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caluin_n they_o say_v it_o be_v call_v amongst_o the_o jew_n sanedrim_n a_o corrupt_a word_n by_o they_o use_v that_o be_v degenerate_v from_o the_o true_a greek_a name_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o beza_n do_v translate_v council_n a_o strange_a thing_n that_o the_o hebrew_n tongue_n shall_v be_v so_o penurious_a as_o that_o it_o be_v not_o able_a to_o afford_v a_o hebrew_n name_n to_o such_o a_o worthy_a regiment_n or_o that_o it_o shall_v be_v nameless_a until_o the_o jew_n and_o the_o grecian_n have_v such_o familiar_a intercourse_n as_o that_o they_o either_o can_v or_o will_v vouchsafe_v to_o borrow_v any_o thing_n from_o they_o which_o as_o most_o man_n think_v be_v not_o till_o alexander_n time_n or_o not_o much_o before_o but_o strange_a or_o not_o strange_a be_v it_o as_o it_o may_v be_v by_o this_o doctrine_n then_o of_o the_o talmud_n and_o master_n bezaes_n translation_n shall_v we_o term_v this_o parochial_a regiment_n a_o council_n and_o the_o governor_n therein_o how_o many_o soever_o so_o many_o councillor_n sure_o this_o be_v great_o to_o the_o honour_n of_o england_n and_o to_o the_o benefit_n of_o her_o majesty_n subject_n for_o whereas_o now_o they_o have_v many_o occasion_n to_o come_v to_o the_o court_n to_o their_o lordship_n for_o the_o redress_n of_o many_o great_a enormity_n they_o shall_v have_v a_o council_n table_n to_o repair_v unto_o in_o every_o parish_n but_o it_o will_v here_o be_v answer_v peradventure_o that_o we_o may_v not_o call_v it_o a_o council_n for_o that_o our_o saviour_n christ_n mind_v as_o they_o say_v to_o translate_v the_o form_n of_o the_o jew_n ecclesiastical_a government_n term_v sanedrim_n from_o the_o law_n to_o the_o gospel_n use_v not_o that_o name_n of_o council_n but_o
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nos_fw-la translatum_fw-la esse_fw-la it_o be_v here_o to_o be_v observe_v that_o together_o with_o the_o thing_n itself_o 124._o the_o very_a name_n also_o be_v translate_v unto_o we_o from_o the_o jew_n and_o what_o name_n be_v that_o forsooth_o say_v he_o nomen_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o be_v congregation_n or_o church_n saepius_fw-la apud_fw-la mosen_n certis_fw-la &_o delectis_fw-la viris_fw-la tribuitur_fw-la qui_fw-la a_o toâ—a_fw-la congregatione_fw-la adres_n obeundas_fw-la designarentur_fw-la be_v often_o give_v by_o moses_n unto_o a_o certain_a number_n of_o choose_a man_n that_o be_v to_o be_v appoint_v by_o the_o whole_a congregation_n to_o deal_v in_o sundry_a affair_n so_o as_o by_o this_o fellow_n say_v christ_n make_v no_o alteration_n at_o all_o when_o he_o say_v dic_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la tell_v the_o church_n but_o keep_v even_o the_o old_a name_n of_o it_o uz_o which_o it_o have_v before_o give_v unto_o it_o by_o moses_n how_o blind_a then_o be_v beza_n cartwright_n and_o the_o rest_n that_o they_o can_v not_o find_v this_o proper_a name_n of_o their_o sovereignty_n in_o all_o the_o old_a testament_n 16.18_o but_o be_v fain_o to_o fly_v to_o the_o talmud_n but_o will_v beza_n think_v you_o take_v this_o at_o his_o hand_n no_o i_o warrant_v you_o for_o say_v he_o vocabulo_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la significari_fw-la civium_fw-la conventum_fw-la nemo_fw-la est_fw-la qui_fw-la ignoret_fw-la etc._n etc._n haebrei_fw-it 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d vocant_fw-la sed_fw-la postea_fw-la communis_fw-la loquendi_fw-la consuetudo_fw-la fecit_fw-la ut_fw-la pro_fw-la eorum_fw-la caetu_fw-la accipiatur_fw-la qui_fw-la christum_n profitentur_fw-la there_o be_v no_o man_n ignorant_a that_o the_o word_n ecclesia_fw-la do_v signify_v a_o assembly_n of_o citizen_n the_o hebrew_n do_v call_v it_o a_o assembly_n or_o company_n meet_v together_o but_o afterward_o by_o custom_n it_o come_v to_o pass_v that_o it_o be_v take_v for_o the_o assembly_n of_o they_o that_o do_v profess_v christ._n which_o custom_n i_o hope_v it_o will_v be_v confess_v do_v begin_v about_o christ_n time_n and_o not_o in_o moses_n time_n and_o then_o the_o disciplinarian_a traverser_n be_v very_o well_o serve_v for_o his_o sauciness_n in_o take_v upon_o he_o to_o proceed_v further_o than_o his_o say_a master_n have_v give_v he_o in_o commission_n but_o howsoever_o these_o fellow_n will_v agree_v among_o themselves_o i_o think_v a_o man_n may_v be_v bold_a by_o their_o place_n of_o matthew_n to_o call_v their_o parochial_a regiment_n 1â—_n by_o the_o name_n of_o the_o church_n for_o they_o all_o will_v confess_v that_o christ_n call_v it_o so_o and_o then_o it_o will_v follow_v by_o their_o ground_n that_o every_o parish_n or_o church_n must_v have_v a_o new_a church_n erect_v in_o it_o which_o new_a church_n must_v have_v authority_n to_o command_v &_o censure_v the_o old_a and_o so_o one_o church_n must_v be_v over_o another_o yea_o but_o say_v beza_n in_o effect_n we_o be_v rather_o to_o follow_v the_o apostle_n in_o this_o point_n then_o christ._n that_o which_o he_o call_v church_n mean_v the_o synedrium_fw-la that_o be_v council_n the_o apostle_n call_v presbyterium_fw-la 119._o eldership_n quod_fw-la christus_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la iam_fw-la mutato_fw-la synagogae_fw-la vel_fw-la synedrij_fw-la nomine_fw-la appellarat_fw-la paulus_n presbyterium_fw-la nominauni_fw-la that_o which_o christ_n call_v the_o church_n change_v the_o name_n of_o synagoge_n or_o council_n paul_n call_v eldership_n again_o quod_fw-la judaei_n synedrium_fw-la christiani_n presbyterium_fw-la teste_fw-la apostolo_n vocarant_a that_o which_o the_o jew_n call_v council_n the_o christian_n as_o the_o apostle_n witness_v call_v eldership_n and_o why_o beza_n will_v blush_v if_o he_o can_v not_o give_v a_o reason_n for_o any_o thing_n idcirco_fw-la fortassis_fw-la potius_fw-la quam_fw-la synedrium_fw-la ne_fw-la qua_fw-la pateret_fw-la calumniandi_fw-la occasio_fw-la 36._o quasi_fw-la christiani_n statum_fw-la publicum_fw-la turbare_fw-la &_o de_fw-la magistratuum_fw-la authoritate_fw-la ac_fw-la iurisdictione_n quicquam_fw-la ad_fw-la se_fw-la protrahere_fw-la vellent_fw-la the_o apostle_n peradventure_o call_v this_o regiment_n rather_o eldership_n than_o council_n lest_o there_o may_v be_v give_v thereby_o some_o occasion_n of_o slander_v as_o though_o the_o christian_n have_v purpose_v to_o have_v trouble_v the_o public_a state_n and_o to_o have_v take_v to_o themselves_o some_o part_n of_o the_o magistrate_n authority_n and_o jurisdiction_n well_o and_o be_v we_o yet_o come_v to_o a_o issue_n how_o we_o may_v call_v this_o form_n of_o government_n shall_v we_o term_v it_o the_o eldership_n no_o sure_o if_o we_o will_v follow_v some_o other_o reform_v church_n which_o be_v so_o oft_o commend_v unto_o us._n presbyterium_fw-la vocare_fw-la consistorium_fw-la apud_fw-la nos_fw-la mos_fw-la est_fw-la 110._o it_o be_v the_o manner_n and_o fashion_n with_o we_o at_o geneva_n say_v beza_n to_o call_v the_o eldership_n a_o consistory_n with_o who_o agree_v i.b._n the_o superintendent_n as_o it_o be_v think_v of_o the_o italian_a church_n in_o london_n saying_n although_o we_o have_v in_o our_o church_n the_o same_o order_n which_o the_o apostle_n ordain_v 170._o yet_o we_o have_v change_v the_o name_n of_o eldership_n &_o do_v call_v it_o now_o by_o another_o name_n uz_o consistory_n and_o good_a reason_n it_o be_v so_o call_v at_o geneva_n the_o apostle_n call_v it_o eldership_n but_o yet_o they_o dispense_n with_o that_o point_n do_v call_v it_o as_o they_o listen_v man_n no_o doubt_n of_o a_o sovereign_a prerogative_n but_o to_o proceed_v it_o shall_v seem_v that_o as_o these_o man_n have_v change_v the_o name_n of_o eldership_n into_o consistory_n so_o have_v other_o in_o some_o place_n do_v it_o into_o synod_n 231._o against_o both_o which_o sort_n bannosius_n in_o his_o long_a and_o tedious_a disciplinarian_a discourse_n be_v very_o bold_a to_o write_v his_o mind_n that_o it_o ought_v rather_o to_o be_v call_v eldership_n then_o either_o synod_n or_o consistory_n 80_o and_o that_o for_o two_o reason_n uz_o first_o because_o some_o man_n do_v not_o distinguish_v sufficient_o the_o assembly_n of_o the_o christian_n from_o the_o synod_n of_o the_o jew_n and_o second_o because_o the_o hierarchy_n of_o rome_n ibidem_fw-la do_v call_v their_o presbyterium_fw-la eldership_n consistorium_fw-la a_o consistory_n from_o all_o these_o as_o i_o suppose_v many_o of_o the_o french_a church_n or_o at_o the_o least_o that_o of_o heidelberge_n do_v dissent_v for_o thus_o junius_n 3._o late_o a_o chief_a ruler_n there_o write_v concilium_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la senatumue_n appellamus_fw-la quod_fw-la paulus_n presbyterium_fw-la that_o which_o paul_n call_v the_o eldership_n we_o call_v the_o council_n of_o the_o church_n or_o the_o senate_n and_o so_o the_o elder_n there_o be_v senator_n which_o name_n both_o of_o senate_n and_z senators_z say_v beza_n ut_fw-la civilibus_fw-la dignitatibus_fw-la cowenientius_fw-la &_o calumniae_fw-la obnoxium_fw-la 112._o videtur_fw-la study_v quodam_fw-la vetus_fw-la purior_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la in_o occidente_fw-la repudiasse_n as_o be_v proper_a to_o civil_a dignity_n and_o subject_a to_o slander_v the_o old_a pure_a church_n in_o the_o west_n do_v seem_v of_o purpose_n to_o have_v reject_v and_o bannosius_n affirm_v that_o the_o reason_n that_o move_v those_o where_o he_o be_v to_o call_v the_o eldership_n a_o consistory_n be_v quod_fw-la nomen_fw-la minus_fw-la odiosum_fw-la quam_fw-la senatus_n esset_fw-la because_o it_o be_v a_o name_n less_o odious_a than_o the_o name_n of_o senate_n you_o have_v hear_v also_o before_o out_o of_o beza_n that_o the_o apostle_n themselves_o refuse_v the_o name_n of_o synedrium_fw-la as_o be_v all_o one_o with_o council_n or_o senate_n for_o the_o same_o respect_n but_o all_o this_o notwithstanding_o now_o that_o belike_o they_o 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