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A14688 A treatise of Antichrist Conteyning the defence of Cardinall Bellarmines arguments, which inuincibly demonstrate, that the pope is not Antichrist. Against M. George Downam D. of Diuinity, who impugneth the same. By Michael Christopherson priest. The first part. Walpole, Michael, 1570-1624? 1613 (1613) STC 24993; ESTC S114888 338,806 434

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