_n who_o christ_n send_v two_o and_o two_o to_o preach_v be_v in_o a_o state_n of_o perfection_n next_o to_o the_o apostle_n but_o pastor_n succeed_v to_o they_o as_o bishop_n do_v to_o the_o apostle_n ergo_fw-la they_o be_v in_o a_o state_n of_o perfection_n and_o next_o to_o the_o state_n of_o bishop_n and_o for_o this_o to_o wit_n that_o inferior_a pastor_n succeed_v to_o the_o disciple_n suarez_n cit_v s._n clement_n first_o epistle_n against_o which_o more_o be_v object_v then_o against_o the_o 4._o epistle_n allege_v by_o m._n doctor_n these_o argument_n may_v seem_v much_o to_o urge_v for_o a_o state_n of_o perfection_n in_o inferior_a pastor_n 50._o yet_o s._n thomas_n who_o authority_n be_v great_a not_o only_o in_o the_o school_n 7._o s._n th._n 2_o 2._o q._n 184._o a._n 7._o but_o also_o in_o the_o church_n affirm_v that_o curate_n be_v not_o in_o a_o state_n of_o perfection_n because_o to_o a_o state_n be_v require_v immobilitie_n which_o be_v not_o in_o a_o curate_n or_o
inferior_a pastor_n because_o he_o have_v no_o vow_n to_o tie_v he_o to_o that_o state_n but_o may_v leave_v it_o if_o he_o will_v go_v to_o religion_n without_o the_o bishop_n licence_n sunt_fw-la s._n th._n sup_v 19_o q._n 2._o cap._n due_a sunt_fw-la yea_o against_o his_o will_n as_o s._n thomas_n proove_v out_o of_o pope_n vrban_n whereas_o the_o religious_a by_o reason_n of_o his_o vow_n can_v forsake_v his_o state_n of_o life_n to_o this_o suarez_n answer_v that_o if_o s._n thomas_n require_v a_o proper_a vow_n to_o make_v a_o state_n than_o the_o bishop_n state_n shall_v not_o be_v a_o perfect_a state_n because_o when_o he_o be_v make_v bishop_n he_o make_v no_o vow_n but_o if_o by_o a_o vow_n he_o mean_v a_o pact_n supra_fw-la suar_fw-la l._n 〈…〉_o 17._o supra_fw-la convenant_n or_o mutual_a promise_n betwixt_o he_o and_o his_o church_n such_o a_o promise_n or_o pact_n be_v to_o be_v find_v in_o the_o pastor_n as_o well_o as_o in_o the_o bishop_n 51._o caietan_n say_v suarez_n answer_v that_o the_o inferior_a pastor_n have_v not_o a_o divine_a commandment_n to_o stick_v to_o his_o pastourslip_v nor_o any_o humane_a precept_n because_o none_o can_v be_v allege_v to_o who_o suarez_n repli_v that_o nether_a the_o bishop_n by_o any_o divine_a law_n be_v tie_v to_o his_o bishopric_n though_o vasquez_n in_o this_o contradict_v he_o as_o above_o we_o have_v see_v only_o by_o the_o ecclesiastical_a law_n he_o be_v wed_v to_o his_o bishopric_n and_o by_o this_o law_n the_o inferior_a pastor_n also_o be_v wed_v to_o his_o pastourship_n it_o be_v true_a that_o the_o inferior_a pastor_n may_v enter_v into_o religion_n without_o the_o pope_n or_o bishop_n leave_v as_o s._n vrban_n affirm_v in_o the_o place_n allege_v yet_o 9_o 19_o q._n 2._o cap._n dua_fw-la snnt_n suar._n l._n 1._o c._n 17._o n._n 9_o as_o suarez_n assure_v we_o that_o be_v no_o sign_n that_o he_o be_v not_o in_o a_o state_n with_o obligation_n sufficient_a to_o stick_v to_o it_o but_o only_o that_o 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bishop_n have_v a_o great_a obligation_n to_o stick_v to_o his_o bishopric_n because_o he_o can_v forsake_v it_o without_o dispensation_n or_o leave_n from_o the_o pope_n 1._o si_fw-mi quis_fw-la veron_n &_o ca._n episcopus_fw-la de_fw-la loco_fw-la 17._o q._n 1._o the_o inferior_a pastor_n may_v leave_v his_o pastorship_n with_o licence_n of_o the_o bishop_n but_o the_o reason_n of_o this_o may_v be_v because_o the_o bishop_n have_v no_o superior_a but_o the_o pope_n to_o licence_v he_o the_o inferior_a pastor_n have_v the_o bishop_n who_o may_v dispense_v with_o he_o to_o which_o may_v be_v add_v that_o the_o pope_n hinselfe_n who_o have_v the_o high_a state_n in_o the_o church_n may_v renounce_v it_o and_o yet_o because_o he_o can_v do_v this_o without_o great_a and_o urgent_a cause_n he_o be_v in_o a_o state_n of_o perfection_n wherefore_o because_o the_o curate_n or_o archdeacon_n can_v leave_v their_o charge_n without_o licence_n of_o the_o bishop_n their_o state_n be_v 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out_o of_o s._n denis_n say_v that_o pontisi●um_fw-la ordo_fw-la consummatiuns_fw-la est_fw-la &_o perfectiuns_fw-la sacerdolum_fw-la autem_fw-la illuminatiuns_fw-la the_o order_n of_o bishop_n be_v consummative_a and_o perfective_a the_o order_n of_o priest_n illuminative_a so_o the_o order_n of_o inferior_a pastor_n be_v illuminative_a and_o perfective_a and_o as_o he_o say_v that_o the_o state_n of_o a_o regular_a be_v compare_v to_o the_o episcopal_a state_n as_o discipline_n to_o magisterie_n and_o as_o a_o disposition_n to_o perfection_n so_o the_o same_o may_v be_v say_v of_o inferior_a pastor_n in_o their_o degree_n for_o that_o they_o be_v in_o state_n not_o of_o scholar_n but_o of_o master_n and_o perfecter_n hence_o it_o be_v that_o s._n isidore_n say_v sacerdotibus_fw-la ficut_fw-la episcopis_fw-la dispensatio_fw-la my_o steriorum_fw-la dei_fw-la commissa_fw-la est_fw-la praesunt_fw-la enim_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la &_o in_o confectione_n divina_fw-la corporis_fw-la &_o 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thomas_n 2._o s._n th._n 2._o 2._o q_o 184._o be_v 6._o ad_fw-la 2._o that_o archdeacon_n and_o inferior_a pastor_n have_v but_o under-administrations_a under_o the_o bishop_n and_o be_v to_o the_o bishop_n as_o baylive_n be_v to_o the_o prince_n and_o caietan_n cite_v by_o suarez_n say_v the_o pastoral_a office_n 20._o a._n 2._o &_o 20._o and_o obligation_n to_o yield_v one_o life_n for_o the_o sheep_n pertain_v principal_o to_o bishop_n and_o only_o secundarilie_o and_o ministeriallie_o to_o inferior_a pastor_n and_o that_o curate_n and_o under_o pastor_n do_v undertake_v the_o care_n of_o soul_n as_o minister_n and_o officiales_fw-la of_o the_o bishop_n who_o be_v the_o principal_a agentes_fw-la and_o so_o be_v not_o in_o a_o state_n but_o minister_n and_o officiales_fw-la of_o the_o bishop_n who_o only_o be_v in_o state_n of_o perfection_n to_o be_v exercise_v on_o other_o but_o suarez_n answer_v very_o well_o that_o curate_n be_v
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n._n 5._o that_o the_o state_n of_o inferior_a pastor_n and_o regulas_fw-la do_v exceed_v and_o be_v exceed_v of_o one_o another_o in_o diverse_a respect_n for_o say_v he_o if_o we_o demand_v which_o state_n be_v more_o profitable_a to_o one_o self_n less_o dangerous_a and_o more_o sure_a than_o the_o religious_a state_n in_o this_o respect_n take_v the_o precedence_n but_o if_o you_o demand_v which_o state_n contine_v 6._o n._n 6._o mains_fw-fr dei_fw-la obsequium_fw-la great_a service_n of_o god_n &_o perfectiora_fw-la opera_fw-la ex_fw-la genete_fw-la she_o requirit_fw-la and_o require_v more_o perfect_a operation_n of_o their_o kind_n then_o say_v he_o the_o state_n of_o these_o inferior_a pastor_n be_v in_o itself_o and_o of_o itself_o perfect_a than_o the_o state_n of_o a_o religious_a man_n and_o in_o this_o sort_n speculativelie_a it_o may_v be_v grant_v that_o the_o pastoral_a state_n be_v perfect_a than_o the_o regular_a state_n mat._n s._n th._n in_o c._n 5._o mat._n and_o this_o s._n thomas_n upon_o s._n matthew_n seem_v to_o favour_v as_o suarez_n confess_v 55._o and_o so_o whereas_o m._n nicholas_n nu_fw-la 14._o prove_v that_o a_o regular_a state_n be_v perfect_a than_o the_o state_n of_o a_o inferior_a pastor_n because_o 2_o pastor_n may_v enter_v into_o religion_n without_o dispensation_n his_o argument_n prove_v only_o that_o a_o regulars_n state_n be_v more_o sure_a for_o one_o own_o salvation_n cütra_fw-la s._n th._n 2.2_o q_o 184.7_o arg_fw-mi sed_fw-la cütra_fw-la and_o so_o may_v be_v elect_v and_o vow_v but_o not_o that_o it_o be_v a_o high_a or_o perfect_a state_n i_o grant_v that_o s._n thomas_n prove_v that_o a_o religious_a state_n be_v inferior_a to_o the_o state_n of_o a_o bishop_n because_o a_o religious_a man_n may_v become_v a_o bishop_n and_o his_o argument_n be_v good_a because_o a_o religious_a man_n can_v accept_v of_o a_o bishop_n office_n because_o it_o be_v more_o sure_a as_o be_v manifest_a and_o therefore_o if_o he_o may_v accept_v of_o it_o it_o must_v be_v because_o it_o be_v a_o perfect_a state_n but_o a_o inferior_a pastor_n may_v undertake_v the_o state_n of_o a_o regular_a not_o because_o it_o be_v more_o perfect_a as_o azorius_fw-la regular_n confess_v but_o because_o in_o it_o he_o may_v more_o sure_o save_o his_o own_o soul_n which_o he_o may_v prefer_v before_o the_o soul_n of_o other_o 24._o azar_n to_o 1._o l._n 11._o ca._n 24._o charity_n first_o tender_v once_o own_o salvation_n and_o so_o although_o the_o inferior_a pastor_n do_v thus_o descend_v in_o state_n yet_o he_o do_v not_o proper_o retrocedere_fw-la nor_o retrospicere_fw-la go_v back_n or_o look_v back_o because_o he_o thus_o avaunce_v his_o own_o salvation_n and_o so_o it_o be_v a_o good_a argument_n a_o regular_a may_v be_v a_o bishop_n ergo_fw-la a_o bishop_n state_n be_v perfect_a but_o be_v not_o a_o good_a argument_n a_o inferior_a pastor_n may_v be_v a_o religious_a man_n ergo_fw-la a_o religious_a man_n have_v a_o perfect_a state_n but_o only_o ergo_fw-la a_o religious_a man_n have_v a_o more_o secure_a state_n 56._o but_o in_o a_o controversy_n so_o much_o dispute_v and_o wherein_o to_o give_v sentence_n may_v provoke_v the_o one_o party_n or_o the_o other_o i_o will_v leave_v the_o judgement_n thereof_o to_o the_o judicious_a reader_n who_o by_o what_o be_v say_v for_o inferior_a pastor_n will_v peradventure_o judge_v it_o more_o probable_a that_o inferior_a pastor_n shall_v worthy_o be_v prefer_v in_o state_n of_o perfection_n and_o as_o m._n nicholas_n pag._n 103._o num._n 7._o refer_v his_o reader_n to_o platus_n a_o regular_a concern_v the_o regular_a state_n so_o will_v i_o and_o with_o less_o exception_n refer_v he_o to_o one_o philippe_n the_o harue_v a_o regular_a and_o learned_a abbot_n concern_v the_o clergy_n and_o all_o pastor_n even_o inferior_a 57_o this_o man_n be_v abbot_n of_o a_o monastery_n call_v bona_fw-la spes_fw-la good_a hope_n and_o he_o write_v above_o four_o hundred_o and_o 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disparagement_n to_o his_o monastical_a institute_n that_o his_o monk_n shall_v not_o contend_v to_o excel_v other_o in_o holy_a order_n but_o in_o holy_a manner_n consider_v that_o the_o promotion_n to_o order_n make_v not_o a_o monk_n but_o abjection_n and_o vilify_n of_o one_o self_n labour_n silence_n discipline_n rest_n religion_n and_o in_o his_o 99_o chapter_n habeant_fw-la sibi_fw-la matorem_fw-la monachi_fw-la sanctitatem_fw-la relinquentes_fw-la clericis_fw-la maiorem_fw-la humiliter_fw-la dignitatem_fw-la let_v monk_n keep_v to_o themselves_o great_a sanctity_n leave_v humble_o to_o clergy_n man_n great_a dignity_n and_o in_o his_o 98._o and_o 97._o chapter_n 462._o pag._n 462._o he_o say_v that_o s._n hierome_n do_v therefore_o invite_v heliod_n paulinus_n and_o rusticus_n to_o be_v monk_n not_o because_o he_o think_v more_o base_o of_o the_o clergy_n but_o because_o he_o esteem_v their_o state_n as_o more_o worthy_a so_o not_o so_o secur_v and_o therefore_o say_v
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