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A54191 A perswasive to moderation to dissenting Christians in prudence and conscience humbly submitted to the King and his great council by one of the humblest and most dutiful of his dissenting subjects. Penn, William, 1644-1718. 1685 (1685) Wing P1337A; ESTC R28423 35,496 61

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will end these forregin Instances with a Prince and Bishop all in one and he a Roman Catholick too and that is the Bishop of Mentz who admits with a very Peaceable success such Lutherains with his Catholicks to enjoy their Churches as live in his Town of Erford Thus does Practice tells us that neither Monarchy nor Hierarchy are in danger from a Toleration On the contrary the Laws of the Empire which are the Acts of the Emperor and the Soveraign Princes of it have tolerated these three Religious Perswasions viz. the Roman-Catholick Lutherain and Calvanist and they may as well tolerate three more for the same Reasons and with the same Success For it is not their greater nearerness or consistency in Doctrine or in Worship On the contrary they differ much and by that and other Circumstances are sometimes engaged in great Controversies yet is a Toleration practicable the way of Peace with them And which is closest to our point at home it self we see that a Toleration of the Iews French and Dutch Churches in England both Dissenters from the National Way And the Connivance that has been in Ireland And the down-right Toleration in most of his Majesties Plantations abroad proves the Assertion That Toleration is not dangerous to Monarchy For Experience tells us where it is in any degree admitted the King's Affairs prosper most People Wealth and Strength being sure to follow such Indulgence But after all that I have said in Reason and Fact why Toleration is safe to Monarchy Story tells us that worse things have befallen Princes in Countries under Ecclesiastical Vnion than in places under divided forms of Worship and so tolerating Countries stand to the Prince more than upon equal terms with conforming ones And where Princes have been exposed to hardship in tolerating Countries they have as often come from the Conforming as Non-conforming party and so the Dissenter is upon equal terms to the Prince or State with the Conformist The first is evident in the Iews under the conduct of Moses their Dissention came from the men of their own Tribes such as Corah Dathan and Abiram with their pertakers To say nothing of the Gentiles The Miseries and Slaughters of Mauritius the Emperor proves my point who by the greatest Church-men of his time was withstood and his Servant that perpetrated the Wickedness by them substituted in his room because more officious to their Grandure What power but that of the Church dethron'd Childrek King of France and set Pippin in his place The miseries of the Emperors Henry the fourth and fifth Father and Son from their rebellious Subjects raised and animated by the power of Conformists dethroning both as much as they could are notorious 'T is as plain that Sigismond King of Sweedland was rejected by that Lutherain Country because he was a Roman-Catholick If we come nearer home which is most suitable to the Reasons of the discourse we find the Church-men take part with William Rufus and Henry the first against Robert their elder Brother and after that we see some of the greatest of them make Head against their King namely Anselm Arch-Bishop of Canterbury and his party as did his Successor Thomas of Becket to the second Henry Stephen Usurpt the Crown when there was a Church Vnion And King John lived miserable for all that and at last dyed by one of his own Religion too The Dissentions that agitated the Reign of his Son Henry the third and the Barrons War with Bishop Grosteeds Blessing to Mumford their General The Deposition and Murther of the second Edward Richard sixth Henry and his Son the Prince The Vsurpation of Richard the third and the Murther of the Sons of Edward the fourth in the Tower of London The civil War that followed between him and the Earl of Richmond afterwards our wise Henry the seventh were all perpetrated in a Country of one Religion and by the Hands of Conformists In short if we will but look upon the civil War that so long raged in this Kingdom between the Houses of York and Laneaster and consider that they professed but one and the same Religion and both back't with numbers of Church-men too to say nothing of the Miserable end of many of our Kings princely Ancestors in Scotland especially the first and third James will find cause to say That Church-Vniformity is not a Security for Princes to depend upon If we will look next into Countries where Dissenters from the National Church are tolerated we shall find the Conformist not less Culpable than the Dissenter The Disorders among the Iews after they were settled in the Land that God had given them came not from those they tolerated but themselves They cast off Samuel and the Government of the Judges 'T was the Children of the National Church that fell in with the Ambition of Absolom and animated the Rebellion against his Father David They were the same that revolted from Solomon's Son and cryed in behalf of Jeroboam To your Tents O Israel Not two Ages ago the Church of France too generally fell in with the Family of Guise against their lawful Soveraign Henry the fourth Nor were they without Countenance of the greatest of their Belief who stiled it an holy War at that time fearing not without cause the Defection of that Kingdom from the Roman See In this conjuncture the Dissenters made up the best part of that King's Armies and by their Loyalty and Blood preserved the Blood Royal of France and set the Crown on the Head of that Prince That King was twice assinated and the last time murdered as was Henry the third his Predecessor but they fell one by the hand of a Church-man the other at least by a Conformist 'T is true that the next civil War was between the Catholicks and the Hugenots under the conduct of Cardinal Richlien and the Duke of Roan But as I will not justifie the Action so their Liberties and Cautions so solemnly settled by Henry the fourth as the reward of their singular Merit being by the Ministry of that Cardinal invaded they say they did but defend their own and that rather against the Cardinal than the King whose softness suffered him to become a property to the great Wit and Ambition of that Person And there is this Reason to believe them that if it had been otherwise we are sure that King Charles the first would not in the least have countenanced their Quarrel However the Cardinal like himself wisely knew when to stop For though he thought it the Interest of the Crown to moderate their greatness and check their growth yet having fresh in Memory the Story of the fore-going Age he saw ' twaswise to have a Ballance upon occasion But this was more then recompenc'd in their first Adhesion to the Crown of France under the Ministry and Direction of the succeeding Cardinal when their Perswasion had not only Number and many good Officers to value it self upon but
help by private Collections to support him abroad and after the Overthrow of Sir G. Booth's Attempt to almost a Miracle restore him And which is more a great part of that Army too whose Victories rise from the Ruin of the Prince they restored But to give the last Proofs our Age has of the power of Interest against the Notion opposed by this Discourse First the Independants themselves held the greatest Republicans of all Parties were the most Lavish and Superstitous Adorers of Monarchy in Oliver Cromwell because of the regard he had to them allowing him and his Son after him to be Custos Vtriusque Tabule over all Causes as well Ecclesiastical as Civil Supream Governour And next the Conformists in Parliament reputed the most Loyal and Monarchical men did more than any body question and oppose the late King's Declaration of Indulgence even They themselves would not allow so much Prerogative to the Crown This proves the Power of Interest and that all Perswasions center with it And when they see the Government engaging them with a fix't Liberty of Conscience they must for their own sakes seek the Support of it by which it is maintained This Vnion directed under the Prince's Conduct would awe the greatness of our Neighbours and soon return Europe to its antient Ballance and that into his hand too So that he may be the great Arbiter of the Christian World But if the Policy of the Government places the Security of its Interest in the Distruction of the civil Interest of the Dissenters it is not to be wondered at if they are less found in the praises of its Conduct than others to whom they are offered up a Sacrifice by it I know it will be insinuated That there is danger in builing upon the Vnion of divers Interests and this will be aggravated to the Prince by such as would engross his Bonny and intercept his Grace from a great part of his People But I will only oppose to that meer Suggestion three Examples to the contrary with this Challange That if after rummaging the Records of all Time they find one Instance to contradict me I shall submit the Question to their Authority The First is given by those Christian Emperors who admitted of all sorts of Dissenters into their Armies Courts and Senates This the Ecclesiastical Story of those Times assures us and particularly Socrates Evagrius and Onuphrius The Next Instance is that of Prince William of Orange who by a timely Indulgence united the scattered strength of Holland and all animated by the Clemency as well as Valour of their Captain crown'd his Attempts with an extraordinary Glory and what makes continues Great The last is given us by Livy in his account of Hannibals Army That they consisted of divers Nations Languages Customs Religions That under all their successes of War and Peace for Thirteen Years together they never mutinied against their General nor fell out among themselves What Livy relates for a Wonder the Marquess Virgilio Malvetzy gives the Reason of to wit their Variety and Difference well managed by their General for said he It was impossible for so many Nations Customs and Religions to combine especially when the General 's equal hand gave him more Reverence with them than they had of affection for one another This says he some would wholly impute to Hannibal but however great he was I attribute it to the variety of People in the Army For adds he Rome's Army was ever less given to Mutiny when ballanced with Auxiliary Legions then when intirely Roman Thus much in his Discourses upon Cornelius Tacitus And they are neither few nor of the weakest sort of men that have thought the Concord of Discords the firmest Basis for Government to build upon The business is to Tune them well and that must be by the skill of the Misitian In Nature we see all Heat consumes all Cold kills That three Degrees of Cold to two of Heat allays the Heat but introduces the contrary Quality and over-cools by a Degree but two Degrees of Cold to two of Heat makes a Poize in Elements and a Ballance in Nature And in those Families where the evenest Hand is carried the Work is best done and the Master is most reverenced This brings me to another benefit which accrues to the Monarchy by a Toleration and that is a Ballance at home For though it be improbable it may so happen that either the conforming or non-conforming Party may be ●●…tiful the one is then a Ballance to the other This might have prevented much Mischief to our second and third Henry King John the second Edward and Richard and unhappy Henry the sixth as it undeniably saved the Royal Family of France and secured Holland and kept it from truckling under the Spanish Monarchy While all hold of the Government 't is that which gives the Scale to the most Datiful but still no farther than to show Its Power and awe the disorderly into Obedience not to destroy the Ballance lest It should afterwards want the means of Over-poizing Faction That this is more than Fancy plain it is that the Dissenter must firmly adhear to the Government for his Being while the Church-man is provided for The one subsists by its Mercy the other by its Bounty This is ty'd by Plenty but that by Necessity which being the last of Tyes and strongest of Obligations the Security is greatest from him that it is fancied most unsafe to Tolerate But besides this the Tranquility which it gives at Home will both oblige those that are upon the Wing for Forreign Parts to pitch here again and at a time when our Neighbouring Monarch is wasting his People excite those Sufferers into his Majesties Kingdoms whose Number will encrease that of his Subjects and their Labour and Consumption the Trade and Wealth of his Dominions For what are all Conquests but of People And if the Government may by Indulgence add the Inhabitants of Ten Cities to those of its own it obtains a Victory without charge The Antient Persecution of France and the Low Countries has furnisht us with an invincible Instance for of those that came hither on that account we were instructed in most useful Manufacturies as by courses of the like nature we lost a great part of our Woollen Trade And as men in times of danger draw in their Stock and either transmit it to other Banks or bury their Talent at home for security that being out of sight it may be out of reach too and either is fatal to a Kingdom So this mildness entreated setting every mans Heart at rest every man will be at work and the Stock of the Kingdom employed which like the Blood that hath its due passage will give Life and Vigour to every Member in the publick Body And here give me leave to mention the Experiment made at Home by his late Majesty in his Declaration of Indulgence No matter how well or ill built the act of