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A12482 An answer to Thomas Bels late challeng named by him The dovvnfal of popery wherin al his arguments are answered, his manifold vntruths, slaunders, ignorance, contradictions, and corruption of Scripture, & Fathers discouered and disproued: with one table of the articles and chapter, and an other of the more markable things conteyned in this booke. VVhat controuersies be here handled is declared in the next page. By S.R. Smith, Richard, 1566-1655. 1605 (1605) STC 22809; ESTC S110779 275,199 548

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get_v by_o repentance_n wherefore_o well_o write_v s._n gregory_n to_o s._n austin_n our_o apostle_n 10._o s._n gregory_n epist_n ad_fw-la augustin_n cant._n c._n 10._o oftentimes_o it_o be_v do_v without_o fault_n which_o come_v of_o fault_n and_o much_o les_fw-fr shall_v involuntary_a motion_n be_v sin_n in_o we_o though_o they_o be_v original_o voluntary_a unto_o we_o only_o by_o the_o will_n of_o a_o other_o thus_o be_v this_o gordian_a knot_n two_o way_n untie_v but_o himself_o have_v with_o his_o tongue_n tie_v so_o fast_o a_o knot_n for_o proof_n himself_o bel_n disprove_v himself_o of_o my_o conclusion_n as_o with_o his_o tooth_n he_o will_v not_o be_v able_a to_o loose_v for_o pag._n 48._o he_o affirm_v s._n paul_n to_o have_v be_v most_o free_a and_o innocent_a contradict_v 12._o contradict_v touch_v actual_a sin_n and_o he_o prove_v it_o because_o he_o fight_v mighty_o against_o his_o rage_a concupiscence_n and_o do_v in_o no_o wise_a yield_v thereunto_o which_o be_v both_o to_o confess_v that_o s_n paul_n have_v involuntary_a motion_n of_o the_o flesh_n which_o himself_o acknowledge_v rom._n 7._o v._n 15_o 17._o 19_o 23._o &_o yet_o to_o prove_v they_o to_o be_v no_o sin_n in_o he_o because_o they_o be_v involuntary_a which_o be_v both_o my_o conclusion_n and_o reason_n 13._o as_o for_o s._n austin_n he_o be_v so_o far_o from_o 15._o s._n augustin_n 10._o 2._o see_v s._n austin_n lib._n 2_o cont_n jul._n c._n 3._o &_o 10._o l._n 5._o c._n 3._o 15._o think_v that_o we_o sin_n by_o involuntary_a motion_n of_o the_o flesh_n as_o he_o say_v epist_n 200._o ad_fw-la asellicum_n that_o if_o we_o consent_v not_o to_o they_o we_o need_v not_o say_v forgive_v we_o our_o trespass_n which_o he_o repeat_v again_o l._n the_o spit_n &_o light_v c._n ult._n add_v 3._o tom._n 3._o that_o if_o we_o consent_v not_o to_o these_o act_n we_o shall_v disprove_v that_o say_n of_o s._n john_n if_o we_o say_v we_o have_v no_o sin_n we_o deceive_v ourselves_o and_o prove_v it_o l._n 1._o de_fw-fr civet_n c._n 15._o thus_o if_o concupiscential_a disobedience_n 5._o tom._n 5._o be_v without_o fault_n in_o the_o body_n of_o one_o sleep_v how_o much_o more_o in_o the_o body_n of_o one_o not_o consent_v and_o l._n 1._o de_fw-fr nupt_a &_o concupis_fw-la c._n 23._o explicate_v how_o it_o be_v call_v sin_n uz_o as_o writing_n be_v call_v a_o hand_n or_o cold_a sluggish_a which_o be_v figurative_o &_o improper_o nay_o he_o not_o only_o excuse_v we_o from_o sin_n when_o we_o consent_v not_o unto_o involuntary_a motion_n of_o the_o flesh_n but_o avouch_v that_o then_o we_o do_v much_o good_a a_o great_a 10._o merit_n in_o resist_a concupiscence_n according_a to_o s_o austin_n tom._n 7._o tom._n 10._o matter_n for_o which_o we_o shall_v be_v crown_v lib._n 1._o de_fw-fr nupt_a &_o concupisc_fw-la c._n 29._o he_o do_v much_o good_a who_o do_v that_o which_o be_v write_v follow_v not_o thy_o lust_n and_o serm_n 5._o de_fw-fr verb._n apost_n c._n 6._o it_o be_v a_o great_a 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