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A90808 The holy scripture clearing it self of scandals: or, An answer to a book written by Richard Farnworth, who is commonly called a Quaker, bearing this title, Truth cleared of scandals. In this answer, you have the substance of a dispute at Harliston in Staffordshire, between Richard Faruworth [sic] and the author, in the yeer 1654. Written by Tho. Pollard, a member of the Church of Christ, gathered in, and about, Leichfield. Whereunto is added, Certain considerations and queries concerning those people called the Quakers; with desire of an answer. As also, a postscript, manifesting their folly in pretending a necessity of using the terms thee and thou to a single person. / By Henry Haggar, a servant of Jesus Christ, and of the congregation of his saints. Pollard, Thomas, fl. 1655.; Haggar, Henry. 1655 (1655) Wing P2775; Thomason E857_8; Thomason E842_10; ESTC R206619 43,888 64

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here thou must needs judge very many that thou didst never know or hear of and so art guilty of this sin in speaking evil of them that thou knowest not And thirdly thou givest all men to understand that thou ownest not the word of God for thy rule in condemning all that follow the Ordinances as they were delivered by Christ equally with those that observe traditions of men in the worship of God as Pope Prelate and other sprinklers do And again thou sayest Where did any of us water-baptizers cast out devils and drink any deadly thing and it not hurt us And where did we shake the room when we assembled And where did we give the Holy Ghost All such unlearned questions as these I shall answer in a few words thus These things at the first namely Miracles were for the confirmation of the Gospel and so we may see the Law was at the first confirmed by Miracles read Exod. 20.18 with Heb. 12.18 to the 22. so we finde Baptism was confirmed by Miracles Mat. 3.16 17. with Luke 3.21 22. and so was Prayer Preaching and Laying on of Hands at the first confirmed to us by Miracles and that it was for this end to confirm the Gospel read Heb. 2.3 4. How shall we escape if we neglect so great salvation which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord and was confirmed to us by them that heard him God also bearing them witness both with signs and wonders and with divers miracles and gifts of the Holy Ghost according to his own will And this is such satisfaction to us that it is the word of God that we need not look for a new confirmation of it but we have recourse to all the Commandments and Ordinances of Christ as they are written and read Mark 16.17 18 19 20. and you will finde those signs were onely to confirm the word But it lies upon you Farnworth and all those that go about to destroy the holy Scripture and Ordinances thereof I say it lies upon you to shew us such a confirmation of that which you bring and then we may come to give more credit to your words But for many of these Questions I do not look upon them worth answering But one word to you of the Church of Christ I pray you let us minde what Israel did in the dayes of Hezekiah when liberty was proclaimed by the King that the Passeover should be kept at Jerusalem we finde that the people did not look for a new confirmation but they had a care to keep it in such sort as it was written And we finde that by reason of wicked Kings that was before the practise of it was lost in such sort as it is written from the dayes of Solomon to the reign of Hezekiah there was many yeers during the reign of about fourteen Kings was I say this practise lost as it is witnessed 2 Chron. 30.5 compared with vers 26. yet we finde notwithstanding what they had observed in the dayes of Tyranny yet I say when liberty was proclaimed they had then a care to keep it in such sort as it was written without looking for a new confirmation it being before confirmed unto them And see how this their practise pleased the Lord vers 27. Their voice was heard and their prayer came up to Heaven O! may not we in these dayes learn much from these words have not we lived in the dayes past under Tyrants and by their means the Ordinances of Christ as they were practised by him and his Apostles I say by reason of former Tyranny it hath not been of a long time observed in such sort as Christ hath commanded but now hath the Lord brought us to a day of liberty and that by establishment O then in the first place let us give the Lord praise who hath dealt so bountifully with us as to set us at liberty from so great Oppressors Secondly Let us learn to keep the Commandments and Ordinances of Christ according to his appointment Thirdly Let us be sure that we fight against false worships with spiritual weapons and no other wayes Fourthly Take heed of setting up your selves or your own practices in the worshiping of God to infringe the liberties of others and for thy help herein minde that sweet counsel of Christ Mat. 7.12 Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you do ye even so to them for this is the Law and the Prophets Fifthly Labour to walk humbly before God and thankfully to God continually speaking well of his Name it is the onely way to enjoy greater mercies from him We of this Nation have as great if not greater cause of returning praise to the Lord then Israel had O that we could in the fear of the Lord weigh our mercies with those spoken of by David Ps 107. And we may say that what the Lord then did for Israel he hath now done for England I desire the Reader to weigh those words well and we may plainly see that it is our duty to praise him for his goodness and declare his wonderful works done in our dayes to the sons of men O that we were wise to observe the dealings of God and his mercies bestowed upon us in this generation Sixthly You that profess to know God and Christ of what ranke or imployment soever ye be labour to be of a peaceable spirit as much as in you lies live peaceably with all men for let me tell you if any be otherwayes minded in thirsting after blood such I say will be very unfit to follow Christ at his coming who is the prince of peace And I pray you minde what Paul saith Tit. 3.1 2. Put them in minde to be subject to principalities and powers to obey Magistrates to be ready to every good work to speak evil of no man to be no brawlers but gentle shewing meekness to all men And again consider what Paul saith Rom. 13. When Rulers are for the punishing of evil doers and for the praise of them that do well then ought every one professing Christ to be subject not onely for wrath but also conscience sake O what cause of rejoycing have the Lords people to see how time after time there is a generation of men laying out themselves to deprive the Lord's people of this liberty that we at this day enjoy Consider how the Lord hath found out instruments all along to be as a wall between you and them O praise the Lord for such instruments Now in the next place I shall give an Answer briefly to that saying of Paul Christ sent me not to baptise but to preach 1 Cor. 1.17 I answer briefly first It is clear that Paul was an Apostle of Jesus Christ as is undeniable if so then he was as much concerned in the commission Mat. 28. 19. as any other then minde those words and you will finde preaching and baptizing joyned together And Paul commanded to preach the whole counsel