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A83414 A remonstrance or The declaration of the Lords and Commons, now assembled in Parliament, 26. of May. 1642. In answer to a declaration under His Majesties name concerning the businesse of Hull, sent in a message to both houses the 21. of May, 1642 ... England and Wales. Parliament.; Elsynge, Henry, 1598-1654. 1642 (1642) Wing E2227B; ESTC R222786 18,138 16

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of Parliament And because the Advice of both Houses of Parliament hath through the suggestions of evill Councellors been so much undervalued of late and so absolutely rejected and refused wee hold it fit to declare unto the Kingdome whose honour and interest is so much concerned in it what is the priviledge of the great Councell of Parliament herein and what is the Obligation that lyeth upon the Kings of this Realme to passe such Bills as are offered unto them by both Houses of Parliament in the name and for the good of the whole Kingdome whereunto they stand ingaged both in conscience and in justice to give their royall assent In conscience in respect of the Oath that is or ought to be taken by the KINGS of this Realme at their CORONATION as well to confirme by their Royall assent such good Lawes as their people shall choose and to remedy by Law such inconveniences as the Kingdom may suffer as to keepe and protect the Lawes already in being as may appeare both by the forme of the Oath upon Record and in bookes of good Authoritie and by the Statute of the 25. Edw. 3. entituled the Statute of Provisors of Benefices the forme of which Oath and the cause of that Statute concerning are as followeth Rot. Parl. 1. H. 4. N. 17. 2. Forma juramenti soliti consueti praestari per Reges Angliae in eorum Coronatione Servabis Ecclesiae Dei Cleroque populo pacem ex integro concordiam in Deo secundum vires tuas Respondebit Servabo Facies fieri in omnibus judicis tuis equam rectam justitiam discretionem in misericordid lenitate secundum vires tuas Respondebit Faciam Concedis justas leges consuetudines esse tenendas permittis per te eas esse protegendas ad honorem Dei corroborandas quas vulgus elegerit secundum vires tuas Respondebit Concedo permitto Adijcianturque praedictis interrogationibus quae justa fuerint pernunciat isque omnibus confirmet Rex se omnia servaturum sacramento super altare praestito coram cunctis A Clause in the Preamble of a Statute made 25. Edw. 3. Entituled the Statute of Provisors of Benefices Whereupon the said Commons have prayed our said Lord the King that sith the right of the Crowne of England and the Law of the said Realme is such that upon the mischiefes and damages which happen to his Realme he ought and is bound by hid Oath with the accord of his people in his Parliament thereof to make remedy and Law and in removing the mischiefes and damages which thereof ensue that it may please him thereupon to ordaine remedy Our Lord the King seeing the mischiefes and damages before-mentioned and having regard to the said Statute made in the time of his said Grandfather and to the causes contained in the same which Statute holdeth alwayes his force and was never defeated repealed nor adnulled in any point and by so much he is bounden by his Oath to cause the same to be kept as the Law of his Realme though that by sufferance and negligence it hath been sithence attempted to the contrary also having regard to the grievous complaints made to him by his people in divers His Parliaments holden heretofore willing to ordaine remedy for the great damages and mischiefes which have hapned and daily do happen to the Church of England by the said cause Here the Lords and Commons claime it directly as the right of the Crowne of England and of the Law of the Land and that the King is bound by his Oath with the accord of his people in Parliament to make remedy and Law upon the mischiefes and damages which happen to this Realme and the King doth not deny it although he take occasion from a Statute formerly made by his Grandfather which was layd as part of the grounds of this Petition to fixe his Answer upon another branch of his Oath and prefermits that which is claimed by the Lords and Commons which he would not have done if it might have been excepted against In justice they are obliged thereunto in respect of the trust reposed in them which is aswell to preserve the Kingdome by the making of new Lawes where there shall be need as by the observing of Lawes already made A Kingdome being many times as much exposed to ruine for the want of a new Law as by the violation of those that are in being and this is so cleare a right that no doubt His Majesty will acknowledge it to be as due unto his people as his protection but how farre forth he is obliged to follow the judgement of his Parliament therein that is the question And certainly besides the words in the Kings Oath referring unto such Lawes as the people shall chuse as in such things which concerne the Publique Weale and good of the Kingdome they are the most proper Judges who are sent from the whole Kingdome for that very purpose so wee doe not finde that since Lawes have passed by way of Bills which are read thrice in both Houses and committed and every part and circumstance of them fully weighed and debated upon the commitment and afterwards passed in both Houses that ever the Kings of this Realme did deny them otherwise then is expressed in that usuall Answer Le Roy savisera which signifies rather a suspension then a refusall of the Royall Assent and in those other Lawes which are framed by way of Petitions of Right the Houses of Parliament have taken themselves to be so farre Judges of the Rights claimed by them that when the Kings answer hath not in every point been fully according to their desire they have still insisted upon their claime and never rested satisfied till such time as they had an answer according to their owne demand as was done in the late Petition of Right and in former times upon the like occasion and if the Parliament be Judge between the King and his people in the Question of Right as by the manner of the claime in Petitions of Right and by Judgements in Parliament in Cases of illegall Impositions and Taxes and the like it appeareth to be why should they not be so also in the question of the common good and necessitie of the Kingdome wherein the Kingdome hath as cleere a right also to have the benefit and remedy of Law as in any thing whatsoever and yet we doe not deny but in private Bills and also in publick Acts of Grace as Pardons and the like grants of favour His Majestie may have a greater latitude of granting or denying as he shall thinke fit All this considered we cannot but wonder that the Conniver of this Message should conceive the people of this Land to be so voyd of common sense as to enter into so deep a mistrust of those that they have and his Majesty ought to repose so great a trust in as to despaire of any securitie in their private
Estates by Discents Purchases Assurances or Conveyances unlesse His Majesty should by his Vote prevent the prejudice they might receive therein by the Votes of both Houses of Parliament As if they who are especially chosen and entrusted for that purpose and who themselves must needs have so great a share in all grievances of the Subject had wholly cast off all care of the Subjects good and His Majesty had solely taken it up And as if it could be imagined that they should by their Votes overthrow the rights of Discents Purchases or of any Conveyance or Assurance in whose judgement the whole Kingdome hath placed all their particular Interesses if any of them should be called in question in any of those Cases that as knowing not where to place them with greater securitie without any appeale from them to any other person or Court whatsoever But indeed we are very much to seeke how the case of Hull should concerne Discents and Purchases or Conveyances and Assurances unlesse it be in procuring more securitie to men in their private Interesses by the preservation of the whole from confusion and destruction and much lesse doe wee understand how the Soveraigne Power was resisted and despised therein Certainly no command from His Majestie and his high Court of Parliament where the Soveraigne Power resides was disobeyed by Sir John Hotham nor yet was his Maiesties Authoritie derived out of any other Court nor by any legall Commission or by any other way wherein the Law hath appointed His Majesties commands to be derived to his Subjects and of what validitie his verball Commands are without any such stamp of his Authoritie upon them and against the order of both Houses of Parliament whether the not submitting thereunto be a resisting and despising of the Soveraigne Authoritie we leave it to all men to judge that doe at all understand the government of this Kingdome We acknowledge that His Majesty hath made many expressions of his zeale and intentions against the desperate designes of Papists but yet it is also as true that the Counsells which have prevailed of late with him have been little sutable to those expressions and intentions For what doth more advance the open and bloudy designe of the Papists in Ireland whereon the secret plots of the Papists here do in likelihood depend then His Majesties absenting himselfe in that manner that he doth from his Parliament and setting forth such sharpe Invectives against them notwithstanding all the humble Petitions and other meanes which his Parliament hath addressed unto him for his returne for his satisfaction concerning their proceedings And what was more likely to give a rise to the designes of Papists whereof there are so many in the North neare to the Towne of Hull and of other malignant ill-affected persōs which are ready to joyn with them or to the attempts of forrainers from abroad than the continuing of that great Magazin at Hull at this time and contrary to the desire and advice of both Houses of Parliament So that we have too much cause to beleeve that the Papists have still some way and means whereby they have influence upon his Majesties Councells for their owne advantage For the Malignant party his Majesty needeth not a definitiō of the Law nor yet a more full Character of them from both Houses of Parliament for to finde them out if he will please only to apply the Character that himselfe hath made of them to those unto whom it doth properly truly belong who are so much disaffected to the peace of the Kingdom as they that endeavour to disaffect his Majesty from the Houses of Parliament and perswade him to be at such a distance from them both in place and affection Who are more dis-affected to the government of the Kingdome than such as lead his Majesty away from harkning to his Parliament which by the constitution of this Kingdom is his greatest best Councell perswade him to follow the malicious councels of some private men in opposing and contradicting the wholsome advices just proceedings of that his most faithfull Councell and highest Court Who are they that not onely neglect and despise but labour to undermine the Law under colour of maintaining of it But they that indevour to destroy the fountaine and Conservatory of the law which is the Parliament and who are they that set up other Rules for themselves to walke by then such as are according to Law but they that will make other Iudges of the Law then the Law hath appoynted and so dispence with their obedience to that which the Law calleth Authoritie and to their determinations and resolutions to whom the Iudgement doth appertaine by Law For when private persons shall make the Law o be their Rule according to their own understandings contrary to the judgement of those that are competent Iudges thereof they set up unto themselves other Rules than the Law doth acknowledge Who these persons are none knoweth better than his Majestie himselfe And if he will please to take all possible caution of them as destructive to the Common wealth and himselfe and would remove them from about him it would be the most effectuall meanes to compose all the destractions and to cure the distempers of this Kingdome For the Lord Digby his le ter we did not make mention of it as a ground to hinder his Majestie from visiting his own fort but we appeale to the judgement of any indifferent man that shall read that Letter and compare with the posture that his Majestie then did and still doth stand in towards the Parliament and with the circumstances of that late action of his Majestie in going to Hull whether the Advisor of that Iourney intended only a visit of that fort and Magazin as to the wayes and overtures accommodation and the meffage of the 20 of Ianuary last so often pressed but still in vaine as is alledged Our Answere is that although so often as the 20. of Ianuarie hath been pressed so often have our priviledges been cleerly infringed that a way and method of proceeding should be prescribed unto us as well for the setling of his Majesties Revene as for the presedting of our desires a thing which in former Parliaments hath alwayes been excepted against as a breach of priviledge pet in respect of the matter contained in that message and out of our earnest desire to beget a good understanding between his Majestie and us we swallowed down all matters of Circumstance and had ere this time presented the chief of our desires to his Majestie had we not been inrerrupted with continuall Denyalls even of those things that were necessary for our present security and subsistance and had not those denyalls been followed with perpetuall Invectives against us and our proceedings and had not those invectives been beaped upon us so thick one after another who were already in a manner wholly taken up with the pressing affaires of this Kingdome