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A95953 A vindication of the army under the command of Sir Thomas Fairfax, with an answer to several objections made against them, &c. England and Wales. Parliament. House of Lords. 1647 (1647) Wing V500; Thomason 669.f.11[44]; ESTC R210556 4,355 1

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they ought to be let out of prison and to have their estates again and enjoy as much liberty as others as for the Beshops our mind is not changed concerning their calling and persecution and had they not troubled us we had not petitioned against them you know the Independents principle is that Bishops and Presbyters should have as much liberty as themselves let each take his way and be content to be quiet and let others alone and do as we would be done to al men cannot be of one mind and until men who differ in opinion may enjoy their estates and live quietly this Kingdom can have no peace Obj. The Army speak well but they are not to be beleeved Answ Then we may not beleeve any they are Englands tryed friends who have long endured the hardship and extremities of war and often hazarded their lives for the safety of this nation such as condemn and distrust them do ill require them Obj. Many yea the Priests say they will kill and plunder us Answ they are full of delusions and lyes have the Army ever done so have they not been at Cambridge Berry Ipswich c. where there is much treasure yet did they not kill nor plunder any Obj. It s not reasonable to resist authority and that with their Armes Answ They resist not authoritie but tyranny the Armes are not theirs but the Kingdoms who paid for them Obj. If the Army be friends to England why do they not what they intend quickly Answ I am credibly inform'd the Army cannot hasten more then they do they doe more then you are aware on do you judge them idle because you do not see what they do they are not ignorant that our oppessions are great and that the Kingdom is almost undone and that our necessities will admit of no delay Rest satisfied they prefer the Kingdoms safety welfare before their own lives so that Gods command Reason Religion Conscience their friends welfare and happines their own honour and safety all calls upon them to be harmlesse and active they have caused the Parl. to reform somthing already we trust God will preserve them and effect great things by them and cause them to be as they have been a blessing and comfort to this Nation Obj. But the Country is oppressed with them c. Answ Then let the Country help and put the work to an end and if the common souldiers will not be ruled the Country must help the Commanders to do it who I hope as they have cause so they will have a great care to see that none be oppressed and abused Let not the Army be all blamed for the fault of a few and perhaps un-avoidable if any of this Army commit a fault the Kingdom is like to ring of it which will be a great grief to good men O England England what art thou asleep or willing to be undone and inslaved with your wives and children and posterity can ye sit still and see that ye are deluded betrayed oppressed burdened killed do you not consider how many of you suffer languish in misery is not the kingdom almost undone and yet the Scots are sent for the priests endeavour a new war against the Army that have been a means to preserve you have you not had war enough that cost deer enough would you have England like Germany if we have more wars this Kingdom will be quite undone if you must fight fight against them who are your enemies not against your good friends I trust you will not nor cannot in reason nor conscience justice and honour fight against them who have sacrificed their lives for you and endeavour the Kingdomes good do you not see the Parl. ref●se to remove your grievances how long wilt thou suffer thy self to be charmed cheated with fair words and promises of treacherous and deceitful men why then do you not remove them your selves ye may be free if ye will be free now and ever now or never this is the seventh year the year of Iubilie such as refuse freedom now deserve to have their ears bored and to be slaves for ever Rise quickly and it will be quickly done or else your liberties are quite gon and iron chains locked on wil ye suffer your selves to be so abused as ye are the next time ye chuse Parliament-men in many places they had need chuse men more wise and faithfull and not as some have done chuse fooles and knaves becau●e they are great ones they are not aware of the wrong they do to themselves and the Kingdom by it Quest Resolved That the Parl. did secretly by their proceedings bid the army not disband that the Parl. hath sleighted more of their votes then the Army and that when necessity requires the souldiers ought to keepe their ranks and follow their leaders that the Parl. practises contradict their pretences that they keep not their oaths vowes protestations and promises and therefore are not to be regarded much lesse trusted unto that many of them deserve to bee thrust out of the house with contempt as unworthy for ever to sit there more for their theft treachery perjury betraying their trust is it not better for the Kingdome to have a Parl. every year that may sit but 6 moneths So much for this time Farewell It is desired that this be Set up in Parish Churches and Publick places throughout this Kingdom and dominion of Wales for their Information c. The second Edition corrected and enlarged 1647.