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A77160	The sea-men undeceived: or, Certaine queries to a printed paper, intituled, The humble tender and declaration of many wel-affected sea-men, commanders of ships, and members of Trinity-House, to the commissioners of the navy. Wherein are may [sic] objections answered, very necessary for publick use in these times. / By R.B. a seaman, and member of the Trinity-House. Directed to marriners and sea-men in generall, and to all others among whom the fore-mentioned printed papers have been spread. But more especially it is commended to the underwriters of the said paper. Published according to order. Read all or none.	R. B. (Richard Baddeley)	1648 (1648)	Wing B389; Thomason E459_22; ESTC R205101	24,285	41

on fore-sight thereof should presently desist and say as Naaman to Elisha in another case so in this thing that I have made such progresse the Lord be mercifull unto his servant and I should proceed no further But my conscience beares me witnesse that I am fully perswaded it is the neerest way to peace and a mutuall Agreement between our selves to labour to undeceive one another for now some amongst those that under wrote the printed Paper afore mentioned malignes and speakes disdainfully of others that dissented from their opinion I may truely say they know not for what and peradventure they think in what they doe they keep to the Covenant when every rationall man knowes they seem to breake many Articles thereof as to instance in that passage of the 6th Article wherein we promise not to make defection on the contrary part or give our selves to a detestable Indifferency or Newtrality in this cause which so much concerneth the glory of God the good of the Kingdomes and honor of the King And let me tell you I hope hereupon those men amongst them who are moderate and have not their spirits greatly imbittered will be ready to say the truth is now we see out mistake and therefore we will apply our selves to joyne heart hand against the Common Enemy that there be no decay nor breaking out nor yet complaining in our streets but Merchants be encouraged to trade liberally and our selves may be freed ftom those feares that if those Revolters be sooth'd up in their way will often possesse us as that from their example our own men may turne us a shore and doe what they will with our ships upon every discontent Having thus by way of caution spoken to those two particulars I shall now proceed to the thing intended viz. to endeavour the undeceiving of the underwriters and others amongst whome their printed Papers may be spread First therefore I shal speak a word or two to the occasion of the meeting which produced the printed paper and the rather because many of the Subscribers may be ignorant thereof The Honorable House of Commons made the ensuing votes Die Sabbathi 17. Junij 1648. Resolved that as great a Fleet as the Parliament shall think fit be provided with all expedition for the safety of the Kingdome and the reducing of the revolters Hen. Elsing Cler. Parli Die 17. Junij 1648. Resolved That a Letter be written by the Lord high Admirall to the Trinity House to imploy their best endeavours for the manning the Ships of such a Fleet with cordiall and well-affected men Henry Elsing Cler. Parl. Whereupon the right Honorable the Earle of Warwick Lord high Admirall did write to the Master and Wardens of the Trinity House a Letter whereof followes the Copie I hope without offence to any For without it the errour these men run into could not so clearly appeare After my hearty Commendations YOu cannot but take notice of the defection of some Ships of the Fleet and the great prejudice that may be occasioned thereby to the Trade of the Kingdome besides the interruption it may give to publick settlement which the Parliament are effectually endeavouring In order therefore to the safety of the Kingdome the encouragement and preservation of Trade and the reducing of such of the Ships as have revolted from their duty It is now in agitation by the Parliaments direction That a convenient Fleet bee provided and set to Sea And because nothing is of more importance then the getting of the said Fleet manned with cordiall and well-affected Mariners I doe therefore recommend it to you as that that is of great concernment to the publick service speedily to imploy your best endeavours for getting such mariners to serve in the said Fleet of whose courage and faithfull affection to the Parliament you shall have very good assurance and of the proceedings to make as speedie return unto mee as may bee by your diligent and effectuall compliance And thereby you will not onely give a further testimony of your care of the publique interest of the Kingdom and of your respect to the Parliament the House of Commons having by their Order published those votes a Coppy whereof I send you here inclosed it being resolved that your best endeavours in this behalfe be thus desired I say you will not onely answer their expectation thereby but will also more oblige To my very loving Friends the Master Wardens and the Assistants of the Trinity house Your very assured loveing brother and friend Warwicke Whereupon the younger brothers it seemes were ordered to be called to a meeting at the Trinity house which leads me to the first Quere Quaere 1. Whether you think it were sit or justifiable that some Members of the Corporation should be called and others left out who will thinke otherwise but to carry on the designe intended the more smoothly and in their roomes those not members of the Corporation should be warned to appeare and some of them invited to procure all the friends they could that would be for a Personall Treaty Now if this be not contrary to reason and the Covenant which in one Article tells us wee ought no to make factions or Parties amongst the people let the world be judge But herein I would not be understood as if I meant the Worshipfull the Mr. Wardens and Assistants of the said Trinity house were blameable herein No I am perswaded better things of them But I doubt not but their Officers are to blame therein who if reports belyes them not some of them are very fit for such a purpose 1 Object But it may be said the Officers were ordered to call all Seamen or as many as could be got as well not Members of the Co poration as thos● that were Answ But why were not all the Members first called as is usually done in and among all Companies and Corporations in such cases Quere 2. Secondly Whether at such a meeting upon such an occasion where every one should have free liberty to speake his minde it can with the least couler be justifiable that when a Personall Treaty was propounded and one replyed saying under favour it is not the businesse of the day we are called to answer my Lord Admiralls Letter let us therefore do that A very reasonable request yet that this man should be hist at by many Nay that some should take the boldnesse to say it were a good turne to thrust him and some others out of doores that dissented from them or that some should add and say they that are in the revolted ships were as honest as those that were there with what reason such things should passe unreproveable it seems to me very strange And now to the printed Paper it selfe it having for its frontispeice or title The humble tender and Declaration of many well-affected Marriners c. which leads me to the next Quere Quaere 3. Thirdly Whether men that are rationall and no way biassed

darknesse Yet further by what I have heard the Court or the most of the elder brothers did not own the paper and I hope never will that nor any thing else that may cause the to be mistrusted as those that would seem to stand as newters And while I am mentioning those aged or Elder ones Solomons passage comes to my minde Prov. 16.3 The hoary head is a crown of glory if it be found in a way of righteousnesse Then God forbid those should be found out of that way in a way that inclines to detestable newtrality in this cause which by lifting up their hands to God they have acknowledged so much concerns his glory Question 1. But some may ask Is not the case altered Answ Yes somewhat in regard that whereas heretofore the Earle of Mrrlbrough was seeking to destroy us by Sea and the Lord Hopton and Culpepper the Kingdome by land now it is reported that the Earle of Marlbrough is about the same work by Land and the Lord Hopton and his Company is upon the same designe by Sea So the case is altered but the cause is the same Quest 2. But now those pretend to be for a personall treaty and so for peace Answ Oh that there were in them such a disposition As we use to say there is a great deale of difference between saying and doing or between pretending to doe a thing and doing it really We know Ehud pretended faire to King Eglon till he had his opportunity and then he thrust the Dagger to his heart To come a little neerer even to some of the aforenamed persons We know or at least may know the Earle of Marlbrough came towards the ship Merchant Bonaventure as if he were for peace with the Banner of St. George in his Main Top even till the Master of the other ship was provided to drink to him But when the Earle thought he could make sure prize of him he then changed his Banner and like a Beare robbed of her Whelps teares the ship both with great Gunnes and small and thereby the poore man that thought his pretending and doing would be alike lost not onely his own life but some other men lost their lives also Again did not the Lord Goring and his Company at the entry into Colchester pretend a great deale of good will to the inhabitants But now how many of them cry out Our Houses are burnt and otherwise our wrongs by them have been so exceeding great that we may bewaile our selves as Jeremy in his Lamentations Lam. 1 1● Is it nothing to you all you that passe by Behold and see Is there any sorrow like unto our sorrow and all because 〈◊〉 were caught with the faire pretences of that party and did not joyn heart hand to keep out the cōmon enemy And to come a little neerer Do not some of them that went down into the Downes with confidence that if they met with the revolted Ships they should suffer nothing by thē now advise their friends how that their ammunition and provision is taken away so that their voyages at least are overthrowne and they feare all will be lost If yet mens eyes be not opened to see it is high time to be stirre themselves I would sound an alarm to my friends of the Navigation but because I would not be too tedious consider some of the Heads of what I would speak to in case we now sit still is is not like to be of very ill consequence As first Will not those Merchants in whose imployment under God wee have gained something be ready to charge us with extreame ingratitude that now their goods are already taken by the Revolters and are like more and more so to be and they have no way to have it helped but by our endeavours to redeem the prey out of their hands that have taken it and remedy the like for the future I say if now we should sit still like those that owed them no kinde of service appearing like them that cared not for their destruction but laughed when the feares of their losses came upon them I appeale to you will they not do as abovesaid Object 9. Some Merchants are so far from encouraging us to goe against the revolted ships that it is expressed often by them they hope Seamen have more wit then to fight one against another Answ No man would willingly fight and shed blood if any fairer meanes would serve turn as Indemnity and the like but if no such meanes will doe another course must be taken and I warrant you when such men feel the smart received by their losses you get their estates redeemed out of the hands of those aboard the revolted Ships then they will be so farre from saying you have done ill that contrarily they will say you are and think you to be the bravest men in the world But secondly if we act not to cleare the way for our shipping to passe to and from the Sea without surprizall it will necessarily follow the Merchants will ship off no goods and consequently the shipping wherein the Seamen are not a little concerned must as we use use to say lye by the walls and in their roomes strangers be frhaigted to carry Merchans goods from the vintage to the West of England whereby it 's like London will be served over land although to their great cost and then how many other are the inconveniences that will follow thereupon I shall name onely three The Clothiers and many others that use to vent their wares at London to Merchants for transportation beyond the Seas must desist and consequently the multitudes of poore imployed that way will cry out against those that have been the Obstructors of the Trade 2. Again will not the Manuall Craftsmen about London and the poore under them groan for want of imployment when shipping shall not goe to and againe as usually and lament of those that are the cause thereof 3. Will not ordinary Marriners that by consequence must want imployment and they being not usualy so provident as others to lay up against such a time of necessity run to other parts and places of the Kingdome to look imployment or which is worse nto other Countries leaving their poore Families to cry out under wants against them that have been the cause of this great stop of trade and we know that heer yes of the poore and needy come up into the eares of the Lord of Hosts Psal 12.5 Oh then let us not be counted the cause of these evils but in time let us bestirre our selves in a way of endeavouring the reducing of the revolters before it be too late and if men will yet be obstinate give me leave to tell you what I think of Esth 4.14 If we be altogether silent or Newters at this time even Mordecai's answer to Esther Think not you shall escape in the Kings house or if you will under a pretence you are for

not sounded so lowd For then I should have lost the golden Rule Doe as you would be done by Or that Rule Tell thy brother his fault first betweene him and thee Obj. But it 's like some may object It 's a bad bird will foule his own nest Answ I appeale unto all unbyassed men in the world whether it tends not rather to cleanse it when it shall be said at a great and generall meeting in London Seamen without exception are perfidious so that there is no trust in them And worse words also if I am not mis informed Obj. But peradventure some may yet object Now you have said all you can we do not judge that those aboard the revolted ships have betrayed their trust because they ingaged upon such tearmes as are expressed in the Covenant And that it may appeare so wherefore else were they called to take it but as an argument to prove that they were fit men for the service and imployment Now if it appeares they wheeled about on purpose to maintain the Covenant or some chiefe branch of it as that wherein we oblige our selves to preserve the Kings Majesties person honour and authority that the world may beare witnesse with our consciences of our loyalty c. And this they do out of conscience in that they see this clause so much slighted amongst those that should see it performed as well as any of the other parts of the Covenant Ans 1. I wish from my heart some further endeavours had been used to have setled his Majestie and this Kingdome in their just Rights and Priviledges For no doubt the one with the other ought to be equally endeavoured or at least that some further reasons might have been given of the obstruction that if possibly it could have been prevented there might not have been so much effusion of blood as now is like to be Yea suppose I joyne issue with you and confesse that the Honorable Houses of Parliament on whose part these matters chiefly lye upon have not taken those opportunities that by Gods providence have been put into their hands to redresse a great part of those grievances which is the cause of so much complaint at this time yet notwithstanding Revolters nor their Abettors are any thing to be excused from being guilty of betraying their trust since out of tendernesse of conscience to keep that particular Article above mentioned they did not first acquaint the Parliament by whō they were intrusted of their intention to desist from their service upon that ground were ready to deliver back the ships into the hands of those they should send aboard them to look after them But now to deny the Lord high Admirall others admission which were desired to go down to take charge thereof and without order to goe out of the Kingdome with the ships upon any pretence whatsoever it is a betraying of their trust insomuch that I may appeale to all reasonable men whether it may not be judged one of the greatest wounds that ever the Protestant Religion did receive in regard that whereas the History tells us some of the late Kings of France though Roman Catholiques themselves have above all others imployed Protestants such as were of the Scottish Nation to be of their Life-guard and otherwise in places of trust neere their person upon this account that whereas the Papists hold it no sinne upon some occasion privatly to destroy and make away Kings themselves yet the principles the Protestants held were in no case to betray their trust Now then in regard of this revolt that I have been chiefly discoursing of how for ever are their mouthes stopt in justifying and honoring of us for that particular principle of Religion especially if we shall goe on saying A confederacie with them that have made a confederacy in that kind Secondly to make a fuller answer to that objection that if possibly those may be undeceived that thinke in what the Revolters and their Abettors have done and doe yet they cannot be reckoned among Covenant-breakers I care not who knoweth it I never took pleasure in or any way cared for tautologies amongst which some may say the ensuing passage may be tearmed having spoken to the Covenant before however as the proverb hath it Necessity hath no law therefore I must crave excuse herein and so proceed Can conscience of covenant keeping argue for covenant breaking or can religion be pleaded for keeping one Article of the Covenant by breaking another Or is the Covenant against it selfe that he that resolves to keep it must resolve to break it As Divines tell us that exposition concerning one particular place of Scripture that crosseth the end scope of the whole is wrong construction And so for the Covenant it is not to be observed in a divided sense that is we are not to observe one part of the covenant apart from the rest For every particular Article hath such dependance upon the other that it cannot be separated so that if you plead no breach of covenant because as you say you doe no other then what you are bound to by the third Article yet that plea is not sufficient because that Article is not to be kept by it selfe but as it stands in conjunction with the rest Besides in that very Article there is conjoyned so farre The Rights and Priviledges of the Parliament and the Liberties of the Kingdomes together with the preservation of the Kings Majesties Person and Authority that if you part them go to work as the Revolters have done you proceed directly against that very Article and I may boldly say break the whole Covenant For was not the Covenant made as I have hinted it before to detect the Parliaments enemies and unite their friends was not the main end of the Covenant so far as it was civill to joyn us together by a solemne bond with hands lifted up to the most high God though not to be against the Kings Majesty in the preservation of the true religion and the liberties of the Kingdome yet to be against him and his party as fighting to destroy the kingdom With what face then can men plead the Covenant in revolting from the Parliament and their party to joyn with the Kings party Was it not a trick of Judas to betray Christ with a kisse and shewes of love And doe not men deale so by the Covenant destroying the very life and spirit of it under a pretence of conscience to keep it Doth the Covenant bind us to Judas it by delivering up the Kingdomes interest residing in the Parliament into the hands of the sonnes of violence that seek to apprehend and destroy it by severall insurrections with swords and staves Doth the Covenant bind us to joyn with those that doe not onely hate it but them that have taken it and for no other cause but their faithfulnesse in so doing To pretend covenant in joyning with a known common enemy against the