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A67646	A defence of the innocency of the lives, practice, and doctrine of the English preists [sic], Jesuits, and papists relating to the crimes of murther and treason, vnjustly charged on them by E.C. in his narrative wherein are discouered his grosse mistakes, his wilfull falsifications, his shamefull falshoodes, and his groundlesse vniust accusations of the English papists.	Warner, John, 1628-1692.	1680 (1680)	Wing W908A; ESTC R221952	27,739	33

the canon we do not think that God hath giuen vs any leaue to sin In the Glosse when the Action is dubious whether it be good or bad w● must judge fauourably of the Pope If it be of its own nature bad as Adultery or MVRTHER we must own that he sins in it althô there be no man to whom he ought to be accused by reason of the dignity of the first Chair You see sir that the glosse says iust the contrary to what you cite out of it for it says the Pope sins by murther you make it say murther is no sin in a Pope E. C. pag. 6. As yet we haue not proued vpon them their KING KILLING doctrine pray let one quotation supply for all I think it is such an one as is sull home to the Point Suarez l. 6. ad M. B. Regem 1.24 says A King if he be once excommunicated may be deposed or slain by any person whomsoeuer that with impunity Therefor it is past all manner of doubt but that they h●ld it exreamely Lawfull Answer It is past all manner of doubt that you hold it extreamely Lawfull to tell any kind of lyes falsify any Authours you please prouided it may concontribute to charge some odious opinion on Papists how contrary soeuer it be to the Authours you cite Suarez hauing written that Proposition immediatly addes Haec Propositio simpliciter sumpta est falsissima This Proposition absolutely taken is most false What say you Christian Reader is this fair play what cannot these men proue at this rate out of any Authour by making him say what he condemnes condemn what he says What credit do they deserue who discouer so little sense of Truth honesty shame of men or feare of God These are his proofes of our holding Murther to be Lawfull which he doth not 1. because there is not one word cited out of any English Catholick 2. Nor out of any other aliue 3. He falsitys impudently all he cites CHAPTER 6. Catholicks practice no Treason E. C. pag. 7. What was the offence of the Cittizens of Toulouse Auignon when P. Gregory IX Set Lewis the French King to war against them their Earl Raymundus without cause but only that of their Religion where the sayd King dyed at the siege Answ Here are two greate vntruths The first that there was no cause of that war besides Religion There were two wars made vpon the Albigenses The first by Simon Monfort with the forces of the King of France Lewis VIII Soveraign Lord of the Earle of Toulouse for hauing killed an Embassador or Legat against the law of nations The second by Lewis himselfe for their Herely Rebellion So neither war was on the score of Religion purely The second vntruth is that the King of France dyed at the siege He finisht the war vnited those Countryes to the crowne on his way home he dyed at Monpensier in Auvergn See De Serres a Huguenot E. C. p. 7. You giue many instances of crueltys shewed towards Hereticks in Cabrieras Merindol Prouenc Vassy Germany the Lowcountryes c. To all I answer they were rebels stood in open defiance of the Ancient Laws establisht of their Princes commands E. C. p. 7. Pray for the fuller satisfaction in this thing beside D. Fowlis his History of their Rebellions Treasons read the vngratefull be hauiour of the Papists Priests towards the Imperial Indulgent crown of England Answ I will not vndertake to vindicate the actions of all Papists that haue been I speake for those aliue If any here to fore were really guilty of Treason I excuse them not yet the late proceedings against Catholicks althô certainly Innocent yet charged with the most heauy Accusations imaginable ground a suspition that their Ancestors may haue had hard measure in that kind Howeuer if our fore fathers left any blot on their Religion by some illegall attempts Catholicks since haue washt it out with their Bloud And I pray God with all my hart that all Protestants were as faith full to the Royal interest as Papists are In your pages 8. 9. I find nothing worth mentioning but a saying of Aeneas Syluius that nothing is giuen at Rome but for mony not euen jmposition of hands what you cite out of Caramuel that a Priest may kill a Detractor As to Aeneas Syluius he recalled all those writings being made Pope Pius II. This is so fals that Absolution which is one imposition of hands was neuer refused any man vpon score of Pouerty And as for Caramuel that proposition is condemned by Alexander VIII Caramuel hath no credit euen in his own order he is a Bernardin his writings being forbidden amongst them vnder great Penaltys E. C. p. 10. The Pope is called by Papists our Lord God the Pope Answer those words are found but once that in a Glossa which sort of writings are little regarded by our Divines Howeuer you haue no reason to reproach vs with that expression who say the same of all Kings pag. 16. of all men pag. 21. E. C. p. 11. Bellarmin says God hath giuen to the Pope the Power to make sin to be no sin no sin to be sin Answer this imports no more then that God gaue the Pope to oblige by his laws the conscience of the Faithfull in things indifferent viz eating flesh on a wednesday which of it self is no sin but is a sin when forbidden But Bellarmin expressely says that the Pope cannot make Lawfull a thing of it self cuil as Theft or Murther nor vnlawfull a thing of it self good as the loue of God E. C. p. 11. What could stirr the Roman Catholicks vp to that dreadfull Rebellion massacre in Ireland where in cold Blood were murdered aboue 100000. Protestants without the least prouocation but only the Indispensable necessity to kill Hereticks Answer The late King knew other reasons These are his words The preposterous vigour vnreasonable seuerity which some men carryed before them in England was not the least incenture that kinaled blew vp into those horrid flames the despair of discontent which wanted not predisposed fewel for Rebellion in Ireland where Dispayre being added to their former discontens the Feares of vtter extirpation to their wonted oppressions it was easy to prouoke to an open Rebellion a People prone enough to breake out to all exorbitant violence both by some Principles of their Religion the natural desire of Liberty both to exempt themselues from their present restraints to preuent those after rigours where with they saw themselues apparently threatned by the Couetous zeale vn●haritable fury of some men who think it a greate argument of the Truth of their Religion to endure no other but their own The Rebells were exasperated to the most desperate Resolutions Actions by being threatned with all extremitys not only to the knowne heads cheise Incendiarys but euen to the whole community

of the Nation resoluing to destroy Root Branch men women children without any regard to those vsual pleas for mercy which Conquerors not wholy barbarous are wont to hear from their own breasts in behalfe of those whose opprestiue faces rather then their malice engaged them or whose imbecillity for sex or age was such as they could neither lift vp a band against them Thus his late Majesty Here you see Sir not a little but a great manifold cause Prouocation to that Rebellion which I do not intend to justify viz. 1. Desire of Liberty in a nation subject to a foreigner 2. Wonted oppressions 3. Discontents grounded on them 4. Despayre being threatned with vtter extirpation Roote Branch man woman Child When you haue considered this you will conclude that very little of that Rebellion can be charged on Religion So your saying it was without the least cause or Pronocation is Rash false vn charitable Moreouer the readiness with which the Irish accepted a Cessation of Armes when offred by his Majesty as you may see in that place althô without that cessation the Protestant Party had perisht shews the Irish sought self Preservation as the King says not destruction of Hereticks as you fasly surmise All which I say not to excuse al the Irish Actions but to discouer your want of truth and charity in charging all on Religion which is Innocent euen when those who professe it offend because shee teaches not nor approues those offences Pag. 11. 12. You relate some words actions of some Popes which I think Religion not concerned in seing it doth not oblige vs to think them impeccable in words or Actions What if a testy Pope sayd either he would haue Philip's Crowne or Philip should haue his Miter it was a Passionate expression And if S. Gregory congratulated Phocas his being Emperour commended his Mercifull Acts it may as well betaken for an exhortation to mercy as relation of what he was Pag. 13. You charge Religion with the massacre of Paris althô done without the Pope's knowledge resolued on by the King to rid his kindome of those who had lately endangered his Crowne It was a pain of Rebellion not of Heresy Pag. 14. You cite strange things out of Frasuis du veron Bonarcius white Mariana Who hauing all been condemned by Catholicks none aliue reading them as far as I know Catholicks cannot with any colour of Iustice be charged with their writings If you please to look backe to 42. you will heare all Pulpits ringing with and Prints speaking of as desperate things as in any of of those writers as far as I know of them Pag. 15. You serue vp againe your cold cabbadge the Council of Lateran the war on the Albigenses To which I haue already answerd E. C. p. 15. With what pompous ceremonys do they hallow those Instruments which are to do the blessed worke By what charming names do they call that Bloudy wretch who is to be employed in the Horrible Business No lesse then Elected son of God Blessed vessel the Arme of the Almyghty to execute his Iustice How they blasphemously come before their Altars with a seeming feruent zeale pray to the God of Heauen That all the Saints may arise giue place vnto him that the Lod may appeare to be his strength to in fuse into him the Beames of his Consolation How do they Diuilishly whe edle him into a beleife that there is a celestial splendour shining round his head like the skin of Moses his face appearing with so greate abryghtness that they are not capable of looking on him without Trembling Confu●ion How do they throw themselues prostrate at his Feete pretend that he is no more a mortal but changed into a Deity And how they tell the credulous Cully that he will by so glorious an Action be certainly freed from the paines of Purgatory immediatly translated into Paradise there be swallowed vp of Eternall Delights satisfactions I haue giuen this place at large that you may see the Malice Impertinency of it In what place did this happen what man euersaw it what Authour euer mentioned it The Bishop of Lincolne in his Annotations on the speechs of the fiue Iesuites was the first that euer mentioned it as far I could euer discouer till he name another I shall take him to be the Authour of this Fable Yet it hath lost nothing in your hands The splendour of his face like that of Moses Papists falling at his Feet are of your inuention And who can tell what further Additions may be made by others For in these jmaginary spaces of Fictions who can six any bounds to Ministers who without scruple tell any lye as a Truth But the successe is quite other then you pretend for thus labouring in vaine to proue vs guilty you effectually proue vs Innocent I assure you that when any of our Church shall write against you he will find Truth enough to say without hauing recourse to such lyes E. C. p 17. They hold it to be no sin Not to keepe Faith nor Peace not to obserne either Truth or Honesty towards Hereticks it is no deceite to Equiuocate with them in priuate Dealings or Publick Transactions 't is no Dishonesty to cheate them of what they haue no Periury to breake Oaths with them no Toes to rob or spoile them 't is no inhumanity to burn their Houses ouer their heads no Murther to kill them altho KINGS and PRINCES in a word t is no sin for all Relations to deny them what God hath made their Respectiue Dutys Answ We disown this Doctrine in all its parts our liues confute it sufficiently but yours is so conformable to it that we may think it a description of your owne practice Adde only th● hiring men of desperate fortunes flagitious liues to beare fals● witnesse against Innocent Papists with vast rewards applauding their Depo●●tions ●ho●gh euidently false accompanyed with that infallible signe of a lye contradictions condemning honest loyal subjects vpon such mocke euidence to the greatest Penaltys which the law appoints for real Traitors c. and we haue a perfect picture of your proceedings with Papists Stupor mirabilia facta sunt in terrà Prophetae prophetabant mendacium Sacerdotes applaudebant manibus suis populus meus dilexit talia quid ergo fiet in nouissimis eius Hierem 5.30.31 A wonderfull horrible thing is committed in the Land England the Prophetes Oates Dugdale Prophecy falsly the Preists Ministers applaude this with their hands my People vpon whom I haue showred so many Blessings Loue all this what will become of them in the end E. C. pag. Jf Murthering of Hereticks should really be a sin as none of them will acknowledge yet so long as the Preists Iesuites shall tell them to the contrary nay shall cry it vp for a signal Act