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A93094 The famers fam'd or An answer, to two seditious pamphlets, the one intituled The just man in bonds, the other A pearle in a dunghill, written in the behalfe of that notorious lyar, and libeller John Lilburne. Also a full reply, with a confutation of certaine objections devised by the trayterous author of a seditious and unparraled [sic] libell, intituled A remonstrance of many thousand citizens, and other free borne people of England, to their owne House of Commons, &c. Wherein the wickednesse of the authors, and their abettors, the destructive courses of the sectaries, and their adherors is amply discovered. So that all (not wilfully blind) may cleerely see, that they are men stirred up by mans enemie, the Devill, as to ruine themselves, so this poore nation, that yet lies bedrid of her wounds lately received. And ought to be avoided as serpents, to be contemned as abjects, and to be delivered over to Satan, as blasphemers and reprobates. / Written by S. Shepheard. Sheppard, S. (Samuel) 1646 (1646) Wing S3163; Thomason E349_5; ESTC R201022 25,285 34

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that if any be already infected they may by reading my lines God willing receive present and perfect cure and it will be a preservative also to prevent the further spreading and encrease thereof Heare the Libeller We are well assured and ye cannot forget that our chusing you to be● Parliament Men was to deliver us from all kind of bondage and to preserve the Common-wealth in Peace and Happinesse for effecting whereof we possessed you with the same power that was in our selves to have done the same for we might have done it our selves without you if we bad thought so convenient chusing you as persons whom we thought fitly qualified and faithfull for avoiding some inconveniences What hath bereft you of your former confidence the wickednesse of your owne spirits will not suffer you to participate of that good which is providing the men ye have chosen have not failed to performe their duty in a Parliamentary way and God hath so aided them that they have outdone example the bondage were it a bondage you so sorely exclaim against is taken off and the peace and happinesse you seeme to desire there is great hopes to injoy had it not beene for your owne cursed Proceedings Lyings and Slandering the Authors of your Good you might have now beene in better state then you are and yee have shewed your selves unworthy of that Good got and gaining for you by your continuall Debates and Dangerous speeches and as if you were weary of mercies by threatning That if you have not all even to a tittle that your erring Fancies desire you will by your owne strength procure it Now whereas you Boast that had you thought it convenient yee your selves could have accomplisht your wish Vaine men though it be possible you may be of Abilitie sufficent to measu●e Cloth and to keepe a Booke your summes being vast and unknowne yet with BAKERS Ayde you can substract and multiply and give the Summa totalis yet to manage the Affairs of a Kingdome is too high for you and had not the HIGH-COMMISSION COURT beene suppressed till by you we might still have beene cited before a Judge bearing both Swords as before it hath alwayes beene the custom of wicked and ungratefull men such as your selves the good once attained to slight the procurers thereof did you want that you now have O how acceptable would the least of those mercies be of which yee now surfeit and yee ought to know that mercies abused are often by the Almightie turn'd into scourges for the smart of the wicked and ungratefull But how yee have dealt with us we shall now let you know and * 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 let the Righteous GOD Judge betmixt you and us the continuall oppressors of this Nation have been Kings which 〈◊〉 so evident that you cannot deny it Did you as you ought you would let them know how they had dealt with you by presenting your selves to them in all Humility and acknowledge with all Thankfulnesse that They have under God beene the preserve●● both of your lives and states but yee are an unstable wavering-minded people never contented in one state selfe-conceited you are and lea●e so much upon that broken staffe of Reed your wit that it will be a meanes at length even to pierce you through Rash you are and your Ignorance sputting you on yee affect Things Inconvenient and DESTRUCTIVE TO yours SELVES And whereas you say the continuall oppresso●●s of this Nation have beene KINGS I answer you commit a grievous sinne to averre ought contrary to your knowledge if yee have Read the Chronicles of this Kingdom you will find that the * 〈◊〉 Kings of this Isle and that for the major part have beene nursing Fathers and Mothers under whose peaceable and happy Government the people of this Land have sate each man under his figge tree praysing God and praying for their King If yee shall Aske what were the names of those KINGS so good and Gracious I answer before the Conquest many as EDMUND EDGAR ATHELSTANE c. Since the Conquest Henry the third Henry the fifth Henry the seaventh and his Son Henry the eighth Edward the sixth gracious * Queene Elizabeth King JAMES with divers others whom ●egina inarum for brevities sake I omit some of Them having augmented the Bounds of their Kingdome striving to make Their Nation glorious and great others have strove to maintaine what your forefathers have got executing Justice and Judgement and in truth never no Nation had more cause to boast of the Valour Pietie and good Government of their Kings then the English Nation nor hath our DREAD SOVERAIGN LORD KING CHARLES beene Inferiour to His Pious Predeceslours in the least respect who for the space of 17 yeares ere seduced by some pernicious and vile A Spencers Governed His People in Peace and under Him They ●lluding ●he Father the Son ●t Edward second so ●dly affect●● that he ●ooke the ●insell of Counsel●ts and was ●lly Ruled ●heir gid●ancies to unspeak● trouble ● vexation ●he whole ●lme Injoyed much Felicitie and so may againe this Prodigious and terrible storme o're-blown but let us returne to the Libeller And yet yee cannot fight for our Liberties but it must be in the name of KING and PARLIAMENT and He that speakes of His cruelties must be thrust out of your House your Preachers must pray for him as He had not deserved to be Excōmunicated all Christian societie or as if you or They thought that GOD were a Respecter of Persons in Judgement The Honourable Hcuses of Parliament esteeme it not a poynt of Libertie to Fight the Kings Battels and except His name the Royall Partie having perswaded the King to Destructive courses he ruled by them fought against His PARLIAMENT His Parliament to maintain the Libertie of the Subject their own Rights Priviledges and to Restore His Majestie to that honour and state He was in are seduced fight against those their opposers and is it not convenient for Them then He being the Head they the Members to have His name mentioned for whose honour They fight as for Their owne Rights Kings are but men and have Their passions and failings as well as others and moreover a great and weightie Burthen lyes on Their shoulders which Subjects doe not conceive and according to the Poet Crownes are but hives where stinging cares doe swarms Pompes but the whites where at fell envy shoots Which are as Trees whence grow their owners harme Harmes are the fruit Crownes Flowers Kingdoms Root The Arme of flesh is but a feeble Arme And in such strong extremes it little Boots He knowes not yet the Nature of a Crowne That knowes not Kings may be by strength o'ret hrowne And forasmuch as we are perswaded that those evill Counsellours were the onely cause and Fountaine whence our sorrowes have slowed and that we know and have cause to believe considering His Majesties frequent and pithy expressions His heartie desire of Compliance
THE FAMERS FAM'D OR AN ANSWER To two Seditious Pamphlets the one Intituled THE JUST MAN IN BONDS the other A PEARLE IN A DUNGHILL written in the behalfe of that notorious Lyar and Libeller JOHN LILBURNE Also a full reply with a confutation of certaine objections devised by the Trayterous Author of a Seditious and unparraled libell Intituled A REMONSTRANCE of many Thousand citizens and other free borne people of England to their own House of COMMONS c. Wherein the wickednesse of the Authors and their Abettors the destructive courses of the Sectaries and their Adherors is amply discovered So that all not wilfully blind may cleerely see that they are men stirred up by mans Enemie the Devill as to ruine themselves so this poore Nation that yet lies Bedrid of her wounds lately received And ought to be avoided as Serpents to be contemned as Abjects and to be delivered over to Satan as Blasphemers and Reprobates Likewise also these filthy Dreamers defile the flesh despise Dominion and speake evill of Dignities Jude ver 8. But these speake evill of these things which they know not but what they know naturally as bruit beasts in those things they corrupt themselves ver 10. Omnium malorum Stultitia est Mater Cicero Quid tam impium est quod mortalium Vulgus non admittat Demosthenes Written by S. SHEPHEARD London Printed for Iohn Hardesty at the Signe of the black-spread Eagle in Duke-Lane 1646. To The Right Honourable the house of Peers Assembled in PARLIAMENT Right Honourable YOu whose names are graven so deeply on the Bedrole of Fame that the rust of all devouring time shall never be able to eat or diminists a Letter Adulation and my nature are ods and I have the least to answer for that of all my Crimes yet it becomes the just to be thankfull and those that will not honour the Instruments of Gods Glory detract from their Maker First therefore all thankes be rendred to your honours for your constant fidelity to your Country that you would not degenerate but choose rather to be afflicted with Gods people then to injoy the pleasures of sinne for aseason that you would be pleased to under goe Callumnies and the * Traytors Brand of infamie the subjects of this Kingdome cannot chuse but mutually joyne with me as once the women in the dance andsay many Peeres have done worthy deeds for the good of the people but ye have exceeded them all undergoing the frowne of Majestie which who so lookes on sees a Basilisk and seldome escapeth Death venturing your Estates wherein some men place their Summum Bonum and many of you your lives to purchase Freedome for a people altogether ungratefull I say not so but some men furnisht with corrupted mindes whom satan hath filled with the spirit of Enmitie and Detraction to the griefe of my soule and of all the least vertuous with their pennes like so many sharpened Pikes as Saul once to David his Preserver they stab at their deliverers men that are as unconstant as the wind more foolish then Claudius more wicked then Stajus who place their felicity in that to be avoyded City-racer Mutabilitie some of whose seurrilous Emptie Pamphlets coming to my hands I conceived I was bound in honour to my Maker and in thankfulnesse to your Honours to Reply to the said Pamphlets for these ravenous Fowles the People are naturally inclined with greedinesse to swallow whole Gobbets of such carion though they surfet themselves thereby and are often forced for it to be let bloud Thus desiring that great God who hath greatly assisted your Honours hithereto to keepe you for ever untouched by your Enemies I cease and shall ever remaine Your Honours most humble Servant S. S. THE FAMERS FAM'D IF a Commander doe faithfull service for a space and afterward revolteth and fighteth against that cause which erst he maintained must the memory of his former Service hinder the course of Justice surely no if Lievtenant Colonell Lilburne sometime an obscure Apprentice in London have formerly done Acts for his Countrey worthy acceptance though it may be evidently proved the maine reason why he accepted of the Parliaments Service was not so much out of an affection he bare to the Parliament and their cause as to protect himselfe against his creditors Arrests I say is he therefore to be excused if he degenerate and become an open and profest Enemie to that state whose cause hee erst seemed so stiff●y to maintaine Was there ever Papist Malignant Royalist or Cavaleer did demeane himselfe so libellously slanderously contemptuously and ungratefully to the Parliament as this Lilburne hath done and indeed the man understandeth not what he speaketh nor whereof he affirmes he hath erred from the truth and is now turned unto vaine Ianglings not knowing the end of the Commandement is love 1 Tim. Chapter 1. Which commands him not to Raile on Dignities and speake evill of Governments this is the man and that the first that findeth fault and proclaimeth it a breach of Magna Charta which himself had yet never Law enough to understand because he was cited to come before Authority before he was acquainted with his Accuser or accusation whereas the meanest capacities know that there is nothing more usuall then for Judges Justices and all superior or inferior Offices or Courts of the Realme upon credible information not onely to Summon but to Attach men by Constables and other Officers to appeare before them to answer such matters as shall be objected against them and this none ever deemed Lilburne excepted to be illegall or contrary to Magna Charta or the Subjects Liberty and shall not the Parliament the Supreamest of all Courts claime and have the same Priviledge that under and inferior Courts enjoy this superbious most egregious malapert upstart Lilburne whom Satan so often as he listeth inciteth and prompteth to compile seditious Pamphlets destructive to the Peace of the Kingdome this man out of his private spleene to Colonell Edward King a man under whom once he served wrote a scandalous Pamphlet wherein he taxeth the said King for a betrayer of the trust reposed in him by the Parliament that through his default many Townes of worth became a prey to the Enemy with divers other which were notoriously knowne to be false and suborned in the same Pamphlet he Rayleth against the Lawes terming them Norman Innovations with many other strange and unparreleld speeches all which he sent to Judge Reeve who himselfe or some other for him made a complaint to the Lords who Immediately summoned the Libeller before them their warrant this Die Mercurii 10 Iune 16. 1646. It is this day ordered by the Lords in Parliament Assembled that Leivtenant Colonell Lilburne shall forth with upon sight hereof appeare before the Lords in Parliament to answer such things as he stands charged with before their Lordships concerning a Pamphlet Intituled The just mans justification or a Letter by way of Plea in Barre and
that they have not in all things their swinge and sway that they could wish out of vengeance the Kingdome were on fire while they warmed themselves by the light on t and therefore they leave no projects unattempted no Falsities unsaid to raise Discord and Division And to make his argument invincible as he supposeth he insinuateth that maine ground of this more then unnaturall Warre was to abolish illegall and tyrannicall power which is most true but doth it therefore follow that we having cut the throat of Innovation should forsake the worship of God or that ' cause we have crushed to pieces Aristocraticall or Tyrannicall power we should not now make use either of Law or Justice GOD FORBID If yee did intend to expose this Kingdome to the miseries of war for no other end but that one kind of Arbitrary government Star-obamber Chamber and High-commission power might be abolished and others of that kind established over us why would ye not tell us that we might have both spared our lives and estates Now steeres the Pamphleter another course more irregular then before now he exclaimeth on the house of Commons that they did not give advertisement that having puld down one Arbitrary power they would erect another the rancorous and evill minde of the Pamphleter how many waies trieth he to worke contention and confusion because Lilburne is not countenanced in his pernicious waies as he hath been formerly too too much now they are netled to the purpose and they care not what they affirme and therefore forsooth the House of Commons ' cause they not opposed the House of Lords in their legall tryall and just censure of Lilburne are taxed that though they have abolished one kind of Arbitrary power they are props of another and therefore the trayterous Pamphleter seemeth to lament that they had not more timely notice thereby to have prevented the great effussion of blood and losse of their estates All these questions and affirmations had not been thought on had JOHN LILBURNE been walking abroad But if ye would either free your selves from suspition or us of these just fears then shew your selves such Worthies as doe truely deserve the title by using this happy opportunity which God hath put into your hands and making us Free men it being the maine cause for which we used and intrusted you and as a present signe of your fidelity and magnanimity let all your reall intentions in the generall appeare by the exactnes and speedinesse of your delivery of your own and his Countries saithfull servant JOHN LILBURNE from prison with all due reparations I told you before the cause of all this trouble in print was for * Namely Lilburnes b● soundly ch● sed for his orbitancy his slande● and lies 〈◊〉 stir●ing up people both words and 〈◊〉 to Re●●●lion agains● PARLI●MENT 〈◊〉 God 〈◊〉 preservers Lilburnes imprisonment which here the Pamphleter plainly confesseth and saith that if they will cleare themselves of the feares the Pamphleter and his complices hath that then they should set at liberty Lieut. Col. LILBURNE And then all Acts for the good of the Subject are ratified and confirmed and then they shall truely deserve the title of Worthies and be Worthies indeed Into what a further labyrinth of misery were poor England involved if the Parliament should allow and take the advice of these malevolent Idiots certainly although we are greatly impoverished and brought low then we should not faile to become the most wretched and abject people in the world which evill God divert An answer to a seditious Pamphlet lately in print entituled * A PEARL IN A DVNGHILL Written in Defence of that famous Libeller Li●ut Col. LILBURNE SUre the Author of that Dunghill * piece before answered was ●he just man ●onds the Author also of this scurrilous Pamphlet entituled A Pearle in a Dunghill save that this is a little more finely spun then the other He begins thus ●o be 〈◊〉 in an ill se is wo●s●●n cower Although most States and Statesmen be of late turnd upside downe like a wheel● yet this worthy * valiant and publique spirited Gentleman unto whom this Nation is as much bound to at least as unto any one all things considered is the very same man both in principles and practice Rom● wa● 〈◊〉 whom the Bishops so long imprisoned in the Fleet by a most cruell and barbarous censure caused to be weary of his life which censure they procured in the Star-chamber against him and so he was whipt gag'd and pinni●n'd and in his close imprisonment almost famished and murthered This this is the man that thinketh he indeed hath proved and that with one Argument of Lilburnes quondam sufferings that he hath been faithfull to God and his Countrey to the death in times past and in the same stedfastnesse remaineth to this day now therefore that his Country may see and know how deeply they stand ingaged to the said Lilburne let us search diligently and shew First the eminency of the party the sufferer Secondly the cause of his so suffering Thirdly the quality of the paine suffered The discovery hereof I know he will exclaime against and say it is a breach of MAGNA CHARTA according to his wonted manner First then for the eminency of his person we must know that it is even JOHN LILBURNE during his minority an Apprentice of London and being of an insinuating spirit he ende●red himselfe and wan the love of some silly Schismaticks who for his strange yet empty expressions deemed him one inspired So that by that time he came out of his time and had served his apprentiship who but Lilburne of note amongst the Sectaries his approbation desired and his counsels followed in all things Secondly the cause of his suffering during the imprisonment of Doctor Bastwicke by the rigorous censure of the Prelates divers persons affecting the said Doctor out of their love resorting to him amongst the rest one of them tooke John Lilburne with him as his associate after plenty of cheere Dr Bastwick to solace his guests read to them his merry * A Book● laying 〈◊〉 the pride 〈◊〉 leachery 〈◊〉 abominal 〈◊〉 acts of the 〈◊〉 ●●ts in 〈◊〉 Lettany which highly pleased them all Lilburne also hearing the said Lettany read and knowing that Whatsoever was written in defiance of that power then generally hated would be very acceptable he desired of Dr Bastwick to have a copy of one of them with which he would travell beyond Sea and cause it to be printed not doubting to be enriched by it the winde of this fancie transported him over Sea accompanied with a fellow whose fidelity he doubted not there he printed many Bookes and by them got much money selling them even at what rates he pleased afterwards comming into England bringing with him many Bookes hoping to have a new Mart the fellow that accompanied him was his betrayer who gave information to the then * William 〈◊〉
Commons in Parliament have done this to wit SHUT UP THE PRESSE They have not hearkned to their counsels but go on to make themselves Lords over them I● SATAN CAST OUT SATAN HOW SHALL HIS KINGDOME STAND see the simplicity of the Libeller should the COMMONS GO ABOUT TO ABRIDGE THE COMMONS LIBERTY should they not thereby limit themselves and goe about to procure their owne bondage Reason will perswade all men the contrary but let us still trace the Libeller who now is arrived at the height of impudencie You have now sate full five yeeres which is foure longer then we intended for we could c●use you but at most for one yeer and now we wish you would publish to the world the good you have done for us the liberty yee have brought us unto if you could excuse your selves as you use to doe it hath been a time of Warre for when the warre in the beginning might have been prevented if yee had drawne a little more blood from the right veyne and might often ere this have been ended Now the House of Commons as the Remonstrators promise in the * Thus cal●g those ●eir Comissioners in ●arliament to 〈◊〉 account ●●w they since ●e beginning 〈◊〉 their Sessi● to the pre●nt have dis●arged their ●●●ties to the ●liver sality the people title of their Libell are called to an account THE COURSE OF ORDER IS CLEAN PERVERTED WHEN THE SUBJECT SHALL CENSURE THE MAGISTRATE yet such is the pride and impudence of some that they dare doe it see here the House of Commons are taxed that they have sat five yeeres just foure more then was intended why then it should seeme that these men thought at once to throw downe and set up to extirpate and Reforme in one day or at least in one yeare as here they seeme to intimate whereas it is and will be recorded a wonder to posterity that so glorious a Reformation being so strongly and fervently opposed should be gained confirmed and setting up and in the space of six yeeres But it is desired they should publish to the world the good they have done the Liberty they have gained Doth not your consciences informe you that that is gained for you which some yeares since yee durst not wish to attaine and whereas you affirme that if a right course at first had been taken the warre had e●e this bin ended and you give your judgement by what meanes it might have been accomplisht viz. if a little blood more had bin drawne from the right veyne At the beginning of this Warre blood was drawne and too much if it might have been saved with safety and though DESPERATE WOUNDS aske a DESPERATE CURE yet to be too sanguine is not good and if some were spared that deserved death LENITY shall be rewarded if used with a good intent but I see your choller rageth within you that one was exempted of which thing I tremble to thinke For sake and utterly renounce all crafty and subtill intentions hide not your thoughts from us and give us encouragement to be open-breasted unto you Proclaime before-hand what you intend to doe establishing any thing for the future and heare all things that can be spoken with or against the same Now is held forth in each hand full cups both of sweet water and bitter first the House of Commons is advised to renounce all crafty and subtle intentions I told you before whatsoever they conclude on to the prejudice of the Subject they surely detract from themselves and then insinuation is used and the utter ruine of Parliaments desired to wit when they wish the House not to hide their thoughts from them but to give them encouragement to be open-breasted to them meaning that they should in all matters use their advice which thing if assented to what prejudice it would be what inconveniencies would thereby be occasioned let the Reader judge And without doubt the penner of this REMONSTRANCE was an ANABAPTIST as may appeare by the ensuing words Proclaime before-hand what yee intend to doe establishing any thing for the future ☞ and heare any thing that can be spoken with o● against the same What hurly-burly would be amongst the multitude of Weavers and Mechanicks sitting in counsell together about State affaires while they argue pro and con O madnesse shall the supreame Councell Decree Order and Ratifie and then come and desire your advice Doth not your folly shame you and your ignorance cause you to blush Now if you shall conscionably perform your trust then wee shall not doubt to be made * You know not wherein freedome co●sists Free-men and become a Iust Plenteous and Powerfull Nation all that is lost will be forgotten and wee shall yet have cause to rejoyce in your Wisdomes and Fidelities Ye are a people that if a Flye fall in your dish you will unadvisedly cast away the whole messe of meat though for hunger yee afterwards pine It is apparent to all the world that the PARLIAMENT have conscionably performed their duty now performe ye yours also which is first to give thankes to God for his great mercies and then to shew your affection and hearty love to the Instruments of his Glory And wheras you say that if your desires were fulfilled then being absolute Free-men you should in time become a Just Plenteous and powerfull Nation You intimate in saying wee the desires of the whole Nation wherey your unparalel'd presumption is manifest How dare ye being but a part of a part if a part at all taxe direct and advise the High Court of Parliament and not contented to expresse your ungratefulnesse to your preservers you would involve the whole Kingdome also in your Labyrinth of errours and for your owne parts had ye your wish in all things it were impossible thereby that yee should become plenteous or potent for if in a time of trouble and calamity when yee expected each day to be ruina●ed yee demeaned your selves wickedly against God and your Magistrates would yee not be farre worse having your wish and living at ease mans nature being more apt to bee * in●●ared by the fruits of Prosperity and joy then by the Maris ecelice temperiem ●rbincs tem●statesque com●endant habe●●●s vices con●tio mortali●●●t adversa cundis versis secur●● nascantur-●cultat utro-●mque semina ●●eus ple●mque bono●m malo●m cause sub versa specie ●ent Flin in 〈◊〉 Trajan Adversity frownes of * sorrow The Author of this Libell concludeth like a Saint having railed before like a Furey and for their more powerfull efficacie he useth the words of Samuel PROSCRIPT Moreover as for me God forbid that I should sin against the Lord in ceasing to pray for you but I would teach you the good and the right way onely feare the Lord and serve him in truth with all your heart consider what great things he hath done for you but if yee still doe wickedly yee shall be consumed both ye and your King But know Sir That the righteousnesse of the upright shall deliver them but transgressors shall be taken in their owne snare PROV Imprimatur JOH DOWNAME