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B20551 A discourse concerning excommunication. By THomas Comber DD. Precentor of York. Comber, Thomas, 1645-1699. 1684 (1684) Wing C5459 99,055 127

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cap._n 11._o §._o 1._o and_o so_o do_v our_o reform_a bishop_n wherefore_o i_o be_o not_o concern_v how_o the_o papal_a encroachment_n be_v tolerate_v or_o restrain_v because_o excommunication_n be_v right_o manage_v before_o they_o be_v in_o be_v and_o be_v now_o after_o they_o be_v cast_v out_o and_o now_o a_o brief_a review_n of_o these_o objection_n will_v suffice●y_v wherefore_o we_o will_v here_o represent_v they_o all_o together_o he_o allege_v many_o particular_n to_o this_o purpose_n viz._n that_o eadmerus_n say_v concern_v william_n the_o conqueror_n that_o he_o will_v not_o suffer_v any_o of_o his_o baron_n or_o minister_n to_o be_v prosecute_v or_o excommunicate_v for_o incest_n adultery_n or_o any_o other_o capital_a crime_n 197._o crime_n seld._n de_fw-fr synedr_n lib._n i._o cap._n 10._o pag._n 197._o which_o seem_v to_o be_v a_o odious_a representation_n of_o a_o monk_n who_o be_v concern_v in_o the_o controversy_n between_o anselm_n and_o the_o crown_n for_o eadmerus_n 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cum_fw-la tryph._n p._n 323_o 335_o &_o 363._o yea_o epiphanius_n say_v that_o the_o jew_n in_o their_o synagogue_n twice_o a_o day_n at_o noon_n and_o at_o evening_n do_v curse_n and_o anathematise_v the_o christian_n say_v o_o god_n curse_v these_o nazarite_n 18._o nazarite_n epiphan_n panar_n sect._n 29._o p._n 55._o s._n hierom_n say_v they_o do_v it_o thrice_o a_o day_n com._n in_o isai_n v._o 18._o and_o the_o like_a anathema_n they_o pronounce_v against_o all_o those_o who_o read_v their_o law_n in_o the_o greek_a tongue_n till_o justinian_n do_v forbid_v this_o by_o a_o particular_a constitution_n yet_o extant_a in_o the_o book_n of_o the_o civil_a law_n 202._o law_n justin_n auth._n collat._n ix_o tit._n 29._o nou._n 146_o pag._n 202._o to_o this_o may_v be_v add_v a_o three_o sort_n of_o excommunication_n sometime_o use_v among_o the_o jew_n call_v schammatha_n which_o be_v a_o solemn_a deliver_v a_o desperate_a and_o incurable_a criminal_a to_o the_o divine_a vengeance_n 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speak_v of_o his_o apostle_n determine_v in_o the_o school_n or_o solve_v case_n of_o conscience_n but_o of_o the_o power_n they_o shall_v have_v to_o punish_v contumacious_a offender_n and_o injurious_a person_n and_o though_o mr._n selden_n object_n it_o be_v not_o whosoever_o you_o shall_v bind_v but_o whatsoever_o yet_o he_o answer_v himself_o say_v that_o it_o be_v true_a person_n may_v be_v signify_v by_o the_o neuter_n gender_n pag._n 159._o final_o for_o his_o fancy_n that_o the_o force_n of_o excommunication_n depend_v on_o private_a pact_n among_o the_o christian_n it_o be_v not_o to_o be_v imagine_v that_o murderer_n and_o adulterer_n perjure_a person_n and_o apostate_n will_v have_v scruple_v break_v these_o part_n or_o have_v be_v so_o terrify_v and_o deject_v by_o a_o excommunication_n if_o it_o have_v only_o rely_v on_o their_o own_o promise_n to_o obey_v it_o i_o grant_v indeed_o the_o christian_n do_v vow_n in_o baptism_n and_o the_o eucharist_n to_o observe_v christ_n command_n and_o submit_v to_o his_o injunction_n among_o which_o doubtless_o they_o reckon_v this_o so_o much_o reverence_v discipline_n to_o which_o they_o be_v subject_a for_o that_o they_o believe_v it_o to_o be_v exercise_v in_o christ_n name_n and_o by_o virtue_n of_o his_o authority_n we_o conclude_v therefore_o that_o mr._n selden_n have_v gain_v nothing_o by_o this_o prolix_a excursion_n but_o only_o to_o convince_v we_o that_o he_o wish_v excommunication_n be_v not_o of_o divine_a right_n though_o he_o be_v not_o able_a to_o prove_v it_o and_o no_o question_n we_o be_v much_o safe_a in_o believe_v with_o those_o holy_a primitive_a bishop_n who_o may_v know_v the_o mind_n of_o christ_n and_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o apostle_n much_o better_o than_o our_o modern_a critic_n and_o who_o be_v more_o likely_a to_o tell_v we_o the_o truth_n than_o those_o who_o espouse_v a_o party_n and_o serve_v end_n of_o revenge_n for_o censure_n not_o undeserved_o lay_v upon_o they_o §_o iii_o our_o next_o enquiry_n as_o to_o practice_n be_v whether_o this_o rite_n of_o excommunication_n be_v use_v and_o believe_v of_o divine_a right_n after_o the_o empire_n become_v christian_n and_o this_o we_o must_v do_v the_o more_o large_o to_o confute_v the_o error_n of_o erastus_n espouse_v also_o by_o mr._n selden_n who_o attempt_v to_o prove_v that_o in_o a_o christian_a state_n there_o be_v no_o need_n of_o any_o such_o thing_n as_o a_o power_n of_o excommunication_n in_o the_o churchman_n because_o the_o magistrate_n now_o may_v punish_v all_o crime_n and_o that_o it_o be_v only_o for_o want_n of_o this_o blessing_n of_o christian_a magistrate_n which_o force_v the_o primitive_a bishop_n to_o use_v excommunication_n to_o which_o mr._n selden_n add_v that_o after_o the_o empire_n become_v christian_n the_o bishop_n derive_v their_o power_n to_o excommunicate_v from_o the_o prince_n grant_n there_o be_v no_o better_a way_n to_o find_v out_o the_o truth_n herein_o than_o to_o consult_v the_o record_n of_o those_o age_n and_o to_o inquire_v into_o the_o opinion_n of_o the_o most_o eminent_a father_n after_o constantine_n time_n and_o into_o the_o practice_n of_o those_o age_n which_o retain_v the_o primitive_a purity_n and_o though_o we_o can_v bring_v in_o all_o thing_n of_o this_o kind_n between_o the_o year_n 300._o and_o 500_o for_o that_o will_v be_v to_o write_v a_o church_n history_n not_o a_o discourse_n upon_o one_o single_a point_n yet_o we_o will_v remark_n that_o which_o be_v sufficient_a to_o baffle_v this_o modern_a and_o ill_a ground_a conceit_n and_o first_o whereas_o it_o be_v most_o certain_a that_o the_o bishop_n do_v excommunicate_a in_o constantine_n time_n yet_o no_o writer_n of_o that_o age_n do_v affirm_v they_o do_v it_o by_o any_o power_n from_o the_o emperor_n and_o mr._n selden_n out_o of_o his_o vast_a stock_n of_o read_v at_o this_o dead_a lift_n can_v not_o bring_v one_o single_a memorial_n of_o the_o emperor_n give_v the_o bishop_n a_o power_n to_o excommunicate_v in_o all_o this_o period_n of_o time_n it_o be_v true_a these_o first_o christian_a emperor_n and_o constantine_n particular_o do_v ordain_v that_o if_o any_o litigant_n desire_v to_o have_v their_o cause_n try_v before_o the_o bishop_n they_o may_v leave_v the_o secular_a tribunal_n and_o that_o the_o bishop_n sentence_n shall_v be_v firm_a and_o of_o more_o authority_n than_o those_o of_o other_o judge_n yea_o as_o valid_a as_o if_o they_o be_v deliver_v by_o the_o emperor_n himself_o as_o also_o that_o the_o magistrate_n and_o their_o officer_n shall_v execute_v their_o sentence_n and_o that_o the_o decree_n of_o their_o council_n shall_v be_v valid_a fine_a valid_a sozomen_n hist_o eccles_n lib._n 1._o cap._n 9_o p._n 206._o circa_n an._n 314._o vide_fw-la cod._n theodos_fw-la l._n 16._o tit._n 2._o in_o fine_a which_o law_n do_v indeed_o give_v they_o a_o new_a power_n not_o grant_v by_o christ_n but_o never_o mention_n excommunication_n yea_o it_o ordain_v that_o these_o sentence_n shall_v be_v execute_v by_o another_o method_n even_o by_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n and_o his_o officer_n mr._n selden_n indeed_o produce_v another_o law_n as_o if_o it_o be_v a_o repeal_n of_o this_o in_o the_o time_n of_o valens_n gratian_n and_o valentinian_n ann._n 376._o above_o 60._o year_n after_o but_o that_o law_n seem_v to_o except_v only_o criminal_a action_n from_o the_o bishop_n cognizance_n 187._o cognizance_n vid._n seld._n synedr_n l._n 1._o cap._n 10._o p._n 187._o and_o if_o we_o consider_v the_o complaint_n of_o the_o good_a bishop_n in_o that_o age_n who_o be_v burden_a with_o divers_a civil_a cause_n or_o look_v upon_o those_o law_n of_o arcadius_n and_o honorius_n 408._o honorius_n cod._n justin_n lib._n 1._o tit._n 4._o the_o epist_n aud._n l._n 7._o an._n 398._o &_o l._n 8._o an._n 408._o and_o of_o honorius_n and_o theodosius_n which_o allow_v man_n to_o choose_v bishop_n for_o decide_v their_o civil_a cause_n and_o declare_v their_o sentence_n to_o be_v firm_a and_o valid_a we_o shall_v easy_o perceive_v that_o constantine_n law_n be_v never_o repeal_v nor_o this_o practice_n difuse_v but_o this_o do_v not_o at_o all_o belong_v to_o excommunication_n which_o power_n the_o bishop_n exercise_v by_o the_o virtue_n of_o christ_n commission_n in_o case_n of_o heresy_n and_o scandal_n and_o that_o not_o by_o consent_n of_o the_o party_n as_o they_o do_v this_o power_n of_o decision_n of_o civil_a cause_n so_o that_o mr._n selden_n ought_v not_o to_o make_v excommunication_n depend_v on_o these_o grant_n for_o the_o emperor_n authority_n do_v not_o precede_v but_o follow_v the_o bishop_n act_n in_o excommunication_n so_o that_o if_o the_o person_n censure_v prove_v obstinate_a or_o troublesome_a he_o be_v banish_v or_o imprison_v by_o the_o imperial_a power_n as_o we_o see_v in_o the_o case_n of_o the_o arian_n who_o be_v excommunicate_v by_o the_o first_o general_n council_n of_o nice_a and_o the_o emperor_n constantine_n do_v ordain_v that_o those_o who_o submit_v not_o to_o the_o decree_n of_o the_o council_n shall_v be_v banish_v 221._o banish_v sozom_o eccles_n hist_o lib._n 1._o cap._n 19_o p._n 221._o and_o that_o the_o bishop_n do_v exercise_v this_o power_n in_o their_o own_o right_n as_o derive_v from_o christ_n be_v manifest_a from_o the_o whole_a history_n of_o that_o age_n arius_n himself_o and_o all_o his_o associate_n be_v excommunicate_v at_o alexandria_n first_o by_o peter_n and_o then_o by_o alexander_n the_o bishop_n of_o that_o city_n 215._o city_n idem_fw-la ibid._n cap._n 14._o p._n 215._o before_o any_o application_n be_v make_v to_o the_o emperor_n and_o before_o the_o nicene_n council_n be_v call_v and_o that_o most_o famous_a council_n in_o almost_o every_o canon_n suppose_v the_o bishop_n to_o be_v the_o judge_n of_o such_o as_o be_v to_o be_v keep_v out_o and_o such_o as_o be_v to_o be_v let_v into_o the_o church_n and_o those_o holy_a father_n do_v decree_n concern_v penitent_n and_o lapse_v person_n according_a to_o the_o ancient_a usage_n of_o ecclesiastical_a discipline_n under_o heathen_a emperor_n without_o any_o alteration_n make_v upon_o the_o account_n of_o constantine_n be_v a_o christian_n make_v the_o bishop_n the_o sole_a judge_n of_o the_o time_n of_o exclude_v these_o offender_n from_o communion_n in_o sacred_a office_n to_o this_o we_o may_v add_v that_o accurate_a scheme_n of_o the_o admirable_a discipline_n of_o these_o primitive_a age_n which_o be_v describe_v in_o the_o canonical_a epistle_n of_o gregory_n thaumaturgus_n s._n basil_n and_o other_o of_o the_o primitive_a bishop_n by_o which_o we_o see_v that_o such_o as_o be_v first_o excommunicate_v by_o the_o bishop_n for_o fornication_n adultery_n murder_n perjury_n apostasy_n and_o other_o crime_n 72._o crime_n vid._n leonem_fw-la allatium_fw-la de_fw-la narthece_n vet._n eccl._n §._o 19_o p._n 94._o et_fw-la bevereg_n not._n ad_fw-la can._n xi_o
christianity_n an._n 862._o capit_fw-la car._n calv._n cap._n 4_o 5._o so_o that_o still_o the_o bishop_n exercise_v his_o spiritual_a jurisdiction_n by_o the_o power_n he_o have_v receive_v from_o god_n and_o lest_o any_o shall_v despise_v this_o as_o be_v a_o spiritual_a penalty_n the_o secular_a law_n of_o these_o pious_a prince_n do_v inflict_v outward_a punishment_n on_o such_o imprisonment_n banishment_n confiscation_n of_o their_o good_n and_o death_n itself_o and_o now_o when_o by_o these_o secular_a penalty_n annex_v excommunication_n be_v become_v so_o terrible_a and_o so_o grievous_a not_o only_o to_o the_o soul_n by_o christ_n ordinance_n but_o to_o man_n outward_a condition_n by_o the_o law_n of_o the_o kingdom_n it_o be_v no_o wonder_n that_o these_o prince_n do_v revive_v those_o old_a canon_n which_o forbid_v the_o bishop_n rash_o to_o excommunicate_v for_o it_o be_v so_o great_a a_o temporal_a damage_n to_o their_o subject_n that_o they_o be_v now_o concern_v to_o see_v that_o the_o bishop_n do_v use_v their_o power_n only_o in_o just_a and_o weighty_a cause_n and_o hence_o we_o find_v those_o law_n make_v that_o excommunication_n shall_v not_o be_v issue_v out_o rash_o and_o without_o cause_n 136._o cause_n an._n 803._o cap._n 2._o &_o capit._n lib._n 1._o cap._n 136._o and_o that_o no_o bishop_n or_o priest_n shall_v excommunicate_v any_o till_o the_o cause_n be_v prove_v sufficient_a by_o the_o canon_n and_o till_o the_o offender_n either_o confess_v or_o be_v convict_v and_o according_a to_o the_o gospel_n precept_n have_v be_v warn_v to_o repent_v and_o amend_v but_o if_o after_o all_o this_o he_o despise_v the_o church_n censure_n the_o bishop_n shall_v then_o desire_v the_o royal_a power_n to_o compel_v he_o to_o submit_v etc._n etc._n 213._o etc._n an._n 858._o capit._fw-la tom._n ii_o pag._n 115._o &_o ibidem_fw-la anno_fw-la 869._o cap._n 10._o pag._n 213._o and_o again_o no_o bishop_n shall_v excommunicate_v any_o person_n without_o a_o certain_a and_o manifest_a cause_n but_o the_o anathema_n shall_v not_o be_v pronounce_v without_o the_o consent_n of_o his_o archbishop_n and_o fellow_n bishop_n after_o the_o evangelical_n admonition_n and_o for_o some_o cause_n allow_v by_o the_o canon_n because_o the_o anathema_n be_v a_o condemn_v to_o eternal_a death_n and_o ought_v not_o to_o be_v inflict_v but_o for_o mortal_a sin_n and_o on_o incorrigible_a offender_n 36._o offender_n an._n 846._o cap._n carol._n calv._n cap._n 46._o tom._n ii_o pag._n 36._o in_o which_o law_n those_o prince_n do_v not_o take_v upon_o they_o arbitrary_o to_o limit_v restrain_v or_o direct_v the_o power_n of_o excommunication_n as_o if_o their_o bishop_n have_v that_o power_n from_o they_o and_o not_o from_o christ_n only_o they_o take_v care_n that_o they_o shall_v not_o use_v that_o power_n which_o christ_n have_v trust_v they_o with_o otherwise_o than_o according_a to_o the_o direction_n which_o scripture_n and_o the_o old_a canon_n have_v give_v for_o the_o more_o orderly_a exercise_n thereof_o and_o that_o they_o shall_v not_o abuse_v their_o power_n now_o amplify_v by_o temporal_a accession_n to_o the_o damage_n of_o private_a subject_n or_o to_o the_o disturbance_n of_o the_o public_a peace_n and_o this_o these_o christian_a prince_n be_v oblige_v to_o do_v by_o their_o office_n and_o they_o do_v it_o without_o infringe_v the_o bishop_n divine_a right_n at_o all_o for_o though_o a_o parent_n by_o divine_a right_n have_v power_n over_o his_o child_n yet_o without_o take_v away_o that_o right_o the_o state_n may_v direct_v parent_n how_o to_o manage_v that_o power_n and_o beside_o it_o may_v be_v observe_v that_o none_o of_o the_o prince_n do_v ever_o pretend_v either_o to_o grant_v the_o bishop_n this_o power_n or_o whole_o to_o forbid_v they_o to_o exercise_v it_o only_o they_o direct_v they_o to_o manage_v it_o wary_o and_o wise_o and_o as_o they_o ought_v to_o have_v manage_v it_o if_o no_o such_o rule_n have_v be_v give_v they_o and_o thus_o mr._n selden'_v great_a argument_n take_v from_o these_o law_n as_o if_o they_o prove_v the_o power_n of_o excommunication_n to_o be_v in_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n fall_v to_o the_o ground_n §_o v._o against_o this_o full_a and_o clear_a evidence_n i_o know_v none_o that_o have_v raise_v any_o considerable_a objection_n but_o only_o the_o learned_a selden_n who_o have_v turn_v over_o all_o his_o author_n and_o record_n with_o great_a diligence_n to_o pick_v up_o something_o to_o oppose_v this_o ancient_a and_o almost_o universal_a opinion_n who_o instance_n when_o i_o have_v examine_v and_o answer_v i_o need_v not_o fear_v any_o great_a matter_n out_o of_o antiquity_n because_o he_o have_v a_o personal_a quarrel_n to_o the_o position_n i_o maintain_v and_o a_o vast_a stock_n of_o learning_n to_o enable_v he_o to_o manage_v it_o to_o the_o best_a advantage_n his_o objection_n be_v not_o put_v into_o any_o method_n but_o i_o shall_v collect_v they_o into_o the_o best_a order_n i_o can_v and_o with_o all_o due_a respect_n to_o so_o great_a a_o antiquary_n unfortunate_a only_o in_o the_o cause_n he_o undertake_v i_o shall_v consider_v they_o first_o he_o pretend_v that_o constantine_n do_v absolve_v eusebius_n of_o nicomedia_n and_o theognis_n of_o nice_a two_o arrian_n bishop_n who_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a have_v excommunicate_v and_o this_o he_o will_v prove_v by_o the_o phrase_n of_o a_o arabic_a historian_n who_o live_v long_o after_o this_o time_n 188._o time_n seld_o syne_v l._n i._o cap._n 10._o p._n 187_o 188._o but_o sozomen_n a_o more_o authentic_a author_n give_v we_o a_o copy_n of_o their_o petition_n or_o recantation_n offer_v to_o the_o bishop_n in_o the_o end_n of_o which_o they_o desire_v upon_o their_o repentance_n that_o these_o bishop_n will_v put_v the_o emperor_n in_o mind_n of_o they_o and_o let_v he_o know_v their_o intention_n and_o that_o they_o will_v please_v speedy_o to_o determine_v what_o they_o shall_v think_v expedient_a concern_v they_o 242._o they_o sozem._n histor_n lib._n 2._o cap._n 15._o p._n 242._o so_o that_o it_o be_v the_o bishop_n alone_a who_o can_v absolve_v they_o from_o the_o excommunication_n only_o since_o they_o be_v banish_v by_o the_o emperor_n authority_n he_o be_v to_o be_v request_v to_o take_v off_o that_o penalty_n which_o he_o lay_v on_o and_o to_o let_v they_o return_v to_o their_o church_n when_o the_o bishop_n have_v accept_v their_o repentance_n and_o take_v off_o the_o ecclesastical_a censure_n second_o he_o take_v much_o pain_n to_o prove_v the_o christian_a emperor_n from_o constantine_n time_n till_o gratian'ss_n viz._n for_o about_o 60_o year_n have_v the_o title_n and_o office_n of_o pontifices_fw-la maximi_fw-la and_o the_o supreme_a power_n in_o matter_n relate_v to_o religion_n and_o consequent_o he_o suppose_v the_o bishop_n must_v excommunicate_v by_o delegation_n from_o the_o emperor_n 188._o emperor_n seld._n ibid._n p._n 178._o ad_fw-la p._n 188._o for_o the_o title_n i_o shall_v easy_o grant_v that_o they_o bear_v it_o but_o his_o inference_n from_o it_o i_o must_v utter_o deny_v since_o there_o be_v not_o in_o all_o mr._n selden'_v read_v one_o line_n produce_v out_o of_o antiquity_n to_o show_v that_o the_o emperor_n do_v delegate_v this_o power_n to_o the_o bishop_n no_o edict_n no_o law_n nor_o rescript_n no_o historian_n ever_o mention_v such_o a_o thing_n no_o council_n no_o bishop_n be_v ever_o so_o grateful_a as_o to_o own_o this_o great_a favour_n so_o that_o it_o be_v a_o mere_a chimaera_n the_o bishop_n do_v excommunicate_a before_o constantine_n government_n and_o under_o it_o and_o after_o it_o in_o the_o same_o manner_n and_o as_o have_v be_v show_v even_o then_o declare_v their_o power_n be_v from_o god_n it_o be_v true_a the_o admit_v they_o to_o sit_v as_o judge_n in_o temporal_a cause_n be_v by_o delegate_v power_n from_o the_o emperor_n and_o therefore_o mr._n selden_n have_v produce_v many_o rescript_n to_o grant_v they_o that_o power_n but_o not_o one_o can_v he_o or_o any_o man_n ●●se_n find_v wherein_o the_o emperor_n give_v they_o power_n to_o excommunicate_v wherefore_o they_o have_v that_o power_n by_o a_o commission_n from_o christ_n three_o he_o mention_n those_o phrase_n in_o the_o imperial_a law_n wherein_o the_o heretic_n who_o deny_v the_o nicene_n faith_n be_v to_o be_v drive_v and_o remove_v from_o the_o threshold_n of_o all_o church_n and_o not_o to_o be_v permit_v to_o meet_v in_o any_o church_n to_o be_v forbid_v the_o communion_n of_o saint_n and_o exclude_v the_o public_a meeting_n etc._n etc._n 172._o etc._n seld._n synedr_n l._n i._o cap._n 10._o p._n 172._o which_o he_o will_v have_v to_o signify_v a_o imperial_a excommunication_n but_o the_o intelligent_a reader_n know_v that_o the_o bishop_n in_o council_n have_v first_o decree_v this_o excommunication_n and_o that_o by_o virtue_n of_o a_o express_a divine_a precept_n titus_n