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A67246 An ansvver to the sope-makers complaint wherein is clearly demonstrated their scandalous aspersions, and the falacies of their atguments [sic] proved before the honourable committee for regulating the excise, Octob. 23. 1650. As also the proceedings of the proposers and their severall proposals: wherein is found nothing prejudiciall to the Common-wealth; no excise further being further added, no man restrained, no man oppressed, but that every man may make what he can, so he pay his due. In which, such care shall be taken, as may tend to the benefit of the Common-wealth, and the reputation and profit of the trade of the sope-maker of London. By him that is a lover of honesty, and a well-willer to that trade. Walker, John, 1650-1730. 1650 (1650) Wing W391B; ESTC R219915 7,396 15

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one may pay exactly and not break no more then I which I do abhorre from your calumnious pen and dares to tell it to you that you unjustly slander me as hereafter may to your cost appear but you have abused far better men then my self God forgive you for both and for the future I resolve to follow the example of that honourable person forenamed to reward you good for your evil if it ever be in my power But now to your hundred of pans so lately set up though I beleeve not one half yet some more may be then I imagine because divers of your most eminent Subscribers have of late set up just such as you speak of and I do verily beleeve to the same purpose that they might pay the lesse Excise but for any power to break open dores or oppresse the poor I declare it to all the world I had rather suffer then do injury to another neither was it ever my practice or ever shall be to run any desperate course or cause others so to doe in these troublesome times to answer your words verbatim which may prove of dangerous consequence to the State for so I might come like you to render my self capable of a hanging But to proceed next you are informed that the Proposers are Soap-makers I grant it and yet upon this bare report your slanderous pen dares render them broke and presently following you say not worth two groats I do beleeve you and your Partners could wish it so but God forgive you I shall not much trouble my pen to vindicate my self in a thing so well known to the contrary yet let me tell you if such desperate affirmations upon so false informations and such rash censures be the Levellers Tenents into their Congregation let not my soul come and yet as if you would fill full the measure of your abominations dares without knowledge of the parties passe your censure of Gods judgements upon them but if all were true you had spoke of us I would say with the Prophet Micah Rejoyce not against me O my Enemy for though I fall I shall rise again Next you affirm your confidence is we will not stand to it nor can give security for our performance of it To both which I say thus in that we would not stand to it your eyes and ears were sorrowfull witnesses that your confidence has deceived you and that to your face before a judicious and honourable Committee and for our security I can if there were any necessity for it bring more honest lesse turbulent more able lesse insolent men then your self to be responsible security for the true performance of what we propose and so much for your second Now for the third which you say to your understanding runs thus indeed I imagine your wits are but weak and sometimes may run a wooll-gathering but I hope we shall not walk in any crooked rigorous ways for that would not agree with my Motto which is to walk in the light purely and surely and so thereby shall be able to give a better answer to the State then all your following lines but the last sets forth not one of which is worth the answering but in a word we will double the Excise with lesse charge then formerly yea or the breach or altering any Ordinance or Act of Parliament in that kind provided no nor offer injury in the least to any man if the State shall think us worthy the employment and I am confident nothing troubles neither you or your Partners more then the fear of the employment of able men in that businesse for set a Thief to catch a Thief is sometimes State-policy Sir and for the information you give of the Bobber at Bow I am not sensible that of late you have don the State any greater service but catch him napping and take half for your pains then I undeniably conclude with you as you of us that neither you nor we will or can work for nothing And one thing let me tell you by the way I believe you have not got much by bobbing Well but here I must resolve a riddle as it seems to mee you tell them of our great houses and a great Trade and that we may prove the great ones we talk of to devour the little one what a great Trade and great house and yet not worth two groats here 's a mystery to me and broke too well I passe it by for present but if I knew but at this day what you were worth which for any thing I know may not be much and there is some hazard too as it may happen in the keeping of it I could give a neer guess if you continue your bobbing trade how long it would be ere you broke for I know some that joyn with you in subscribing that outwit you there and being alwaies ready to helpe on another at a dead lift will rather then faile give you a heave too I advise you beware and remember this when any one of them buyes a good bargain and lets you have part let me know it and I 'le acknowledge my error Well next you tell the Parliament of their great streights and the cause of the Excise they know all this as well as you and I beleeve would not have continued it thus long had not urgent necessities of the Commonwealth required it and all this evill is caused by turbulent Spirits God keep you quiet and therefore seeing the case so stands make a vertue of necessity and pay this the Parliaments legall Imposition duely and truly and as your Petition hath it freely and willingly all which your carriage in this businesse declares you doe but how I leave the World to judge Indeed your words and deeds seldome agree submit then to the present power and threaten not the Parliament 〈◊〉 Committee as may be easily gathered in your 7. last lines where you pretend to seek ease and redresse but meet with honest proposals which if they countenance what you will doe God knowes but a world of clamors followes I doe therefore in love to your person advise you to submit to a legall power and forbear to lay platforms and ground-works to ill-minded people which may doe more hurt than ever you did good and so much for your 3d. and 4th Proposition or interjection be it what you please Now followes wonders for in your last line I find most Honorable and Worthy Senators here 's a Title indeed good God keep you in this mind I fear 't is too good to hold it is not long since you rendered them in other words but keepe you there and you hear no more of me I will ee'n leave you while you are in good mind to your reasons and proposalls so reall and certainly gaining to the Nation this is new with you too which I beleeve hath not appeared so to the Honorable Committee for regulating the Excise by their answer to your papers and my