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man_n pestiferous_a and_o raise_v sedition_n to_o all_o the_o jew_n in_o thâ—_n world_n etc._n etc._n and_o afterward_o 25._o afterward_o act._n 25._o the_o jew_n before_o the_o precedent_n festus_n object_v against_o s._n paul_n many_o and_o greâ—uous_a crime_n which_o they_o can_v not_o prove_v but_o they_o may_v easy_o have_v prove_v that_o s._n paul_n do_v preach_v the_o resurrection_n of_o christ_n for_o that_o he_o confess_v the_o same_o before_o both_o the_o precedent_n and_o king_n agrippa_n whereupon_o king_n agrippa_n say_v to_o s._n paul_n 26_o paul_n act._n 26_o a_o little_a thou_o persuade_v i_o to_o become_v a_o christian_n and_o before_o 25._o before_o act._n 25._o s._n paul_n make_v answer_v to_o the_o precedent_n festus_n that_o neither_o against_o the_o law_n of_o the_o jew_n nor_o against_o the_o temple_n nor_o against_o caesar_n have_v i_o any_o thing_n offend_v which_o signify_v that_o he_o be_v accuse_v that_o he_o have_v offend_v against_o caesar_n and_o a_o 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