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A96323 A vvhisper in the eare. Or A discourse between the Kings Maiesty, and the high court of Parliament. Concerning a pacification, and conditions of peace. / By a scholler of Oxford, and a Citizen of London. Scholler of Oxford.; Citizen of London. 1643 (1643) Wing W1676; Thomason E244_43; ESTC R18700 6,217 10

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A VVhisper in the eare OR A DISCOURSE BETWEEN THE KINGS MAIESTY AND THE HIGH COVRT OF PARLIAMENT Concerning a Pacification and Conditions of PEACE By a Scholler of Oxford and a Citizen of London OXFORD Printed by Leonard Lichfield Printer to the Vniversity 1642. A Conference between a Gentleman of Oxford and a Citizen of London Cit. NOble Sir y' are welcome more and most welcome all the degrees of welcome thrice welcome you have beene and shall to my house and to the best entertainment I may or can afford you Gent. Deserving friend you have really shewed it and I have experimentally found it for which I must ingenuously acknowledge that I am deeply engaged in the debt-booke of your love and so farre ●●nae in arrerage upon the score of your favour that for the present though I am your obliged debtor yet for the future I shall endeavor by all faire and civill respects to demeane my selfe as your vowed devoted and most gratefull servant for to you I may well say as sometimes Aeschines said to Alexander Debeotibi meipsum I owe you my very selfe Cit. Sir you transcend the spheare of my deservings and assure your selfe I am all yours Gent. You are all goodnesse the cord of whose fidelity hath so firmely tyed me unto you that I am yours soly and yours inseperably yours perpetually upon all occasions wheresoever whensoever or in whatsoever you shall vouchsafe to command me Cit. Sir all the favour that at this time I shall request of you is onely that you would be pleased to impart unto me the late passages and occurrances which have beene in agitation at Oxford where His Majesty hath been and is now resident The state of the whole Kingdome is concerned therein and we Londoners are of the Athenians humor and disposition desirous and inquisitive to heare newes Gent. Indeed 't is the demand of all men now a dayes in all places wheresoever they come what novelty is abroad harke in your eare the times are now growne so perilous that to be an honest man its a dangerous matter and who is truly religious in these destracted daies wherein most men have a forme of godlinesse but deny the power thereof its a difficult question to determine There are so many Sectaries sprung up amongst us that more for number and the like to these for nature was never knowne in the memory of man Hence it is that so many men so many townes Cities nay whole Counties are divided Some are for the King others altogether for his great Councell the Parliament Wiltshire and the County of Salop are wholy for the King as by their ingagement and resolution doth appeare Hartfordshire and Buckinghamshire cum multis altis are as much for the Parliament and are fully resolved to hazard their lives in the Parliaments cause Cit. 'T is strange that such divisions should bee amongst such loyall subjects under so royall a Soveraign for though Prince and people have been happy a long time to the admiration of other Nations yet never did the King and Kingdom suffer more then both these have done of late Gent. 'T is not so strange as true I le tell you the ground of it Harke in your eare In these our present distractions when forraigne forces threaten and probably invited and a Malignant Party at home offended The Envious one that grand Impostor hath cast a bone raised a contestation between the King and his two Houses of Parliament touching the Militia His Majesty claimes the disposing of it to be in him by right of Law the Parliament sayth rebus sio stantibus and nolente Rege the ordering of it is in them That ordinance of the Militia without the Kings consent hath been a fomenter of his Malitia and was one of the bones of our unhappy division Cit. I am of your mind that that was the first fuell to the fire of this unnaturall warre Gent. There was not wanting other matter to encrease this flame Listen and I le tell you the keeping the King out of Hull and taking his Armes and Ammunition from him Cit. But with your favour Sir these were not taken from the King but for the King and good ground is there for it for the high and honourable Court of Parliament is His Majesties just and faithfull Councell and what soever they doe or have at any time done is upon grave advice and in mature deliberation and doth undoubtedly tend to the good and benefit of the King and the whole Kingdome Gent. You say well yet give me leave to tell you that the Kings Councellours at Oxford are of another opinion They confesse it is so pretended but the quere is whether is he so intended If it be why is his Navy at sea imployed against him why have they made an ordinance for setling Customes without an Act of Parliament when an act of this Parliament declares that no Custome is due without an Act all such persons as receive the same incurre the forfeiture of a premunire Hereupon His Majesty hath set forth a Proclamation at his Court at Oxford the 16. day of this present moneth prohibiting the payment and receit of Customes and other maritime duties upon that late ordinance of both Houses of Parliament In the Proclamation His Majesty doth relate that the monyes arising from these duties are to support an unnatural rebellion against him and to foment an intestine and civill dissention and doth thereby declare to all his people of what sort soever that whosoever henceforward shall by vertue of the pretended Ordinance of Parliament pay any monyes for custome or other duties therein mentioned other then to his proper ministers what is due to him by the knowne Lawes of the Kingdom that he will proceed against him or them in due time as an ilaffected person or persons to the peace of this Kingdome Cit. 'T is impossible that such an aggregate body as the Parliament is can or should do any injury either to the King or his three Kingdomes Gent. I assent to you in that It is not the Parliament for that assembly is Fens Iustitiae but some Malignant members of the representative body which have been taxed by the King in his severall Declarations Cit. The King stands for his Prerogative the Parliament for their priviledge about these there are a great distance and greivous difference between them both insomuch that both are displeased and ' it s much feared that nothing but the sword can decide their controversie I would to God it were once sheathed I am sure so long as it is brandished over our heads 't is a sad Omen of fatall destruction and doth menace ruine and desolation to the Kingdome of England Warre is the way to destroy all and of all warre a Civill warre is the worst and at this time our land is so fruitfull of such monsters who like so many Neroes are ready to destroy their owne mother How many Myriads of barbarous men