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A50474	Cardinal Mazarin's letters to Lewis XIV, the present King of France, on his love to the Cardinal's niece together with his secret negotiation with Don Lewis D'Haro, chief minister to the King of Spain.; Correspondence. English. Selections	Mazarin, Jules, 1602-1661.; Louis XIV, King of France, 1638-1715.; Méndez de Haro, Luis, 1598-1661.	1691 (1691)	Wing M1540; ESTC R5209	91,866	304

This last Conference held above Five hours and in a word there has been nothing at all determined in it for Don Lewis spent the greatest part of the time in making me entreaties and used all imaginable means to oblige me to consent that the King of Spain should give to Monsieur the Prince a Recompence proportionable to the great losses he had fustained in his service Their Majesties will easiy believe that I was not much moved with Don Lewis's earnest entreaties but being on the contrary weary with hearing so much said on one Affair on which I had before declared to him what I could do and it seeming to me that he was much to blame to lose fruitlesly a time so precious which should be employed in giving the last stroke to the Treaty of Peace which had been already Concluded Signed and Ratified I made him therefore plainly understand that I came perswaded that we should not spend Three Hours time in agreeing about all points which had been remitted to be adjusted here but yet I saw that we had lost Fifteen in Three Conferences and that when he should speak to me an Hundred times on the business of Monsieur the Prince I could never return him any new Answer Don Lewis being a Spaniard besides the Phlegmatick Humour of his Nation is naturally slow and irresolute and as far as I can see it 's no difficult matter to divert him from concluding an Affair when he is shewn any difficulty in it It 's no hard matter to discern what is purely his own and what is suggested to him by others for I know very well that in the Two first Conferences and even in this last he was partly perswaded by my Reasons and that he had nothing to expect in behalf of Monsieur the Prince Yet he always returned fortified with what Lainet and the other Adherents of this Prince have told him I know likewise that he has receiv'd Letters from Brussels to press him hereupon and perhaps these Persons have perswaded him that I would yield at last to his Instances I see him then furiously harass'd by what Lainet and others tell him by the Letters which Monsieur the Prince writes him and by the good Offices which Caracene and the other Spanish Officers whose Interest is to hinder the Peace do for him with Don Lewis Neither do I doubt but it has been suggested to him That holding out he will compass all and that rather than I should return with the rupture of the Peace I will consent to what ever he would have me It 's moreover certain that whatever the French partakers with Monsieur the Prince or engaged in his service write here to Lainet and to the Prince in Flanders is lively represented to Don Lewis and especially what Croisy has sent several times to Brussels which is to say That Don Lewis holding out will obtain for the Prince more than he desires not only because a greater Misfortune cannot happen to me than not to finish the Treaty of Peace by the ill effect which this would produce in the minds of all People who would be able to procure my Ruine seeing it would be no hard matter to perswade the World that I had been the cause of this rupture and all the evils with which it would be apparently follow'd but because he farther knows it being confirm'd to him by the Advices of Persons well inform'd of the present State of the Kingdom of the impossibility of raising Money of which I am as sensible as any one on which account I cannot imagine to continue the War and so much the rather that I also know the Cabals are ready in case of a rupture to break out upon me I know as having seen them that there have been several Memoirs sent from Paris to Monsieur to Prince who has sent them by an express Messenger to Lainet tending all of 'em to oblige Don Lewis to stand firm in what respects Monsieur the Prince of Conde and to insinuate that should he be obliged to continue the War every thing would change for the advantage of Spain And the Prince being interressed that Don Lewis should thus believe it 's not to be doubted but he sends him word that England will be for them That he has great Parties in France who will act strenuously for him if the Peace be not made But if he can oblige Don Lewis to continue the War I hope he will find things in a different posture than that wherein they have been represented to him and that the Crown of Spain will thereby receive the prejudice I observe to you whatever may make Don Lewis hold the Conduct he does to the end their Majesties may see that I have not only his Humour to combate with but in general the Spirit of all ill Frenchmen who from several Reasons hinder the finishing of a Work which destroys all their hopes of troubling the Kingdom and puts them out of a condition to shew themselves I will now pass to the informing you the most succinctly as I can of the most essential matters which Don Lewis proposed to me in this last Conference in relation to Monsieur the Prince He took great care to exaggerate the Passion which Monsieur the Prince had to acquire my good will which he as much valued as the greatest Place which could be given him That he knew this Prince spake herein sincerely That he could shew it me by a private Advice he had received hereupon since Twenty Four Hours and that if I would he would make him come Post here with only Two Gentlemen as he himself desired being assured that if we came to the Speech of one another we should not depart without mutual satisfaction and thus all would be ended I rejected this Proposition makeing use for this of reasons which may easily come into any Man's mind and I declared to him in very obliging terms that I found no difficulty in my self of giving my Friendship to Monsieur the Prince with the greatest sincerity promising that if this Prince did what he ought in reference to the King there would be no Relations nor Friends in France from whom he might expect more marks of Service and Kindness than from me And I likewise told him That I would willingly give him a Blank on this condition for Monsieur the Prince to write his own terms hereupon but that with all the Protestations and un-interressedness which the Prince shew'd I intreated his Excellency to permit me to tell him That having treated for Ten or Twelve Years with him I must better know his Humour than his Excellency who knew him only by the Letters he received from him by the relations of the Agents and Adherents of this Prince and by the Conduct he had held for a certain time That having all his hope in the Protection which his Excellency promised him from the King of Spain he must be very imprudent if he had not held a very submissive

his returning to the charge on the point of Monsieur the Prince but having repeated to me the Declaration he had made me in the two preceeding he began by professing he was much perplexed in this Affair not only for the reasons he had with great prolixity deduced to me heretofore but like wise because this Prince had ordered his Agents who are here to solicit nothing but to approve entirely whatever Don Lewis would do touching his interests So that he found himself at present his Plenipotentiary but at the same time incapacitated to procure him any advantage He agreed with me that this was a cunning piece of dexterity for the Prince to do thus in a desperate case to try whether this way of proceeding might procure him any advantage which he could not hope for by any other means And continuing his discourse he insisted more than ever he had done That I would like Monsieur the Prince should come here and that seeing our selves together we might be good Friends which is what he most passionately desired that he Don Lewis greatly wisht the same as likewise to see this Prince the most faithful and zealous Servant the King can have That he believ'd as this was for the advantage of Monsieur the Prince so it was no less conducing to his Majesties Service and my credit He afterwards much insisted on the sincerity with which this Prince would faithfully and punctually execute whatever he had promised in relation to the King and my Person in particular and on the just apprehension of being undone if he dealt otherwise seeing he would not have only the King's power to fear but moreover the resentment of his Catholick Majesty the Infanta and of him Don Lewis who would become his greatest Enemies should he fail in the least particluar he had promised To which I replied That being assured of his good intentions and the freedom with which he spake to me I had all the grateful sense which I ought but that it was fit his Excellency should know something might so happen in France That not only the Prince of Conde would have a mind to stir but that he would do it without mattering the complaints which the King of Spain and his Excellency might make against him provided he therein found his advantage seeing it had been seen by experience as this Prince knew perhaps better than another that the Cabals Commotions and Revolutions of France had never deeper roots nor produced greater effects to the prejudice of its Kings than when it did not appear they had any relation to Spain because the French generally speaking were very prone to engage themselves in the Commotions exited by the great ones of the Kingdom for particular interests but regard with horror whatever tends to the making them enter into a Confederacy with Strangers and especially Spaniards from whence his Excellency might easily perceive whether there is reason to believe that Monsieur the Prince could be withheld by the fear of his Catholick Majesty and his Excellency in case he had a mind to do mischief and an opportunity offered He afterwards urged me to tell him whether 't was not possible for some security to be granted to the Prince as he knew had been given in France in several occasions to Persons of less quality than he I answered there was no Example of this usage to any body except the Protestants to whom the good of the State and other considerations required the giving some places which have since been drawn out of their hands that his security had been provided for by what had been inserted in his favour in the Treaty signed at Paris and that it was his own fault he had not a greater seeing that returning with a Resolution to live well and to serve faithfully the King not only he had nothing to apprehend but might expect favours from his bounty and generosity of which he had less reason to doubt than any body having had more experience of this than any Subject besides Don Lewis prest me afresh to obtain of the King that Monsieur the Prince might come hither saying for this he would owe me the greatest respect and hereby all would be ended to the Prince's satisfaction I answered it depended on him to give it himself in fifteen days time and I should have the honour of presenting him my self to the King and Queen and that he had nothingelse to do but to accept of the favours which the King and Queen offered him by the Treaty and this answer was the cause he spake to me no more about it but it was I who pursued the matter making him dextrously value the Overture I had made him to use my endeavours with the King to give some recompence in France to Monsieur the Prince if he gave himself his helping hand thereto in casting himself at the King's Feet and remitting to his Majesty the places which the Catholick King should give him which I did with the address I have already mention'd to you informing him that my proposing this Expedient had no other motive but the drawing his Excellency out of the perplexity he seemed to be in though I well knew I should have a great deal of trouble to make the King relish it because Monsieur the Prince would owe all the obligation of the favours I might procure him from the King to his Catholick Majesty his most Christian Majesty chusing rather generously to bestow some on him in another time when he shall deserve them than to grant him 'em at present as a Recompence for what he should yield to his Majesty I farther added That if he liked to s●nd me Caillet I would make him value the firmness with which his Excellency acted in favour of Monsieur the Prince and that I might moreover engage him to make me Propositions more positive than those he had made me going and coming from his Master on the remitting to the King the Places which his Catholick Majesty should give him But he told me he would have no body meddle in this Affair but himself and he seemed to me more tortured at my having reduced him to the point of making me necessarily know that he had no intention of giving such like Recompence to the Prince or that he had done it for an ill end that is to say to render him always dependent on the King of Spain and to put him into a condition to make one day use of such an Establishment to the great damage and disservice of this Crown And I press'd him in this occasion more than I had done in any before telling him That if the Prince and his Agents could discover the Overture I had made him they would not let him rest a day till they had prevail'd with him to take me at my word for otherwise they would not have stuck to have taken it for granted that his Excellency never had the thought really to oblige Monsieur the Prince seeing if he

of it desiring nothing more than to embrace all those which might put an end to this Negotiation without prejudicing the Honour or Service of the King But I must confess to you I was strangely surprised when I found by the discourse Pimentel held me that instead of offering me Proposals on the Overture I had made to use my endeavours with the King to obtain some new favour for Monsieur the Prince if he laid at his Majesties feet the Places should be given him by his Catholick Majesty he repeated to me the same things Don Lewis had mentioned to me to excite the King's Generosity and to oblige me to contribute what in me lay thereto and let slip before me that Don Lewis had promised to make him the happiest man in Spain if he could prevail with me on this point I replied to all this that I had reason to be angry with Don Lewis in thinking me capable to give at the stances of a Person whom he sent me what I had refused at his and as to the rest I took Monsieur Pimentel to be too honest a man to design the raising his own Fortune on the ruine of my Reputation After this I pretended to be in a passion at Don Lewis's Proceedings and to apprehend he had concealed Ends in these delays he brought in setling matters which might have been adjusted in one only Conference adding I did not doubt but if I imparted this manner of proceeding to the King his Majesty would command my return it being apparent this delay greatly prejudiced his Affairs For besides his losing several advantages which he might reasonably expect in this Campaign he is likewise obliged on the belief the Peace will be soon proclaimed to hold his Allies in Suspence who press him on all hands to make particular Treaties with them In fine to avoid the prolixity wherein I should fall were I to give a particular account of what past with Pimentel I shall content my self with assuring their Majesties that I sent him away as well satisfied with my reasons as I could be my self and in a disposition of apprehending greatly the Resolutions I might take thereupon and being not yet satisfied with whatever I had said to him I wrote to Monsieur de Lionne who was at Andaye to the end that communicating my Note to the Sieur Pimentel he might the more easily remember to represent the same things to Don Lewis and in a manner as earnest as I had explained my self in of which charge I do not doubt but he will well acquit himself hoping that in the first Conference Don Lewis will yield to the putting an end to this affair The business ended not here for continuing to speak to me still on Monsieur the Prince he told me he could safely call God to witness that he had no other motive in this pursuit than to see all Parties so well satisfied that there might never happen the least alteration in the Peace which was about concluding and that as my particular friend he would entrust me with a scruple which came into his head which was that he greatly apprehended lest the Infanta who on one hand had a great deal of wit and on the other a great deal of tenderness for the King her Father having heard talk of nothing else for several years but the great services Monsieur the Prince had rendred him that he had been the cause by the diversions made in France of the taking of Barcelona and the reduction of all Catalonia and other Advantages which Spain had obtained whether in taking Places from us and especially Cambray the preservation of which they believe they wholly owe to him that he apprehended I say That coming into France with all these things in her mind she should prevail in all occasions relating to the Prince's Service in procuring him the King's favour and all the marks of it he could desire which perhaps might not produce a good effect whether in relation to the Publick or what might particularly concern me I replied to him with a smiling Countenance that I found my self greatly obliged to him for his good intentions and the Friendship he shewed me in opening to me his heart on so nice an affair but I entreated him not to be much troubled at whatever might happen hereupon because that though I no ways doubted of the inclinations of the Serenissima Infanta towards Monsieur the Prince whom she loved as a faithful Servant of her Father and the Spanish Monarchy not knowing at present other interests than those of the King her Father yet I assured my self that being the King's Wife she would prefer the Interests and Service of the King her Husband and his Children before any other consideration and look with an ill Eye on Monsieur the Prince as believing him capable of falling again into the same faults to the prejudice of a Kingdom of which she would be the Queen and though I had well observ'd that his Excellency had contented himself with speaking of the inclination of the Infanta for Monsieur the Prince without mentioning any thing of the aversion she had for me who have done a great deal more against the House of Spain than Monsieur the Prince had done for it I ever doubted of the Hatred of the Infanta to me without any great trouble considering from the same reason that becoming Queen of France she would honour with her good will a Person who has served the King and Kingdom with all the Fidelity and Industry possible and who would continue to do it to his last breath So that marrying the King Monsieur the Prince and I should change places in her affections where she would give me that he possesses at present and to him mine I am now to tell you to the end their Majesties may know it that I have learnt from Pimentel that the Horses which Don Lewis would give to the King which according to the relation of those who have seen them are the stateliest in the World will not be presented in his name but in the name of the Catholick King who has ordered him to put them into my hands to take care they be sent to his Majesty So that we must think of returning a Present to the King of Spain which I will remit to Don Lewis by the King's order to the end he may carry it to the King his Master I have already wrote to Paris what I judge fit and in due time will send the Memorial of things of which I think the Present should consist and though 't is usual to give things wherein there is more Art than Riches yet I will endeavour so to order it that here may be both We must also make a considerable Present to Don Lewis as well for that he will sign the Articles of Marriage as that it will be he that will Espouse the Infanta in Virtue of the King's Power and sign the Treaty likewise of Peace A Present