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A30198 Reprobation asserted, or, The doctrine of eternal election & reprobation promiscuously handled in eleven chapters wherein the most material objections made by the opposers of this doctrine are fully answered, several doubts removed, and sundry cases of conscience resolved / by John Bunyan. Bunyan, John, 1628-1688. 1674 (1674) Wing B5588; ESTC R30870 43,018 51

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