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The dissenter's sayings, in requital for L'Estrange's sayings published in their own words for the information of the people / by Roger L'Estrange.
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L'Estrange, Roger, Sir, 1616-1704.
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Sovereign And methinks it is very Vnequal for Men that give no Quarter to Loyal Subjects to stand expostulating for Privileges to Revolters Here 's King and Parliament gone at First Dash A A Confederacy Authoriz'd at Next B A Papal Dispensation from Obedience C The King and Three Estates swallowed up in the Assembly D Subjects set above the Law E The Sovereignty vested in the Multitude F Parliaments subordinated to the Kirk G The King Himself Arraign'd and Judgments denounced against him H The Judges Degraded Courts of Justice silenc'd the Rabble passing Sentence on the Supreme Magistrate Deposing of Princes Justify'd I. This is all Plain enough without Exposition But we are Now about to be yet a little Plainer Sect. 9. Principles and Positions A THe Two Houses have Legal Power to Levy Monys Arms Horse Ammunition upon the Subjects even without or against the Kings Consent and to put into safe hands such Forts Ports Magazines Ships and Power of the Militia as are intended or likely to be intended to introduce a Tyranny not only when Arms are actually raised against them but when they discern and accordingly declare a Preparation made towards it Political Catechism Page 7.1679 B A King abusing his Power to the Overthrow of Religion Laws and Liberties may be controll'd and oppos'd And if he set himself to overthrow all these by Arms then they who have Power as the Estates of a Land may and ought to Resist by Arms because he doth by That Opposition break the very Bonds and overthrow all the Essentials of this Contract and Covenant This may serve to justifie the Proceedings of This Kingdom against the late King who in a Hostile way set himself to overthrow Religion Parliaments Laws and Liberties Douglase's Coronation Serm. Page 10.1951 C The Lords and Commons are as the Master of the House Calamy's Sermon Decemb. 25. 1644. Page 22. The Parliament whom the People Chuse are the great and only Conservators of the Peoples Liberties Ibid D The Parliament of the Commonwealth of England without the King 1651. were the Supreme Authority of this Nation Jenkins's Petition Octob. 15. 1651. E The Sovereignty here among Us is in King Lords and Commons Baxter's Holy Commonwealths Page 72.1659 F The Government of England is a Mixt Monarchy and govern'd by the Major part of the Three Estates assembled in Parliament Parliament Physick for a sin-sick Nation Page 111. G The Houses are not only requisite to the acting of the Power of making Laws but Co-ordinate with His Majesty in the very power of Acting Ahabs Fall Page 42. H Resolved That in case of Extream Danger and of His Majesties Refusal the Ordinance agreed on by both Houses for the Militia doth oblige the People and ought to be obeyed by the Fundamental Laws of This Kingdom Vote of both Houses March 15. 164â— Ex. Col. 112. I Resolved That when the Lords and Commons in Parliament which is the Supreme Court of Judicature in the Kingdom shall declare what the Law of the Land is to have This not only question'd and controverted but contradicted and a Command that it should not be obey'd is a high breach of the Priviledge of Parliament Ex. Col. 114. March 16. 1641. K The Lords and Commons in Parliament do declare That it is against the Laws and Liberties of the Kingdom that any of the Subjects thereof should be commanded by the King to attend Him at His Pleasure but such as are bound thereto by special Service Ex. Col. 193. May 17. 1642 L The Towns Forts Treasure Magazine Offices and the People of the Kingdom and the whole Kingdom it self is entrusted unto the King for the Good and Safety and best advantage thereof and as This Trust is for the Use of the Kingdom so ought it to be menag'd by the Advice of the Houses of Parliament whom the Kingdom hath Trusted for That purpose Third Remonstrance May 26. 1642. Ex. Col. 266. M A Parliament may dispose of any thing wherein His Majesty or His Subjects hath a Right in such a way as that the Kingdom may not be expos'd to hazard or danger thereby Ibid. 267 N The Votes of the Lords and Commons in Parliament being the great Council of the Kingdom are the REASON of the King and of the Kingdom Ibid. 278. O Supreme Head and Governour over all Persons in all Causes as it is meant of singular Persons rather than of Courts or of the Collective Body of the whole Kingdom c. And to speak properly it is only in His high Court of Parliament wherein and wherewith His Majesty hath absolutely the Supreme Power and consequently is absolutely Supreme Head and Governour from whence there is no Appeal Remonstrance May 26. 1642. Ex. Col. 703. P The Kings of This Realm ought to be very tender in denying both Houses of Parliament any thing that concerns the Publick Government and good of the Kingdom and they ought to deny themselves and their own Understandings very far before they Deny Them and that upon this ground because they lie under the Obligation of an Oath to pass such Laws if they be Just and Good for the Kingdom And it must Then be a Tender Point for a Prince to judge otherwise of those Laws that are Represented unto Him as such by the Representative Body of the whole Kingdom Ibid. Pag. 715. No Presidents can be Bounds to the Proceedings of the Parliament Ibid. Pag. 726 Q A Parliament may dispose of any thing wherein the King or any Subject hath a Right in such a way that the Kingdom may not be endanger'd thereby And if the King being humbly sought unto by His Parliament shall refuse to joyn with them In such Cases the Representative Body of the Kingdom is not to sit still and see the Kingdom perish before their Eyes and of this danger THEY are Judges and Judges Superiour to all others that Legally have any Power of Judicature in This Kingdom Ibid. No Member of either House ought to be medled withal for Treason Felony or any other Crime without the Cause first brought before Them that they may judge of the Fact and Their leave obteined to proceed Ibid. The Sovereign Power doth reside in the King and both Houses of Parliament And His Majesties Negative Voice doth not import a Liberty for His Majesty to deny any thing as He pleaseth though never so requisite and necessary for the Kingdom Ibid. 727. R When there is certain appearance or grounded suspicion that the Letter of the Law shall be improv'd against the Equity of it that is the Publique Good whether of the Body Real or Representative then the Commander going against its Equity gives Liberty to the Commanded to refuse Obedience to the Letter Ex. Col. Pag. 152. S The Clause wherein we Swear the Preservation and Defence of the Kings Person and Authority doth lye under some restreint by That limitation In the Preservation and Defence of the True Religion and Liberties of the Kingdom To
c. Pag. 50. The Parliaments giving away our Birth-Rights to the King is just of as much force as if the Convocation of Prelates or Council of Bishops should give our Souls to the Devil They have as much Power to do the latter as the Parliament have to do the former Pag. 51. Q Some Persons may be stirr'd up to do some things that are not in themselves so justifiable or seemingly warrantable at least in all Circumstances which yet the Over-ruling Hand of God may be in as in Moses killing the Egyptian Phineas slaying Zimri and Cosbi Numb 25.7 8. Sufferers Catechism Pag. 32.1664 R It is remarkable that this single act of Phineas in killing two Persons is so much rewarded and taken notice of by the Lord yea more than the many who were killed by the Judges Jus Populi P. 416. Now sure I am this Fact of Phineas was according to the Law and to the express mind of God and why then might it not be imitated in the like case What Warrant Command or Commission had Phineas which we cannot now expect Ibid. Pag. 419. Notes on Sect. 10. HEre 's a Complaint of a Persecution A by the greatest of Persecutors and the most Mercyless of Men as you have it out of their own Mouths The Law vilify'd B and Authority affronted in the very Instant while they pretend to Supplicate for Relief What can be more Inflaming Scandalous and Pharisaical then the Clause C or more Seditious then D. E. F. and G More Incentive to the People then H. I. K. and L. And who were the Eminent Incendiaries M. N. and O. but the very Principals of the Dissenting Ministers What horrible Affronts upon the King Parliament and Government in P What Instigations are there to any execrable Practice upon the Sacred Person of His Majesty in Q. and R View their Principles Compare my Citations with their Writings turn your Eye from Thence to their Practices and if you find I have done them any wrong in the Report let me bear the Burthen of the Scandal But if the matter be truly represented let the Reader judge of the Rest. Sect. 11. The War against the King Justify'd A OUr War has been proved over and over to unbyass'd Consciences to be Just. Caryl to the Commons April 23. 1644. Page 35. B The Scots were necessitated to take up Arms for their Just Defence and against Antichrist and the Popish Priests Ward before the Lords on Deut. 33.16 Page 16. C If I had taken up Arms against the Parliament in that Waâ— my Conscience tells me I had been a Traytor and guilty of Resisting the highest Powers Baxters Holy Common-wealth Pag. 433. and I cannot see that I was mistaken in the Mayn Cause nor dare I repent of it nor forbear the same if it were to do again in the same state of Things Ibid Page 486. D Some say the Terms are dubious if not false it being indefinitely asserted It is not lawful to take Arms against the King on any pretense whatsoever Although our King is and we hope ever will be so qualify'd that in reference to Him it may be true yet it is not impossible for a King Regis Personam exuere in a Natural or Moral Madness or Phrensy to turn Tyrant yea Beast c. In This case Men think Nature doth dictate it and Scripture doth justifie a Man se defendendo vim vi repellere c. A short Survey of the Grand Case Page 12.1663 E Their Rising The Rebels at Pentland-hills was supposed against Lawful Authority whereas it was rather a Rising for Lawful Authority while against Persons abusing their Authority and not walking in the right Line of Subordination unto the Supreme Magistrate and Governor of Heaven and Earth but Rebelling against Him in making Laws Contrary to His Laws and executing them contrary to His Will and Command 2. That their Rising was in Rebellion whereas it was rather in Loyalty to God and the Country against such as had erected a Standard of Rebellion against the High and Mighty Prince Jesus Christ our Lord and Supreme Governor and in Loyalty to that Supreme Law The safety of the People defending themselves against manifest and intolerable Tyranny Jus Populi 1669. Preface We may safely say that these Valiant Worthies were basely and barbarously Murther'd and that there was no just cause to take their Lives Ib. Preface F When strong and inevitable Necessity urgeth in order to Necessary and Just Ends people may have their own Convocations even against Authority and de jure be guilty of the breach of no standing Law against the same seeing all know that Salus Populi est Suprema Lex and that no Law or Act when the strict observation thereof tendeth to the Detriment of the Republick for the good of which all Laws are made is of force Jus Populi Page 18. Resistance may be us'd against the Person of or the Man who is the Magistrate without the least contempt or wrong done unto the Holy Ordinance of God The Peoples Safety is such a Royal thing that the King Himself and all his Prerogatives yea and Municipal Laws too must vail the Cap unto it themselves being Judges Ibid. Pag. 25. The Late War carryed on by the Parliament of Scotland against the King was Lawful both in point of Law and Conscience and if That was Lawful as it was and shall be found to be when He and all His Complices have done their Utmost with all their Lying Cavils false Calumnies Reproaches and what not that Hell can hatch to disprove and condemn the same a War raised by the Subjects in their own sinless self-defence without the conduct of their Representative cannot in every case be condemned particularly not in our Case Now. Jus Populi Page 31. G The Generation of the Prelatical and Malignant Faction did not cease to Chant after the Determinations of the Cruel and Bloody Council and cry out upon Those Noble and Worthy Patriots whose Memory shall be in Everlasting Remembrance as Traytors and Rebells Justly Condemned and Executed Notes on Sect. 11. WE have the War here against the Late King Justify'd A. B. C. by Three Divines of Note in the First place D. Minces it a little but comes to the same point at last E. F. and G. Justify not only the Ground of That Rebellion and the Fact it self but Canonize the very Rebels of Pentland-Hills for Martyrs Now can it be imagin'd that any Man will take upon him to defend the Late Sedition that does not stand as well-affected to another It is a strange Partiality for Them to think it more Reasonable for Separatists to Overturn the Government against Law then for the Magistrate by keeping Close to the Rule of the Law to do his endeavour to Support it If they call it a Persecution the Magistrates not Dissolving of the Law in favour of Dissenters Why may not we be allow'd to call it a Rebellion for the Dissenters to Dissolve the