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A81741 The northern subscribers plea, vindicated from the exceptions laid against it by the non-subscribing ministers of Lancashire and Cheshire, and re-inforced by J. Drew. Published according to order. Drew, John, fl. 1649-1651. 1651 (1651) Wing D2165; Thomason E638_11; ESTC R206635 62,703 75

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