baptisme to acknowledge their Church and faith But this is a manifest error for as Augustine truly saith Non omnes qui tenent baptismum tenent ecclesiam sicut non omnes qui tenent ecclesiam tenent vitam aeternam All which hold baptisme doe not hold the Church as all that hold the Church doe not hold eternall life Wee confesse then that the Church of Rome hath legitimum baptismum lawfull and true baptisme in substance sed non legitimè but not rightfully or lawfully as Augustine distinguisheth And Aliud est habere aliud vtiliter habere It is one thing to haue it another to haue it profitablie Baptisme may without the Church be had but not profitablie or fruitfully had Wheresoeuer baptisme is had it is the baptisme of Christ not of men of the author not of the Minister and therefore it bindeth to the faith of the first institutor not to the doctrine of the corrupt imitator Neither yet doe the Papists baptize those againe which were initiated by that Sacrament among Protestants and afterward became Apostataes neither doe they thinke them to be tied by that baptisme to the Protestants faith as this Apologist confesseth he was borne in the Queenes raigne of parents conformable to the time pag. 52. and so baptized vnder the Gospell yet hath plaid fast and loose with vs notwithstanding that bond 2. Vntrue it is which in the next place is boldly affirmed for diuers of their Honours were borne since the raigne of King Henry the 8. and so not of yeeres then to discerne Some of them were in that time of the faith which they now professe The rest may say with S. Paul euery one for himselfe What they were in time past it maketh no matter to me Galath 2.6 By this rule neither Saint Paul that had been a circumcised Pharisie should haue been become a preaching Apostle nor yet Titus an vncircumcised Grecian a baptized and beleeuing Christian if a profession first receiued might not vpon better iudgement be reiected or an opinion once entertained might not with more mature aduice be reuersed As though a plant disliking the ground might not be remoued or the ayre for a mans health that is sickly chaunged Augustine to this purpose saith well that was chalenged of the Donatists because he had been a Manichee quantum ille accusat vitium meum tantum laudo medicum meum The more he blameth my disease I commend my Phisition The obiecting of former error doth tend to the praise of the reformer 3. The honourable Knights of the Garter neuer tooke any such oath to bind themselues to the obedience of the Papall faith but rather the contrarie as may appeare by the oath prescribed by statute to bee ministred vnto all her Maiesties officers and ministers whereby they acknowledge the Queenes highnes to be supreame gouernour in this Realme c. in all spirituall or ecclesiasticall causes as temporall and that no forraine Prince Prelate or person hath or ought to haue any iurisdiction power c. within this Realme Thus this slie merchant would entangle their Honours with repugnant oathes as though they should sweare one thing when they are enstalled into the honorable order of the Garter and the quite contrarie when they are sworne of the Councell 4. And as true it is that our late Queenes Maiestie did oblige her self by oath to maintaine the Popish religion which is a most notorious slaunder of her Highnes there being no such thing contained in that princely oath as shall afterward be shewed and her Maiestie hauing giuen her royall consent to the booke of Articles of religion confirmed by act of Parliament and to diuers statutes made for the abrogation of the Papall iurisdiction Thus wee see how disloyallie this Popes creature behaueth himselfe to his Prince being not farre from the imputation of periurie as though her Maiestie should haue promised one thing vpon her oath and performed the contrarie The Preacher aduiseth not to curse the King in thy thought But these malepart popelings dare aduenture not onely to thinke but to speake and practise euill against their Prince An euill requitall for her princely clemencie toward them of whom we may say as Ambrose of Theodosius Quasi parens expostulare malebat quam vt iudex punire c. vincere volebat non plectere Who had rather as a parent expostulate with them then as a Iudge punish them winne them rather with fauour then winnow them with rigour if her Highnes had not been otherwise by their vnnaturall proceedings prouoked And as Cleomenes said to the Argiues that vpbraided him in like manner with periurie It is in your power to speake euill of me but in mine to doe euill to you So these men doe not consider that for their lewd leasings her Highnes might haue iustlie recompenced them with sharpe proceedings The fift Motiue Neuer any Catholike subiect of England hitherto hath abused so much your Honours dishonoured the cause of religion for which we daily vndertake so many troubles c. to make so bold a challenge except he were able to performe it and my confident assurance is I shal not be the first vnhappie and vnaduised man to doe it The Remoue What your successe hath been in your challenges and how well ye haue performed the defence of the Popish cause is well knowne to the world which of your writers hath not been answered to the full or who is there of you that hath not been ouertaken in that he hath vndertaken Your great patrones Harding Saunders Bristow Martin Campion Stapleton with the rest haue had their hands full But which of you hath reioyned vpon B. Iuel D. Fulkes D. Whitakers D. Sutcliffes replies Your offers are brags rather then bickerings false charges rather then true chalenges There is saith the Wiseman that maketh himselfe rich and hath nothing Prou. 13.7 And such are those braggers that thinke no mens writings comparable to theirs and scornefullie rather contemne then soundly confute any thing brought against them You could doe little if you might not bragge but your vaine confidence wil soone faile you and your swelling words will soone abate and your vaine crakes will cracke vpon your owne heads as Hierome saith Cito turgens spuma dilabitur quamuis grandis tumor contrarius est sanitati The rising â—ome is soone dispersed and great swellings shew no soundnes Cicero well said Oratores imperitos ad vociferationem vt claudos ad equum confugere That vnskilfull Orators vse outcries as lame men horses the one cannot go vnlesse he be carried the other can say nothing vnlesse hee crie out And set the lowd outcries vaine bragges and bold facings of our aduersaries aside what are they and what is their cause It is not so among disputers as they say it is with Bee-masters That is iudged to be the best hiue which maketh the greatest noyse
their seruice craftily to build the temple It is not for you but for vs to build the house vnto our God And as Valentinian made answer to the Romaine Embassadors that made petition for the restoring of the idoll temples That which my brother Gratian taketh away how can you thinke I should restore In so doing I should both hurt religion and do my brother wrong Postulet parens Roma alia quaecunque desideret Let our mother citie Rome aske any thing else which she desireth This good Emperour Valentinian being yet but young was so resolute to continue the puritie of religion that notwithstanding the instance of the Romaine Orators and the counsell of all his Senatours that approued their petition he would not graunt any libertie to Romaine idolatrie Lycurgus answer was very fit to one that perswaded that the gouernement might be committed to the people Do thou first make triall in thy house giuing thy seruants the rule So these that would haue diuerse religions in the CoÌ„mon-weale yet mislike that there should be any but their owne profession in their houses and families their children and seruants being for the most part if they may haue their desires like affected to themselues We thanke God for your Maiesties firmenesse and constancie herein praying heartily for the encrease of Christian zeale strength and corage in your princely heart But as your excellent resolution is to haue the state of the Church and Commonwealth no worse so we reioyce to heare of your princely consultation to make them both better Alwaies the noble Princes Reformers haue added somewhat to their predecessors worke and where the other left they began Dauid brought the Priests and Leuits to order Salomon built the Temple Asa tooke away Idolatrie Iehosaphat remoued the high places Hezekiah brake downe the brasen Serpent Iosias restored the feast of the Passeouer to his first integritie vnder Nehemiah the feast of Tabernacles was reuiued So in England Henrie the eight expelled the Pope and abolished Idolatrie King Edward proceeded and abrogated the Masse Queen Elizabeth weÌ„t yet further took order for recusants seminary seducing Priests Iudasits and somewhat it may be is yet remaining either to be amended or added by your Maiestie for we doubt not but that you haue set your heart to seeke the Lord and with Hezekiah to do that which is good in his sight That saying of Alexander doth well fit a Christian Prince It profiteth not to possesse all things and to do nothing As we ioy to see you a possessor of the Crowne so we desire to behold you an agent in Christs Church we ioy from our hearts to see what reformation your Mâ—â—estie hath begun in the Common-wealth in staying of monopolies redressing of oppression and extortion by officers restraining vnlawfull games vpon the Lords day We do also as much reioyce to thinke of your princely resolution for matters Ecclesiasticall In restoring the reuenues of the Church and misliking the law of Annexation in maintaining the three estates of Parliament in seeing that all Churches in your dominions be planted with good Pastors And that euery Church may be thus planted with a good Pastor one should no longer be suffered to haue many nor he that is no good Pastor nor able to teach any and if the Pastor must be planted in his Church then to be plucked and pulled from thence by long absence is not fit Thus so many hundred Churches that want teachers shall be supplied and diuers hundred Preachers not yet called abroade shall be employed But seeing a great cause of an vnlearned Ministery is want of maintenance we thanke God for your Highnesse Christian care also herein that sufficient prouision be made for the sustentation of Ministers which may be fitly done if patrons were vrged to bestow their liuings freely and better order were taken for impropriations that such as are of the Churches fee be demised for the old rent to the incumbent Preacher such as belong to others be charged with some conuenient portion to issue forth for the maintenance of the Pastor But I presume not to prescribe a course but onely to giue my simple aduice To our great comfort also your Maiestie hath declared your princely care and desire that the doctrine and discipline be preserued according to Gods word whereas the first hath bin in this Church by some with vnsound teaching corrupted as I haue partly shewed in the Preface following the other by some much neglected by others not vsed well There are bookes abroade maintaining offensiue doctrine too much declining to poperie which haue done great hurt it might please your Maiestie that such dangerous bookes might be inhibited and because they are dispersed into many hands that they receiue some answer by publike allowance or sufficient satisfaction from the authors lest the infection spread further We also with thaÌ„ks to God take knowledge of your Highnesse Christian disposition to peace that no coÌ„tention shold be in the Church about ceremonies in your princely iudgement indifferent whereabout the Church of England hath bene much distracted Lycurgus is said to auoide drunkennesse to haue forbid the vse of vines Your Highnesse in good time may more easily remoue the iust occasions of offence or so indifferently moderate them that they breede no strife God giue your Maiestie strength in due time to reforme both those and what other abuses are in Church or Commonwealth Some perhaps would haue your Maiestie to minister no phisicke at all as though the Church ayled nothing which were nothing else but with Herodotus Selymbrianus in Plato to make a long and lingring sickenesse who falling into an incurable disease deuised how to prolong death where he could not preuent it Some would haue Heraclitus phisicke vsed to do nothing but purge who being sicke of a dropsie desired the Phisitian to purge him throughly to turne the abundance of showers into drought so they would haue all purged not the superfluous humors onely but some profitable parts as the very calling it selfe of reuerend Pastors and Bishops who while they attend the sincere preaching of the word and the vncorrupt administration of discipline may no doubt do the Church much good But the better sort desire neither with Heroditus nothing to be purged nor with Heraclitus all things to be euacuated and purged but rather approue Hippocrates method that what is euill may be purged the rest to be coÌ„forted strengthened This was Saint Pauls course to purge out the old leauen that there might be a new lumpe We would not the leauen lumpe of dough and all to be cast out but the lumpe to be renewed the old sower leauen to be reiected Thus shall your Maiestie shew your selfe as Hierome saith of one to be Hippocrates Christianorum A right Hippocrates of Christians indeed that you may say with the kingly Prophet Dauid The earth and the inhabitants
thereof are dissolued but I will establish the pillars of it Your Maiestie as another Moses can onely appease the strife betweene the Hebrewes and as another Constantine to reconcile the Church-ministers who wrote thus vnto them Let me enioy good daies and quiet nights without care if not my griefe will be the more When your Highnes hath wrought this cure you shal be no more troubled with petitions by day nor careful meditations by night Aristippus and Aeschines being fallen out one asked the first what was now become of their friendship he answered It was asleepe but he would awake it When your Highnesse hath awaked the peace of the Church you shal sleep more quietly your selfe and not be troubled any more with Constantines carefull nights You are our Salomon to iudge betweene vs they that loue diuision and to contend causlesse let them haue the least part Theodosius when Catholikes and Heretikes put vp their libels to him prayed God to direct him so your Maiestie well knoweth that your direction herein must come from God Diuerse complaints as lots are cast into your Princely lap but the disposition thereof is of the Lord. God we trust and for the same pray will so dispose your royall heart that the best cause may haue the first lot the most honest suite the happiest issue and the iustest quarrell the fairest triall Faile not their godly desire herein most gracious Prince that neuer would haue failed you who were resolued I speake herein of mine owne knowledge to haue aduentured their liues and states for your Maiesties iust title who waited for you as for the raine and for the consolation of Israell Faile not then O noble King the hope of Christs Church yea the expectation of Angels yea the trust that Christ hath committed vnto you to be a faithful seruant as Moses in his house so as one saith The eyes of men are not only cast vpon you and the whole land setled to behold your life but God and Angels expect your faithfull seruice God we verily trust will not faile you with his spirit but as the Prophet saith Whosoeuer calleth vpon the name of the Lord shal be saued so your prayers and teares which you poure vnto God shall both saue you and your people as one said to Augustines mother Non potest perire tantarum lachrymarum filius the child of such prayers and teares cannot possibly perish or fall away Now as to our great comfort we enioy your Maiestie a norishing father of Christs Church at home so your Highnesse is expected to be a succour and comfort to other afflicted Churches abroad though you are not as a head to direct them yet you may be as a hand to helpe them though not a roote to giue them life and sap yet as a wall for the small branches to runne vpon to stay them vp as it is said of Ioseph It was Iosua his honour to ayde the Gibeonites their confederates against the combined Kings of Canaan Dauid was a captaine to all that were distressed and afflicted Hercules is honoured in heathen stories because he trauelled through the world to remoue cruell gouernours Noble Alexander is famous for the same who conquered a great part of the world reducing rude and barbarous people to ciuill life who charged all to esteeme the whole world as their countrey good men as their countrymen the bad as aliens and strangers Our English Chronicles do blame Henry the second for refusing to take the protection and defence of the distressed Christians in Ierusalem offered vnto him by Heraclius the Patriarke the troubles that befell him at home are ascribed to that cause But Ecclesiasticall stories make honourable mention of the Emperour Theodosius the younger whose loue was such to the afflicted people of God that being present to behold certaine publicke sights and shewes and there hearing of the death of one Ioannes a cruell rebell and tyrant presently left the playes and went to the Church to giue thankes to God Queene Elizabeth was a foster mother to all distressed Christians and I doubt not but all Protestants in the world shall receiue comfort in the cause of Religion from your Maiesties fauour in being a mediator for their peace or succour for their reliefe But of all other we the poore companie of schollers and students haue greatest cause to reioyce in your Maiestie whom now we haue obtained a learned and iudiciall patron of our labours and writings whereas before no gift or present was held to be more base nor lesse regarded of all hands Schollers bookes the trauaile of the soule the weakning of the bodie the care of the day and studie of the night were not not so welcome to the most as a Lawyers fee from the client or a tenants new-yeares gift to his Land-lord I your Maiesties poore subiect could speake herein by experience what small hartening I haue had in the world for my poore trauels in the Church but I will be sparing in mine owne cause And yet I speake not this as though we expected our reward from men though we be men and had need of terrene encouragement but I am bold a poore writer of this Church of England to poure forth the common griefe and complaint of students in this behalfe into your princely bosome Bookes were growne into such small request that many would scarce vouchsafe the reading of them but few beare in mind who presented them they were layed aside by the walles or set vp onely to make a shew as one saith Sacrorum opera ingeniorum in speciem cultum parietum comparantur The labours of sacred wits were vsed onely to beautifie the walles But now we trust as Homers Iliads were accepted of Alexander which he made 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 the furniture of his iourney Terence workes of Scipio Origens bookes of Ambrosius whom he called 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 because hee continually prouoked him to write and as Hieromes writings were esteemed of Damasus so I doubt not but scholers labours shall be as welcome to your Maiestie as any other subiects presents And in this confidence I haue bene bold againe to offer my seruice to your Maiestie For as he that made that harpe wherewith Thales appeased the tumult of the Lacedaemonians and he that built the ship wherewith Themistocles did defend Greece had cause more to reioice therein then in any worke beside so to none else we more willingly present our labours then to your sacred Maiestie a generall procurer of our peace and defender of Church and countrey whose vigilant heart careth for all whose diligent eye seeth for all whose liberal hand reacheth vnto all And not onely at this present but while I liue haue I purposed to consecrate my pen to the honor of your Maiestie if God will you please And I say with Hierome Quamdiu in hoc corpusculo sum scribam aliquid gratum
of iustification sacraments originall sinne predestination of faith of the law of the Gospell of the nature of Christ his descending to hell c. p. 7. Ans. First these dissensions giuen in instance are betweene those which are called Lutheranes and vs who wherein they differ and dissent from vs come neerer to the Papists then Protestants as in the opinions of the corporall presence in the Eucharist of the vbiquitie or omnipresence of Christes bodie of free will vniuersall grace hypotheticall election faith of infants and such like but among the Protestants that purely professe the Gospell of Christ and especially in England there is no difference or dissent in any of these points or those before obiected or in any other substantiall point of faith If it shall be obiected that among vs some question there is concerning the descent into hell it is not of the truth and substance of the article which no Protestant denieth but of the manner onely wherein there is as great a difference in the popish Church for Durand a principall Doctor of that side maintaineth contrarie to the opinion of the rest that Christ did not descend into hell secundum substantiam suam sed per effectus quosdam not in the substance of his soule but onely by certaine effects whom Bellarmine of purpose confuteth Secondly neither needeth the aduersarie to obiect against Protestants this diuision betweene them and the Lutheranes seeing there is as great a rent in the Papall Church for the whole Church of France dissenteth from the common opinion of the Romanists in very principall points they to this day do not acknowledge the Pope to be aboue generall Councels and for this cause they do not submit themselues to the decrees of the late Tridentiâ—e Synode neither take it for a generall Councell They refuse also the sixt booke of the Decretals and of late by a publike Edict they haue expelled the whole order of Iesuites out of the kingdome of France who are in other places of the Popes dominion of greatest credite and estimation Thirdly though the intemperate heate of some Lutheran writers can not be excused against the Ministers of the reformed Churches as fayling both in the cause which they handle and in the manner of handling for among our selues such bitter inuectiues are not vsed yet of all other the rayling of popish sectaries one against another most exceedeth as may plentifullie appeare in the late writings and bookes of the Popish Priests and Iesuites set forth against themselues The Priests call their Iesuited Arch-priest traiterous a vassall parasite idoll of the Iesuites a puppie dauncing after the Iesuites pipe Manifestat p. 25. a. The Iesuites they call knaues conspiring companions Man p. 32. b. They charge them with traiterous blasphemous words Mans. p. 35 a. with coggerie blasphemie Manifes 53. b. with erroneous and hereticall doctrine Manif p. 106. a. damned for heretikes p. 105. a. progenie of vipers blasphemous wretches proud pharisees Man 108. a. traiterous positions hatched in hell Replie p. 67. a. Against Frier Robert Parsons in particular the Priests thus bestirre them they compare him to Robin Goodfellow Rep. p. 79. b. they call him the foxed father Rep. 67. a. a diabolicall vnnaturall wicked fellow Man p. 107. a. cursed be the houre wherein he was borne this child of sinne of sacriledge of iniquitie of the deuill ib. b. he hath shaped the declaration of the spirit of Sathan Rep. p. 102. a. And of all the Iesuites in generall they thus speake and write the Iesuiticall ghosts and such wicked spirits as traÌ„sforming theÌ„selues into angels of light do leade more soules to hell then the feends of most vglie shape appearing in their owne proper colours Man p. 81. b. Now on the other side let vs see how Frier Parsons requiteth their kindnes he chargeth them with follie phrenzie Maâ— fol. 11. with erroneous hereticall positions f. 13. perfidious sycophants f. â—7 with lyes false calumniations little conscience f. 41. He further saith they lye notoriouslie against their conscience f. 46. egregious foolerie Man f. 65. wicked companions consciencelesse rayling people f. 90. franticke possessed mad insolent f. 94. Apostata in heart traiterous and Iudas like natures f. 98. vsed of the deuill f. 83. diuelish detraction f. 94. diuelish hatred f. 98. assault of Sathan vnder Priests coates c. f. 99. So I trust that the saying of Christ will shortly be verified vpon this Sathanicall broode as it beginneth thanks be to God to be in part fulfilled in England alreadie that because Sathan maketh insurrection against Sathan his kingdome is at an end Mark 3.26 Now I hope by this it is euident who they are that condemne each other to hell not Protestants but Papists for thus as we see they hew one at another and one whet an other as 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 one yron sharpneth an other as Salomon sayth Prou. 27.17 and though their toongs be also whet against the truth yet shall they not preuaile the more they hewe at it the more shall it flourish like as the plant 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 which being cut doth sprout and contendeth with yron But because they brag in their talke and swords are in their lips Psal. 59.7 this reward they shall haue which we see now come to passe their owne toong shall fall vpon them Psal. 64.8 And as Origen saith surget gens contra gentem i. haeresis contra haeresin one nation shall rise against another that is one heresie against another as the heresie of the Iesuites against the Priests The fift probation is from a particular induction of diuers sects among the Germanes to the number of 37. and affirmed by the computation of Caspar Vlenbergius to be 260. knowne sects by Oecolampadius 77. diuisions are confessed and Luther is produced a witnesse affirming as many religions to be among them as men p. 7. Ans. 1. If all this were admitted without contradiction that so many diuisions were among the Protestants it were no sufficient argument to condemne our religion for then by the same rule the Idolatrous Paganes might haue disproued the Christians faith because they were diuided into so many sundrie sects Simonians Menandrians Basilidians Nicolaites Gnostickes Carpocratians Corinthians Nazarites Ebionites Valentinians and diuers others to the number of fourescore and tenne rehearsed by Augustine 2. These sects by him noted hauing their beginning in Germanie disgrace not the Protestancie of England that is not so distracted And whereas the freedome of that countrey and of many chiefe cities there forcing no mans conscience but tolerating diuers religions might seeme to giue way to this diuersitie therein the fault is rather to be imputed to the politike state then to the Religion professed 3. It is vntrue that Vlenbergius Caus. 22. numbreth 260. diuisions among Protestants for in that place he treateth of no such thing And Caus. 9. where he professedly setteth
three proofes are produced First the multiplicitie of suites Secondly the multitude of statutes Thirdly the testimonie of Protestant writers that complaine of the impietie of these times pag. 8.9 For the first he appealeth to the testimonie of Iudges records of Courts c. contentions betweene tenant and tenant Lord and Lord Lord and tenant c. to the rich estate of so many Lawyers pag. 8. Ans. 1. Although the multiplying of suites and aptnes to goe to law and that for trifles be not commendable yet it is no sufficient argument to disable and make a nullitie of a Church for euen the Corinthians to whom S. Paul doubteth not to ascribe the name of the Church of God were contentious and full of quarrels as the Apostle saith vnto them Now therefore there is vtterly a fault among you because ye goe to law one with another why rather suffer you not wrong c. 1. Cor. 6.7 2. If suites haue encreased since the expulsion of the Popes iurisdiction out of England religion is not the cause thereof but other probable reasons may bee yeelded without any blame to the Church or Religion first because since the dissolution of Abbeys and the dispersing of those lands into many mens hands which before were vnited and annexed to those Corporations it could not otherwise be chosen but that questions about titles and priuiledges should grow as infinite were the suites which were commenced before betweene Abbots and Bishops the Priors and their Couents betweene one Cell and another which controuersies haue had their time and now begin to slake as Westminster Hall can testifie and in the next succeeding age are like to be fewer and we wish they may so be As for Lawyers wealth it is no disparagement to the Gospell though it may be a blot to their conscience if it bee not rightfully gotten neither are there many that haue of late daies gained so much by the law though some I confesse by the confluence of Clients and if I may so say the monopolie of causes haue gotten enough for it is thought that scarse the tenth man of the whole number that are called to the Barre do get their maintenance by it And it is well knowne that some of your friends and welwillers Frier Robert or Richard or what els the first letter of your name R. betokeneth haue helped to share and shaue in the law among the rest Secondly whereas many appeales were made to the Sea of Rome and infinite causes promoted thither Bishops fetcht vp their Chapters Priors their Couents by processe to Rome Archbishops their Suffraganes yea sometime the subiects their King Is there not great cause since this forraine course in prosecuting of suites was stopped that much more busines thereby be procured at home so that the floods of causes which streamed into that sea being turned an other way must needes make an inundation and ouerflowing of suites at home Thirdly the Gospell hath not caused such multiplicitie of suites but it is an abuse of this long peace which hath increased the wealth of the land and riches breede quarrels and make men impatient of wrongs I make no doubt but that in our neighbour kingdome of France suites haue beene multiplied and Lawyers thereby farre more aduantaged since the appeasing of the ciuill warres then in many yeares before which change can not be layed vpon their religion which is not there changed but vpon the alteration of the times This then is not an effect of the Gospell but a defect in those that know not to make vse of this peace and abundance procured by the Gospell 3 This obiection of vnkind and vnnaturall suites and debates doth most fitlie rebound vpon their owne heads for neuer was the Clergie fuller of stomacke nor more readie to reuenge and apt to quarrell then vnder the yoke of Poperie What contentions then hapned sometime betweene the King and the Archbishop as between King William and Lanfranke King Henry the first and Anselme King Stephen and Richard Henry the second and Becket King Iohn and Ste. Lancton King Henry the third and Boniface sometime between Archbishops and their Suffraganes Bishops and Monks Deane and Chapter secular Priests and Monks betweene Friers of one sort and Friers of another Such were the sturres and broyles betweene the Archbishop of Canterburie and Richard of Yorke betweene Lanfranke and Archbishop Thomas betweene Theobald A. B. of Canterbury and Siluester Abbot of S. Austens betweene William of Canturbury and Ieremias Prior betweene Boniface Archbishop of Canterbury and the Canons of S. Paule betweene the said Boniface and the Monks of S. Bartlemew that sate there in harnesse in his visitation betweene the Abbots of Westminster and the Monks of the same house between William of Winchester and Boniface of Canterburie betweene the said Boniface and the Canons of Lincolne betweene the Monks of Canterbury Canons of Liechfield a number of such hote contentions and friuolous quarels might be produced which haue raigned in Poperie what Bishops sea what Abbey Nunrie Chappell what Church cathedrall conuentuall or collegiate was free from these broyles And as these contentions were many so they grew vpon small occasions as betweene Boniface of Canterbury and the Canons of Lincolne for giuing of a prebend betweene Edmond of Canterbury and the Monks of Rochester for the election of the Bishop between Gilbert of Rochester and Robert the Popes Legate for sitting at his right hand betweene the Abbot of Bardney and the said Robert for the visitation of the Abbey betweene William of Elie and the Canons of Yorke for not receiuing him with Procession Thus the Popish Clergie vpon the wagging of euerie strawe were readie one to offend an other And concerning vnnaturall suites among kinsfolks brethren parents and children and for vnsufferable abuses he might for shame here haue held his peace seeing all these haue so abounded and ouerflowed in Poperie when the husband became a betrayer and persecutor of his wife as Iohn Greebill of Agnes his wife a poore woman that was burned at Exceter was persecuted of her husband the father betrayed his children as Woodman his sonne Richard the children accused their parents as Christopher and Iohn Greebill their mother Agnes Greebill children were constrained to set fire to their parents as Ioane Clearke to her naturall father William Tilsworth and the children of Iohn Scriuener did the like the brother conspired his brothers death as Alphonsus Diazius a Spaniard most trayterouslie sent vp his man with a Carpenters axe wherewith he killed his brother Ioannes Diazius at Nuburge in Germanie himselfe staying and waiting belowe till the bloudie act was performed Who seeth not now how shamelesse and impudent these men are to obiect these things to the Protestants vntruly which are verified and iustified vpon themselues Such vnnaturall and wicked practises as these are shall they neuer be able to produce against vs. This accusation
more then twentie of the Popes haue been giuen to that diuelish studie How Papists are confuters of Philosophers I leaue it to their owne report of one Maldonat an Ignatian sectarie that in a great auditorie in one lecture laboured to proue by naturall reasons that there is a God in an other that there is none and that the Iesuites do mainetaine at this day by the penne of Rene de la Fon that the Godhead must be proued by naturall reason 2 Vntrue also it is that Poperie hath conquered so many heresies retayning still a great number of them as is before sufficientlie declared neither haue they cause to brag of their vniuersalitie in subduing all nations for poperie was neuer so generall as pagane Idolatrie neither had the Pope euer commaund of all nations the Greeke Church hauing euer been deuided from him and I trust euery day his iurisdiction will be lesse and his account of nations come short as thanks be to God his nailes are well pared and his armes shortned in many famous cities and kingdomes in Christendome 3 Of the Papists it may be more truly said that they haue as many heads so many religions of the diuers sects and schismes in poperie and differences among their writers which rise to the computation of many hundreds relation hath been made before They are the deniers of scripture not Protestants that haue not blushed to say that the Pope may change the forme of words in baptisme that the Pope may dispense against the new testament that the Pope may dispense against all the precepts of the old and new testament that the scripture taketh authoritie from the Church of Rome that no man may lawfullie beleeue any thing by the authoritie of scripture against the determination of the Church Another saith the authoritie of the scriptures is founded in the allowance of the Church Another Apostoli quaedam scripserunt non vt praessent c. the Apostles writ certaine things not that they should rule faith and religion sed subessent but should be vnder Let any man now iudge if these men be not deniers of scripture which do derogate from the authoritie thereof that take vpon thē to chop change it to annihilate the precepts thereof and dispense against it So they not Protestants are the false translators of scripture who allow the vulgar Latine onely to be authenticall which in many hundred places altereth and corrupteth the Hebrue text As Genes 2.8 God planted a garden from the beginning for toward the East Genes 15. she shall breake thy head for he Gen. 4.13 they reade my sinne is greater then I can deserue pardon for then I can beare Gen. 6.5 their cogitation intent to euill for onely euill continuallie Gen. 12.15 and the princes told Pharao for the princes of Pharao saw her Gen. 26.9 why didst thou lye for why saidst thou v. 19. they digged in torrente in the brooke for in the vallie Gen. 35.16 he came in the spring time to the ground which bringeth to Ephratha for there was a little space of ground to come to Ephrah Genes 36.24 found out hoate waters in the wildernes for Mules Gen. 40.13 shall remember thy seruice for shall lift vp thy head Psal. 68.4 exalt him that ascendeth super occasum vpon the west or sunne-set for vpon the heauens v. 6. deliuereth prisoners in strength for in fetters v. 13. though ye sleepe betweene the lots for lien among the pots v. 17. tenne thousand for twentie thousand and a thousand such places might be alleaged wherein they haue corrupted the scriptures The Papists also are the men that forge scripture and other euidences for they thrust vpon the Church diuers Apocryphall bookes of Tobie Iudith Macchabees with the rest which the auncient Church of the Iewes to whom all the bookes of the old Testament and oracles of God were committed neuer receiued nor allowed So haue they forged and deuised diuers other writings as the Decretall epistles of the auncient Bishops of Rome which were Martyrs as of Zepherinus Calixtus Pontianus Vrbanus Fabianus with the rest which are all counterfeit stuffe as are also the leiturgie of S. Iames the writings that passe vnder the name of S. Martialis Abdias Hippolytus Dionysius and many such as is elsewhere declared more at large 4 Neither is it true that popish religion is founded vpon the infallible word of God conteyned in the scriptures but most of it vpon blind fallible and vncertaine traditions and many opinions the Church of Rome holdeth directlie opposite and contrarie to scripture as elsewhere hath been shewed Thus this friuolous aduersarie passeth on along heaping vp sclaunders and vntruths not remembring what the wise man sayth Lying lips are an abomination to the Lord but they that deale trulie are his delight But we neede not maruaile at it for this is familiar with thē with great boldnes to face out their owne forgeries and they may well say in Hieromes phrase domi nobis ista nascuntur we haue plentie of such stuffe at home But as the Lacedemonian magistrates said to Cephisophon the Orator when they expelled him that it was a good Orators part to make his speech answereable to his matter so should this sophister haue done and not to professe truth in his speech where none is in his matter The fift Perswasion 1 I Defend a religion where so much vertue is practised such obedience chastitie pouertie c. 2 Which brought the professors thereof to heauen as religious Heremites Monks Friers Priests Bishops Popes c. 3 Not that religion which made those which before were good chast obedient and contemners of the world to be wicked and giuen to impietie The Disswasion 1 WHat obedience poperie teacheth to their princes the late practises both in England and Fraunce do proclayme to all the world as the treacherous conspiracie of Parry incited by Cardinall Coomes letters of Somerfield and Arden sollicited by Hall a popish priest of Babington with other stirred vp by Ballard Lopez by Parsons Sauage and Yorke by Gifford Squire by Walpoole a Iebusite In Fraunce Iames Clement a Iacobine murdered Henry the third Barriere and Chastell attempted the like against the now King of Fraunce at the instigation of the Iesuites The Prince of Orange was by the like treacherie murdered and the death of the Chancelor of Scotland intended This may suffice to shew their obedience For their chastitie I appeale to the stories written of their vnholie fathers the Popes What place in the Christian world can afford more filthie spectacles of adulterers incestuous persons Sodomites then that Sea and citie of Rome I appeale to the inquisition made in King Henry the eights raigne at the suppression of the Abbeys when in some places the Priests and Monks were descried to haue kept some two some three some sixe some more one among the rest twentie concubines
reclaymed that all creatures haue done homage to them the sea and waters against nature supported them the rauening foules nourished them c. the deuils themselues with trembling obeyed them The Disswasion 1 THese stories being admitted which are reported by the forenamed authors of the miracles wrought by the Apostles holie Martyrs and Confessors of the Primitiue Church though we haue great cause to suspect that some of these stories haue been corrupted by their euill handling thorough whose fingers since they haue passed and that in many things the authors themselues might be too credulous yet what doth this aduantage the aduersaries cause Let him first proue that the Apostles and the holie Martyrs and Confessors were Papists before he seeke to winne grace by their miracles He might as well haue mustred on his side all the signes and miracles wrought by Christ and his Apostles as these which were done by holie men continuing in the Apostolike faith and doctrine 2 But they can tell vs of miracles to take away this first answere which were effected by such men as were knowne to be great patrones of diuers popish superstitions such were Odo Dunstane Editha Bernake Bartlemew a Monke of Durrham Augustine the Monke Brendane with such others And that euery one may iudge of the truth herein I will produce the miracles ascribed to these Pope-saints and martiall them in their order Of Odo it is reported that he caused a sword to come flying into King Ethelstanes sheath when he had lost his owne as he should fight with Analanus that he kept the Church of Canterburie that no raine dropt vpon it while the roofe was in making that when he brake the hoast ouer the chalice being at Masse it dropped bloud Such like stuffe is fathered vpon Dunstane how being tempted with the cogitation of women he caught the diuel with a paire of tongs by the nose and held him fast how a Lute hanging vpon the wall did sing and play alone without any touch of finger how by making the signe of the crosse hee set a great beame of an house being displaced into his right roome againe How the Virgine Mary with her fellowes appeared visiblie to him singing and the Angels often talked familiarlie with him Of Editha this tale goeth that her bodie being taken vp by Dunstane all was found corrupted but onely her thombe wherewith she vsed to crosse and her bellie for her chastitie as she her selfe is said to haue expounded the mysterie appearing to Dunstane yet this chast Nun is detected in the truer histories to haue been King Edgars concubine by whom she had a base sonne whosoeuer worshipped the Tombe of this Editha if they were blind deafe halt mad were healed saith the Legend writer Bernacus went ouer the sea vpon a broad stone turned Oake leaues into loaues stones into fishes water into wine his Cow being cut in pieces he restored to life The same author saith that Christ appeared to Austine and talked familiarly with him that Bartilmew saluted a wooden Crucifixe and it bowed downe and resaluted him againe that Brendan caused a fountaine to rise out of a drie ground and was caried into Paradise A thousand such tales their Breuiaries Itineraries Legends containe 3. And that wee thinke it not strange that Poperie so aboundeth with miracles the Pagan Idolaters shall vie with them at this stake and the best cards take all For raising of the dead they will tell vs that Zamolxis in Scythia Pythagoras in Italie Ramsimitus in Egypt Protesilaus in Thessalia Hercules in Tenarus all went downe to hell that is were dead and raised vp againe But Celsus that Heathen scoffer doth deride these fables For strange transmutations and metamorphoses there shall we finde that Amphiaraus speare was chaunged into a Laurell tree being pricked downe in the ground of Smyrna chaunged into Myrrha by chaunging certes of the letters and not otherwise of Diomedes companions turned into birds Vlysses fellowes into beasts of the Arcadians into wolues Lucianus and Apuleius into Asses For miraculous passage vpon the seas they will report vnto vs how Arion the Musician and Enalus with the Virgine which he loued leaping into the sea were borne vp by the Delphines and caried safe to land What can now the Romane Iconolaters say more for themselues in this kind then the Pagan Idolaters If Religion should be tried by miracles the one as well as the other can tell vs tales enough if wee will beleeue them But what is to be thought of these lying and fained miracles Augustine will tell vs Remoueantur ista vel mendacia fallacium hominum vel portenta mendacium spirituum Remoue out of the way these lies of deceitfull men or strange deceits of lying spirits 4. I will further shew the vanitie of the forged and deuised miracles by these reasons following First it is euident by the testimonie of the ancient Fathers that miracles were not vsuall in their time Ambrose saith Quare nunc non ita fit vt habeant homines gratiam Dei qua operentur miracula Why haue not men now adaies grace giuen them to worke miracles Augustine saith Modò iam caeci non aperit oculos miraculo Domini c. Now the blind receiueth not his bodily sight by the miracle of our Lord but the blind heart receiueth sight by the oracle or word of the Lord now the dead bodie riseth not but the soule riseth that was dead in the liuing bodie now the deafe eares are not opened c. Bernard saith Licet nostra non habeamus miracula c. Although we haue no miracles of our owne yet the miracles of our patrone are a consolation to vs. Seeing then these Fathers thought that they had no power to worke miracles what impudencie is it against their owne iudgement to ascribe miracles vnto them As an Epistle goeth vnder Augustines name wherein he is fained to report that as he was about to write a letter to Hierome his soule being lately departed appeared vnto him and talked with him Likewise how Hierome after his death caused the soules of diuers to returne to their bodies and so they reuiued againe how hee deliuered one condemned to hell and how sixteene blind persons were restored to sight in the translation of his bodie Of Bernard it is auouched that after his death he healed eleuen blind tenne maimed and eighteene lame persons and all these miracles Bellarmine iustifieth to haue been so truly done How are they not ashamed to father such fables vpon the Fathers contrarie to their own iudgment Secondly this may be an euident argument that these Legends smell because they make miracles so common to flow from them in heapes as that Hierome healed sixteene blind at once Bernard in one day of all infirmities 39. persons Hilarion is affirmed to haue cured 200. possessed with diuels at Cyprus beside a
so ample in iurisdiction that no temporall Prince Christian or Infidell no professor of regiment in ecclesiasticall causes c. was by many degrees possessed of so large a regiment 8. Our priuate Priests the most reuerend and learned fathers of the societie of Iesus are honoured of the greatest Princes in the world c. The disswasion 1. NEither doe I defend that religion that diuideth the militant and triumphant Church in robbing God of his honour in giuing it to Angels and Saints against their wils who refused to bee worshipped here in earth as the Angell of Iohn and Peter of Cornelius And therefore God requireth no such honour to be giuen vnto them so that as our Sauiour saith of Moses There is one which accuseth you euen Moses in whom ye trust euen so the Angels and Saints shall be witnesses and accusers of popish superstitious worshippers who honour the creature in steed of the Creator But the religion which Protestants professe and I defend doth make but one familie in heauen and in earth Ephes 3.15 ioyning them together in an holie societie and communion we in earth giuing thankes for them whom God hath deliuered from these terrene miseries and they longing to see vs also with the whole Church to be made partakers of their ioy As Cyprian saith Magnus illic charorum numerus nos expectat parentum fratrum filiorum de salute sua securi de nostra solliciti A great number of our friends doth there looke for vs of our parents brethren sonnes secure of their saluation and sollicitous for ours Other entercourse betweene the Church militant and triumphant there is none neither of our prayers to them that were superstitious for the Lord saith Call vpon me in the day of trouble and I will deliuer thee Psal. 50.15 nor of their help and assistance to vs that were superfluous God is able alone and sufficient to defend his Church as the Angell saith None holdeth with me in these things in the defence of the Church but Michael your prince which is Christ. Dan. 10.21 2. Which doth not that wrong to the faithfull departed to thrust them downe into the extreame paines of purgatorie which they say exceede all the paines of this life when as the Scripture saith that they which dye in the Lord doe from thencefoorth rest from their labours and all teares are wiped from their eyes They neede not therefore any reliefe from the liuing being in ioy and happines 3. Which doth not make any representation of Christ by Images for wee are commaunded not to corrupt our selues in making any grauen image or representation of any figure Deuter. 4.16 Neither doth it presume to offer vp Christ in sacrifice as the Papall priesthood doth because the Scripture saith that Christ doth not offer himselfe often but he appeared once to put away sinne by the sacrifice of himselfe And with one offering hath hee consecrated for euer them that are sanctified But our religion prescribeth the holie Sacrament of the bodie and bloud of Christ to bee vsed according to his institution in his remembrance as our Sauiour himselfe saith Doe this in remembrance of me Whereupon it was thus concluded and resolued in a generall Councell Ecce viuificantis illius corporis imaginem totam panis scilicet substantiam quam mandauit apponi Behold the whole or all the image of that quickening bodie the substance of bread which he commaunded to be vsed We haue then no other commemoration or representatiue image of Christ but onely the Sacrament celebrated according to his owne institution As for blasphemous swearing by instruments of our redemption though too many among Protestants are addicted to that euill custome yet he might haue bin ashamed to obiect it to vs knowing how common a thing it is among Papists to sweare as it appeareth by their own Synode which thus complaineth Quo colore nunc consuetudo passim iurantium in omni negotio excusari possit non videmus With what colour the custome of such which sweare vpon euerie occasion can be excused wee see not Those sacrilegious oathes to sweare by the Masse by the crosse nailes bodie bloud of Christ his wounds by S. Peter S. Anne S. Mary and the rest where els had they their beginning but in Poperie Yea it seemeth that swearing by such is not onely vsuall among them but commendable also for one Sanpaulinus for reprouing one of swearing was suspected to be a Lutherane and thereupon further examined sifted condemned and burned at Paris ann 1551. 4. It is also vntrue that there is no consecration or distinction of callings among vs for both Bishops haue their consecration from the Metropolitane with his Suffraganes and Ministers their ordination from their Ordinaries by imposition of hands which ought to be and is assisted with other Presbyters The Prince doth not challenge any power or authoritie of the Ministrie of any diuine offices in the Church or to conferre orders or consecration but onely by the Letters Patents conferreth the temporalties of Bishoprickes the Metropolitane with his assistance consecrateth as other Patrones present to benefices and the Ordinarie instituteth And this hath been the ancient vse and custome of England and prerogatiue of the Crowne that licence should be demaunded of the King to chuse and his royall consent to be had after election made as it is euident in diuers ancient statutes 5. As for the Papall Hierarchie it is altogether imperfect and out of order 1. The office of the Pope is iniurious and Antichristian taking vpon him to haue iurisdiction and prerogatiue ouer all other Bishops contrarie both to the Scriptures which gaue vnto all the Apostles the same authoritie and to them al the keyes were equallie committed and power to binde and loose Mat. 18.18 And to the Canons for Nicen. 1. can 6. parilis mos the like custome and iurisdiction is decreed to the Patriarke of Alexandria as to the Bishop of Rome Chalcidonens action 16. equall priuiledges are yeelded to Constantinople which is called new Rome as to old Rome The like may be shewed out of the eight first generall Councels The offices of Archbishops and Bishops as wee condemne not absolutely when they are vsed not as titles of ambition but as holesome meanes to preserue vnitie as they should be exercised among Protestants so in the Papall policie wee mislike them being but the Popes creatures and fit props to vphold his Antichristian and vsurped power But concerning your seuen orders of Priests Deacons Subdeacons Acolythists Readers Exorcists Doorekeepers wee hold them as superfluous and vnnecessarie seruices The Apostle sheweth that Christ hath giuen some to be Apostles some Prophets some Euangelists some pastors some teachers for the gathering together of the Saints for the worke of the Ministrie for the edification of the bodie of Christ c. If these bee sufficient to
edifie the Church and to labour in the Ministerie then are these Popish degrees vnnecessarie and not giuen of Christ neither belonging to the ministerie of the Gospell And if they will needes bring in Doorekeepers to bee an order of the Clergie why not Sextins also Belringers graue-makers Church-sweepers Waxe-chandlers water-bearers whip-dogs and what you will for all these there is vse of in the Church and so for seuen orders wee shall haue twice so many This is the goodly Hierarchie which this Ignatian Nouice boasteth of 6. I doubt not but the meanest office of the Gospell is more honorable before God then the greatest Antichristian dignity which are plants not of the Lords planting and therefore shall be rooted out The indeleble character which they say is by their Popish orders imprinted in the soule of the receiuer whereby they are made partakers of Christs priestly power and really distinguished from others is indeede nothing but an Idol of the minde and an imaginarie phantasie for spiritually in the soule and before God there is no difference betweene the Priest and the people Christ hath made vs Kings and Priests vnto God his father and all Christians are a chosen generation a royall Pristhood And as for your ens rationis it is the very opinion of some Papists that the character of Priesthood is no reall qualitie of the minde but onely rationalis respectus a relation or rationall respect Durand Scotus holdeth that it cannot be prooued by any manifest testimonie of Scripture Gabriel doubteth whether the Church haue defined it They are your owne Church-seruitors Sextins Doore-keepers Church-sweepers that are made no otherwise then Purseuants Apparitors c. The Ministers of the Gospell though they are not really distinguished from the people by any inherent qualitie of greater holines and more merit yet are diuers in the ecclesiasticall Oeconomie and dispensation of the Church in their different functions and offices whereunto they are set apart first by the probation and examination of their gifts Secondly by the imposition of hands with prayer of the Elders and pastors Thirdly by their endowment and abilitie of gifts for the execution of their Ministrie all which the Popish priesthood wanteth 7 A manifest vntruth it is that the Pope hath had more ample iurisdiction then any Prince Christian or Infidell for the halfe of those countries neuer submitted themselues to the Popes deuotion which were vnder the Emperours obedience Constantine the great had commaund ouer all Europe Africa all Asia minor Arabia Armenia Phrygia as it may appeare by the assemblie of Bishops called by the Emperours authoritie out of all these countries to the generall Nicen Councel And at this time both the great Turke in Europe and Asia and Prester Iohn in Africa haue larger dominions and greater authoritie then euer the Romane Bishops haue had That iurisdiction which now the Pope hath is thankes to God brought into a narrower compasse though it bee too much and I trust shall euery day bee more confined And whatsoeuer power hee hath or euer had ouer other Churches is but vsurped for Peter from whom he claimeth was but the Apostle of the Circumcision S. Pauls lot was ouer the vncircumcision 8. This last article containeth nothing but vntruth For neither haue these Ignatian fathers which cal themselues proudly of the societie of Iesus conuerted by their preachings many kingdomes to the regiment of Christ but rather subuerted and corrupted them in faith The Spaniards tyrannie hath subdued the poore Indians not the Iebusites hypocrisie though they tell vs of many fabulous and lying miracles wrought by Xauiere and other of that order in those coasts as hath been shewed before Indeed it is well knowne how they haue attempted to reduce diuers kingdomes to the temporall gouernment of the Pope-catholike King of Spaine by their treacherous conspiracies and wicked deuices to take away the liues of Princes Such were the accursed attempts of Commolet a seditious Iebusite in France and Varade another false brother of that order cōfederate with Barriere to take away the life of the now King of France and of Guignard and Guerret Iebusite Priests conuicted of treason and Iohn Chastel brought vp in that societie who was worthily executed for attempting the Kings death In England such haue been the practises of Saunders Allen Campion Parsons Walpoole with diuers other of that ranke who by their traiterous plots haue practised against the life of our late Soueraigne to bring this famous Countrie into slauish seruitude to Spaine which I assuredly trust shall neuer be And these are the fruites of the preaching and paines of this irreuerent order Vntrue also it is that they are honoured of the greatest and richest princes in the world for the renowmed King of France who in riches puissance and greatnes is not inferiour to any Christian Prince neither honoureth or fauoureth them but the whole order for working against the peace of that state was by decree of the Parliament of Paris anno 1594. exiled and expelled that nation Let it also be noted by the way that this Ignatian and Iebusited brother much like the rest of his order counted the Queene of England his then Soueraigne none of the great puissant rich or Catholike Princes for I thinke he is not so blinded to imagine that either her Highnes then or his Maiestie now and the state fauoureth them or hath any cause so to doe That Iesuites are so familiar with some Princes that haue giuen their power to the beast I do not maruell seeing this hath bene prophecied of before for they are the frogs that come out of the Dragons mouth that goe vnto the kings of the earth Reuel 16.13.14 But if such Princes were not blinded or had but like experience of their cloaked holines and mysticall impietie as their neighbour Princes haue they would soone find thē to be vnfit Courtiers but more vnwholesome Counsellors And me thinks these Polypragmon friers ietting in Princes Courts and intermedling in State-affaires are much-what like to limping Vulcane in Homere that taking vpon him to be a skinker to the Gods a great laughter sodainely was taken vp among them But it were happie that such Princes would take counsell of thēselues and not endure to be caried away with these seditious frierlie humors Hieromes counsell were good to such Verba ei de alieno stomacho non fluant faciat quod vult non quod velle compellitur Let not their words and sentence depend of anothers will but let them do as their owne mind moueth them not as an others humor forceth them As for the noble kingdomes of England Scotland Fraunce they haue sufficient experience of this kind of vermin no more to be bitten by them But as Pythagoras gaue this precept to his schollers not to tast of such things as had blacke tayles that is not to conuerse with men of
was called 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 such is the shauing of Monks and for the like signification of a crowne as hath bene shewed before 8 The Priest of the Sunne among the Phenicians did weare a vestment of purple wrought with gold to shew the dignitie and excellencie of that priesthoode for the same cause haue Masse-priests their rich and costlie copes of diuers colours 9 In Boeotia they vsed to couer the Bride with a vaile and crowne her with flowers which vse is yet retayned in Poperie 10 The heathen vsed to cleanse themselues with sprinkling of water thinking thereby to be purified Thus in Poperie they thinke to purifie their houses the people with casting of holie-water vpon them Is not this now a goodlie religion that retaineth still the idolatrous and superstitious vsages of the heathen that instructeth the people by signes and figures euen as the Paganes preached to theirs May we not iustly returne vpon them the rebuke of the Apostle to the Galathians Seeing you know God how turne yee againe vnto impotent and beggerlie rudiments whereunto as from the beginning you will be in bondage againe Hierome sayth Ego libera voce reclamante mundo pronuntio ceremonias Iudaeorum perniciosas esse mortiferas Christianis quicunque eas obseruauerit in barathrum diaboli deuolutum I do freelie pronounce though the world say nay that the ceremonies of the Iewes are pernicious and deadlie to Christians and whosoeuer obserueth them to be throwne downe to hell much more are they in danger which obserue Pagane ceremonies and inuentions Therefore we take no great care to answere them for this matter resting vpon the words of our Sauiour Let them alone they are blind leaders of the blind Their owne blindnes and grossenes in their superstitious corruptions doth sufficiently bewray the badnes of their cause and madnes of their religion to whom that saying of Plutarch may fitlie be applied You neede not draw a superstitious man out of the temple for there is his punishment and torment So that which this figurecaster hath taken for an argument of their profession is found to be but a torment to their conscience and a punishment of their superstition The twelfth Perswasion 1 I Defend not that religion which denieth all things c. as their opinions all negatiue do witnesse 2 That hath taken away and conuerted from spirituall religious vses to priuate and temporall pleasures and preferments all monuments and foundations of deuotion c. 3 Vsing nothing necessarie to saluation 4 But that religion whose opinions are all affirmatiue 5 That hath founded Churches Schooles Colledges Monasteries 6 That obserueth all things that wanteth or omitteth nothing belonging or that can be required to true religion The Disswasion 1 NEither doth that religion which I defend denie any thing much lesse all things as it is falselie sclaundered that are found to be agreeable to the scriptures neither doth it consist of all negatiues affirming the scriptures to be sufficient and to conteyne all things necessarie to saluation that the Church and generall Councels may erre that the Pope is Antichrist that the scriptures ought to be read in the vulgar toong that Magistrates haue authoritie in spirituall causes that all sinnes in their owne nature are mortall that faith only iustifieth that Christ onely is our alone sufficient mediator that there are onely two sacraments of the new testament an hundred more opinions it holdeth affirmatiuely and the negatiues to these doctrines it refuseth And if our religion should be condemned because it holdeth some negatiues exception likewise might be taken against the Decalogue wherein of ten two commaundements only are affirmatiue the fourth in the first table and the first in the second all the rest are negatiuely propounded 2 An impudent sclaunder it is that the religion of Protestants hath taken away all foundations of deuotion 1. Seeing that Bishoprickes Cathedrall Churches all Colledges in the Vniuersities Hospitals parish Churches erected for maintenance of learning reliefe of the poore for the edifying of the people are yet standing and flourishing among vs. 2. Only those vncleane Cels of Monks the seminaries both of spirituall and corporall fornication are remoued though I denie not but they might better haue beene disposed of as was intended by example and warrant of vertuous Princes As Iosias ouerthrew the foundation of the Chemarims an idolatrous order of Priests erected by his superstitious predecessors Iehu destroyed the house of Baal and made a draught-house of it And things abused to idolatrie are iustlie confiscate to the Prince as Ambrose defendeth the taking away of the lands which were giuen to the maintenance of Pagane idolatrie Sublata sunt praedia quia non religiose vtebantur ijs quae religionis iure defenderent Their lands and manors were taken away because they did not religiouslie vse them which they defended vnder colour of religion 3. Neither were all Abbey-lands conuerted to temporall pleasures and preferments though we graunt too many were but diuers were giuen to Hospitals and Colledges and to other good vses And this is warranted by the imperiall lawes that things abused by false worshippers should be giuen to the vse of the Orthodoxall Church as may appeare by that lawe of the Emperours Valentinian and Martian Domum vel possessionem c. That house or possession which belongeth to heretikes Orthodoxae ecclesiae addici iubemus We will to be annexed to the orthodoxall Church 4. These lands and possessions were surrendred into the Kings hands by the voluntarie act of the owners thereof thereto not forced or constrained as is extant in the publike acts of Parliament and at such a time wherein the popish religion was not altered sauing in the Popes supremacie and therefore this is a false imputation to the Gospell And yet as is before shewed possessions abused by men of false religion by the Imperiall lawes are confiscate to the Prince as it was decreed by Anastasius Praedia possessiones quae in haereticas personas quocunque modo collata vel translata fuerunt fisci nostri iurib decernimus vendicari Lands and manors howsoeuer conferred or translated vpon hereticall parsons we decree to be forfeited to vs. 3 A foule slaunder is vttered of our Religion in the next place for nothing necessarie to saluation is wanting in the profession of the Gospell There is Baptisme for infants catechising for children preaching to beget faith the law to perswade repentance the Gospell for comfort the reading of scripture to increase knowledge the Sacraments to confirme it prayer prescribed if any be afflicted singing of Psalmes for those that are merrie in the Lord godly visitation for the sicke with assurance of remission of sinnes vpon their repentance comfort ouer the dead in the hope of the present rest of
with fearefull sights and terrible scritches c. A right description of popish Purgatorie grounded vpon a faithlesse superstitious feare And such is popish doctrine neither affoording comfort to the liuing nor ioy to the dead that a man can not say of them as a certaine Thessalian being asked who are at most ease answered they which haue made an end of warfare But these which dye in poperie after they haue made an end of the warfare of this life by their doctrine enter into their greatest labours and paines Thus haue we heard with how many cunning sleights this glozing Frier hath endeuoured to perswade vnto his profession he hath wrapped vp together in this one section no lesse then halfe an hundred vntruths and as he began so he endeth with a lye that they were all vnius labij of one language before the Gospell was reuiued for it is certaine that the Greekes alwayes vsed the Greeke toong the Sclauonians the Sclauonian the Aethiopians the Aethiopian language And how vntrue this is their owne canons shall testifie for Innocentius decreed that in great Cities where people resort of diuers languages that the Bishops should prouide fit men qui secundum diuersitates rituum linguarum diuina illis officia celebrent which according to the diuersitie of their rites and languages should celebrate diuine seruice Lastly he telleth vs that he will proue by aboue an hundred arguments that their religion is only true lawfull c. in a certaine booke which he calleth a Resolution pag. 47. li. 32. which pamphlet when he hath hatched it to his perfection and sent it out of the owlelight into the sunne-shine which as yet so farre as I can learne is not come from vnder the brooders wings it may be either I or some of my brethren will plucke a feather with it And thus is this Section ended and with such successe as all lyers and sclaunderers must looke for And though this false accuser might be thrust vnder the old canon which decreeth Vt qui primum obiectum non probarunt ad caetera non admittantur That they which proue not the first thing obiected should not be admitted to the rest yet I will examine whatsoeuer he can say and cast his light stuffe into the balance and lay his counterfeit coyne to the touch that the vanitie of the one and deceit of the other may appeare THE SIXT SECTION WHAT MOVED the Author to dedicate his worke to the Counsell The Answere THis Section comming out of the same forge bewrayeth the same author it is so patched together with vntruths falshoods like the former He abuseth those honorable persons and deceiueth himselfe to thinke to win grace with wise men by telling of fables Simonides being asked why of all other he deceiued not the Thessalians answered because they were more simple and vnlearned then could be deceiued by me sayth he But their honors are too wise and prudent then to be deluded with such a fablers fictions His seuerall motiues confusedlie shuffled together I will bring into some order if I can 1. Motiue As this cause which I handle is most honorable of all so I am bold to offer the defence thereof to your honors the most honorable and noble consistorie of our nation c. Yet he limiteth this honorable authoritie before saying that the ends and offices of a religious and spirituall common-wealth are diuers from those of a temporall and ciuill gouernment and in that respect matters handled in the one do not so properlie appertaine to the redresse and iudgement of those which rule in the other but are to be decided and reformed by the gouernors of that profession to which they are belonging c. The remooue 1. I had thought that the generall end both of the ciuill and ecclesiasticall bodie had beene one and the same though the offices and functions be diuers namely preseruation not onely of peace but the maintenance of true religion to bring the people vnto God I am sure S. Paule so teacheth that prayer be made for Kings and all that are in authoritie not only that we may leade a quiet and peaceable life but in all godlines and honestie It belongeth then not onely to the ciuill state to prouide for peace that the people may liue quietlie but for true religion that they may liue also godlie honestlie In these two points Eleutherius sometime Bishop of Rome sheweth the office of a King to consist thus writing to Lucius King of Britaine The people and folke of the Realme of Britaine be yours whome if they be deuided you ought to gather together in concord and peace to call them to the faith and lawe of Christ and to the holie Church c. 2. It is an absurd speech that reformation of religion belongeth not properlie to the iudgement and redresse of the Prince her noble Counsellors Thus these pragmaticall Friers would both pull out their right eye of iudgement that they should not be able to discerne and cut off their right hand of power that they should not reforme what is amisse in religion for if the most soueraigne care of pietie and religion do properlie belong to the Prince then the Counsellers of state the most honorable Ministers vnder the Prince can not be excluded And therefore the Apostle in the place recited maketh not mention only of Kings but also of all that are in authoritie vnder them This also hath beene the auncient practise of this land Eleutherius aduiseth King Lucius with the Councell of his realme out of the scriptures to take a lawe to rule his people by The Statute of Praemunire made against prouisions and presentments of Bishoprickes and other benefices from the Pope was enacted by King Edward the third by the assent only of the great men of his Councell and Nobilitie and of the comminaltie without the Spirituall Lords The like Act was made vnder Richard 2. that all they which procured such presentations from Rome or any excommunications from thence in those causes should be banished to the which acte the great men only of the temporaltie without the Cleargie gaue their assent Yea of late in Queene Maries raigne the greatest friend to the Pope that euer he had in England the Prince aduised most like by her Counsell did of her owne authoritie send certaine articles concerning religious matters as reteining of ceremonies vsing of processions manner of baptizing admitting to orders and such like to the Bishop of London presently to be put in execution Yea this discourser soone forgetting what he had said confesseth whose chiefe care speaking of the honorable Counsell must be in taking order for such causes meaning of religion p. 49. l. 14. then as they may receiue direction from the spirituall state which we denie not so the correction and administration belongeth vnto them Thus as a man
whole disordred crue calleth those assertions hereticall and traiterous yea those wicked Popish Iudasâ—â—ed Diuines at Salamanca in Spaine resolued vpon these diuellish conclusions That they sinned mortally which aided the English in Ireland that it was a meritorious act to assist Tyrone that the Catholikes in Ireland which did fight against the Queene were by no construction Rebels Beside these villanous positions which no estate in the world could endure the Iebusites and Masse Priests practises haue been most odious against the life of our Soueraigne the treasons are confessed by the secular Priests themselues Therefore if the state of France vpon one attempt of Iohn Chastel against the King of France suborned by the Iesuites expelled the whole order greater cause hath the state of England hauing experience of many wicked plots deuised and practised both by the secular and irregular Masse Priests to exile the whole societie of both to make their returne into the land of treason Haue not these miscreants now great cause to complaine of persecution and to glorie of such filthie martyrdome I say vnto them with Augustine against the Donatists Recte haec à vobis dicerentur quaerentibus martyrum gloriam si haberetis martyrum causam These things were well alleaged of you that seeke the glorie of Martyrs if you had the cause of Martyrs 2. Nay rather these vngodly and seditious practisers by their impietie obstinacie idolatrie doe persecute the state then are persecuted of the state as Augustine saith Grauius Saram ancilla per superbiam persecuta est quam eam Sara per debitam disciplinam The bondmaid did more persecute Sara by her obstinacie then Sara did her by due discipline and seueritie 3. Yea these froward persons that haue been so often by proclamation forewarned to be packing whereas the law is a sufficient monition it selfe and diuers of them whereas they had deserued death by the law were but exiled and banished as 21. at one time and 31. at another aduenturing notwithstanding to enter the land whether more of a superstitious minde to peruert soules or of an ambitious desire to gaine a kingdome to the Popes seignorie it is hard to say or which is more like of a treacherous resolution to destroy both and so rushing vpon the pikes are accessary to their owne death and cause of their trouble themselues Protestants in the late daies of persecution could not obtaine that fauour to be banished neither were they suffered to depart but Ports and Hauens were laid to keepe them in But this Seminarie broode may be gone if they will the passages are open for them and yet they will remaine among vs to their owne perill Wherefore we may here say againe vnto them as Augustine to the Donatists Patent â—ortae exire non vultis quam persecutionem paâ—â—â—ini nisi à vobis diligit vos persecutor vester persequitur vos furor vester ille vt fugiatis petit iste vt pereatis impellit The gates are wide open and ye will not goe out what persecution suffer you but from your selues your persecutor loueth you your owne furie persecuteth you he desireth you would be packing this forceth you to your owne perishing Wherefore it is euident that these clamorous mates suffer no persecution but punishment for their euill demerits and they suffer most iustly that no amends is requisite in this case vnlesse it be by the like But if they would be exempted from the daunger of the Princes lawes let them follow the Apostles counsell Wilt thou be without feare of the Prince doe well Rom. 13.3 And let them doe as Ambrose saith to the Emperour Ego in consistoria nisi pro te stare non didici extra palatium certare non possum qui palatij secreta nec quaero nec noui I haue learned not to stand in the imperiall consistorie but for thee neither can I striue in the Princes palace which neither know the secrets thereof nor desire So let them neither striue against the authoritie of Princes nor presse to know and knowing to bewray their secrets We desire not their companie neither haue neede of their phisicke And as Pausanias answered a Physition that said all was well with him Because saith he I vse not you for my Physition So I make no doubt but all would be well with vs if such Italianated Physitions would be packing The fourth motiue 1. You vowed it in Baptisme your promise to God to his Church to your countrie is to be performed 2. Many or most of you being of age and discretion in the time of Queene Mary haue practised and professed it 3. So many of your noble companie as are admitted to the honourable order of the Garter haue sworne it 4. You are all sworne Councellors to our Queene which by title of inheritance and at her coronation by the oath and fidelitie of a Christian Prince hath obliged her selfe to maintaine it c. The Remoue 1. They which were baptized vnder the Popish religion were baptized in the name of the Trinitie not into the name of the Pope they were entred into the profession of the Christian faith not of the Popish religion for then by this reason hee that is baptized by an heretike were bound to maintaine his heresie if baptisme in Poperie were a bond to professe that superstitious phantasie Wee denie not but that true Baptisme in substance is giuen in the Romane synagogue but that neither proueth it to be the true Church nor those baptized among them to be obliged to their religion For though we confesse with the Apostle that there is one Lord one faith one Baptisme yet are not these onely professed and had in the Church but onely fruitfully and truly professed in the Church In the which alone as Augustine saith God is not worshipped but in the which alone God is truly worshipped in the which alone faith is not kept but in the which alone faith with charitie is kept Nec in qua sola vnus baptismus habetur sed in qua sola vnus baptismus salubriter habetur Neither in the which alone is this one baptisme had but in which alone baptisme is holesomely had And this is the cause why we iterate not Baptisme giuen in Poperie because it was ministred in the name of Christ and so bindeth to the true Christian profession not to the Romane separation And therefore we say not to vse Augustines words Vt cum ad nos veneritis alterum accipiatis sed vt eum qui apud vos iam erat vtiliter accipiatis That when ye come to vs you should receiue another baptisme but that which they had with you they should hold it with profit He seemeth then erroniously to thinke that Baptisme and the Church cannot be separated that because wee renounce not Baptisme ministred in the Popish Church wee are bound together with their
The greatest crakers are not the best fighters nor the lowdest noyse sheweth not the best cause And as they haue sped hitherto the like successe let them looke for hereafter The sixt Motiue I will prooue the religion I defend to be conformable to the present forcible lawes of England established by our Queene Elizabeth c. I vndertake to prooue directly by the Parliament lawes and proceedings of Queene Elizabeth that their religion is false that we defend true c. The Remoue If this man were not past all shame hee would neuer haue been so audacious as to haue vttered this vntruth for it is a fiction without all colour he might as well haue told vs of the man in the Moone and the Sunneshine at midnight and as soone might he haue proued it as that which here he saith He goeth on and telleth vs he will proue by the proceedings of Queene Elizabeth that Christ is reallie present in the Sacrament of the altar As though the Church of England and all Protestants doe not hold Christs bodie to be reallie that is verilie and truly present to the faith of the worthy receiuer but if by reallie he vnderstand carnally present it is directly contrarie to the 28. article of religion which in direct words saith that transubstantiation is repugnant to the plaine words of Scripture and further addeth that the body of Christ is onely eaten after a spirituall and heauenly manner and the meane whereby it is eaten is faith He will proue that Saints and Angels are to be reuerenced and prayed vnto A reuerence who denieth but to pray vnto them is contrarie to the 22. article Inuocation of Saints is a fond thing That there is a Purgatorie which is contrarie to the 22. article the Romish doctrine concerning purgatory is vainly inuented That prayer almes and other good deedes are auaileable for the faithfull soules departed contrarie to article 31. that the sacrifices of Masses c. for the quicke and dead are blasphemous fables that onely faith iustifieth not contrarie to article 11. that wee are iustified by faith onely is a most holesome doctrine He will prooue that good workes are meritorious before God contrarie to article 12. good workes cannot put away sinnes and endure the seueritie of Gods iudgement That there is an externall Priesthood and sacrifice in the Church of Christ contrarie to article 31. the sacrifices of the Masse wherein it was commonly said that the Priests did offer Christ c. were blasphemous fables and daungerous deceits that wee are not iustified by an imputatiue iustice but grace and iustice are inherent and internall things contrary to article 11. we are accounted righteous before God onely for the merite of our Lord and Sauiour Iesus Christ by faith and not for our owne workes or deseruings That there be seuen Sacraments in number Baptisme Confirmation Eucharist Penance extreame Vnction Orders and Matrimonie contrarie to article 25. There are two Sacraments ordained of Christ our Lord in the Gospell that is to say Baptisme and the Supper of the Lord those fiue commonly called Sacraments that is to say Confirmation Penance Orders Matrimonie and extreame Vnction are not to be accounted for Sacraments of the Gospell These articles were first agreed vpon by the whole Conuocation of the Clergie of this land and put foorth by the Queenes authoritie anno 1562. and againe approued and allowed by the assent and consent of her Maiestie and subscribed vnto by the whole Clergie assembled in the Conuocation anno 1571. and established by act of Parliament anno 13. Elizab. c. 12. as may appeare by diuers branches of that act whereby they are punishable which refuse to giue assent to the said articles or doe teach any thing repugnant or contrarie vnto them Notwithstanding all this this shamelesse man blusheth not to tell vs that these his erroneous opinions directlie contrarie to the very expresse words of the said articles are conformable to the present forceable lawes and the proceedings of Queene Elizabeth Thus these fellowes would make vs beleeue that the blacke crow is white and that the Moone is made of greene cheese as the saying is or they might as well tell vs with Democritus that the Moone hath hils and dales with Metrodorus that the Sunne is made of stone with Philolaus of glasse with Epicurus of the earth with Heraclides that the earth moueth round as the wheele vpon the axletree with Philolaus that it is whirled about as the Sunne and Moone or what else he may tell vs that is most fabulous and incredible as well as this that the Romish religion is agreeable to the lawes in force in the Church of England As he is found tripping here so I trust his credit shall be in the rest Ambrose sayth Nerui sunt quidam artus sapientiae non temere credere It is as the sinewes and ioynts of wisdome not rashlie to giue credit And as Demosthenes was wont to say that the best preseruatiue against Tyrants was not to trust them so is it against liers not to beleeue them The 7. Motiue What reason should mooue me then very yong in yeares borne of parents conformable to the time in and vnder the Protestant Regiment of Queene Elizabeth brought vp in that Vniuersitie and other places which were alwayes least fauouring of that beleefe c. to be of a different and contrarie opinion when if I would haue bene of the same profession I might haue bene regarded as others of my condition The remooue The reason here vsed may be thus framed That is likely to be the right faith which a man leauing all possibilitie of preferment cleaueth vnto But so hath this man done in embracing the popish profession Ergo c. First if the proposition were true this argument might be retorted vpon them for in the late dayes of persecution in England many zealous Protestants did not onely forsake all expectation of worldly preferment but did willinglie forgoe their life for the truth sake and endured more for their conscience only then euer did any Papist therefore if he haue reasoned well for Poperie he hath reasoned better for Protestancie that it is in the right beliefe 2 Other reasons may be alleaged why many depart from the truth euen where they may liue with good conditions beside a conscience of religion As an ambitious desire of prefermēt caused some to start aside as is euidēt in the examples of Theobutes Valentinus Nouatus Marcion Montanus who for the thirstie desire to be made Bishops which they could not obtayne fell into heresie Some of a couetous greedie mind haue become singular thinking thereby to grow rich Such an one was Paulus Samosatenus Ex sacrilegijs ad summas diuitias peruenit By sacrilege he came to great riches So Cypriane testifieth of Nouatus Spoliati ab eo pupilli fraudatae viduae c. He robbed
orphanes and defrauded widowes as the Gospell witnesseth of the Pharisees that they deuoured widowes houses vnder colour of long prayer Some are possessed with a spirit of phrenzie and deluded of Sathan as the Iewes perswaded by one Moyses did cast themselues headlong into the Sea The Donatists did throw themselues headlong into the fire and water and from the tops of hils Augustine sayth of them Diabolus vobis istum furorem inspirat Who els but the Deuill doth inspire this furious mind into you And hence it commeth that many are bewitched of Sathan and iustlie giuen ouer of God to be deceiued by him to beleeue lies because they receiued not the loue of the truth Secondly for the assumption 1. seeing this Ignatian brother confesseth he was very yong when first he forsooke the faith of the Gospell he had greater cause to suspect the rashnes of his shalow youth in receiuing then commend his stedfastnes in retayning his first error Hee should rather say with S. Paule When I was a child I spake as a child I vnderstood as a child I thought as a child Otherwise his stiffnes in continuing as he was may be rather imputed to an obstinate resolution then to a tender perswasion of his conscience Youth is soone infected and tender yeares easily tainted It seemeth to be true in him which Hierome sayth Difficulter eraditur quod rudes animi perbiberunt It is hardly recouered which simple minds haue once receiued And seeing he telleth vs he was borne of Protestant parents I would not haue him more wilfull then the heretike Eutyches who sayd Sicut accepi à progenitorib ita credidi in hac fide genitus sum c. in hac opto mori As I haue receiued of my progenitors so haue I beleeued in this faith I was borne in this faith I desire to die for seeing he was borne of right beleeuing parents and in the faith of the Gospell he can not pretend like cause of his persisting as obstinate Eutyches did I know not who his parents were but by his confession they were better resolued in religion then their sonne let him take heed then least Eudoxius speech inuerted be verified vpon him pater 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 filius 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 a godlie father a godlesse sonne 2 But if it might be lawfull for me a little to sound this yong fathers mind I could gesse at an other cause of his reuolt then his pretended conscience for it is well knowne that the Ignatian fatherhood whose cognisance as I am informed this sect-maister beareth is an order peramount in the Romish corporation and a passing gainfull trade These new vpstart friers are notable catchpoles and cosening by their owne Masse-priests report cunni-catchers and such as angle with long rods and fish for their owne aduantage They can tell vs of Frier Gerards golden web who could weaue or rather waue to himselfe from diuers persons aboue sixe thousand pound of Frier Hawoods pomp in riding in a coach and of his lordlike traine of Frier Garnets expenses after fiue hundred pounds by the yeare of Frier Oldcornes stable of eight geldings all at one time of Frier Holts large offer of pensions of Frier Walpoles crownes of Frier Gerards Church-stuffe valued at two hundred marks of a vestment giuen him of needleworke esteemed at an hundred marks May we not now say vnto them as Apollonius of Priscilla and Maximilla Dic mihi prophetae vestib gemmis ornantur propheta tabula ludit tesseris Do prophets glitter in rich vestures and pretious stones Do prophets play at tables and dice But such are these iollie fellowes ietting vp and downe in silks and veluets with iewels rings and chaines of gold and it is very like they do sport themselues also both aboue and vnder booâ—d at their pleasure And as they are nimble fingred gentlemen to tell money so they haue a speciall facultie in bestowing of Legacies Frier Gerard being put in trust for the disposing of 3000. pound and more could very handsomely coÌ„uey it into his owne purse An other lay brother of that order got from a rich man lying sicke at Valledolid in Spaine a great summe of gold which he had purposed to haue giuen to the poore Englishmen which liued there And herein they do well reuiue the memorie of the heretike Dioscorus of whom Ischyrion complayned that whereas the Emperor had decreed to send corne for the reliefe of the parts of Lybia he would not suffer it to be transported but sold it in time of dearth at great prices and how Peristeriae testamentum violauit he violated the testament of Peristeria and the legacies giuen to the Monasteries he bestowed vpon bawdes and harlots This great wealth pomp and credit of the Ignatians considered who are regarded as we were told before of the most rich and puissant princes of the world might it not be a great allurement to this aspiring springall to associate himselfe vnto that companie and to thrust his sickle into their haruest for if they that gleane after them which are but their factors and dispensators can fill their hands that they sticke not to hazard twentie nobles at once at play the reapers that go before them must needs make a better match they come to the golden haruest as Stratocles and Democlidas profanely called the iudgemeÌ„t seate And thus much also of this Section THE SEVENTH SECTION OF THE Authors particular defence to her Maiestie I Do not purpose to examine all the Libellers idle speeches vaine repetitions and vnsauerie words if I should make answere to euerie thing and spend time to note euery foolish pranke he playeth I should as the wise man sayth be like him I will therefore make choice of his principall stuffe and leaue the rest Not as Hierome sayth Quia difficile sit eum vincere sed ne respondendo dignus fieret qui vinceretur as though it were an hard matter for him euery where to be vanquished but least he should be thought worthie to be answered The first Apologie or defence 1 BEginning with my Catholike Christened annoynted and crowned Queene Elizabeth to whom I wish as much spirituall benediction and terrene honor as any subiect may to his temporall Soueraigne c. 2 Whereof she hath vowed defence by the vow of a Christian in baptisme c. by the oath and fidelitie of a Christian Catholike annointed at her coronation c. for defence whereof the glorie of the stile of her title was first graunted c. 3 Whereof she reteyneth in princely person some reuerent notes as the vsing of the signe of the crosse vpon sodaine and strange accidents c. not preuaricating in the maine point of the reall presence c. 4 I will teach nothing contrarie to her princely dignitie and prerogatiues nothing repugnant to her owne trulie interpreted proceedings The
diuers of those auncient Kings became Monks yet neither was the Monasticall life so farre out of square as now it is they made it not a cloake of idlenes and filthie liuing a nurserie of idolatrie and grosse superstitions but they desired that life as fittest for contemplation and free frō the encumbrances of the world Diuers of the heathen Emperors left the Imperiall administration and betooke thēselues to priuate contemplation as Dioclesian Maximinian Lanquet ann Christ. 307. Neither doth this one opinion of the excellencie of Monasticall life shew them to be resolute Papists for it followeth not because they were Monks that consequentlie they held transubstantiation worship of images and the more grosse points of the Romish Catechisme 3 He shall not be able to proue the tenth part of that great number of 180. Kings either to haue themselues professed the now Romane religion or by lawes to haue prescribed the same to others some instances I will produce In King Lucius dayes not the Pope but the King was Gods vicar in his kingdome and it was his part to gather the people together to the law of Christ as Eleutherius Bishop of Rome testifieth in his epistle Cedde and Colman dissented from the Church of Rome about the celebration of Easter Wilfride about the same time confesseth that Images were inuented of the Deuill which all men that beleeue in Christ sayth he ought of necessitie to forsake and detest King Alfred or Alured translated the Psalter into English and he was instructed by Ioannes Scotus who writ a booke de corpore sanguine Christi which was condemned by the Pope in the Synod Vercellens being of Bertrams opinion against the corporall presence which fansie was not as yet receiued in the Church as is apparant by the sermon of Elfricus against transubstantiation In King Edward Athelstane and King Edmunds time the Prince had power to constitute ecclesiasticall lawes and to prescribe rules and orders for ecclesiasticall persons as may appeare by diuers of their lawes In King Edgars time Priests mariage was lawfull which began then to be restrayned Many lawes and acts haue passed since in open Parliament to restraine the iurisdiction of the Bishop of Rome to inhibite the purchasing of prouisoes frō thence arrests processes excommunications vnder paine of exile imprisonment forfeiture of goods and that not without expresse consent of the Clergie See Richard 2. ann 16. cap. 5. These then which allowed not the worship of images beleeued not transubstantiation gaue the Prince authoritie in spirituall causes approued the mariage of Ministers and the translation of the scriptures into the vulgar tongue restrayned the authoritie of the Romane Bishop may worthilie doubted of whether they were Papists 4 King Henry was so farre from repenting his proceedings against the vsurped Romane iurisdiction that if God had spared him life he intended a thorough reformation of Religion as was easilie to be seene both by his resolution for religion vttered not long before his death to Monsieur de Annebault the French Embassador and his answere made nearer to his death to Bruno Embassador to the Duke of Saxonie that he would take his part against the Emperour if the quarell were for religion 5 More vntrue it is that our late Soueraigne in the late dayes of persecution professed that religion with such deuotion The cruell and vnnaturall dealing toward her highnes then is a sufficient argument to conuince this large reporter of a great vntruth how she was sent for by commission in great extremitie of sicknes to be brought aliue or dead committed without cause to the Tower her seruants remoued from her straitlie examined her owne seruants restrayned to bring her diet denied the libertie of the Tower a strait watch kept round about her in danger to be murdered in continuall feare of her life her death by Winchesters platforme intended which by Gods prouidence she escaped Adde hereunto Stories desperate speech vttered in the Parliament house that he was not a little grieued with his fellow Papists for that they laboured onely about the young and little sprigs and twigs while they should haue striken at the roote c. All this euidentlie bewrayeth what opinion they had of her Maiesties resolution in religion and what she had of theirs In the meane time their cruell proceedings are laid open who if it were as this Coniecturer sayth would so persecute an innocent Ladie whom they commend for her deuotion 6.1 That euidence which he alleadgeth from M. Fox his mouth out of the Register booke of the Guildhall in London conteineth not the precise forme of the Princes oath to be taken at the Coronation which before I haue recited out of Magna charta but certaine monitions and instructions concerning the dutie of the King 2. He vseth great fraud in setting downe the words both inuerting the order and leauing out what he thinketh good as that the King ought to loue and obserue Gods commaundements then must he be an enemie to idolatrie and to the doctrines and commaundements of men such as many be obserued in the Romane Church Beside he sayth to maintaine holie Church whereas the words are to maintaine and gouerne the holie Church c. but they can not endure that Kings should rule and gouerne the Church 3. For the King to take his oath vpon the Euangelists and blessed reliques of Saints it sheweth not that the King did worship those reliques or sweare by them though he lay his hand vpon them no more then he doth sweare by the booke that putteth his hand vpon it or Abrahams seruant by his maisters thigh when he sware vnto him or Iacob by the heape of stones ouer the which he tooke his oath But as Ambrose well sayth Christianus imperator aram solius Christi didicit honorare A Christian Emperour hath onely learned to honor Christs altare And so Christian Princes haue learned to giue all religious honor to Christ and not to impart it to his seruants to make them sharers with their Maister Thus hath this sophisticall dialogist fayled as well in the probation of the assumption as in his enlarging of the proposition But whatsoeuer her Maiesties predecessors were she was not bound where they wandred out of the way to erre in their steps Iosias of idolatrous parents both father and grandfather was himselfe a religious Prince and a true worshipper of God Heathen stories will tell vs that noble Pericles came of an euill race Pompeius the great of despised Strabo Vlysses Aesculapius famous men of lewd parents The graue Poet also doth insinuate as much 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 The sonne excels in vertues fame the parent euill of whome he came As of euill parents vertuous children may descend so out of superstitious antiquitie religious posteritie may issue and florish And as Ambrose well answered the obiection of Symmachus the Pagane Maiorum ritus
censured first this is the condition of warre it spareth none Secondly this notwithstanding the Citie after his death was taken Thirdly the Pope was forced afterward to absolue and release whom before he had cursed 8. The reason why so many Kings and Regents of the world preuailed not in their attempts and endeuours against the Sea of Rome is euident because they had before giuen their power and authoritie vnto the beast with one consent Reuel 17.13 and therefore Gods iustice required that they should be beaten with their owne rod and suffer vnder that power which another by their authoritie first vsurped But the time shall come that the same Kings and Nations which before gaue their kingdome to the beast shall hate the whore and make her desolate and naked Reuel 17.17 But concerning the Indians if the Spanish tyranny had not preuailed more then Popish subtiltie and cruell violence obtained more then Monkish conscience they were like to haue had a cold suite of it and a simple haruest 9. Iulian was punished for Apostasie from the faith not for denying fealtie to the Pope and Valens iudged for his Arrian heresie not for gainsaying the Papall hierarchie The Grecians and Armenians were subdued to the Turkes not for resisting the iurisdiction of the Pope but for other graue and waightie causes which may be alleaged first because the Empire being diuided anno 101. when Leo the 3. proclaimed Charles the great Emperour of Rome was thereby weakened and so by little and little decayed till at the last it became a pray to the Turke The Pope then himselfe was the first occasion of this iudgement which befell them Secondly in that the Greekes began to haue small respect to the Romane Bishop the Pope himself was the cause for that he first forsooke the Greek Empire erecting another in the West as the author of the tripartite worke saith Schisma hoc fecit partitio imperij c. The partition of the Empire made this schisme because the Empire that was but one was made two Et hinc probabile est quod Graeci cum suo domino coeperunt rebellare ecclesiae Romanae And hence it was that the Greekes with their Lord began to rebell against the Romane Church The Pope therefore may for this thanke himselfe Thirdly but the greatest cause of all this diuision of the Empire and so consequently the confusion thereof was the idolatrie of the Greekes who in a generall Councel held at Nice confirmed and allowed the adoration of images about the time of Adrian the 1. by whose counsell Irene the Empresse tooke vp the bodie of Constantine her husband and burned it and cast the ashes into the sea because they disanulled images Immediatly vpon this inhumane fact of Irene and for their idolatrie followed the diuision of the Empire by Leo the 3. the next successor of this Adrian And for the same cause namely their idolatrie was the Citie of Constantinople surprized and sacked of the Turkes for after the Citie was taken the great Turke caused the image of the Crucifixe which was set vp in the great Church of Sophia to be taken downe and writing this superscription ouer the head Hic est Christianorum Deus This is the God of the Christians made it with sound of Trumpet to bee caried round about the Campe and euery man to spit at it ex Ioann Ram. lib. 2. rerum Turcicar This is more like to be the cause of the destruction of that citie Fourthly and as God hath punished the East Churches for their backsliding so must idolatrous Rome looke to haue her part which both in manners and doctrine is as corrupt as euer was the Greeke Church Many yeeres since it was said Latini licet ad ea quae sunt fidei verius adhaereant deo quam Graeci tamen quoad mores multo pluribus sceleribus implicati sunt The Latines although in matters of faith they cleaue more truly to God yet are in manners more corrupt But now the church of Rome is notoriously knowne both in faith and manners to bee much worse If the Greekes were iudged of God for failing in one the Latines cannot escape that come short in both 10. Lastly he telleth vs that in the Primitiue Church before Constantine almost an hundred Pagane Emperours either truly elected or reputed persecuted it and all them excepting tenne or eleuen died miserably when the persecuted Popes put to death by them came not to the third part of that number pag. 69. lin 3 4. c. 1. Vntrue it is that there were before Constantine almost 100. Pagane Emperours there were not many aboue halfe that number 2. Neither were then the Bishops of Rome called Popes by a peculiar stile as now they are 3. This maketh nothing for the present Papall Hierarchie for the Bishops of Rome are declined and fallen away from the faith doctrine of those first persecuted Bishops Martyrs 4. Whereas I confesse there was then great difference between the imperiall ecclesiasticall state both in the short raigne miserable end of the one the long continuance glorious death of the other the case is now altered for since the time of Gregorie the 1. when the Bishops of Rome began to fall away from the true faith the Popes both for their wretched end and short raigne may cōpare with either the Imperiall or any Episcopall seate and farre exceed them For the first Anastasius voided his entrals into the draught Siluerius died in banishment Vigilius drawne vp and downe by the neck in the streetes at Constantinople Sabinianus died being frighted in the night Agathon that condemned Ministers mariage died of the plague Constantin 2. condemned to prison and his eyes put out Leo. 3. cast from his horse and beaten to death Stephanus 8. wounded in a tumult and so battered that he neuer would shew himselfe afterward abroade Iohn 13. slaine in adulterie Bonifacius 7. died of an apoplexie his bodie was drawne through the streetes with ropes and striken through with speares Siluester 2. slaine of the Deuill being a Necromancer Benedictus 9. suffocated by the Deuill Lucius 2. beaten with stones to death Adrianus 4. choaked with a flie Innocentius 4 sodainely died in his bed Nicholaus 3. died sodainely and speechlesse Clement 6. died sodainely of an aposteme Iohn 15. had his eyes put out and died of the stinch of the prison Now sir what haue you gained by obiecting the miserable end of the Pagane Emperours I thinke your Popes may therein compare with them more wretched and desperate ends shall we not finde of any Princes or Prelates then of prophane Popes For shortnes of raigne Popes goe beyond all regents either temporall or ecclesiasticall that euer were in the world not to speake of the regiment of two or three yeares and not aboue of which sort many Popes may be numbred how many of them attayned not to a yeare how many not
to many moneths yea not to many dayes Leo 2. Benedict 2. did not pope it aboue tenne moneths Benedict 10. nine moneths as many Benedict 11. Alexander 5. eight moneths Christophor 1. Lando 1. seauen moneths Leo 6. as many Celestinus 2. sixe moneths Ioannes 19. fiue moneths Romanus 1. three moneths Benedict 5. Gregor 8.2 moneths Some of their Popedomes are reckoned by dayes as Siluester 3 was Pope but 49. dayes Adrianus 5. fortie dayes Pius 3.27 dayes Bonifacius 6.25 dayes Damasus 2.23 dayes likewise Marcellus 2. Sosimus 2. twentie dayes Celestinus 4. eighteene dayes Stephanus the successor of Zacharias three daies And is not now this bragger ashamed to obiect the breuitie of the Imperiall dominion Concerning the number of Popes since the declining time of that Sea from Gregory 1. you shall finde for one Emperour two or three Popes There haue beene vnder Queene Elizabeths raigne not fewer then 8. or 9. Popes And because it may be answered that Princes do raigne by succession and so many come very young to the Crowne Popes enter by election and are aged when they are chosen let comparison be made betweene the Papacie and other Episcopal seas to the which also men of grauitie and yeares are elected you shall finde three Popes to one Bishop As to giue one instance for many in the Archiepiscopall Sea of Canterburie There haue been since Augustines time who was sent into England by Gregory 1. about ann 600. and odd onely 73. Archbishops But Popes since Gregory 1. there are numbred almost 200. for he was the 64. Bishop of Rome and there haue beene in the whole number 240 Bishops of that Sea or thereabout Wherefore as Ambrose well answered Symmachus who thus obiected Vnde rectius quam documentis rerum secundarum cognitio venit numinis Whence better may the presence of the Gods be knowne then by prosperitie saith Ambrose Odi bimestres Imperatores terminos regum cum exordijs coniunctos I like not two-moneth Emperours and raignes ending and beginning together Many such two-moneth Popes may be produced and popping aside as soone as they are pooping Such infelicitie of the head doth giue no great cause to those Popes-creatures to brag of their prosperitie So that as Leosthenes said of Alexanders armie their Captaine being dead that it was like to blind Cyclops that groped with his hands hauing lost his ere so may the papall Hierarchie be resembled so often changing their head and as one said to Dionysius that a tyrannie was a faire sepulcher such is the Popedome as a pompous and garnished sepulcher wherein the Popes take their ease tyrannizing ouer the Church for their owne aduantage but in respect of any profitable worke in Christs Church they are as mued and closed vp in a sepulcher The third Demonstration THis Popes Chronicler goeth forward and telleth vs of diuers Kings and Emperours that haue been punished and some of them deposed from their Kingdomes for resisting the Sea of Rome as the two Frecards of Scotland Sanetius King of Portugall Bolislaus King of Polonia King Phillip of Fraunce the Empire translated for disobedience from the French to Otho the 3. Henry the 4. Frederike the 2. Otho the 4. Lodouike the 4. deposed The East Empire taken of the Turke Alibrettus King of Nauarre the two Henries of Burbon deposed and depriued pag. 69.70 I will examine these examples in order The Remonstration 1 FRequard the younger was striken of God with a painefull disease whereof he dyed not for his disobedience to the Pope but for his wicked life for he killed his wife and defloured his daughters and was therefore excluded from the communion of Christians his nobles were purposed to haue taken punishment of him but were stayed by Colmannus who told them that Gods vengeance was at hand and not long after he was wounded by a Wolfe in hunting and thereby fell into a strange disease and so died Thus Bucanane reporteth who is falsified to say that all this fell vpon him for his disobedience to Rome which beside that there is no such mention in the historie was not like seeing Colman himselfe dissented from the Church of Rome about the celebration of Easter as hath been before shewed and so might be touched himselfe for his disobedience to that Sea 2 Frequard the fiâ—st was indeede disgraded of his Lords and cast into prison and for sorrow slew himselfe yet this hapned not for any attempts against the Pope but as Bucanane sayth because he maintained factions amongst the nobilitie and the Pelagian heresie and the contempt of baptisme were obiected against him and as others write this iudgement befell him for his crueltie and negligence in the affaires of the common-wealth 3 If it be Sanctius the first whom he meaneth for diuers Kings of Portugall were of that name he was with the consent of Honorius the third deposed and the gouernment committed to one Alphonsus not for disobedience to the Pope sed propter ignauiam for his slothfulnes in the administration of the kingdome 4 Bolislaus being rebuked for adulterie of Stanislaus Bishop of Graccouia slue him and was depriued therefore of the Crowne by the Pope and fell into madnes Munster sheweth this to be the cause not his resisting of the Pope He might as well say that Pompilius a King also of Polonia who was deuoured of Mice with his wife and children which came from the bodies of those whom he had commaunded vniustlie to be slaine was iudged thus of God for his resistance to the Pope 5 Whatsoeuer befell Phillip of France is not to be imputed to any offence committed against the Pope but to his adulterous life who repudiating his first wife Bertha by whom he had children coupled to him Bertradam the wife of Iulio but howsoeuer it fared with him in the meane time Vrbane for his disloyaltie to Princes escaped not vnpunished who for feare of his enemies hid himselfe two yeares in the house of Peter Leo and so dyed But why omitted he to make mention of an other Phillip of France in the time of Boniface the 8. who more resisted the Popes authoritie then euer any King of France did he defeated the Pope of bestowing ecclesiastical dignities forbad any gold or siluer to be exported out of the land to the Pope who also thus wrote vnto the Pope To Boniface bearing himselfe for chiefe pastor little health or none Let thy foolishnes know that in no temporall things we are subiect to no man Was Phillip punished for being thus bold with the Pope No but Boniface himselfe smarted for his contempt of Kings for he was taken prisoner by King Phillips souldiers robbed of all his treasure forced to ride vpon an vnbroken colt with his face to the horse taile almost famished for meate if he had not been relieued by the almes of the towne of Anragum where he was and returning
behauiour against King Henry his father who finding his sonne Iohn to be numbred amongst his enemies in a certaine schedule exhibited to him thereupon sickned with griefe and gaue his sonnes Gods curse and his which he would neuer release till his dying day 7. King Henry the third was not punished with ciuill warres for opposing himselfe against the Pope but rather for being too much ruled by him for after that in a Parliament held at Oxford in the 42. yeare of his raigne he had condescended to certaine auncient lawes and ordinances whereunto he had before refused to yeeld and for conseruation whereof those douzen peeres which hee speaketh of were ordained the King Ann. 44. procured an absolution of his oath from Rome whereby he had before obliged himselfe to maintaine the said auncient lawes whereupon followed those intestine warres betweene the King and his Nobles in the which the King and his sonnes were taken This contention then was caused not for the Kings disobedience to the Pope but his too great confidence in the Popes authoritie to absolue him from his oath to abrogate the lawes enacted 8. True it is that many miseries and calamities as ciuill warre famine strange diseases happened vnder the raigne of Edward the second and he himselfe at the last lost first his Crowne and then his life but as vntrue it is that these troubles fell vpon him for medling too farre against the See of Rome It is most euident in histories that he was deposed for misgouernment following the counsell of couetous cruell and wicked persons Pierce Gaueston and the two Spencers in whose quarell he in a short space put to death 22. of the greatest men in the realme 9. The like cause is shewed in histories of the great troubles that happened betweene Richard the second and his Nobles and of the great miserie he fell into namely his negligent administration of the commonwealth the intolerable exactions of his officers his crueltie in causing his owne Vncle Thomas of Woodstock and other Nobles to be cruellie put to death for these and the like causes he was deposed and depriued of his Crowne and regall dignitie It was not then his medling in ecclesiasticall iurisdiction as this wisard calculateth but his loose vniust and carelesse gouernment that wrought him this wo. And if it were enacted in this Kings time that Vrbane the Pope should be acknowledged for head of the Church as is here affirmed small reason there was in this discourser to exemplifie this King for his disobedience to the See of Rome which is the scope of all this senselesse section 10. King Henry prospered well in all his affaires after he tooke vpon him to be the supreme gouernor in Ecclesiasticall matters so did his sonne vertuous King Edward the 6. so did not Queene Mary nothing had good successe almost that she enterprised whose raigne was shortest of all her predecessors vnlesse it were vsurping Richard He therefore speaketh vntrulie and vncharitablie that King Edward was not vniustlie punished in his fathers fault for neither had his father of famous memorie faulted herein nor himselfe punished for the same but blessed of God with a godlie raigne and an happie end And thus hath this fabulous chronicler held vs with a long tale feeding the reader with his owne fansies for among all these examples by him produced he hath not verified his coniecture in any one of them that they were punished of God for resisting the papall iurisdiction But the contrarie may easily be shewed that no Kings had worse successe then they which were deuoted to the papall vsurped authoritie and none better then they which impugned the same and for the proofe hereof I will not go farre from home And first concerning the euill hap of Princes made slaues to the Pope other countries yeeld plentifull choice of examples as of Ladislaus King of Bohemia a great enemie to the doctrine of Iohn Husse who died sodainely of the Pestilence Another Ladislaus much about that time King of Polonia at the incitement of Eugenius the 4 brake truce made with Amurathes the great Turke was miserablie slaine Rodolphus rebelled against the Emperour Henry the 4 being set vp against him by Gregory the seauenth and was slaine in battaile The strange ends and bloudie deaths of Henry the second Charles the ninth Henry the third Kings of Fraunce great patrones of popish religion are very well known the first slaine with a shiuer of a speare as he iusted against Montgomery the second dyed of bleeding at the eares and nose and diuers other parts the third was murdered by a Frier But leauing to make mention of forraine stories this one Island of Britannie doth afford sufficient supplie who was more deuoted vnto the Pope and Popes religion before the Conquest then Offa and Edgar and yet none were more punished in their posteritie King Offa first gaue the Peter-pence to Rome he founded the Abbey of Bath and of S. Albons and was himselfe at the length shorne a Monke he most vniustly caused Ethelbert King of East-Angles who gentlie came vnto him mistrusting nothing to be beheaded But what befell the posteritie of this Offa not one of them prospered Eg fredus raigned but foure moneths the rest that succeeded were either slaine or expulsed Kenulphus Kenelmus Ceolwulphus Bernulphus Ludecanus Withlacus of the which Ceolwolfus was banished all the rest were slaine the last two Kings of Offa his race were Berthulfus and Burdredus which were expulsed of the Danes and so the Kingdome of Mercia was extinguished This Offa had a daughter called Ethelburga which was maried to Brithicus King of West-Saxons which first poisoned her husband then she fled into France and became Abbesse of a certaine Monasterie from whence for committing adulterie with a Monke she was expelled and ended her dayes in pouertie and miserie And such successe had Offa his posteritie Edgar was a great friend to the Pope and one of the greatest Patrones of Monkerie he restored and new founded 47. Monasteries but it fared full euill with his posteritie his base sonne Edward was slaine by the counsaile of his step-mother Queene Alfrede his other sonne Ethelred was expelled his Kingdome by Swanus the Dane and constrained to liue in exile in Normandie his sonne Edmund surnamed Ironside was forced to deuide his Kingdome with Canutus the Dane Since the Conquest Richard the first was much addicted to the Church of Rome and the Ministers thereof he tooke his scrip and staffe at Canturburie to go in pilgrimage to Ierusalem to recouer the holie land as they called it from the Infidels and he betooke the regiment of his Kingdome to William Longshamp Bishop of Ely the Popes Legate In Palestina he fought many battailes prosperouslie yet returning home he was taken captiue by the Duke of Austria and sent to the Emperour paying for his raunsome an hundred thousand
pound at the last after he had raigned not many yeares nine and nine moneths he died of the stroke of a poysoned quarrell shot at him at the besieging of the Castle of Chalne Richard the 2. was a great factor for Pope Vrban whom he decreed by act of Parliament to be obeyed as head of the Church yet was he an vnhappie Prince in all his proceedings and at length was deposed and cruelly murdered in Pumfret Castle Henrie the 4. was a great agent for the Pope in persecuting of Christs members in the second yeere of whose raigne was made the statute ex officio wherein they are adiudged to be burned that should hold any thing contrarie to the determination of the Church by vertue of which statute many good men were put to death vnder the raigne of the three Henries one succeeding another But what followed the father and the sonne raigned not long not making much aboue 23. yeeres betweene them and Henrie the 6. holding on the same course against Christs members was deposed from his Crowne Richard the 3. much affecting and affected of the Popes ministers for whose sake the Archbishop of Yorke being Cardinall vndertooke to perswade the Queene to deliuer Richard Duke of Yorke to his vncle as a lambe into the lions mouth and preuailed therein his butcherly end is well knowne how his dead carcasse was caried naked behind a Pursiuant of Armes all be sprinkled with blood and mire and homely buried Queene Mary had both a short and an vnprosperous raigne she lost Calice deceiued in her childbirth left desolate and forsaken of King Phillip her husband before she died and ended her daies in griefe and sorrow But contrariwise as these Princes which yeelded themselues to be directed by the Pope were of all other most infortunate so those magnanimous Kings which maintained the libertie of the Crowne against the vsurped authoritie of the Bishop of Rome were prosperous in all their affaires Edward the 1. first made the statute of Mortmaine that no lands and possessions should be giuen to any religious house without the Kings licence the statute also of Premunire made against prouisions of Bishoprickes and other Benefices to bee purchased from Rome was then ordained King Edward the 3. also abridged and cut short the Popes iurisdiction prohibiting vnder great penalties that none should procure any such prouisions at Rome or prosecute any suites in the Popes Court the cognisance whereof appertained to the Kings Courts King Henrie the 7. would admit of no more Cardinals in England after he was rid of one King Henry the 8. abolished the Popes authoritie King Edward the 6. expelled the Masse and other Popish trumperie yet were all these victorious Kings Edward the 1. against the Welsh Edward the 3. against the French Henrie the 7. against that tyrant and vsurper Richard the 3. Henrie the 8. for his valiant battailes famous Edward the 6. in suppressing of Rebels and other enemies prosperous And concerning the raigne of our late noble Soueraigne Queene Elizabeth whom God in his mercie appointed to be a reformer of religion and a nourisher of his Church what Prince in the world I speake not of this age onely but of many hundred yeeres before can compare with her Maiesties time in any kind of outward blessing first in the yeeres of her life she went beyond al her progenitors Secondly in the length of her raigne she exceeded all but onely two Henrie the 3. and Edward the 3. Thirdly in peaceable gouernment for so many euen 44. yeeres none came neere her Fourthly in loue of the subiects at home Fiftly in honour and reputation among forraine Princes Sixtly in prosperous successe abroad in deliuerance from more then twentie conspiracies at home Queene Elizabeth had no peere Seuenthly adde hereunto the wealth of the kingdome Eightly the purenes of the coyne Ninthly but most of all the purenes of religion Tenthly the abundance of learned men such as no nation vnder heauen hath the like of graue Counsellers and Martiall Commaunders who can but confesse that in all these kindes the Gospell hath brought a rich blessing to this land And as Queene Elizabeth loued and liued in peace so she ended her daies in a good old age full of yeeres and which of all other may worthily be accounted the greatest blessing hath left the kingdom to a most worthie and noble successor a professor and protector of the same faith and religion our renowned King that now is by whose hands we doubt not but that the Lord will accomplish whatsoeuer he seeth needfull for his Church But because this Romish southsayer taketh vpon him to play the blind prophet What is like saith he to be the euent thereof hereafter I had rather others should write and shew their coniecture which I for reuerence to my Soueraigne will here omit And hereupon he hopeth that his prudent Princesse will imitate the examples of her noble predecessors Henrie the 1. and Henrie the 2. in recalling that which they did in their inconsiderate times c. pag. 79. Hereunto I briefly answere that his prognostication and exhortation are both alike they both shew a dreaming and phantasticall spirit His foolish hope we see is vaine and frustrate for her Maiestie left her happie raigne in the same faith wherein she began it and as she did nothing inconsiderately at her entrance but with great aduice so had she no cause to repent her in the end If her Maiesties predecessors were inconstant in pulling downe what before they had set vp she being appointed of God to be a wise builder was not therein to follow so simple a plot As is his hope and expectation such is his lying spirit of prophecying Indeed the Papists did promise themselues a great day at the next chaunge they did not mutter it in corners but clatter it in their vaine pāphlets Parsons made a booke of reformation against that time but blessed be God which hath disappointed their hope I nothing doubt but that righteous Abel shall offer still acceptable sacrifices vnto God in the Church of England when all hypocrites and Popish sacrificers shall hang downe their heads with Caine. Yea and I hold this to be no small miracle that God where such trouble was feared hath with such peace consent of harts and minds approbation of all good subiects acclamation and reioycing of the whole Church of God set the imperiall diademe vpon so godlie christian and vertuous a Prince his head such grace from God few expected all good men desired England I am sure hath not deserued yet God in his mercie hath granted So that we haue iust cause to say with the Prophet Dauid This is the Lords doing and it is maruailous in our eyes It is written of Sylla that after Italy was deliuered from the ciuill warres comming to Rome the first night hee could not sleepe for ioy But wee the Church and
people of England haue greater cause not one but many both nights and dayes to awake to giue thanks vnto God for our deliuerance from troubles not so much felt as feared And thus also I haue at length dispatched that tedious and friuolous section THE EIGHT SECTION HIS DEfense to the honorable Councell and all other men of Nobilitie THis Section being as the rest confusedlie shuffled vp and as a rude chaos tumbled together I will if I can bring it to some forme not vouchsafing an answere to all his idle words and vaine repetitions which are not to be regarded as Aristotle well answered a certaine brabler who sayd O Philosopher I am troublesome vnto you with my speech no sayth he for I marked thee not The first Defence SVppose ye might contend in politike gouernment with many c. let it be some might be admitted fellowes in armes c. yet to that which is most or onely materiall in this question and controuersie of learning religion c. are too wise to make so vnequall a comparison to balance your selues with so many Saints most holie learned professed Diuines and Bishops c. pag. 80. lin 12. The Answere 1 THeir honors are much beholding to this cunning Caruer that he will allow them in matters of policie and of martiall affaires to equalize those in the popish times employed in both but in learning and religion they must come farre short of popish Bishops c. 2 But herein also I doubt not for true religion and knowledge of God that our honorable Lords Nobles farre exceed most of that shauen crue for who knoweth not that in a popish Bishop learning and diuinitie is not of the greatest regard Was not the Bishop of Cauaillon a profound Clerke that said to the Merindolians that Iâ— was not requisite to saluation to vnderstand or expound the articles of faith for there were many Bishops Curates yea and Doctors of Diuinitie whom it would trouble to expound the Paternoster and the Creede Such another learned Prelate was the Bishop of Dunkelden in Scotland that said to Thomas Forret Martyr that it was too much to preach euery Sonday for in so doing you make the people thinke that we should preach likewise He said further I thanke God I neuer knew what the old and new Testament was whereof rose a prouerb in Scotland You are like the Bishop of Dunkelden that knew neither old nor new lawe Such religious and deuout Bishops were some other in Scotland much about that time which held that the Paternoster should be said to Saints whereupon it was vsed as a byword in Scotland To whom say you your Paternoster I appeale now to the indifferent Reader whether our learned Nobles of England may not be compared in true learning and sound diuinitie with such vnlearned popish Bishops But I pitie this poore mans case that could play the Orator no better then at the first dash to alienate their minds into whose bosome he sought to insinuate himselfe forgetting that rule of Ambrose Qui tractaet debet andientium considerare personas ne irrideatur prius quam audâ—atur He that treateth of any thing must consider to whom he speaketh least he be laughed at before he be harkned to for Like as they that drinke bitter potions do loath the very cups so they which accuse at the first win no grace with their heaâ—ers The second Defence NExt this bold lad braueth it out producing certaine examples of the hard haps of some Nobles among the Protestants as of the Lord Cromwell condemned by the law which he had prouided for others the Dukes of Somerset and Northumberland basely disgraced and put to death Robert Earle of Leicester miserablie died terrified with monstrous visions of Deuils Sir Frauncis Walsingham his miserable death despairing words filthie stinke of bodie basely buried in the night will be an eternall infamie against him The Answere 1 THe end of the Lord Cromwell was neither vnfortunate nor miserable making a vertuous and a godly end with confession of his sinnes and confidence in God and faithfull inuocation of his name he was attainted by Parliament misled and misinformed not condemned by any lawe of his owne making whome King Henry afterward wished to be aliue againe which he would not haue desired had he bene perswaded he was a traytor Thus wise Princes are sometime swayed with false reports and ouercome with flatterers and repent when it is too late But miserable indeede was the end of Bishop Fisher who was attainted by Parliament for practising with Elizabeth Barton called the holie mayd of Kent against the King who died in a bad cause giuing his life for the vsurped authoritie of the Pope against the lawfull calling of the King Such was the death of Sir Thomas Moore who dyed scoffingly and prophanely suffering for the like obstinacie and superstition How could he omit or forget these two notable examples of deserued miserie and obiect the much lamented case of that honorable Lord Cromwell dying in his innocencie 2 Concerning the death of the good Duke of Somerset it was no iudgement vpon him for his religion which as he had zealouslie maintained while he liued so therein he constantlie died But herein it might be that God chastised the ouersight of the Duke in condescending to the death of his brother the Lord Thomas Seymer wherein secretlie his owne ouerthrow was intended though he simply perceiued it not And again this is rather to be supposed a iudgement against that ambitious Duke of Northumberland who by his Machiauilian deuises cut off these two brothers the Kings Vncles to make a way for some of his to the Crowne as the euent of matters afterward shewed but he was ouertaken in his owne plots and suffered iustlie in the same place where the other good Duke by his meanes not two yeare before innocently ended his dayes 3 As for the Duke of Northumberland take him to your selfe for at his death he denyed the Gospell and in hope of fauour consented to the Popish religion and exhorted others to do the like whose recantation was presentlie published to the world Therefore let that Church challenge him in whose faith and communion he dyed his end full well declared that his religion was more for his owne aduantage then in conscience 4 That which is reported of the Earle of Leicester the credite thereof relying vpon this braggers bare word alleadging no author for it may with as great reason be by vs denyed as it is by him affirmed Yet admit it was so that he was in his sicknes troubled with fearefull visions that is not to be imputed to his religious profession but to his licentious conuersation wherein it is like enough he committed some things not beseeming a professor of the Gospell But he needed not to haue noted this if it were true as he saith for so strange a thing
as may witnesse that bloodie massacre of France and the continuall ciuill warres for many yeeres together wherein not so few Christian people as 100. thousand haue perished England thankes be to God hath no such flowers growing in her garden neither I trust euer shall Neither doe wee desire nay wee would not for all the kingdomes of the world chaunge our state with any of those flower countries Italie France Spaine which in deede are flowers and leaues without true fruite Though the Popes iurisdiction hath been large yet can hee not compare with the pontifices maximi among the Romans which was an office of such high authoritie and great commaund that the title was afterward annexed to the Empire and the Emperours tooke vpon them to be called the high Priests The other Patriarchall Seas also did equalize Rome in largenes of iurisdiction especially Alexandria to the which was subiect al Egypt Libya Pentapolis with all the Christian Churches of Africa The Pope hath no great cause to brag of his greatnes for his wings are well clipped and I doubt not but to see yet more of this proud birds feathers pulled Neither is largenes of dominion a good argument for religion for then Pagane idolatrie which was more vniuersally receiued at once in the 〈◊〉 then Christianitie should thrust out the Gospell of 〈◊〉 And as for the King of Spaine◠〈◊〉 he may thanke the poore Indians for it whose throates the Spaniards haue cut for their gold neither is it such but that hee knoweth how to spend it and for all his great treasure his coffers are often emptie enough But let it be remembred how these popelings measure religion by riches and outward glorie which if it were a good rule the rich Chaldeans Assyrians Persians should rather haue bin the people of God thē the poore Israelites the rich Scribes and Pharisies should be preferred before the Apostles 2. Popish religion denieth dutie to God making other Mediatours beside Christ teaching inuocation of Saints adoration of images which are peculiar to God neither doth it giue honour to Magistrates abridging them of their lawfull authoritie in matters ecclesiasticall and giuing the Pope authoritie to excommunicate and depose Princes and to absolue their subiects of their oath Concerning the particulars of Popish profession what little comfort is in them how derogatorie to God contrarie to Scriptures I haue shewed before in the answere to the 5. section 3. The Pope so well appeased the quarrels betweene Henry the 2. and his Nobles that after the King had reconciled himselfe to the Pope for the death of Thomas Becket and yeelded to doe penance his troubles began afresh betweene him and his sonnes Richard and Iohn that he died for griefe And the Pope by his Legates and factors in England and other countries hath been a mouer not a compounder of strife a raiser rather then layer of warre Did not Gregorie the 7. set vp Rodolphus against Henry the 4. the Emperour betweene whom many bloodie battels were fought Did not Pope Paschalis incite Henrie the sonne against the Emperor Henrie the father and dispossessed him of the Empire Vrban the 2. did put downe Hugo Earle of Italie discharging his subiects of their oth and obedience Gregorie the 9. did excommunicate Fredericke the 2. and raised vp the Venetians against him And in England Pope Innocent the 3. commaunded vnder paine of his great curse that no man should obey King Iohn he gaue definitiue sentence in his consistorie that he should be deposed from his Crowne and appointed Philip King of France to execute this sentence promising him full remission of his sins to kill or expell King Iohn Vrban the 4. set Henrie the 3. and his Nobles together by the eares absoluing the king of his oth made to performe certaine articles agreed vpon at Oxford whereupon the Barons warres were renewed Pope Boniface set variance betweene England and Scotland in the raigne of Edward the 1. challenging Scotland as proper to the Sea of Rome But in steed of easing the people of rigorous exactions imposed by Princes the Pope himself hath vsed vnreasonable extortions Rigandus de Asteri◠the Popes Legate in England in Edward the 2. his raigne demaunded of the Clergie 8. pence in the marke toward the Legates charges but they graunted only 4. pence in the marke He also laboured to bring in a new manner of collection of Peter pence but was resisted by the King The like did Henricus the 3. Repressit impetum Legati propter violentiam denariorum He restrained the attempts of the Popes Legate touching his violent exactions of money The Bishops of England after great and forcible intreatie agreed to pay to the Pope 11000. markes The King of England saith the same author made payment to Pope Alexander the 4. vpon a very friuolous and fond matter 950000. markes Bonner himselfe witnesseth that the Popes pray in England came almost to as much as the reuenewes of the Crowne The Pope had the first fruites of all the Bishopricks in England which came to a great summe Canterburie paied 10000. Florences and 5000. for his pall Yorke as much Winchester 12000. Elie 7000. The whole summe of all the first fruites in Europe which came to the Popes coffers amounted to 2460843. Florences which maketh well nie 6. hundred 15. thousand two hundred and ten pound starling Iudge by this now Christian Reader what an impudent man this is to make the Pope a mitigator of great exactions whereas he hath been the most cruell extortor and exactor in the world As is his credit in this so let him be beleeued in the rest 4. Popish confession is so farre from keeping subiects from deuising against their Prince as that it hath been the speciall engine and instrument to contriue treacherie against the state Simon the Monke was confessed and absolued of his Abbot when he enterprised to poyson King Iohn Frier Forrest in secret confession declared to diuers subiects that King Henry the 8. was not supreame head of the Church and so abused confession to sedition Peter Barriere was confessed in the Colledge of the Iesuites in Paris and tooke the Sacrament whē he intended to murder the french King that now is Iohn Chaestell also that conspired the like had been often schooled in the Iesuites chamber of meditations These are the fruites of popish confession deuising of treasons reuealing of secrets seeking occasion to do euill for by this opportunitie diuers lewd Priests sollicited the parties that came to be confessed vnto euill As mention is made in the papall rescripts of one qui cum alterius coniuge frequenter in ecclesia dormiuit which oftentimes in the Church slept with another mans wife And this should seeme to be so vsuall a practise that for restraint thereof they decreed against it non debet episcopus vel presbyter commisceri
Christs naked crosse my selfe naked the worlds gaine must not be sought in Christs seruice It is memorable which is reported of Agesilaus who when the Thasians as he passed by with his armie brought him meale fat geese fine cakes with other iunkets he refused them all the meale onely excepted giuing this answere That those things which delighted seruile minds free men abhorred So these things whereby Papists measured religion as riches prosperitie externall glorie Protestants whom the Gospell of Christ hath freed frō popish superstition do hold them too light waights to waigh against the truth THE ANSWERE TO THE ELEVENTH Section of his defence to the Ministerie of England The first Inuectiue 1 LAstly to come to the Protestant Ministrie of England whose displeasure as I esteeme it least so I name them last pag. 113. 2 I defend the doctrine of all godlie and learned professors of Diuinitie of all Popes Fathers Doctors Councels Vniuersities Colledges c. since the time of Christ to Martin Luther where so many millions of miraculouslie approued Saints haue liued and died pag. 113. 3 I impugne a new poore lewd licentious and vnlearned companie of Ministers c. ignorant wicked deceitfull hereticall heretikes seducers reprobate persons that learned their religion of the Deuill c. those that died without repentance condemned in hell 4 I impugne a priuate religion of one nation in one onely time c. pag. 114. The Defensatiue 1 THis Iudasite Frier is now become the Popes Martiall to place euery man in his ranke and order But his authoritie reacheth onely to martiall his fellow friers And if the worst are alwayes in the last place how commeth it to passe that the Ignatian friers if they haue their right haue the last place in publike processions as being the yongest order of the rest I thinke this frierlie companion would hold great scorne that his order should be thought therefore to be worst as it is in deede but not for that cause Well it hath pleased his Mastship to talke with Ministers in the last place that is no disgrace to them but to him that gaue them not their due place And here Agesilaus answere may serue who being yet a child in the beholding of certaine playes being set in the meanest place sayd It is well I must shew that the place doth not commend the man but the man the place 2 Most of the auncient professors of Diuinitie Doctors Councels generall particular Vniuersities Colledges which were liued and florished in the purer ages of the Church do condemne popish religion as it is now professed and practised as hath been declared before These are but facing words and bragging speeches As though Bish. Iewell that reuerent father hath not long since made this challenge that he will proue the principall articles of the Protestants faith by the testimonies of the auncient Fathers and Doctors of the Church that liued within 500. yeare after Christ. Bish. Cranmer also auoucheth that the real presence as the Church of Rome holdeth cannot be proued by any Doctor aboue 1000. yeares after Christ. If this benchwhistler be ignorant of these challenges let him vnderstand it now and put vp his pipes if he knew it before it is great impudencie in him to make these brags till they be answered But as for your millions of Saints I haue told you often that those Saints whom you challenge if they be right Saints they were not yours as being ignorant of the grossest points of poperie If they were wholie yours they were no Saints for I am sure that heretikes and Idolaters make but course Saints vnlesse you will haue the Deuill to beare the crosse And seeing Saints do abound in the popish Church and it is so easie a thing to be Sainted there their Saintships may be worthilier doubted of that grow to so many millions whereas Christs flock is but a litle flocke Luk. 12.32 and fewe there are which finde the narrow way that leadeth vnto life Math. 7.14 That saying therefore of Agesilaus may fit them who when as the confederates murmured that they supplied more souldiers then the Lacedemonians commanded the crier to bid all the artificers as potters brasiers smiths carpenters to depart and there were few left but the Lacedemonians who are not permitted by their law to follow any base handicraft then he smiling said see how many more souldiers we haue sent out then you As there is great difference betweene coblers tinkers potters and other base artisanes and right souldiers so popish Saints differ from true Saints and though they haue more in muster and number yet the Protestants I doubt not haue more in right account and true value 3. But who are the licentious vnlearned company wicked ignorant deceitfull hereticall their fellow Priests shal testifie who thus witnesse of the Iudasites whō they cal proud Nemrods boystrous hunters Iesuiticall humorists Macheuillian practisers furious spirits men without conscience cousining and conspiring companions ambitious hypocrites the more knaue the better lucke and one of them they terme an Italianated companion a Diuell incarnate an other a diuellish polititian the whole order they name the society of the Diuell the schoole of Macheuilisme an other they call a most diabolicall vnnaturall and wicked fellow the rest they affirme to be led with the spirite of Sathan damned for heretikes Bathamans blasphemous wretches proud Pharises the infernall Consistorie They obiect vnto them their night lectures and their auditours of women and those faire ones for the most part whiles their husbands missing their wiues scratched their heads Now sir take your Popish liuerie of deceiptfull hereticall taught of the Diuell and such like to your selfe which your fellow Masse priests haue shaped you being best acquainted with your manners As for vs the Ministers of the Gospell we esteeme of these blasphemous words as of Rabsakeh his railing who though he vttered many shamefull words against the city of God yet they were not able to cast one stone against it to hurt it no more shall this railing Rabsakeh notwithstanding his wicked termes fasten one true word vpon Christs Ministers 4. Our Religion the faith of the Protestants the Gospell of Christ neither is in England onely professed but in Scotland the Low countries Heluetia Geneua in many cities and kingdomes beside in some peaceably in some with trouble and persecution Neither hath the Gospell onely flourished in these times but euery age hath had some witnesses of it as learned Illyricus hath sufficiently proued in a large Treatise of that argument Therefore we cannot iudge this pratler otherwise then a vaine fellow that till he be answered is bold vntruly to affirme that the Religion of Protestants should be in one onely nation and in one onely time Indeed they which die among Protestants without repentance toward God for their sinnes cannot be saued but their faith and calling are not to be
or reason in my iudgement worthie or able to withdraw a reasonable and indifferent mind not blinded with pleasure or seduced by affection from embracing the Catholike faith of the Gospell which I defend That I should not be able to iudge what maketh for vs what against vs I hope no man will challenge me of so great ignorance Thus haue I answered him in his owne words and I am perswaded much more truly for to his protestation these exceptions may be taken 1. What if this Ignatian nouice be not of such great reading as here he maketh shew of as we cannot find by his writings his protestation will then helpe him litle according to the law Nemini ex delicto sibi lucrum afferre permittitur No man is suffered to gaine by a false testimonie 2. It may also be thought that for want of better proofs he falleth to protesting as it is prouided in the law Inopia probationum res decidi potest per iusiurandum where other proofes faile the matter may be decided by oath 3. He is conuinced of manifest falshood in that he dareth auouch that all the Fathers confirme his faith and condemne the profession of the Protestants whereas it is most notoriously euident that for the grossest points of popery as Transubstantiation the sacrifice of the Masse worshipping of images iustification by workes the supremacy of the Pope prohibition of mariage and such other they haue no shew at all of any euidence from the Fathers within 500. years after Christ. And in many substantiall points they do apparantly testifie for Protestants as Cyprian for the equalitie of Bishops Hierome for the Canonicall Hebrew Scriptures Origene against the carnall presence Augustine against free-will and election vpon the foresight of our workes Ambrose for iustification by faith And these and many other such naturall points these Fathers with others do giue such cleare testimonie to the truth that it is impudencie to denie it and yet this brasen face would beare vs down that they do speak only for papistrie which they neuer knew and condemned the Euangelicall or protestants faith which they professed Wherfore this protestation hauing no probability of truth but being deuised for his owne aduantage and coyned to serue his turne is of no great credit They haue a rule in their law that witnesses shold not praemeditatuÌ„ afferre testimoniuÌ„ premeditate their testimony before to be resolued whatsoeuer other euidence there is to testifie according to their owne resolutioÌ„ so playeth this fellow as it is in the Psalme He hath coÌ„ceiued a mischiefe bringeth forth a lie Psa. 7.14 Looke as he hath premeditate and deuised with himselfe so he vttereth how soeuer the matter standeth 4. And he is too confident to imagine that no man will thinke but that in reading he is able to know what maketh for them what against theÌ„ For aâ— his preiudicate affection is so is his reading his bleare eyes take the straite for crooked like to him that sailing vpoÌ„ the waters thinketh the trees banks to go with him so he imagineth in his hasty reading that all runneth along with him As the Iewish Rabbines reade the Scriptures as Celsus prophane the writings of ChristiaÌ„s so seemeth he to haue read the Fathers wresting them to serue his owne turne I may therefore say vnto him with Seneca Multò satius erat te paucis authoribus tradere quà m errare per multos It had bene better for you to haue studied a few Authors well then to haue erred in so many 5. Lastly it had bin far more seemely if another man had made report of his great readings not himself according to the saying of the wise man Let another man praise thee not thine owne mouth a stranger and not thine owne lips Prou. 27.2 He is herein much like to Grunnius in Hierome Cùm mensa apposita librorum exposuisset struem adducto supercilio contractis naribus rugata fronte duobus digitulis concrepabat hoc signâ— ad audieÌ„duÌ„ discipulis prouocans tum nugas meras fundere c. When the table was layd heapes of bookes brought forth casting vp his eyes snorâ—ling with his nose knitting his browes knacking with his fingers to moue attention he poureth forth meere toyes I say of him with Seneca Puto multos potuisse ad sapientiam peruenire nisi putassent se peruenisse I thinke that many might haue attained to wisedome if they had not thought they had obtained it already So it is likely that this resolute champion might haue receiued grace to acknowledge the truth if he had not falsely perswaded himselfe that he had found it already remaining in errour And to conclude he hath gained very litle by this his ostentation But as Plutarch well sayth That another mans dispraise followeth a mans own praise the end of vaine glory is no glory so the more this boaster commendeth himselfe the lesse his credite and reputation will be with wise men THE ANSVVER TO THE TWELFT SECTION THAT IT IS neither dishonorable nor vnreasonable to persist in Protestancy nor honorable to grant a reformation or rather deformation of Popery The first Inducement FIrst he vrgeth and preaseth certaine defalked and maymed sentences of Luther No man I trust will so much condemne himselfe in obstinacy to be of Luthers mind and if he be not he cannot be a Protestant c. p. 123. the words of that gracelesse Luther are these How often hath my heart panted reprehended me and obiected against me What art thou onely wise can it be credible that all others haue erred so long a time I had neuer a greater or more grieuous tentation then for my preaching because I thought with my selfe Thou hast stirred vp all this tumult in which tentation I haue bene oftentimes drowned euen to hell it selfe p. 124. Because I haue entred into this cause now I must looke vnto it and of necessity say it is iust if you aske a reason Doctor Martin Luther will haue it so c. I Doctor Martin Luther do say that this article Faith alone without workes doth iustifie before God the Emperour the Pope the Cardinals c. shall suffer it to stand and they shall haue hell fire for their labour p. 125. The Aduertisement 1. PRotestants do not bind themselues to all Luthers opinions neither take vpon them to iustifie all his rash speeches and whatsoeuer hastily dropped from his pen. Popish professors do not tie themselues to any priuate Doctors opinion among them Luther was an excellent instrument in his time yet had his errours We are no Lutherans and it is not necessarie for Protestants to follow Luthers iudgement in all things We receiue not our faith from Luther but from whence Luther receiued instruction namely from the Scriptures from thence also is our faith deriued We honour the memorie of so worthy a man yet his erring footesteps we will not trace him in
August lib. 3. cont Petilian c. 16. Pag. 55. l. 24. c. Pag. 55. lin 4 5. c. Vntruth 109. We doe not condemne them to hell Parents corrupt religion not to be followed Ezech. 18.14 Errors of simplicitie in times of ignorance by Gods mercie pardoned Iohn 9.41 Lib. 4. de baptism ca 5. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Pag. 56. Pag. 57. Pag. 58. Pag. 61. Pag. 62. How farre we are bound to our predecessors for benefites receiued by and from them 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Vntruth 110. Vntruth 111. Acts of Parliament examined falâ—ely alleaged by the Apologist Vntruth 112. Vntruth 113. Vntruth 114. Vntruth 115. Vntruth 116. Vntruth 117. Vntruth 118. Vntruth 119. Vntruth 120. Vntruth 121. Westmâ—n 2. ca. 41. Edw. 1. ann 13. Aedificia coruÌ„â—cclesiis vendicentur Cod. lib. 1. tit 12. l. 11. Honor. ☞ Theodos. Popish hierarchie vsurpeth places of the Church 1. Cor. 9.11 1. Sam. 2.35 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 The third proofe What power Protestants yeeld to Princes in causes ecclesiasticall Vntruth 122. Vntruth 123. Vntruth 124. Synops. contr 7. qu. 1. par 3. Fox pag. 143. Princes ciuill and morall vertues do not iustifie their religion Sozomen lib. 4.15 Math. 15.14 The whole Christian world not deceiued Generall Councels may erre Bellar. lib. 1. de concil ca. 7. Iud. 9.48 Epistol 30. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 The fourth proofe Answ. to sect 6. Fox pag. 122. ca. 1. Popish legend miracles Fox pag. 125. col 2. Fox ibid. Ex histor Iornalens Fox p. 129. Stow an 757. Sigebert a cruell tyrant Stow an â—16 Of the cure of the Queenes euill Stow in Edward Confessor Ex Suetonio Cure of straÌ„ge diseases amoÌ„g Paganes 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Plutarch quaest Graec. 50. Serm. 18. in Psal. 119. Hieron de vir perfect Vntruth 125. Vntruth 126. Vntruth 127. Falsificat or vntruth 117. Ex histor Iornalens Fox pa. 159. Monasteries built for redemption of soules Fox pa. 279. Stow ann 179. Auncient Kings of England dissenting from the Church of Rome ann 664. Fox pa. 123. Fox ibid. col 2 lin 8.9 Ann. 880. Pag. 144. Ann. 996. Fox pa. 1142. Fox pa. 147. to pag. 151. Histor. Iornalens in vit Edgar Ann. Edw. 3.38 c. 1 2. Rich. 2. ann 13. stat 2. c. 2. Henr. 4. ann 9. c. 8. King Henries purpose to reforme religion Fox pag. 1291. Fox pag. 2091. Pag. 2092. Pag. 2093. Pag. 2095. Queene Elizabeths troubles and dangers in her sisters time Fox p. 166. c. 1. The King sweareth not by relickes at the Coronation Genes 24.2 Genes 31.53 Ambros. contr Symmach Homer Iliad â— Vntruth 128. Vntruth 129. Vntruth 130. Vntruth 131. Vntruth 132. Vntruth 133. Vntruth 134. Vntruth 135. Vntruth 136. De incarnat ca. 5. Psal. 132.14 Math. 4.19 De ciuitat Dei lib. 18. ca. 23. Lâ—â—quet Rome often taken and sacked since it was Christian The great miseries and calimities of Rome Hieron ad Principium SecuÌ„dum computationem Lanquet Cooperi 2. Thessal 2.8 Deâ—ad 1. lib. 2. Coâ—peri chrâ—ni anno 455. Blondus dec 1. lib. 10. Cooperi Chronic ann 738. Lanquet anno 414. Anno 460. Cooperi anno 701. Anno 755. Lanquet anno 769. Ann. 773. Anno 525. Ann. 6â—6 Ann. 963. Anno 966. Anno 995. Anno 1053. Cooperi Chronic ann 1009. Fox pag. 988. Why the Pope in times past so much preuailed Opâ—scul tripartit lib. 2. cap. 11. The causes of the ouerthrow of the Greeke Empire Cooperi anno 778. Opuscul tripartit lib. 1. cap. 2. Vntruth 137. The miserable end of Popes Ex Platinae Functio Balaeo de act Roman pontificum Ex Balâ—o Platina Functio c. The short raigne of Popes Fox pag. 134.170.394.675.778 edition 1583. Caranza Concilior sum 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Vntruth 138. Bucanan lib. 5. reg 54. Cooper an 646. Vntruth 139 Bucanane vntruly reported lib. 5. reg 52. Cooper an 630. Vntruth 140. Conestaggius lib. 3. de reb Portugall Munster lib. 4. c. 5. Vntruth 141. Munster lib. 4. c. 3. Vntruth 142. Lanquet chron ann 1060. Ann. 1098. Fox pag. 341. Fox pag. 343. Fox pag. 348. Vntruth 142. Vntruth 143. Chron. Cooper ann 920. Vntruth 144. Cooper an 995. Vntruth 145. Lanquet ann 1106. Ann. 1108. Hieronym Mâ—â—ius Petr. de vineis Platin. in Innocent 4. Lanquet ann 1254 Vntruth 146. The ruffling of Popes against Emperours Caus. 15. qu. 6. c. alius Caus. 15. qu. 6. c. 5. Naucler Vitae pontific Bull. Adrian Vntruth 147. Iudg. 9. 1. King 16.9 Vntruth 148. Demonst. 2. artic 9. Lib. 2. aduers. Iouinian Vntruth 149. a Ex Jllyric de vocabul fidei b Carion fol. 250. c Fox p. 2106. Vntruth 150. Fox pag. 2112. col 1. Vntruth 151. Bucanan lib. 13. Fox pa. 127â— col 1. Vntruth 152. Vntruth 153. Beda lib. 3. histor gent. Anglor c. 1. Beda lib. 2. c. 20 Lib. 3. c. 9. Lib. 3. c. 18. Vntruth 153. Fox pa. 119. Fox pag. 161. Vntruth 154. Fox pag. 152. col 1. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Cod. lib. 4. tit 20. leg 9. Gratian Vntruth 155. Stow anno VVillel 20. Stow. A notable benefactor euill requiâ—ed Stowe Ex Math. Parisiens Fox pag. 185. Fox pag. 189. Stowe Vntruth 156. Fox pag. 191. col 1. Cooper Fox pag. 199. col 1. Vntruth 157. Fox pag. 185. col 1. Vntruth 158. Fox pag. 228. col 2. Histor. de regib Angl. Stowe Vntruth 159. Fox pag. 227. col 1. Stowe Cooper Ann. 1174. Vntruth 160. Vntruth 161. Stow in King Iohn Caxton lib. 7. Gisburâ—e Cooper in King Iohn Stow in Henry the second Vntruth 162. Stow in Henry the third Lanquet in Henry the 3. Vntruth 163. Stowe in Edward the 2. Lanquet anno 1320. annoâ—387 â—387 1397. Vntruth 164. Vntruth 165. The vnhappie end of Princes deuoted to the Pope Ex Aenea Siluio in histor Bohem. Fox pag. 741. col 1. Fox pag. 180. Lanquet anno 1080. Fox pag. 2112. Ex histor Iornalens Stowe Fox pag. 111. Stowe Fox pag. 132. Stowe ex Asserio Stowe Stovv Lanquet Rich. 2. ann 2. c. 7. Stovv Lanquet Fox pag. 523. col 1. Stovv Lanquet Stovv ex Thom. Mor. Fox pag. 29â— Ed. 1. anno 7. Kings of England prosperous that bent themselues against the Pope Ed. 1. ann 25. Ed. â— ann 25. Fox pag. 1071. col 1. ex orat Dom. Radulp. Saâ—ler The prosperitie of Queene Elizabeths raigne The vaine hope and expectations of Papists made frustrate Psal. 118 23. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Popish Bishops what learned Clarks Fox pag. 949. Fox pag. 1266. col 2. Fox pag. 1274. Lib. 7. in Lucam 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Pag. 81. Pag. 82. Vntruth 165. The Lord Cromwell defended Stowe anno Henric. 32. Fox pag. 1069. col 1. Fox ibid. Vntruth 166. The good Duke of Sommerset defended Fox pag. 1372. col 2. Vntruth 167. Fox pag. 1408. col 1. Vntruth 168. Visions of Deuils not strange in Poperie Ioannes Stella Platina Ioann Baleus Math. Parisiens Flores histor Sleidan lib. 23. Vntruth 169. The commendation of worthie