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B02989 The humble petition of the Lords and Commons assembled in Parliament. Presented to His Majestie at York, the 17 of June, 1642: with His Majesties answer thereunto. England and Wales. Parliament. 1642 (1642) Wing E1577B; ESTC R171985 8,032 16

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greatest and the most chearfull concourse of people that ever was beheld of one County appearing before Him at York a Gentleman one Sir Thomas Fayrefax offered in that great Confluence a Petition to His Majestie which His Majestie seeing to be avowed by no man but himself and the generall and universall Acclamations of the people seeming to disclaim it did not receive conceiving it not to be of so publick a nature as to be fit to be presented or received in that place And His Majestie is most consident and in that must appeal to those who were then present that what ever the substance of that Petition was it was not consented to by any considerable number of Gentry or Freeholders of this Countie but solicited by a few mean inconsiderable persons and disliked and visibly discountenanced by the great body of the known Gentrie Clergie and Inhabitants of this whole County And if the matter of that Petition were such as is suggested in this His Majestie hath great reason to believe it was framed and contrived as many others of such nature have been in London not in Yorkshire For sure no Gentleman of quality and understanding of this Countie would talk of his great preparations of Arms and other warlike Provisions to the great terrour and amazement of His peaceable Subjects when they are witnesses of the violent taking His Arms from Him and stopping all wayes for bringing more to Him And if there were no greater terrour and amazement of His Majesties peaceable Subjects in other places by such preparations and provisions there would be no more cause to complain of a great decay of Trade and Commerce there then is in this place But His Majestie hath so great an assurance of the fidelity and generall affections of His good Subjects of this County which He hopes will prove exemplar over His whole Kingdome that He hath great cause to believe That they do rather complain of His Majesties confidence and of His slownesse that whilst there is such endeavour abroad to raise Horse and to provide Arms against His Majestie and that endeavour put in execution His Majestie trusts so much to the Justice of His cause and the affections of his people and neglects to provide strength to assist that Justice and to protect those affections For any affronts offered by the Earl of Lindsey and the Lord Savile to those who intended to petition His Majestie His Majestie wishes that both His Houses of Parliament would have examined that Information and the credit of the Informers with that gravity and deliberation as in cases which concern the Innocence and Honour of persons of such qualitie hath been accustomed before they had proscribed two Peers of the Realm and exposed them as much as in them lay to the rage and fury of the people under the Character of being Enemies to the Commonwealth a brand newly found out and of no legall signification to incense the people by and with which the simplicity of former times was not acquainted And then His Majestie hath some reason to believe they would have found themselves as much abused in the report concerning those Lords as he is sure they are in those which tell them of the resort of great numbers of discontented persons to Him and of the other particulars mentioned to be in that Petition Whereas they who observe what resort is here to His Majestie well know it to be of the prime Gentlemen of all the Counties in England whom nothing but the love of Religion the care of the Laws and Liberties of the Kingdome besides their affection to His Person could engage into great journeys trouble and expence men of as precious reputation and as exemplary lives as this Nation hath any whole assistance His Majestie knows He must not exped if He should have the least designe against Honour and Justice and such witnesses His Majestje desires to have of all His actions For the declining all other Councels and the uniting His Confidence to His Parliament His Majesty desires both His Houses of Parliament seriously and sadly to consider That it is not the name of a great or little Councel that makes the Results of that Councel Just or Unjust Neither can the Imputation upon His Majesty of not being advised by His Parliament especially since all their Actions and all their Orders are exposed to the publick view long mis-lead His good Subjects except in truth they see some particular found Advice necessary to the Peace and Happinesse of the Common-wealth dis-esteemed by His Majesty and such an Instance He is most assured neither can nor shall be given And that they will think it merit in His Majesty from the Common-wealth to reject such Counsel as would perswade Him to make Himself none of the Three Estates by giving up His negative voice to allow them a Power superiour to that which the Law hath given Him whensoever it pleaseth the Major part present of both Houses to say That He doth not discharge His Trust as He ought and to subject His and His Subjects unquestionable Right and Proprietie to their Votes without and against Law upon the meer pretence of necessity And His Majesty must appeal to all the world who it is that endeavours to divide the joynt-duty of His Subjects His Majesty who requires nothing but what their own duty guided by the infallible Rule of the Law leads them to do or they who by Orders and Votes opposite and contradictory to Law Custome President and Reason so confound the Affections and Vnderstandings of His good Subjects that they know not how to behave themselves with Honesty and Safety whilest their Conscience will not suffer them to submit to the one nor their Security to apply themselves to the other It is not the bare saying That His Majesties Actions are against the Law with which he is reproched in this Petition as if He departed from His often Protestations to that purpose must conclude Him there being no one such particular in that Petition alledged of which His Majesty is in the least degree guilty Whether the same reverence and esteem be paid by you to the Law except your own Votes be judge needs no other evidence then those many very many Orders published in print both concerning the Church and State those long imprisonments of severall persons without hearing them upon generall information and the great unlimited Fees to your Officers worse then the imprisonment and the Arbitrary Censure upon them when they are admitted to be heard let the Law be judge by whom it is violated For that part of the Petition which seems to accuse His Majesty of a purpose to dissolve this Parliament contrary to the Act for the Continuance by commanding away the Lords and great Officers whole attendance is necessary which His Majesty well knows to be a new Calumnie by which the grand Contrivers of ruine for the State hope to seduce the minds of the People from their Affection
to or into Jealousie of his Majesty as if He meant this way to bring this Parliament which may be the case of all Parliaments to nothing It is not possible for His Majesty more to expresse his Affection to and his Resolution for the Freedome Liberty and frequency of Parliaments then He hath done And who ever considers how visible it must be to His Majesty That it is impossible for Him to subsist without the Affections of His people and that those Affections cannot possibly be preserved or made use of but by Parliaments cannot give the least credit or have the least suspicion that his Majesty would chuse any other way to the happinesse He desires for Himself and His Posterity but by Parliaments But for His calling the Lords hither or any others absenting themselves who have not been called whoever considers the Tumults which no Votes or Declaration can make to be no Tumults by which His Majestie was driven away and many Members of either House in danger of their lives The demanding the names of those Lords who would not consent to their Propositions by Message from the House of Commons delivered at the Barre by Matter Hollis with that most tumultuous Petition in the name of many thousands among many other of the same kinde directed to the House of Commons and sent up by them to the House of Lords taking notice of the prevalencie of a Malignant faction which made abortive all their good Motions which tended to the Peace and Tranquilitie of the Kingdome desiring That those noble Worthies of the House of Peers who concurred with them in their happy Votes might be earnestly desired to joyn with that honourable House and to sit and Vote as one entire Body professing That unlesse some speedie remedie were taken for the removall of all such Obstructions as hindred the happy progresse of their great endeavours their Petitioners should not rest in quietnesse but should be inforced to lay hold on the next remedy which was at hand to remove the disturbers of their Peace and want and necessitie breaking the bounds of modestie not to leave any means unassayed for their relief Adding that the cry of the poore and needy was That such persons who were the Obstacles of their peace and hinderers of the happy proceedings of this Parliament might be forthwith publickly declared whose removall they conceived would put a period to these distractions Upon which a great number of Lords departing the Vote in order to the Ordinance concerning the Militia was immediately passed though it had been twice before put to the question and rejected by the Votes of much the major part of that House And who ever considers the strange Orders Votes and Declarations which have since passed to which whosoever would not consent that is with freedome and libertie of Language professe against was in danger of censure and imprisonment will not blame Our care in sending for them or theirs in coming or absenting themselves from being involved in such Conclusions Neither will it be any objection that they stayed there long after any tumults were and therefore that the tumults drave them not away If every day produced Orders and Resolutions as illegall as and indeed but the effects of the tumults there was no cause to doubt the same power would be ready to prevent any opposition to those Orders after they were made which had made way and preparation for the proposition of them and so whosoever conceived himself in danger of future tumults against which there is not the least provision was driven away by those which were past And his Majestie hath more reason to wonder at those who stay behind after all His legall Power is voted from him and all the people told That He might be with modesty and duty enough deposed then any man hath at those who have been willing to withdraw themselves from the place where such desperate and dangerous Positions are avowed Which his Majestie doth not mention with the least thought of lessening the power or validity of any Act to which He hath given his Assent this Parliament al every of which He shall as inviolably observe as He looks to have his own rights preserved but to shew by what means so many strange Orders have of late been made to shew how earnestly his Majestie desires to be present at and receive advice from both Houses of Parliament against whom it shall never be in the power of a Malignant party to incense his Majestie his Majestie again offers his Consent That both Houses may be adjourned to another place which may be thought convenient where his Majestie will be present and doubts not but the Members of either House will make a full Appearance and even the intermission which must attend such an adjournment may not be the least means of recovering that temper which is necessary for such debates And this His Majestie conceives to be so very necessary that if the Minds and Inclinations of every Member of either House were equally composed the Licence is so great that the mean People about London and the Suburbs have taken that both for the Libertie and Dignitie of Parliament that Convention for a time should be in another place And sure how much soever the safety and security of this Kingdome depends on Parliaments it will never be thought that those Parliaments must of necessitie be at Westminster His Majesties Confidence is no lesse then He hath expressed and hath great Cause to expresse in the Affections of this County an instance of which Affections all men know His Guard which is not extraordinary to be and wonders that such a Legall Guard at His own charge for His Person within twenty Miles of a Rebellion and of an Armie in Pay against Him should be objected by those who for so many Moneths and in a Place of known and confessed Securitie have without and against Law kept a guard for themselves at the Charge of the Common-wealth and upon that stock of money which was given for the Relief of the miserable bleeding Condition of Ireland or the payment of the great debt due to Our Kingdome of Scotland For the Resort of Papists to the Court his Majesties great Care for the prevention thereof is notoriously known That when he was informed two or three of His intended Guard were of that Religion He gave speciall direction with expressions of His displeasure That they should be immediately discharged and provided that no Person should attend on Him under that Relation but such as took the Oaths of Allegiance and Supremacy That He commanded the Sheriffe to proceed with all severity according to the Law against all Papists that should come within five Miles of the Court and if notwithstanding this there be any Papists near the Court which his Majesty assures you He knows not nor hath heard but by this Petition He doth hereby command them to depart and declares to all Officers and Ministers of Justice that they shall proceed strictly against them according to the Law and as they will answer the contrary at their perils For the language and behaviour of the Cavaliers a word by what mistake soever it seems much in disfavour there hath not been the least Complaint here and therefore 't is probable the fault was not found in this County Neither can his Majesty imagine what is meant by the mention of any men thrust upon them in such Consultations and Propositions as his Majesty makes to this County who are neither by their Fortune or Residence any part of it and therefore can make no Answer to it To conclude his Majesty assures you He hath never refused to receive any Petition whether you have or no your selves best know and wills you to consider what reputation it will be to you of Justice or Ingenuity to receive all Petitions how senselesse and scandalous soever of one kind under the pretence of understanding the good peoples minds and affections and not onely refuse the Petition but punish the Petitioners of another kind under colour That it is a Crime That they are not satisfied with your sense as if you were onely trusted by the people of one opinion to take all pains to publish and print Petitions which agree with your wishes though they were never presented and to use the same Industry and Authority to keep those that indeed were presented and avowed from being published though by Our own Authority because the Argument is not pleasant to you to pretend impartiality a●● infallibility and to expresse the greatest Passion and Affection in the Order of your Proceeding and no lesse errour and misunderstanding in your Judgements and Resolutions He doth remember well the Obligation of his Trust and of his Oath and desires that you will do so too and your own solemn Vow and Protestation and then you will not onely think it convenient but necessary to give his Majesty a full reparation for all the Scandals laid upon him and all the scandalous Positions made against him and that it is lesse dishonour to retract Errours then by avowing to confesse the Malice of them and will see this to be the surest way for the preservation of the Protestant Religion the redemption of your Brethren in Ireland the happinesse and prosperity of your selves and all our Dominions and of the dignity and freedome of Parliament FINIS