himselfe that perswadeth or moueth others thereunto For Plantation is no matter of our Faith and Saluation There may be as great reasons and iust occasions why he should not goe as why they others whom hee perswadeth should goe yet because no man shall take any exception at all against mâ—… or my perswasions that way I say I doe purpose God willing to goe And I shall thinke my selfe happy if I may bee one of those that may lay the first stones of such a building and spend and end my daies in being onâ—… Instrument among the many thousands of our English Natition that shall betake and bestow themselues in such a manner to the enlargement of Gods Church of the Kings dominions and of our owne English habitations But I say withall Secondly I cannot goe as yet because I haue not my meanes and estate so setled and prouided as it is fit for one that will goe well Thirdly if I goe it shall bee partly in hope by Gods mercifull prouidence toward me and mine to better mine estate and to doe good as to others so specially to those that are mine owne or doe otherwise depend vpon me And therefore I haue no reason to goe till I see some good likelihood of probability and assurance that it may and will be done Fourthly I will not goe by my goodwill till I finde some good course taken for a good Plantation in that place or Country wheremy desire and purpose is aboue any I heare of yet to plant my selfe When some such course shall be taken and followed effectually I will not God willing be one of the last that shall make vse of it Fifthly I suppose I ought not either to tempt God by going without good and necessary meanes nor seeke my owne destruction by running before I am sent in good order And therefore expecting a conuenient and appointed time it is enough that I doe for the present prepare my selfe to be ready prepared against that time and hauing my minde and affection setled that way doe hearken as the good Souldier for the sound of the trumpet to the battell for the publishing of that decree that may rouse vp all England to such an attempt and expedition Resp. I like your answer so well that besides other good vses which I shall make of it the while by Gods helpe whensoeuer you shall goe for I see you will not goe but vpon good ground You shall haue me ready on reasonable warning to beare you company And I doe not thinke but that you shall haue many more of our Neighbours and Acquaintance that will doe the like Enr. The more the merrier by the grace of God And I pray God of his loue and goodnesse to our Nation and for the furtherance and increase of his Gospell to vouchsafe to these actions and to all that shall goe in them a happy and speedy proceeding â—…fid to vs in particular iâ—… it be his will that wee shall be partakers in the same a ioyfull and good successe therein Respire AMEN The end of the third and last part Anâ—…o Domini 1624. The summe of he whole Treatise What profit may come by reading such books as concerne Plantations Plantations themselues are Actions very commendable necessarie c. 1. By them the Church of Christ may notably bee enlarged By the Addition of other Countries to Christendome And by the Conuersion of infinite heathens to Christianitie The Papists haue much endeuoured this way It is Gods will to call them to the knowledge of his truth And their conuersion must be before the end of the world can be D. Keckar Dantiscan 2. By them the Maiestie and renowne of the Kings of England may be much augmented 3. By them the good of this Land may notably be procured 1. In the easier supportation of the Regall state 2. In ridding out of the land the great and superfluous multitude thereof 3. In abating the excessiue high prices of all things to liue by 4. In enriching the poorer sort hence remoued 5. In amending the Trade and Traffique of Merchants 6. In rooting out Idlenesse out of this Land The fruits of Idlenesse Ale houses Tobacco-shops Idle Trades Prisons Violent deaths Plantations be lawfull Plantations no new nor strange course but both vsuall and ancient Tully Gen. 10. 5. Gen. 9. 1. Certaine Obiections answered 1. Obiection Answere â—…id 2. Obiect Answ. Tents may serue for a time 3. Obiection Answer The spoyle of woods in those countries not sufferable 4. Obiection Answere What meanes for profitable cattell to be had and transported 5. Obiect Answ. 6. Obiect Answer â—… Obiect Answer Normandie and Aquitaine in France lost and when Note this 8. Obiect Answer The Summe of this first part The best course to be taken for Plantations is by Act of Parliament What inferior courses might be taken to further thesâ—… attemptâ—… Money to be had First By Voluntaries Secondly By personall Aduenturers Thirdly By generall Collections Fourthly By Hospitall Money Fifthly By Moneys giuen to the vse of the Poore Ambros. de Offic. lib. 2. cap. â—…7 Sixthly By Moneys giuen to the vse of the Church Seuenthly By the Lotterie 8. By some ratable imposition 9. By base monies for those purposes and places to be stamped The vse and 〈◊〉 of such money Tenthly By Gold and Siluer Coynes An obiection of the fall of base monie answered 11. By frugall expenses in Diet c. An extrauagant 12. By the godly parsimonie of the richer sort at home Lacedemonians To procure people to goe what meanes might be vsed 1. By Proclamation a a There is a president of this forme set forth by Robert Harecourt Esquire in the end of his Deseription of his voyage to Guâ—…ana b b This I see is now reasonably well performed by Captaine R. 〈◊〉 who hath obtained his Bookes to be dispersed into all parishes sauing that his project is for one onely plantation viz. Nâ—…wfound Land but that I intend shuld be for all or one after another successiuely as they go on and with more Authoritie Fourthly By prouision supplyed 5. By Vagarant Persons 6. Prisoners Seuenthly Maimed Souldiers Eighthly Cottagers Ninthly Inmates 10. Souldiers in garrisons And seruants Diuers sorts of mâ—…necessaryn for a Plantation 11. Ministers of the word How they may be prouided for 12. Other schollers for teaching of youth Meanes that may be vsed for procuring such men to goe Ruffin hist. Eccles lib. 1. cap. 9. Socrat. hist. Eccl. lib. 1. cap. 15. 13. Men of name and note to be Gouernours c. 14. And that in the Ecclesiasticall estate as well as in the temporall The fifteenth and chiefest of all is That his Maiesty would entitle himselfe King of that Countrey in which the present Plantation shall be Certaine obiections answered 1 Obiect Answ. 2 Obiect Answ. 3 Obiect Answ. How great a number in England may be spared for Plantations 4 Obiect Answ. The summe of the second part Causes why our Plantations proceed no better First want of a generall resolution Secondly The want of some good course for it 3. Want of â—…dustry in 〈◊〉 people 〈◊〉 in 〈◊〉 4. The immodeiate loue of their owne Countâ—…y How many Plantations now in hand Which of them seemetâ—… best to be seâ—… forwardâ—… How many waies there be to make Plantations Plantation by Inuasion disliked 〈◊〉 13. 17 Psal 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Wherein Inuasion and Plantation are somewhat like 1. Discouery 2. Number of people What number of people may suffice to begin a Plantation withall Romane Colonies â—… Prouision 4 Celeritie What celerity needfull in a Plantation 5. Policie Whether is better to plant in an Iland or in a Continent Moâ—…ues for a present Plantation in New found land The name of such as already haue begun a Plantation in New-found Land Excuses and delaies for not going inâ—…o a Plantation answered 1. Agedness 2. Not vsuall for old men Butler in his feminine Monar cap. 5. Num. 3. Gen. 1â—… 4. Exod. 7. 7. 3. Young men and single not so fit as elder and married men 4. tâ—…uell by Sea 1. Of them that haue liuings here â—… Cor. 12. 14. â—… Tim. 5. 8. 6. It is not vsuall for men that haue liuings here to goe The manner in ancient times how to raise people for a Plantation 7. Women are vnwilâ—…ing to goe Examples of Women Sara Rebecca Rachel 〈◊〉 Queene Eâ—…anor Plutâ—…rc iâ—… 〈◊〉 1. Cor. 7. 6. The Author â—…mselfe doth purpose God willing to goe into one or other Plantaâ—…ion And many will accompany him
small backsides large fields pastures meadowes woods and other like plentie to liue vpon 5. The benefit that might that way accrew vnto Merchants and all kinde of Aduenturers by Sea is infinit For Traffique and Merchandize cannot but by meanes thereof wonderfully be bettered and increased And withall which is not the least point in Obseruation most commodious and delightfull must merchandizing and traffique needs bee while it shall be exercised for the most part betweene one and the same people though distant in Region yet vnited in Religion in Nation in Language and Dominion Which surely is a thing likely to proue so materiall and beneficiall as may turne the greater part of our Merchants voyages that way and free them from many of those dangerous passages which now they are faine to make by the Straits and narrow Seas may finde them out their rich and much-desired commodities and greater store and at a better hand then now they haue them other where and vent them many a thing which now doe seldome or not at all passe their hands But of all other I need speake little of the Merchants good as who can and I am perswaded doe so well know it of themselues and thereupon affect the enterprise so much that if other mens desires and endeuours were correspondent it would take both speedy and condigne effect 6. The last benefit to our Land but not the least is the curing of that euill Disease of this Land which if it be not lookt vnto and cured the sooner will bee the Destruction of the Land I meane Idlenesse the Mother of many Mischiefes which is to be cured and may be rooted out of the Land by this meanes yea by this onely and by none other viz. by Plantation Resp. Idlenesse is a naughtie vice indeed but commonly it doth hurt none but them in whom it is and yet except that fault many that be idle be honest men and haue in them diuers good qualities and therefore me thinkes you speake too hardly of it to call it The Mother of Mischiefes There be worse vices a great many in the Land as this Drunkennesse and vnthriftie spending of their goods which are euery where so common Enr. I perceiue by you it is a very bad cause that cannot get a Proctour That which I haue spoken against Idlenesse is but little to that I could speake and which writers both humane and diuine â—…aue spoken of it to whom I will referre you leâ—…t we protract this our Conference ouer-long But for the vices you speake of if they be as you say worse then Idlenesse yet as sometime of a bad mother there may come worse daughters I assure you they and many more as filching and stealing robbery and cousenage adultery and incest fornication and all kinde of wantonnesse and vncleannesse beggery and roguery prophanenesse and idolatry and a number more that vpon the sodaine I cannot call to minde and with which this Land of ours is defiled and filled be none other for the most part then the fruits and of spring the brood and increase of Idlenesse which alone taken away and weeded out these all would fall away and vanish with her For Sublata causa tollitur effectus saith the Philosopher The cause of any thing taken away the effect is also taken away with it and must cease Resp. A happy worke indeed were the doing thereof But doe you thinke or is there any probabilitie that this might be done by so speedie and easie a meanes as Plantation Enr. Questionlesse The best and the onely Cure thereof by the hand of man is this way and none other The diminution of the people of the Land vnto a due and competent Number will doe it This is apparant by Experience For looke we backe to the state of our Land for 40. 50. or 60. yeeres agoe before it did thus exceed in multitude and we shall see that few or none of these vices did then abound nothing in Comparison of that they doe now as which haue since sprung vp out of Idlenesse that since that time together with the multitude and increase of the people is risen and increased Resp. Indeed I remember well when I was a young man there were no such swaggering Youths potting Companions and idle Gamesters as bee now in the Countrie little fornication bastardie quarrelling and stabbing and other like wicked facts in respect of those that be now howsoeuer it be that the world is so much altered But that these euils may be amended by Plantations yet I see not Enr. I will make you see it and confesse it too You haue your selfe a great many of Children if you should keepe them all at home and haue not wherewith to set them to worke nothing to employ them in for all the worke you haue to doe ordinarily is not enough for aboue two or three of them must they not needs fall to Idlenesse what will most of them proue but Idlers and Loyterers Now to preuent and auoyd this what other remedie haue you but either to get worke for them into your own house from other men if you can haue it or else perforce to place them forth of your owne house into other mens one to this trade or occupation another to that where they may be set aworke and kept from Idlenesse Resp. This is true But what is this to our purpose Enr. Very much For the cases are very like Thereby you may plainly perceiue that as the onely way to rid Idlenesse out of your house hauing no worke for them at home is to place abroad your children into other houses as it were into Colonies where they may be set aworke so the onely way to rid Idlenesse out of a whole parish towne countie or countrey the same being not able to set thâ—… that are idle therein aworke And it is a thing so euident that for the idle people of our Land what by the great number of them which is almost infinite and what by the present dampe and decay of all Trades and employments the Land is not any way able to set them aworke that it needs no proofe is to place abroad the Inhabitants thereof which therein be not nor can be set aworke into other parishes townes counties and countries Resp. If this Course should be taken it would touch very neere a great many of the best liuers in the Countrey who both themselues and their children be as idle as any can be and yet would be loth hauing so good meanes here to liue by to be remoued into Plantations abroad Enr. These might be brought from Idlenesse and yet abide at home too For if the superfluous multitude of our Land were remoued those which you speake of would for their owne need fall to worke and leaue Idlenesse because that multitude remoued they should haue none to doe their worke for them as now they haue while they goe to playing potting and other like vaine and idle
will neuer say well Many idle wretches when they come into such places because they cannot haue the plenty without paines not finde those golden mountaines they dreamed of at home though many things bee notable and very good yet will cauill at and blame euery thing Suppose it be somewhat as they say that is The ground not so fruitfull as some places here in England yet doth it follow therefore it is not worth the hauing If I be not deceiued There bee few Countries in Europe that can compare with England for richnesse of the Soile and fatnesse of the earth yet we all know they are not therefore forsaken Againe in England it selfe all places are not alike good As there be some of excellent mold so there be barren heath and hungry Soiles a great many yet we see people are glad to inhabit them Be it then that some of those parts be no better then our worser grounds our heaths Mendip hills Wiltshire downes Salisbury plaines and other like yet I hopâ—… they are better then none A great deale of such ground together I thinke may be as good as a little good ground If any man will thus consider of such complaints and murmurs he shall see no great cause to regard them These therefore thus satisfied if you haue any thing else to say say on Resp. Some say also That those Countries are so ouer growne with wood trees bushes and such like that there is no roome for building no ground for pasture and tillage or at least not without excessiue labour and charge or intolerable and pitâ—…ifull spoile of the woods and timbor to no vse Enr. It cannot be but that those countries hauing either not at all or but little as yet beene inhabited must needs be much ouergrowne with woods and no small part thereof to be a very Forrest and Wildernesse yet certaine it is that there are a thing very admirable and almost beyond expectation there are I say in them to be found many goodly parts of those Countries that are very cleare of woods faire and goodly open champion ground large Meadowes and Pastures many hundred sometimes thousands of Acres together So that besides the wood-lands there is abundantly roome and ground enough to build and inhabit vpon for more people I beleeue then will hastily be gotten ouer to dwell there and more ground open and cleare already rid for pasture and tillage then yet there will be people and cattle enough had thither to such vses the same to conuert and employ And therefore there needs not either that Complaint which they make of the excessiue store and encomberment of woods nor which is worse of that present and hastie spoile and burning vp of woods on the sudden for making of roome that some doe talke of and would haue to be made and as it is reported haue already made by burning vp thousands of Acres together This truly in my opinion is a thing very wicked and such as cannot but be displeasing to Almightie God who abhorreth all wilfull waste and spoile of his good creatures Gather vp that which is left saith our Sauiour Ioh. 6. 12. that nothing be lost and a thing that in common ciuilitie and humane policie should not be suffered to be done or being done not passe vnpunished Wee may know by our owne present want of wood here in England what a pretious commoditie wood is and be warned by our owne harmes to make much of it if we haue plenty thereof and no further nor faster to cut it downe then present vse and good occasions from time to time shall require We should not be so blinde as not to foresee that if the countries come once to be inhabited there will be so many and so great occasions of cutting downe wood and timber trees as will quickly cause infinite store thereof necessarily to be imployed and so the grounds from time to time speedily enough to be made cleare and ridde for other vses For first the very building of Houses to which adde the necessary making of fences about houses and grounds will vse an infinit deale of Wood and Timber Secondly The store that will daily and yeerely be spent in necessary vses for fire which at the first specially till houses bee warme and drie and the ayre corrected will and must be more than ordinarie cannot but if once any number of Inhabitants goe ouer be exceeding great Thirdly The building and making of Ships and shipping will require and consume very much there And such order may bee taken that by the woods there great spare a thing very needfull may be made in England of our Woods here for that vse Fourthly To these places may be transplanted the making of Glasse and Iron as well for England as for the same Countries two things that as it is well knowne doe deuoure yet vpon necessary vses wonderfull store of Wood continually Fiftly The Trades of Potters for earthen vessels and of Coupers for treen Vessels both very necessary specially at the first will and must still from time to time spend vp much Wood and Timber Sixtly And little behinde them in expence of Wood will be that very necessary Trade of making of Salt considering how great vse there is and will be thereof there for the fishing voyages besides all other vses thereof both there and else-where Seuenthly No small quantity thereof likewise may be cut vp and transported into England for our Buildings for Coupers Ioyners and Trunk-makers trades heere which now at a daerer hand wee buy and fetch out of other Countries Eighthly Besides the Woods standing are of themselues and by industry more may be made a great fortification for the Inhabitants against man and Beast till the Countries be and can be better employed and fortified These and other like necessary and great vses of wood considered which either must or may be made thereof little reason or cause is there why as if it could like the waters in the riuers neuer be spent while the world stands there should any sudden and needlesse spoile by fire or any other wastfull hauocke be made thereof and seuerely deserue they to be punished that shall make it and sharply the rest to be restrained that none like hereafter be made Resp. These Countries are full of wilde Beasts Beares c. Enr. 1. Some of them as the Summer Ilands haue no such at all No harmfull thing in them 2. None of them especially Newfound Land as farre as I heare haue any or at least any store of noysome creatures as of Serpents Crocodiles c. as haue many parts of this Continent which yet long hath beene and still be inhabited 3. It is well there are some beasts there wilde at least if not tame That is an argument vndeniable that tame beasts may there be bred and liue 4. Better wilde then none at all For of some of them some good vse may be made for the present viz. for labour for
great cause why men attaine to riches there more slowly then they might and should if they were otherwise managed As First If the Plantation begin with a small number farre too little for such a businesse For then neither can they bee able to extend themselues farre into the Countries in a long time and so not to finde out the goodnes sweetnesse and benefit thereof nor to set vp all kinde of necessary trades and faculties among themselues whereby they may bee able to assist and set one another a worke 2. If they that remoue hence goe sparely and ill prouided of cattell corne and other necessaries for Plantation and Habitation which those countries afford not impossible it is for them to make that profit and get that increase by their Lands and Liuings there which they might if they were well and throughly prouided of such things at the first 7. This is the onely way which men in ancient time did finde out and obserue to get riches and wealth withall to increase and amend their estate by when as by multitudes of people their country was as ours now is so ouerlaid that they could not thriue and prosper therein Neither were they euer lightly deceiued but the euent and computation did answer their intent and expectation And no doubt if the like courses bee now attempted they may and will if they be well carried produce the like or rather better and speedier effects to vs then to them For we haue many helps for peace and warre for shipping and nauigation for defence and fortification for traffique and negotiation for building and habitation for religious and ciuill conuersation for skill in many needfull arts and occupations which they had not to further vs withall 8. Of all other meanes to get wealth and riches by Husbandry which of all courses of life is that which in those places must chiefly and most of all be followed and employed hath anciently and worthily euer beene accounted the chiefest best and surest Wherein though it be somewhat more chargeable combersome and for a time vncomfortable to enter into a void and desolate country ouergrowne with woods thickets and other like yet who knowes not what great oddes and aduantage to the getting of riches and wealth there is first betweene the breaking vp of such grounds as were neuer yet employed but hauing lien waste vntoucht and vntilled from the beginning haue all their sweetnesse and fatnesse in them and the tillage and vsage of poore and hungry soiles that from time to time haue beene turned vp and worne out to the vttermost and then betwixt the hauing of great and goodly Lands for there one man may easily haue as much as ten or twentie haue here and of small and simple Tenements 9. When Brutus came first into this Land who would haue imagined it would haue proued so goodly so plentifull so fruitfull so rich so excellent and happy a Land as we God be praised for it doe finde and all the world about vs doth know it is And who but sailing along the Coasts of any of those new Countries or but going ashore here and there not aboue a mile or two happely within the Land can imagine or conceiue much lesse know and vnderstand what wealth and riches what goodly fields and pastures hills and valleys mines and metals woods and waters what hidden treasures and sundry commodities are to be found and had therein 10. The name of a Kingdome is verie great and what should not or heretofore what would not men doe to gaine a Kingdome By these meanes opportunitie is offered vnto our Land to our English Nation to gâ—…t and gaine to possesse and take to haue and enioy together with Plantation and Habitation for thousands and hundred thousands thereof more then one or two Kingdomes great and goodly Prouinces that by Gods blessing and prouidence towards vs may in time bee vnited to the Crowne the Imperiall Crowne of this Land Which by consequence for what infinite store of riches and wealth how many places of peferment and honour for hundreds and thousands of particular and inferiour persons is there contained and comprehended within a Kingdome must needs bring with euery of them seuerally riches and wealth of great and in manner infinite valew and estimation The English lost in France in the time of Henrie the sixth two seuerall parts of that spacious Countrie that had beene English neere about three hundred yeeres before that is Normandie and Aquitaine in the former whereof saith an English Historie as minding to expresse the greatnesse of the losse by the particulars there were then an hundred strong townes and fortresses one Archbishoppricke and sixe Bishopprickes besides some other townes destroyed in the warres and in the latter foure Archbishopprickes fifteene Earledomes two hundred sixtie and two Baronies and aboue a thousand Captainships and Bailiwicks Suppose we now the same had fallen out in our times and I hope I may without offence make vse of former and forraine things would we not or should we not thinke you account it an inesâ—…imable losse and damage to the Crowne and Countrey of England worthy to be redeemed with hundred thousands of our mony and goods and to be recouered if it were possible with thousands of the liues of our men and no small effusion of Christian bloud If now contrariwise we may in our dayes not lose but get not hazard but assuredly haue and gaine and that sine sanguine sudore euen without bloud or blowes and without any waste or spoyle of our treasurâ—… and state I will not say the same that we had lost but in stead 〈◊〉 some other Regions and Countries Territories and 〈◊〉 for Habitation as great and likely in time to proue as gâ—… 〈◊〉 might not this bee iustly accounted a gaine and good 〈◊〉 â—…sargement and increase to our Nation and Kingdome inestiâ—…le and exceeding great If the name of a Kingdome shall beâ—… thought too high and excellent too great and glorious for Couâ—…s so vaste and wast so remote and obscure as those of our Plantations yet are let them bee vouchsafed the name but of Dukedomes as those I last mentioned or Lordships as Ireland for a long time was or by whatsoeuer other titles parts or members of a kingdome hee shall be pleased to stile and nominate them Quem â—…enes arbitrium est ius normâ—… loquendi as one saith for so we haue the thing it is no great matter for the name yet if there may be had as the probabilities possibilities and opportunities already had and made vs doe plainly declare there may in one place a Countrey as great at the least as that of Normandie in another place as that of Aquitaine in a third twise as much as they both that is such a one wherein there may be in time erected constituted and made speaking somewhat thought not altogether according to the former proportions fortie Earledomes or Counties foure Archbishopprickes
wont to doe So it is with Shopkeepers they har◅ly can finde any place where to set vp Shop all places being already full and ouerfull Little vtterance of their ware can they make and are oft informed to take mony so much vnderhand that they can hardly get or saue thereby 2. If their owne distresse and present euill state will not preuaile sufficiently with men of these qualities to moue them to goe considering that such must be had and of some sorts of them great store for without thē no Plantation at all can any where be made such courses may and must be taken partly by the bettring of their estates there with promise and assurance of some good portions of lands houses and benefits if they will goe and partly by impairing of their estates here with lesse worke and worse vtterance if they will not goe as may make them either willing or at least content to goe Resp. You haue spoken much concerning people to be had for a Plantation that for this matter I thinke you haue no more to say Enr. Yes very much For all these hitherto mentioned though they be a multitude indeed and enough to make a very large Plantation out of hand yet without others conioyned with them will they bee for the most part but a rude and silly multitude You haue forgottē it seemeth so had I too almost no maruell for I finde them of others but little remembred one sort of people most needfull of all others to be had I meane Ministers of the word of God For whom if care be not taken that they may be had and being had that they may forthwith and condignly be prouided for which is after the example of God himselfe who in diuiding the land of Canaan laid out the Lot of Leui with the first and that a faire and goodly one too as you reade Num 18. and 35. in vaine may we looke for any notable blessing from God vpon the Attempts If they be altogether omitted and neglected or shifted off for the present with faire words or led on a little with beggerly stipends a profane kind of pay and not made partakers and that in ample sort with their people of such meanes as they doe liue vpon viz. Trade Turfe and Tithes farewell good Ministrie there for euer Their portions once seized and setled in the hands of lay men as too much experience shewes here at home will neuer in good and due manner and measure bee gotten out againe Wherefore as it is necessary and fit that the countries be presently distinted into parishes so withall and more then so necessary and fit it is that the Ministers part be allotted and laid out with it A thing at first before proper and priuate rights be setled as easie I hope to be had as to be asked for which how much the better it is effected so much the better and the more be we well assured shall the worke the maine worke prosper and please God Resp. But doe you thinke it not lawfull to prouide for the Ministers of the word otherwise then by tithes which many will hardly yeeld now in the time of the Gospel to be due to them by Gods law Enr. Whether Tithes be due De iure diuino I leaue to Diuines But taking that onely which all be agreed vpon that is that the Minister must haue a very competent liberall and certaine Maintenance which cannot be lesse then the Tenth For allotting thereof whether they shall like better to follow the example of our owne Progenitors the ancient Inhabitants of this Land who imitating God himselfe in his practice before touched as we may see with our eyes euery where though a great part thereof be now taken from the Church by impropriations and abridged to the Church by Customes Prescriptions and other like did not account the Church to be sufficiently prouided for vnlesse besides Tithes and Oblations it were endowed with some faire portion of good and conuenient ground called the Glebe or in stead of both both Tithes and Glebero allot and allow the Church a full Tenth of Ground onely I meane the tenth part of euery mans Tenure as he that hath a thousand Acres of ground to allow an hundred of them to the Church and so to pay no tithe at all as which would be more troublesome to the Minister to gather and more grudging and laboursome to the parishioner to lay out as we finde by daily experience here in England I see no great cause why any should refuse or dislike it For either way the Minister may haue a very sufficient stable and certaine maintenance Resp. This latter way Ministers of Churches shall be too much encombred with husbandry and distracted from their studies Enr. They may easily auoyd that if of the whole they reserue out for their owne Table a reasonable quantitie onely as their Glebe here in England and diuide the rest into Tenements which they may let to other men that may yeeld them rents and fines as doe Tenants here in England to their Landlords after which sort also there be in England some lands belonging to Benefices with Cures Resp. I haue made you digresse a little too much happely by my so many questions I pray you therefore now returne to that you were saying Enr. Besides these Ministers of Churches whether it shall not be requisite that as great a number almost of other Schollers for the teaching of children and training vp of youth as well in the Languages as in all other good Literature be likewise procured and sent forth for as it is not fit so indeed it is not alwayes possible the Ministers alone should vndergo this charge also I leaue it at large to euery mans consideration Resp. That such men viz. Ministers and Schoolemasters should be had it must needs bee granted to bee most requisite and necessary but I beleeue it will not be very easie to procure them For Schollers now a daies are most of them of a tender breed and such as will hardly brooke the Seas and England is prouided of many good meanes of Maintenance for them and therefore they will be loth to seeke after lesse and worse otherwhere Enr. To furnish the Ministerie and Schooles the Vniuersities of our Land solicited therevnto cannot doe l◅sse then send forth either of them yeerely some few and it be but two or three apeece And there are few Diocesses in the land besides which hauing in them diuers sufficient and able men in those functions not yet in any measure competently prouided for may not also doe the like And fit and necessary it is that for the incouragement of men at the first to these imployments there should somewhat more then ordinary shares as I may say that is some what more then what will hold but while their breath holds be proposed and offered to men of that ranke For in them also the old saying happely will bee
the soundnesse of your opinion about the things we haue talked of Enr. Whether you spake as you did of Ignorance or for triall to proue what I could or would say in these cases it is not greatly materiall I haue spoken nothing I hope but what is â—…it and probable in the cause and the same in such sort as may suffice to satisfie you or any other that will with veritie and probabilitie be satisfied in these points therefore I trust that you will take all that I haue spoken in good part as proceeding from a minde that would willingly gratifie all but offend none Resp. You haue in truth satisfied me to the sull concerning those things of which I desired a Resolution and did somewhat doubt with my selfe that it was not to be had For now I perceiue that to make a good Plantation store of people to inhabit and store of Prouision to inable them to inhabite it are necessary I perceiue also that our Land is able to affoord both both People and Prouision plentifully if good courses might be taken for procuring them Wherefore as I cannot but acknowledg my selfe much beholding vnto you for that you haue brought me out of errour into the truth as out of darknesse into light so I cannot but prosesse that I now wish with all my heart that I might liue to heare and know these or some of these worthy commendable and necessary Proiects brought to some good effect and will from henceforth bee as ready to incourage and perswade others thereunto as I haue beene heretofore to discourage and disswade them therefrom Enr. If you be so well minded whereof I am very glad then you haue done contradicting and I shall not need to bethinke my selfe of any further answers Resp. I haue done obiecting and opposing for I perceiue it is to 〈◊〉 â—…nd but if there doe come any thing into my mind concerning these proiects wherein I shall need some better information then I can gather to my selfe I will make bold to come vnto you once more but that shall be not as an opposite and gain-saier but as a Scholler that desireth to learne that so I may haue mine owne mind and vnderstanding so well informed and prepared that I may be able to confer with and if need be to informe others Enr. Come and welcome whensoeuer you see it good The end of the second Part. A PLAINE PATH-WAY TO PLANTATIONS That is A Discourse in generall concerning the Plantation of our English people in other Countries The third Part. LONDON Printed by G. P. for Iohn Marriot THE PATH-WAY TO PLANTATIONS The third Part. The Speakers be Respire a Farmer Enrubie a Merchant Respire ONce againe M. Enrubie I am come to trouble you a little For by often thinking and as it were meditating vpon these new and notable businesses of Plantation which I hope will and wish may take good effect some things are come into my mind that need a better wit and vnderstanding then mine to open them to me I pray you therefore a little to instruct me therein Enr. With a verie good will I will doe what I may Aske me what you will Resp. The great and goodly workes that we haue talked of I see to be exceeding good and necessarie for our people and meanes enough to be had for setting them forward What therefore may be the reason they goe on no better Enr. There may diuers reasons or causes thereof be conceiued The maine or principall whereof in my conceit is this There wanteth among vs a generall and setled resolution to proceed with them Resp. What might worke such a Resolution Enr. A like knowledge and perswasion of the Necessitie Abilitie and Opportunitie that our whole Nation hath thereunto Resp. I pray you speake somewhat of each of these seuerally Enr. I haue reasonably well done it alreadie if you call to mind what hath passed betweene vs in conference For in our first dayes Labour I shewed you manifoldly that a Plantation is for our Land at this present time verie needfull And indeed it is so needfull and necessarie that vnlesse God take away the present necessitie thereof by war or pestilence or both if it be not this way remedied this Land cannot but shortly come for want thereof to verie great miserie and euill And at our next meeting I shewed you that there are both people enow and meanes for prouision enough to performe such a businesse and that in a large and ample both manner and measure if good courses be taken for it accordingly which can be best done by some Act of Parliament if the Estates of the Land might be pleased to take this matter into their consideration as a matter that highly and neerely concerneth the common good at this instant Matters of ten times lesse moment are ordinarily vouchsafed the help and authoritie of that most high and honourable Court and therefore great hope we may conceiue that in due time which is euen now this also shall For opportunitie I take it it hath passed betweene vs in our whole conference as a matter granted that there is opportunitie thereto offered vs abundantly because as it is most certainly knowne and out of all controuersie there are sundry Places and Countreys where Plantations may be made and our people may inhabite if they will Resp. What take you for a second cause Enr. The want of some good order and course for such a purpose such I meane as may be setled generally all the Land ouer by Regall and Legall authoritie and not by priuate agreements and directions only which if I be not much deceiued will neuer effect such a worke while the world standeth The ancient Romans well vnderstanding this neuer therefore attempted the plantation of any one Collony or City alone or of any of those lands they had gotten in warre but that first there was Lâ—…x lâ—…ta a speciall Law or publike Decree much like an Act of Parliament with vs made for it the titles whereof were De Colonys dedâ—…cendis De Agris diuideâ—…dis and other like Resp. The Kings Maiesty permitteth any that will to goe Enr. 1. First that is more then we doe know whatsoeuer folke doe say 2. Experience doth shew there must be vsed to the thorow effecting of any such attâ—…mpt a Coactiâ—…e as well as a Permissiue power It is not an easie matter scarce to be hoped for in these daies and in our land to make if need should be any great army for the field much lesse to get Voluntaries enough for a Plantation considering that it is easier to get carelesse young men and single men to goe out of their Country vnto a warfare then to get setled Housholders and whole Families men women and children to goe into a strange country to a plantation and habitation Resp. What may be a third cause Enr. The want of industry and inclination to labour and take any paines in our people who