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A57394 Rusticus ad clericum, or, The plow-man rebuking the priest in answer to Verus Patroclus : wherein the falsehoods, forgeries, lies, perversions and self-contradictions of William Jamison are detected / by John Robertson. Robertson, John. 1694 (1694) Wing R1607; ESTC R34571 147,597 374

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