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A86047 The replication of Master Glyn, in the name of all the Commons of England, to the generall answer of Thomas Earle of Strafford, Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, to the severall charges exhibited against him in Parliament by the house of Commons, April the 13. 1641. Glynne, John, Sir, 1603-1666.; England and Wales. Parliament. House of Commons. 1641 (1641) Wing G891; Thomason E207_10; ESTC R17729 8,588 22

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Lords that he when all the lights of Justice were open should execute such punishment on a Peere of the Realme of Ireland as sufficiently appeares doth plainly demonstrate his mischievous intents My Lords That he which is under the Law should take a power above Law nay without and against Law in putting a man to death My Lords I shall not omit somewhat hee thereupon said That he hoped to have pardon of your Lordships therefore if he did any thing amisse therein Moreover my Lords hee adjudged my Lord Corks estate a lay fee dependant upon the Church and deprived him thereof by a paper petition which was a course usuall with my Lord of Strafford to put men out of their inheritance against all law or equity My Lords He goes further and saith That he would make my Lord Corke and all Ireland know That Acts of Councell are equall and should be as binding to the Subjects of that Kingdome as Acts of Parliament My Lords Here he judged also another though a Peere puts him out of his inheritance and yet cannot finde one president to ground him for his so doing The next is the 27. Article whereto hee makes his defence when as hee was not yet charged And whereas he alleadgeth That seeing the Warrant he sent he presently recalled it and recalled it willingly therefore he hopes favour from your Lordships My Lords The Warrant was three whole yeares in execution before it was recalled Your Lordships have heard he is not contented herewith but spreads it over the face of the whole Kingdome and arrogates authority to himselfe above the Lawes in his answer to the 10. Article touching his notorious abusing of the King in his Customes He pretends It is rather matter of fraud than otherwise which tends to his Majesties so great disservice and this plainly appeares for the King hath lost thereby extreamly His Majestie lost 5000. pound per an of the olde Rents And my Lords for the Earle of Strafford he hath gotten 100000 pounds by Tobaco at least besides his other Monopolies My Lords In pursuance of his intents hee crost the proceedings of the whole court of parliament in Ireland The next charge against him is upon the nineteenth Article For endeavoring the subversion of the fundamentall lawes of both kingdomes and that he should compell conscience by forcing the Kings subjects there to take an oath contrary to Law and justice My Lords this his designe to subvert the Law and exercise power above the Law was a designe conceived in his heart long before it was executed That the King might doe every thing that power would admit and that the King if hee pleased might reduce this kingdome to obedience by the army he had in Ireland My Lord Primate testifies That before the Parliament he said That if the Parliament would not apply themselves to his Majesty the King was acquitted before God and man and might make use of his prerogative My Lord Conway chargeth him with the same adding withall That if hee tooke this course the people would give 12 Subsidies Whereupon a Parliament was called but soone by his meanes dissolved and so the Kings necessities unsupplied Either therefore my Lord of Strafford must bee thought a Prophet of else that he projected and effected the dissolution of the Parliament The next Article is That he told and counselled his Majesty That the City was undutifull and unthankfull and that no good would be done with them till they were made an example and layd by the heeles and some of the Aldermen hanged up My Lords That he gave this counsel plainly appeares for thereupon foure Aldermen were instantly committed So that it is evident the Earle of Strafford had premeditated this designe Now my Lords put all these together whether the occasion of the warre and dissolving of the Parliament were not the end of his devices and counsels to bring this kingdom to an arbitrary and tyrannicall government So my Lords if words intentions if counsels and actions of such dangerous consequence to whole kingdomes be a sufficient evidence of a designe to subvert the Lawes I hope I have satisfied your Lordships therein And so my Lords I have done with the proofes on the Commons side My Lords I mentioned the seventeenth Article before which spake of making a Warrant to levy the Kings money by force This my Lords was acted at the command of the Deputie as it is confessed by Sir William Pennyman My Lords It is plaine my Lord of Strafford commanded it for Sir William saith that the Warrant was made at the pursuance of the direction of my Lord of Strafford Put all these together and I doubt not but he will bee found and it will plainely appeare he is the occasion of all the evils that have fallen upon the Nation wherewith hee is charged in this article I come now my Lords to the last passage my Lord of Strafford hath exprest which I will observe For the first my Lords please you to take notice how he begs your pitty and compassion My Lords If he had exercised compassion towards others hee might perhaps have expected some extenuation some mitigation of his offences But when he hath beene the Incendiary to so many mischiefes and calamities which have befallen and infested his Majesties Subjects both in England Scotland and Ireland how can he hope or expect but that the reward of his hands be given him My Lords Your Lordships have heard him often say it is very strange he should be questioned for words being no matter of fact and therefore to sweep away him and his posterity from among the living for things as he saith of no consequence of no solidity at all is very hard My Lords I answer what respect what pitty or Christian compassion did he ever demonstrate when he was in his Kingdome in Ireland when he caused those that refused to pay to bee committed when hee compelled the great Councell of the Kingdome to stoope to his devices when he trampled on the Peeres and oppressed the Kings subjects with what great indignity did he use them how did he insult upon people of all rankes My Lords He is charged with offences of the highest nature And whereas he alleadgeth by way of excuse that if these things bee made crimes the affaires of the Kingdome will be left so waste and desolate that no man of wisdome will meddle with them Please my Lord of Strafford therefore take notice That the Kings Ministers ought to serve his Majesty according to Law and no otherwise Can he then my Lords pin these misdemeanours as he calls them upon his Majesty which no prudent Statesman ever did What is it but Treason to make the cause of the groanes and sighes of his Majesties subjects to proceed from his sacred Majesty This is a course no wise Minister ever practised thus to question his great Master and as much as in him lies to make the subject weary of serving and the King of protecting What is this but to make his Majestie thinke That his Royall prerogative is neither comprehended within the limits of Law nor the bounds of Reason For if he had not an intention to subvert the Lawes why should hee suggest these things into the Kings eares what is this my Lords but as much as in him lies to confound all Law What is this but to make his Majesty think that the protection and defence of his people is the way to his ruin destruction To make the people begin to loath the Crowne and the King hate his people and should I often repeat it sure I am there is so much candor in the Kings heart that it will justifie what I have said My Lords There is no greater safety to Prince or People than to have the Throne established by good Counsellors and no greater danger can befall a Kingdome than to have such who are wicked and dangerous He alleadgeth for himselfe the great hazzard every Counsellor will run if they shall be questioned for giving their Counsells freely according to their oathes who then saith he will be a Counsellor My Lords For many yeares you know it and I cannot without griefe of heart once mention it there hath been an evill spirit of contention that hath moved and stirred amongst us which hath been the author and fomenter of all our distractions viz. Necessity and Danger These evill Counsells have brought the King into necessity and necessity hath ever had danger its attendant The foundations hereof are laid upon that of Shipmoney and dissolution of Parliaments by perswading the King not to sticke to any rules of government but to governe without rule or Law But I pray my Lords consider what ill courses my Lord of Straffords Councells have produced and how pestilent to both Kingdomes Your Lordships may remember how he hath scandalized some Peeres of your Realme of Ireland when he openly exprest at the Parliament there That things were carried against him by faction and correspondence and what threats he then used to terrifie them To conclude all my Lords The Earle of Strafford is here arraigned of high Treason for going about to subvert the fundamentall Lawes of the Kingdome My Lords You are sons of the same Ancestors that enacted maintained and preserved these Lawes which he would have ruined and the same blood runs in your Veines You cannot my Lords thinke him worthy to live who hath attempted these things against all Law What Law hath he not broken He hath attempted the ruine of three Kingdomes at one blow it was by him projected but blessed be our good God here it stopt it was never effected Therefore my Loeds if you would be safe or live in peace and still enjoy those Lawes for the maintenance whereof your Fathers shed their dearest blood then cast this Ionas who yet lies asleep on the bed of security into the Sea lest the Ship of the Common-wealth split and sinke My Lords It is a cause concernes the King and here is the remonstrance of the Kingdomes of England Scotland and Ireland who all humbly beg it My Lords What the danger and horror of it would have produced had these mischiefes been brought to birth I leave to your great judgements seriously to consider And thus my Lords have I delivered the charge given me by the House of Commons as briefly and plainly as I could and therefore doe here with all humility conclude and submit FINIS