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An epistle concerning baptism. [occai]sionally written upon the sight [of] two treatises published by Thomas James father of a Presbyterian congre[ga]tion at Ashford in Kent : who [ha]th reflected upon the baptized [C]hristians / [by] [W]illiam Russell.
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Russel, William.
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1696
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Wing R2357B; ESTC R187283
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prove_v from_o the_o act_n of_o council_n and_o ancient_a ritual_n that_o everywhere_o in_o the_o whole_a church_n throughout_o the_o world_n for_o the_o space_n of_o 1300_o year_n baptism_n be_v never_o administer_v but_o by_o dip_v except_o only_o in_o case_n of_o necessity_n and_o bellarmine_n say_v infant-baptism_n be_v call_v a_o apostolical_a tradition_n not_o write_v because_o it_o be_v not_o find_v write_v in_o any_o apostolical_a book_n tom._n 1._o lib._n 4._o cap._n 2._o where_o by_o the_o way_n i_o shall_v note_v that_o if_o a_o man_n of_o his_o part_n and_o learning_n can_v not_o find_v it_o there_o i_o believe_v other_o will_v have_v as_o little_a success_n in_o their_o search_n after_o it_o and_o it_o have_v be_v his_o interest_n to_o have_v prove_v it_o from_o scripture_n as_o much_o as_o any_o because_o ãâã_d say_v a_o great_a stress_n upon_o ãâã_d than_o ãâã_d and_o these_o of_o his_o religion_n for_o they_o assert_v it_o to_o be_v necessary_a ãâã_d ââation_n let_v mr._n jaââ_n know_v we_o do_v not_o bring_v the_o testimony_n of_o hurâ_n he_o writer_n because_o we_o think_v the_o holy_a scripture_n ãâã_d to_o justify_v our_o cause_n for_o i_o may_v say_v with_o tertullian_n lib._n contra_fw-la hermogenem_fw-la adoro_fw-la scripturae_fw-la pleâitudiââ_n etc._n etc._n i_o adore_v the_o fuluess_n of_o the_o scripture_n let_v âââgexes_n show_v that_o it_o be_v write_v but_o to_o satisfy_v the_o world_n that_o we_o be_v not_o singular_a in_o our_o judgement_n about_o these_o matter_n as_o also_o to_o obviate_v a_o objection_n of_o your_o pastor_n who_o tell_v we_o in_o his_o last_o trease_n pag._n 20_o that_o at_o the_o rate_n some_o baptist_n write_v and_o ãâã_d report_v the_o word_n of_o the_o learned_a they_o will_v perâââ_n swade_v silly_a people_n all_o the_o learned_a man_n be_v almost_o ãâã_d anabaptist_n and_o ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d self-condemned_n be_v ãâã_d as_o they_o be_v in_o opinion_n though_o of_o a_o contrary_a practice_n i_o answer_v that_o although_o they_o be_v of_o a_o contrary_a practice_n i_o hope_v that_o can_v be_v no_o bar_n to_o we_o from_o recite_v their_o word_n in_o favour_n of_o our_o opinion_n for_o firmum_n est_fw-fr ãâã_d prohationis_fw-la quod_fw-la ab_fw-la ipso_fw-la adversario_fw-la sumitur_fw-la ut_fw-la veritas_fw-la ãâã_d ipsis_fw-la inimicis_fw-la veritatis_fw-la probetur_fw-la it_o be_v a_o forcible_a kind_n of_o proof_n which_o be_v take_v from_o the_o adversary_n himself_o when_o âe_a truth_n be_v prove_v from_o they_o that_o oppose_v the_o truth_n ând_v i_o have_v herein_o follow_v the_o counsel_n of_o lactantius_n ãâã_d 1._o c._n 6._o eos_n suorum_fw-la testimoviââ_n revincere_fw-la etc._n etc._n to_o convince_v âhem_fw-mi by_o their_o own_o testimony_n which_o be_v the_o strong_a conviction_n that_o may_v be_v as_o it_o be_v true_o say_v by_o chrysostom_n tunc_fw-la illos_fw-la maxim_n revinââus_fw-la cum_fw-la suorum_fw-la in_fw-la eos_fw-la dicta_fw-la retorquemus_fw-la we_o 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when_o it_o be_v against_o thyself_o now_o i_o fancy_v that_o the_o reason_n why_o mr._n james_n will_v not_o have_v we_o urge_v the_o testimony_n of_o the_o learned_a for_o fear_v of_o show_v how_o contradictory_n some_o of_o their_o opinion_n have_v be_v to_o their_o practice_n be_v lest_o in_o so_o do_v he_o also_o shall_v be_v find_v to_o be_v ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d condemn_v of_o himself_o and_o that_o in_o many_o place_n of_o his_o book_n particular_o when_o he_o bring_v a_o poet_n to_o prove_v that_o christ_n be_v not_o baptize_v by_o dip_v and_o in_o pag._n 20._o he_o say_v i_o will_v fain_o know_v who_o can_v prove_v our_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n be_v dip_v or_o plunge_v in_o his_o baptism_n or_o any_o of_o those_o baptize_v one_o speak_v of_o in_o the_o new_a testament_n be_v so_o dip_v or_o plunge_v i_o will_v give_v you_o the_o opinion_n of_o some_o learned_a man_n upon_o it_o in_o this_o very_a place_n although_o i_o have_v say_v sufficient_a to_o it_o elsewhere_o and_o then_o show_v you_o how_o mr._n james_n be_v condemn_v by_o his_o own_o pen._n now_o if_o any_o one_o say_v maldonate_fw-it ask_v why_o the_o evangelist_n use_v the_o word_n of_o ascend_v etc._n etc._n it_o be_v because_o christ_n ascend_v or_o go_v up_o out_o of_o the_o water_n in_o the_o which_o he_o have_v be_v dip_v or_o drown_v lucas_n brugensis_n say_v upon_o the_o place_n matth._n 3.16_o christ_n descend_v into_o the_o river_n after_o the_o manner_n oâ_n other_o that_o be_v baptize_v as_o deep_o as_o his_o thigh_n oâ_n his_o navel_n for_o the_o rest_n of_o his_o body_n be_v dip_v by_o johâ_n and_o not_o sprinkle_v only_o with_o water_n and_o the_o learned_a cajetan_a tell_v we_o upon_o the_o place_n christ_n ascend_v out_o of_o the_o water_n therefore_o christ_n be_v baptize_v by_o john_n not_o by_o sprinkle_v nor_o by_o pour_v wateâ_n upon_o he_o but_o by_o immersion_n that_o be_v by_o dip_v oâ_n plunge_v in_o the_o water_n many_o more_o testimony_n may_v be_v bring_v 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be_v in_o christ_n time_n and_o that_o the_o ãâã_d way_n of_o baptise_v very_o well_o than_o it_o seem_v we_o praââââ_n the_o most_o ancient_a and_o the_o best_a way_n of_o baptise_v mr._n james_n acknowledgement_n and_o himself_o do_v praââââ_n the_o contrary_a and_o therefore_o must_v needs_o be_v self-conââed_n as_o practise_v the_o worst_a way_n especial_o if_o he_o ãâã_d consider_v that_o there_o be_v neither_o precept_n nor_o precedent_n ãâã_d infant-sprinkling_a in_o all_o the_o word_n of_o god_n but_o to_o close_v this_o head_n i_o be_o upon_o if_o this_o be_v true_a that_o ãâã_d of_o the_o apostle_n nor_o first_o minister_n of_o the_o gospel_n ãâã_d ever_o practice_v the_o sprinkle_v of_o infant_n there_o must_v ãâã_d some_o good_a reason_n why_o they_o do_v it_o not_o and_o the_o best_a ãâã_d think_v of_o be_v because_o christ_n have_v not_o command_v they_o ãâã_d do_v but_o on_o the_o contrary_a