disposed of as his Maiesty will direct 3. To the third they say that so much of the profits therein mentioned as grew dew since the seventh day of August 1641. on which day happened that inforced and fatall adjournement of the parliament from whence all the distractions of this kingdome did spring as was received by the said Confederate Catholickes and many an hundred times more was by them imployed and expended in his Maiesties service for the defence of the kingdome And the said profits for the time to come after a full setlement are to be disposed by such hands as his Maiestie shall thinke fit 4. To the fourth they say that the free gift granted to his Maiestie by the said Confederate Catholickes is already over-payed as shall be made appeare upon account by the supreme Counsell of the said Confederate Catholickes to whom that affaire is intrusted 5. To the fifth they say that the Portes of VVaterford and Rosse being within the quarters of the said Confederate Catholicks by the Articles of Cessation they have according the said articles received the profits accruing out of the customes of those portes and imployed the same in his Maiesties service and defence of the kingdome 6. 7. The matters contayned in the sixt and seventh Demands are properly to be determined in such manner as shal be agreed upon in the conclusion of this treatie And what further concernes the said demands or the matters in them or any of them contayned wee conceive proper for a debate to bee determined upon conclusion of the treaty The said Confederate Catholickes doe referre their answers to the demands made on the behalfe of the protestant Clergy to the first of the propositions presented by them And to the debate and determination thereof Answers to the Demands made on the behalfe of His Maiesties Protestant subjects 1. TO the first the said Confederate Catholicks doe answer that after a full setlement of affaires reciprocall restitution is to be made aswell to the said Confederate Catholickes and every of them as also to his Maiesties said protestant subiects and to every of them other then such of the said protestants as are or shal be joyned in a rebellious covenant against his Maiesty or adhere to the malignant party of their respective Castles Lordships Mannors hereditaments and Chattels reall whereof they were respectively seised or possessed on the 22. of October 1641. within the quarters allotted to eyther party by the articles of Cessation And other then the Castles Lordships Mannors and hereditaments in the county of VVicklow and in the Territory of Idough out of which the Natives thereof were by an high and injurious hand or extrajudiciall arbitrary proceedings expulsed since the yeare of our Lord God 1633. 2. 3. 4. To the second third and fourth they say that the said Confederate Catholickes are much more â—â—mnified therein then the said protestants And yet in regard the same may beget many endlesse suites troubles they conceive they are fit to be seriously debated and finally ended upon the setlement 5. To the fifth they answer that they know of no Forte or Castle that was demolished contrary to articles And when the particulars shall appeare they will give particular answers 6. To the sixt they say that the Confederate Catholicks doe receive no profit of their estates detayned from them wherefore they conceive it not equall that the protestants should receive the profits of their estates untill after setlement and then the profits of both estates are to be reciprocally received by all parties respectively in such manner as shal be agreed upon Reasons why His Majesties said Roman Catholicke subjects are not satisfied with the answers delivered them by his Excellencie the Lord Marques of Ormond Lord Lieutenant of Ireland his Majesties Commissioner to certaine Propositions by them presented to his Lordship on the fourth of September in the twentieth yeare of his Majesties raigne IN asmuch as most of the reasons declaring how the said answers are not satisfactory doe appeare eyther in the said propositions themselves or in the reasons afterwards in the moneth aforesaid presented to your Lordship setting forth the necessity of the said propositions to avoyd reiteration what is in the said propositions or reasons expressed is herein omitted It is therfore huÌ„bly desired that your Lordship in your consideration of the reasons now presented will distinctly apart reflect upon the said former propositions reasons The said Catholickes upon exact scrutiny and search by them Reasons against the first Answer made of their consciences and actions finding nothing more desired by the one nor aymed at by the other next to the homage which they owe to the King of kings then the advancement of his Maiesties service the setling of a full peace quiet in this his kingdome of Ireland they do therfore with heavinesse of heart apprehend some expressions in the first answer viz. If the said Roman Catholicke subiects shall by their obedience and loyaltie merit his Maiesties favour and protection whereas the said Roman Catholickes are as obedient loyall subiects to his Maiesty as any other his subiects without exception whereas their thoughts or actions have never deserved to put them out of his Maiesties protection yet the occasion of their said apprehenhensions they may not ascribe to your Excellency who is intrusted by his Maiesty with the acting directing part in this great affaire now in Treaty but unto some instrumentall cause or other mistake And as to the rest of the said first answer viz. That when all demands made by your Lordship unto the said Catholicks in his Maiesties behalfe or on the behalfe of the protestant Clergte and on the behalfe of his Maiesties protestant subiects are concluded and vpon such merit as is before expressed the said Catholickes shall not have cause to complaine that lesse moderation is used then in the most favourable of Queene Elizabeth or King Iames his times and his Maiestie will be further advised upon the repeale of the statutes made against the said Catholickes Although the said Roman Catholickes are most confident of his Maiesties grace and goodnesse yet so great is the penalty imposed by statutes of force in this kingdome extending to the goods estates liberties lives and corruption of bloud of the said Catholicks that they must live in restlesse feares so long as those extreme punishments hang over them and in case his Maiesty by Letters-patents under his great seale or otherwise will declare his Royall pleasure against the execution of those statutes upon the said Catholickes yet those feares will hardly be removed thereby such is the malice of the malignant party who have vowed the totall destruction of the said Catholickes that their adherents here though not knowne to be such will never want will and cannot want opportunity sufficient to indict the said Catholicks upon the said statutes the Iudges before whom the said indictments are found by
tyranny and oppression or that any tyranny or oppression hath been exercised upon his subjects in that Kingdome However his Maiestie will take care that such Governors shall not continue longer in chose places then hee shall find for the good of his people there and is content that they shall bee inhibited to make any purchase other then by lease for the provision of their Houses during the space of their Goverment in such manner as is desired 15. This proposition is to be explayned and some particular wayes to bee proposed to his Maiestie for the doing thereof And then his Maiestie upon due consideration of the safety and security of his Protestant Subiects will returne his Answer 16. Answered in the fourth and fifth 17. Such persons who shall be excepted out of the Act of Oblivion shall bee tryed by the knowne Lawes of the Land The Answer of IAMES Marques of Ormond His Majesties Commissioner for the treaty and concluding of a Peace in this Kingdome for and in the name and behalfe of His Majestie to the Propositions of His Roman Catholicke subjects of Ireland VVHen all the particular demands made on the behalfe of his Majestie the Church and his Majesties Protestant subjects and their party shall be concluded his Maiestie will bee graciously pleased on his part to agree to the particulars hereafter expressed viz. 1. To the first proposition his Majestie will bee graciously pleased if his said Roman Catholicke subjects shall by their obedience and loyaltie merit his Majesties favour and protection that they shall not for the future have cause to complaine that lesse moderation is used towards them then hath been in the most favourable of Queene Elizabeth King Iames his times But his Maiestie for divers waighty considerations will further advise before hee consent to the repeale of any the Acts intended by the said Proposition 2. To the second his Majestie will bee graciously pleased to call a new Parliament upon condition that all particulars therein to bee passed by act of Parliament be first agreed on betweene us his Majesties Commissioner and Donogh Lord Viscount Muskery Alexandermac Donell and Nicholas Plunket Esquiers Sir Robert Talbot Baronet Dermot O Brien Patricke Darcy Geffrey Browne and Iohn Dillon Esquiers or any five or more of them who are deputed by his said Roman Catholicke subjects to treate with Vs about the same And the said Acts so agreed upon bee transmitted according to severall acts of parliament in that behalfe provided And that there shall be no attempt by his Majesties Roman Catholicke subjects in that parliament to passe any other act then what is agreed upon as aforesaid and first transmitted or to bring any other prejudice to any of his Maiesties protestant subiects in this kingdome And if any thing shall be attempted in the said parliament to the contrarie that then his Maiesties Lieutenant or other Chiefe Governor or Governors before whom the said parliament shall be holden shall forthwith after such attempt dissolve the said Parliament without expecting any further direction from his Majestie for the same But his Majestie for divers waightie considerations will bee further advised before that he doe consent to the suspension of Poynings Act. 3. To the third his Majestie will be graciously pleased that none of his said Roman Catholicke subjects shall suffer any prejudice by any Acts or Ordinances passed in this present Parliament since the time in the Proposition mentioned by reason of the present commotion but his Majestie cannot legally declare Acts or Ordinances made in Parliament which are in themselves lawfull to be voyde nor give warrant to take them off the file 4. To the fourth his Majestie cannot in course of Iustice by his Proclamation declare indictments attaintures out-lawries Letters-patents Grants Leases Bonds Recognizances or any other legall record to be voyde or taken off the file But his Majestie will be graciously pleased to grant a full and Generall pardon to all persons whatsoever excepting such as hereafter upon this treaty shal be thought fit to be left thereout for all Treasons rebellions and other crimes whatsoever growing and arising for or by reason of the same And will likewise give his consent that an act bee passed to that purpose in which his Majestie will admit any clauses to enlarge his mercy And his Majestie will be further graciously pleased to determine all custodiums which have beene granted since the 22. of October 1641. 5. To the fift proposition his Majesty cannot in Iustice consent to the taking away of any debts due to his subjects who have committed no offence which might occasion the forfeyture thereof But for such debts as have accrued unto his Majestie by the attaynture or fugacie of any of his Majesties Roman Catholicke subjects since the 23. of October 1641. His Majestie will be graciously pleased to remit so many of them as have not beeen payed into his Majesties Exchequer or received otherwise to his Maiesties use or by his appointment 6. To the sixt proposition his Maiesty will be graciously pleased to release and quite his right to all such lands in the said proposition mentioned except within the Counties of Kilkenny and Wickloe upon the Termes formerly assented unto by his Maiestie in his answer to the grievances in the 17. yeare of his raigne and will consent to such an act of limitation as is desired 7. To the seventh his Maiesty will be graciously pleased to consent to an act for the taking away any incapacitie as Natives eyther to lands or offices if any such there be and will willingly consent to the erecting of an Innes of Court Vniversitity or free-schooles Provided that they be governed by such statutes rules and orders as his Maiesty shall approve and be agreable to the Customes of England 8. To the eight his Maiesty will be graciously pleased that such of his Maiesties said subiects within this kingdome as shall manifest their dutie and affection to his Maiesty shall receive such markes of his Maiesties favour in offices and places of trust as shall manifest his Maiesties good acceptance and regarde of them 9. To the ninth proposition his Maiestie will take care that his good subiects of this kingdome shall not be oppressed by his Court of Wards And if oppressions of that kinde have beene upon good and due information his Maiesty will cause Iustice to be done for the time past and for the future will prevent the like by instructions But for the taking away of that Court his Majesty can make no answer till the particulars for his satisfaction bee set downe and presented unto him 10. To the tenth Proposition his Majestie consented as farre as is fit for him in this point in his answer to the 25 grievance in the seventeenth yeare of his raigne the which hee is still willing shal be enacted looking forwards still to five yeares to begin after the peace concluded 11. To the eleventh Proposition his Majesty conceives the substance
vote in the said parliament by proxie or otherwise and none admitted to the house of Commons but such as shall be estated and resident within the Kingdome 11. That an act be passed in the next parliament declaratorie that the parliament of Ireland is a free parliament of it selfe independant of and not subordinate to the parliament of England And that the subjects of Ireland are immediatly subject to your Majestie as in right of your Crowne and that the members of the said parliament of Ireland and all other the subjects of Ireland are independant and no way to bee ordered or concluded by the parliament of England and are onely to bee ordered and governed within that Kingdome by your Majestie and such Governors as are or shall be there appointed and by the parliament of that Kingdome according to the lawes of the land 12. That the assumed power or Iurisdiction in the Councell-boord of determining all manner of causes bee limitted to matters of state and all pattents estates and grants illegally and extrajudicially avoyded there or elsewhere be left in state as before and the parties grieved their heires or assignes till legall eviction 13. That the statutes of the eleventh twelfth and thirteenth yeare of Queene Elizabeth concerning stapple-commodities be repealed reserving unto your Majestie lawfull and just pondage and a booke of rates to bee setled by an indifferent Committee of both houses for all commodities 14. That in as much as the long continuance of the chiefe governor or governors of that Kingdome in that place of so great eminencie and power hath beene a principall occasion that much tyrannie and oppression hath beene exercised upon the subjects of that Kingdome That your Majestie will bee pleased to continue such governors hereafter but for three yeares And that none once imployed therein bee appointed for the same againe untill the expiration of six yeares next after the end of the said three yeares And that an act passe to disinable such governor or governors during their government directly or indirectly in use trust or otherwise to make any manner of purchase or acquisition of any mannors lands tenements or hereditaments within that Kingdome other then from your Majestie your heires or successors 15. That an act may be passed in the next parliament for the raising setling of trained bands within the seuerall Counties of that Kingdome as well to prevent forraigne invasions as to render them the more serviceable and ready for your Majesties occasions as cause shall require 16. That an act of oblivion be passed in the next free parliament to extend to all your Majesties said Catholicke subjects and their adherents for all manner of offences capitall criminall and personall And the said act to extend to all goods and chattells customes maine-profits prizes arreares of rents taken received or incurred since these troubles 17. For as much as your Majesties said Catholicke subjects have been taxed with many inhuman cruelties which they never committed your Majesties said suppliants therefore for their vindication and to manifest to all the world their desire to have such heynous offences punished and the offendors brought to Iustice doe desire that in the next Parliament all notorious murders breaches of quarter and inhuman cruelties committed of either side may bee questioned in the said Parliament if your Majestie so thinke fit and such as shall appeare to be guiltie to be excepted out of the said act of oblivion and punished according their deserts For as much DREAD SOVERAIGNE as the wayes of our addresses unto your Majestie for apt remedies unto our grievances were hitherto debarred us but now at length through your benigne grace and favour layd open Wee doe humbly present these in pursuance of the said Remonstrance which granted your said subjects are ready to contribute the ten thousand men as in their remonstrance is specified towards the suppressing of the unnaturall rebellion now in this Kingdome And will further expose their lives and fortunes to serve your Majestie as occasions shall require The Answers of the Agents for the Protestants of Ireland to the Propositions of the Roman Catholicks of Ireland made in pursuance of his Sacred Majesties directions of the ninth of May 1644. requiring the same 1 TO the first wee say that this hath beene the pretence of almost all those who have entred into Rebellion in the Kingdome of Ireland at any time since the Reformation of Religion there which was setled by act of Parliament above eighty yeares since and hath wrought good effect ever since for the peace and welfare both of the Church and Kingdome there and of the Church and Kingdome of England and Protestant partie throughout all Christendome and so hath beene found wholesome and necessarie by long experience and the repealing of those Lawes will set Popery againe both in jurisdiction profession and practice as it was before the said Reformation and introduce amongst other inconveniences the Supremacie of Rome and take away or much endanger your Majesties Supreme and just authoritie in causes Ecclesiasticall a diminution of honour and power not to be endured The said acts extending aswell to seditious sectaries as to popish Recusants So as by the repeale thereof every man may seeme to be left to choose his owne Religion in that Kingdome which must needs beget great confusion and the abounding of the Roman Clergy there hath beene one of the greatest occasions of this late Rebellion Besides it is humbly desired that your Maiestie will be pleased to take into your gracious Consideration a clause in the act of Parliament past by your Majesties Royall assent in England in the seventeenth yeare of your raigne touching punishment to be inflicted upon those that shall introduce the authoritie of the See of Rome in any case whatsoever 2. Whereas they desire to have a free Parliament called reflecteth by secret and cunning implication upon your Majesties present Parliament in Ireland as if it were not a free Parliament Wee humbly beseech your Majestie to resent how dangerous it is to make such insinuation or intimation to your people of that kingdome touching that Parliament wherein severall acts of Parliament have already passed the validitie where of may be endangered if the Parliament should not be approved as a free Parliament and it is a point of so high nature as we humbly conceive is not properly to be discussed but in Parliament And your Majesties said Parliament now sitting is a free Parliament in Law holden before a person of honour and fortune in that Kingdome composed of good loyall and well affected subjects to your Majestie who doubtlesse will be ready to comply in all things that shall appeare to be pious and just for the good of the true Protestant Religion and for your Majesties service and the good of the Church and State That if this present Parliament should be dissolved it would be a great terrour and discontent to all your Majesties protestant subjects of that
of this Proposition which concerneth the fundamentall rights of both kingdomes fit to bee referred to the free debate and expostulation of the two Parliaments when it shall please God that they may freely and safely sit his Majesty being so equally concerned in the priviledges of eyther that he will take care to the uttermost of his power that they shall both contayne themselves within their proper limits his Majestie being the head and equally concerned in the rights of both 12. To the twelfth his Majestie hath sufficiently provided for this in his answer to the tenth grievanee which his Majestie is content shall passe by act of parliament 13. To the thirteenth proposition his Majesty hath beene pleased by his late Graces that those statutes should be repealed save onely for Wools and wool-fels And is well pleased that the same be done by act of parliament and that a Booke of Rates be setled by indifferent Commissioners 14. To the foureteenth proposition his Majestie doth not admit or beleeve that the long continuance of the chiefe Covernors of this kingdome in their places of government hath beene an occasion of any tyrany or oppression or that any tyrany or oppression hath beene exercised upon his subjects of this his kingdome howsoever his Majesty will be graciously pleased to take care that such Governors shall not continue longer in those places then he shall finde for the good of his people here And his Majestie is content that they shall bee inhibited to make any purchase other then by Lease for the provision of their houses during the time of their government 15. To the fifteenth Proposition this proposition is to be explaned and some particular way to be proposed for the doing thereof And then consideration being had of the safety and securitie of his Majesties protestant subjects an answer will be made therevnto 16. To the sixteenth proposition his Majestie cannot in Iustice to the foreclosing of the subject of his legall remedy for the recoverie of any goods chattels or rents unlawfully taken or detayned from him But for such-meane profits Customes prizes and Rents which have accrued unto his Majesty since the 23 of Octob. 1641. except the Customes received at VVaterford and Rosse since the 15. of September 1643. His majestie is content to remit the same the rest of the proposition is answered in the answer to the fourth proposition 17. To the seventeenth his Maiesty will be pleased that such persons as shall bee excepted out of the generall pardon shal be tryed by the knowne Lawes of this Land The Lord marques of Ormond now declares that albeit these answers are thus given by him in present to the said propositions yet that hee intends not to be thereby concluded from altering the same or adding thereunto in any parts there of In such sort as he shall finde cause upon further debate Some of the reasons which moved His Maiesties most humble and loyall Subiects the Confederate Roman Catholicks of Ireland to present certaine Propositions to His Excellencie the Lord Marques of Ormond Lord Lieutenant of Ireland His Maiesties Commissioner THe first Proposition that concerneth the freedome of the Catholicke Religion and the repeale of all Lawes made against the professors of that Religion is a demaund not in favour of any innovation but for that Religion which the Inhabitants of this Kingdome anciently and like wise the English Colonies come at first into this Land and their heires for many descents have professed and doe professe at the present and which before the raigne of King Henry the VIII was professed by the Kings of England and their subiects generally And it may be further added and confidently affirmed that there are no subiects in the world of what other beleefe or profession soever in Religion that held themselves so inviolably tyed to the preservation of that monarchy to whom they owe subjection and allegeance as the professors of the said Roman Catholicke Religion This proposition consisteth of two branches the first for the repeale of certaine acts the second that the freedome of their Religion may bee allowed to the said Catholickes For the cleering of the first branch the said Catholickes doe not presse the totall repeale of the said statutes their humble request being that the great penalties pressures incapacities and other unavoidable inconveniences by the said statutes imposed on them alone may be removed as to them by act of Parliament By one statute found among the Records of Parliament of this kingdome in the second yeare of the raigne of the late Queene Elizabeth cap. 1. 2. the said Catholickes are made subiect to the arbitrary power of an high Commission Court or other Commissioners to be appointed by his Maiesty or the Lord Deputie for the time being may be questioned punished for all offences touching Religion Irish statutes fol. 261. likewise fol. 270. and 271. the Archbishops Bishops and Ordinaries of another Religion have heavily punished and may still punish the said Catholickes for Marriages Christenings done according to the Catholicke Religion and every Catholicke was driven to pay nine pence every Sunday for not repayring to Church to the great impoverishment and destruction of the said Catholickes and no profit at all to his Maiesty By the said statute fol. 261. and 262. not onely the Catholicke Clergie are excluded from all dignities benefices Ecclesiasticall but likewise the Catholicke Laytie of all degrees and qualities are rendred incapable of all Civill offices from the highest judge to the petty Cōstable likewise from Marriall offices or imployments even to be a common Souldier in his Maiesties army where any fee or wages are due without first taking the oath of supremacie upon refusall of the said oath all dignities offices or wages are forfeyted No Catholicke can sue Livery or Ouster le maine for his estate or any part thereof out of his Maiesties hands without taking the said oath by the same statute of 2 Elizab. cap. 1 fol. 265. a. If any Catholicke of what estate degree or qualitie soever within this kingdome doe by writing printing teaching preaching expresse words deede or act affirme hold stand with set forth and maintayne any other authority preheminence power or iurisdiction in matters Ecclesiasticall or Spirituall then the person so offending his abbettors ayders promovers and counsellers shall for the first offence forfeyte their goods and Leases and suffer imprisonment for one yeare for the second offence incurre the paines and forfeytures set downe by the statutes of Provision and Praemunire whereby the offender is put out of the Kings protection imprisoned during his life and his goods and lands forfeyted For the third offence the offender is punishable as in case of high Treason Then by consequence if any of the Catholicke Laytie take or procure a dispensation for mariage within the eight degree or any other licence or dispēsation from any authorised by the See of Rome is a principall offender and if he heares
capite taken away and that then a course for his Maiesties profit and service should be proposed that being to be offered in the first place before his Maiestie part with the other And the like is to be done for respit of homage 10. His Maiestie may not receade from the former answer with which the Proposers may rest satisfied 11. As his Maiestie may not vary from his former answer so he may not foreclose the houses of parliament from making any declaration agreeable to the lawes of the land 12. The Proposers may rest satisfied with the former answer considering that all parties grieved may have the benefit of the lawes of the land and that by consent of the parties interested many matters determined at Councell-board are confirmed by act of parliament 13. His Maiestie will be pleased that indifferent persons be agreed on this treatie who shall be authorised by Commission to moderate and settle the Booke of Rates in such sorre as they shall thinke fit 14. His Maiestie may not assent any further to this proposition then he hath already done without apparent preiudice to his service 15. His Maiestie may not receade from his former answer 16. His Maiestie thinkes not fit to give any further answer to this Proposition then he hath done already untill the Proposers make answer to the propositions made and delivered unto them in the behalfe of his Maiesties protestant subiects and their adherents And then upon further debate his Maiestie will give such answer as shall be thought fit 17. It may not be admitted that tryals by the knowne lawes of the land assented unto by the former answer should not be indifferent And therefore his Maiestie may not receade from his former answer The said Lord Marquesse of Ormond now declares that albeit these answers are thus given by him in present to the said propositions yet that he intends not to be thereby concluded from altering the same or adding thereunto in any parts thereof in such sorte as he shall finde cause upon further debate Additionall Propositions of His Majesties most humble and loyall subjects the Confederate Roman Catholicks of Ireland presented to His Excellencie the Lord Marques of Ormond Lord Lieutenant of Ireland His Majesties Commissioner 1. THat an act bee passed this next Parliament prohibiting that neither the Lord Deputie Lord Chancellor Lord High Treasurer Vice-Treasurer Chancellor or any of the Barrons of the Erchequer privy councell or Iudges of the foure Courts bee Farmers of his Majesties Customes 2. That an act of Parliament may passe in this Kingdome against all Monopolies such as was enacted in England 21. Iacobi with a further clause for repealing of all grants of monopolies in this Kingdome 3. That the Court of Castle-chamber in this Kingdome having been an oppression to the subject there being other remedies for the offences questioned in that Court by the Common Law and Statutes of the Realme be taken away or otherwise limitted as both houses of Parliament shall thinke fit 4. That two acts lately past in this Kingdome one prohibiting the plowing with horses by the taile and the other prohibiting the burning of oates in straw may bee repealed 5. That upon presenting the names of three persons of qualitie in each Countie by Vs to your Lordship patents be passed to such of those so to bee presented respectively to be Sheriffs in each County as to your Lordship shall seeme meet to make choice of for that purpose 6. That one or more Agents from this Kingdome may bee admitted still to attend his Majestie for his better information of the affaires of this Kingdome And that as a testimony of his Majesties favour some of the nobles and others of qualitie of this Kingdome may be imployed about his Majesties person 7. For asmuch as divers of the Scottish Nation and others in this Kingdome doe not obey the present cessation and many of them having of late taken the Covenant proposed by the members of Parliament at Westminster now in armes against his Majestie It is therefore humbly desired that such as disobey the said Cessation or have taken the said Covenant bee proclaimed traytors and prosecuted accordingly by his Majesties authoritie and that such Counties or Corporations as have not submitted to the now Cessation of armes in this Kingdome according his Maiesties Commission be not admitted to make any returne to the Parliament 8. For asmuch as sundry persons estated in this Kingdome have either actually raised armes in England against his Majestie or have otherwise adhered to the malignant partie now in armes against his Majestie that therefore it may please his Majestie to give way to the impeachment and attainders of those and such others whose names we shall here represent to your Lordship by way of bill in Parliament whereby they may receive condigne punishment for their offences his Majesty take advantage of the forfeiture of their estates and in the interim the possessions to remaine in the hands wherein they are at present 9. For asmuch as upon application of the Agents from this Kingdome to his Majestie in the fourth yeare of his raigne and lately upon humble suite made to his Majestie by a Committee of both houses of the Parliament of this Kingdome order was given by his Majestie for redresse of severall greevances It is therefore humbly desired that for so many of those as are not expressed in the now propositions presented to your Lordship whereof both houses in the next ensuing Parliament shall desire the benefit of his Majesties said former directions for redresses that the same bee afforded them 10. That the office of 〈◊〉 in this Kingdome bee setled â—â—dependant of none but his Majestie whereby maritime causes may bee determined here without driving merchants or others to appeale or seeke Iustice elsewhere in those causes 11. That a Course may be taken for all such as owe debts in this Kingdome for that by reason of the generall devastation of the Kingdome the land is not like in some yeares to come to be of any considerable value being the onely meanes that many of the Nobilitie Gentrie and others of this Kingdome had to satisfie their debts and therefore a competent time bee given by act to bee past in the next Parliament for payment thereof and the interest or use of moneyes to bee moderated 12. That the subjects of this Kingdome may bee eased of the increase of rent lately raysed and imposed on them upon the late Commission of defective titles in the Earle of Straffords time 13. That if any of your Lordships partie during these troubles have by fines recoveries or otherwise disinherited those who were next to succeed them of our partie as heires or in reversion or remainder without reall and full consideration but for being of our partie that all acts so done be avoided in Parliament 14. That such of our partie whose estates are in the hands of the Scottish and Parliament partie either in