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A19178 A reply to Dr. Mortons generall Defence of three nocent [sic] ceremonies viz. the surplice, crosse in baptisme, and kneeling at the receiving of the sacramentall elements of bread and wine. Ames, William, 1576-1633.; Calderwood, David, 1575-1650, attributed name. 1622 (1622) STC 559; ESTC S100126 108,813 126

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sect_n xvii_o among_o his_o accusation_n wherein_o he_o charge_v we_o with_o manifold_a scandal_n the_o first_o be_v that_o some_o weak_a one_o by_o occasion_n of_o these_o difference_n stand_v amaze_v and_o so_o become_v more_o remiss_a in_o profession_n of_o religion_n where_o 1_o it_o be_v to_o be_v observe_v that_o when_o we_o speak_v of_o weake-ones_a sect_n 12._o it_o be_v put_v off_o with_o this_o pretence_n that_o they_o be_v such_o as_o we_o have_v catechise_v now_o then_o who_o be_v these_o weak_a one_o i_o hope_v the_o bishop_n provide_v that_o people_n of_o their_o diocese_n be_v well_o catechise_v whence_o then_o be_v this_o weakness_n 2._o difference_n in_o matter_n of_o circumstance_n be_v not_o wont_a to_o breed_v scandal_n until_o some_o authority_n enjoin_v uniformity_n as_o we_o may_v see_v in_o the_o primitive_a church_n 3._o if_o difference_n be_v the_o occasion_n of_o this_o scandal_n sure_o those_o that_o differ_v from_o we_o may_v as_o well_o be_v accuse_v therefore_o as_o we_o that_o differ_v from_o they_o especial_o when_o we_o urge_v nothing_o of_o we_o upon_o they_o but_o they_o impose_v their_o own_o device_n upon_o we_o and_o so_o be_v cause_n of_o the_o difference_n 4._o the_o amazement_n which_o some_o have_v wonder_v what_o will_v be_v the_o event_n of_o difference_n be_v no_o damnable_a error_n which_o by_o the_o def._n be_v require_v to_o a_o scandal_n sect_n 1._o and_o if_o they_o grow_v remiss_a in_o religion_n upon_o it_o that_o be_v their_o sin_n i_o be_o sure_a zeal_n against_o superstition_n and_o for_o pure_a and_o undefiled_a worship_n have_v no_o fitness_n in_o it_o to_o work_n remissness_n in_o religion_n but_o urge_v of_o humane_a device_n in_o god_n worship_n tend_v direct_o thither_o sect_n xviii_o the_o second_o charge_n of_o scandal_n be_v in_o respect_n of_o the_o separatist_n where_o 1._o i_o ask_v if_o gaius_n have_v make_v a_o separation_n from_o the_o church_n wherein_o diotrephes_n live_v whether_o the_o apostle_n john_n have_v be_v cause_n of_o that_o scandal_n because_o he_o condemn_v his_o abuse_n of_o excommunication_n 3._o joh._n 9_o 10._o 2._o if_o any_o separate_a from_o church_n where_o image_n be_v retain_v who_o be_v the_o cause_n they_o that_o dislike_v of_o image_n or_o they_o that_o retain_v they_o 3._o the_o dislike_n of_o ceremony_n be_v not_o the_o chief_a cause_n for_o which_o separation_n be_v make_v but_o the_o intolerable_a abuse_n which_o be_v in_o ecclesiastical_a court_n by_o which_o it_o come_v to_o pass_v that_o many_o poor_a man_n be_v trouble_v at_o the_o first_o for_o a_o small_a thing_n afterward_o be_v drive_v to_o fly_v the_o country_n and_o fly_v with_o a_o hatred_n of_o such_o course_n be_v ready_a to_o receive_v that_o impression_n which_o be_v most_o opposite_a unto_o they_o the_o thing_n itself_o be_v plain_a enough_o to_o all_o indifferent_a man_n that_o ecclesiastical_a corruption_n urge_v and_o obtrude_v be_v the_o proper_a occasion_n of_o separation_n sect_n xix_o xx._n in_o the_o next_o place_n the_o papist_n be_v allege_v as_o person_n offend_v by_o non-conformitie_n because_o they_o be_v utter_o unperswadeable_a to_o enter_v into_o a_o church_n where_o all_o ancient_a rite_n be_v profess_o reject_v but_o 1._o the_o refuse_v of_o conformity_n by_o the_o minister_n do_v not_o i_o hope_v make_v these_o ancient_a rite_n much_o less_o all_o to_o be_v profess_o reject_v by_o our_o church_n for_o than_o we_o may_v plead_v the_o profession_n of_o our_o mother_n as_o well_o as_o the_o defendant_n which_o he_o i_o be_o sure_a will_v not_o grant_v 2._o this_o assertion_n which_o be_v give_v as_o a_o reason_n be_v evident_o false_a for_o in_o scotland_n france_n the_o low-countries_n and_o such_o like_a church_n where_o none_o of_o these_o ceremony_n be_v retain_v the_o power_n of_o god_n word_n which_o do_v not_o depend_v on_o human_a ceremony_n be_v as_o ●ffectuall_a to_o the_o conversion_n of_o papist_n as_o in_o england_n 3._o how_o do_v this_o agree_v with_o that_o which_o the_o defendant_n have_v so_o often_o tell_v we_o that_o our_o ceremony_n be_v not_o the_o same_o with_o the_o papist_n ceremony_n and_o that_o the_o papist_n have_v no_o great_a conceit_n of_o our_o ceremony_n cap._n 2._o sect_n 1●_n 4._o if_o our_o contention_n about_o these_o thing_n be_v a_o scandal_n to_o the_o papist_n let_v they_o look_v to_o it_o that_o cast_v these_o apple_n of_o contention_n into_o the_o church_n under_o the_o pretence_n of_o peace_n and_o uniformity_n 5._o one_o minister_n without_o conformity_n as_o old_a mr._n midsly_n of_o ratsdell_n who_o be_v after_o silence_v for_o his_o labour_n have_v conver_v more_o papist_n then_o any_o i_o may_v say_v then_o all_o of_o the_o bishop_n in_o england_n with_o all_o his_o ceremonial_a observation_n 6._o it_o be_v