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A07647 Immediate addresse vnto God alone First deliuered in a sermon before his Maiestie at Windsore. Since reuised and inlarged to a just treatise of inuocation of saints. Occasioned by a false imputation of M. Antonius De Dominis vpon the authour, Richard Montagu. Montagu, Richard, 1577-1641. 1624 (1624) STC 18039; ESTC S112845 131,862 253

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〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d all_o in_o all_o in_o this_o present_a question_n and_o dispute_v of_o invocation_n of_o saint_n which_o ordinary_o they_o seem_v not_o to_o have_v of_o themselves_o nor_o yet_o possibility_n to_o be_v inform_v thereof_o they_o or_o show_v how_o they_o shall_v be_v acquaint_v with_o they_o prove_v i_o this_o that_o they_o have_v or_o may_v have_v notice_n thereof_o and_o prove_v all_o i_o will_v no_o more_o contend_v against_o their_o intercession_n if_o any_o papist_n living_n or_o all_o the_o papist_n living_n can_v prove_v that_o i_o may_v make_v my_o necessity_n know_v unto_o they_o ordinary_o but_o instant_o subscribe_v without_o more_o ado_n i_o grant_v they_o know_v much_o and_o that_o ordinary_o of_o themselves_o their_o own_o endowment_n or_o else_o by_o infuse_v or_o reveal_v knowledge_n know_v all_o
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