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A90658 A reply to a confutation of some grounds for infants baptisme: as also, concerning the form of a church, put forth against mee by one Thomas Lamb. Hereunto is added, a discourse of the verity and validity of infants baptisme, wherein I endeavour to clear it in it self: as also in the ministery administrating it, and the manner of administration, by sprinkling, and not dipping; with sundry other particulars handled herein. / By George Philips of Watertown in New England. Phillips, George, 1593-1644. 1645 (1645) Wing P2026; Thomason E287_4; ESTC R200088 141,673 168

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but_o still_o he_o make_v it_o good_a and_o continue_v it_o unto_o they_o in_o all_o their_o apostasy_n until_o by_o some_o manifest_a act_n he_o cast_v they_o off_o as_o he_o do_v at_o last_o the_o ten_o tribe_n and_o final_o all_o in_o the_o day_n of_o his_o son_n manifestation_n nor_o may_v any_o infant_n but_o a_o jew_n be_v circumcise_v except_o himself_o first_o be_v incorporate_v into_o the_o jewish_a body_n ecclesiastical_a three_o that_o infant_n now_o also_o be_v under_o that_o promise_n and_o so_o to_o be_v baptize_v as_o a_o part_n of_o that_o seed_n they_o be_v in_o it_o till_o christ_n time_n and_o why_o shall_v they_o be_v now_o exclude_v or_o let_v any_o show_v who_o do_v it_o or_o where_o it_o be_v do_v it_o shall_v be_v sufficient_a if_o any_o shall_v say_v that_o believer_n be_v the_o seed_n of_o abraham_n i_o answer_v so_o it_o be_v among_o the_o jew_n rom._n 9.6_o 7_o 8._o the_o child_n of_o promise_n be_v count_v for_o the_o seed_n and_o therefore_o our_o saviour_n argue_v they_o not_o to_o be_v the_o child_n of_o abraham_n but_o of_o their_o father_n the_o devil_n joh._n 8._o let_v this_o then_o be_v note_v that_o our_o saviour_n and_o his_o apostle_n speak_v thus_o of_o they_o in_o a_o certain_a respect_n and_o we_o be_v to_o consider_v they_o first_o as_o abraham_n seed_n federal_o continue_v in_o outward_a profession_n and_o so_o they_o be_v all_o god_n people_n man_n and_o infant_n and_o be_v all_o under_o that_o promise_n and_o so_o be_v partaker_n of_o all_o promise_n and_o privilege_n give_v unto_o that_o people_n on_o god_n part_v offer_v rom._n 9.4_o 5._o second_o as_o under_o god_n election_n of_o grace_n and_o so_o the_o elect_a only_o obtain_v the_o thing_n promise_v whether_o infant_n or_o man_n of_o year_n rom._n 11._o but_o the_o want_n of_o obtain_v do_v not_o make_v they_o not_o to_o be_v the_o seed_n nor_o under_o that_o promise_n in_o another_o sense_n abraham_n have_v two_o son_n the_o one_o obtain_v the_o other_o not_o of_o his_o posterity_n there_o be_v always_o of_o they_o two_o sort_n the_o one_o bind_v after_o the_o flesh_n not_o natural_o but_o in_o another_o sense_n the_o other_o after_o the_o spirit_n and_o so_o it_o be_v now_o gal._n 4._o but_o be_v after_o the_o flesh_n do_v not_o make_v that_o god_n be_v not_o their_o god_n and_o they_o abraham_n seed_n federal_o so_o than_o it_o remain_v that_o as_o the_o jew_n infant_n be_v include_v under_o that_o promise_n and_o for_o that_o cause_n circumcise_v so_o the_o gentile_n believe_v be_v with_o their_o infant_n under_o that_o promise_n and_o for_o that_o cause_n to_o be_v baptize_v though_o only_o the_o elect_a whether_o infant_n or_o man_n of_o year_n jew_n or_o gentile_n do_v obtain_v the_o