Selected quad for the lemma: cause_n
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A25208
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A faithful rebuke to a false report lately dispersed in a letter to a friend in the country Concerning certain differences in doctrinals, between some dissenting ministers in London.
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Alsop, Vincent, 1629 or 30-1703.
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1697
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Wing A2910; ESTC R215794
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in_o our_o place_n and_o stead_n do_v not_o with_o many_o now_o a_o day_n signify_v a_o surrogation_n how_o can_v mr._n williams_n help_v that_o if_o surrogation_n signify_v in_o our_o place_n and_o stead_n it_o be_v very_a fair_a for_o i_o will_v always_o have_v the_o more_o dark_a term_n explain_v by_o the_o more_o clear_a and_o familiar_a and_o not_o that_o which_o be_v plain_a by_o the_o more_o dubious_a and_o dark_a i_o shall_v think_v the_o light_n shall_v comment_v better_o upon_o darkness_n than_o darkness_n will_v interpret_v the_o light_n still_o he_o carry_v on_o the_o charge_n these_o word_n do_v not_o signify_v a_o proper_a change_n of_o person_n in_o a_o legal_a sense_n i_o answer_v â—ho_fw-mi can_v tell_v that_o till_o they_o shall_v tell_v we_o what_o a_o proper_a â—hange_n of_o person_n in_o a_o legal_a sense_n do_v signify_v its_o own_o self_n â—t_z they_o agree_v if_o they_o can_v to_o fix_v what_o the_o meaning_n of_o proper_a change_n of_o person_n in_o a_o legal_a sense_n do_v import_v and_o â—en_o it_o may_v be_v judge_v whether_o in_o our_o place_n and_o stead_n â—oes_n signify_v as_o much_o as_o that_o come_v to_o but_o the_o caviller_n proceed_v in_o our_o place_n and_o stead_n with_o â—me_n signify_v no_o more_o than_o for_o our_o good_a why_o it_o be_v imposable_a they_o shall_v that_o which_o christ_n suffer_v in_o our_o â—ead_a be_v for_o our_o good_a to_o bear_v the_o punishment_n of_o our_o â—ns_n to_o satisfy_v divine_a justice_n be_v certain_o for_o our_o good_a â—hat_n by_o his_o death_n and_o suffering_n he_o deliver_v we_o from_o â—e_n great_a evil_n hell_n and_o wrath_n and_o that_o he_o purâ—ased_v for_o we_o the_o great_a blessing_n heaven_n and_o glory_n â—as_v most_o certain_o for_o our_o good_a so_o that_o he_o argue_v â—us_a if_o for_o our_o good_a than_o not_o in_o our_o stead_n but_o i_o will_v inert_v the_o argument_n if_o in_o our_o stead_n undoubted_o for_o our_o â—od_n and_o therefore_o for_o our_o good_a because_o in_o our_o stead_n 2._o the_o manuscript_n give_v a_o second_o answer_n the_o â—nglish_fw-fr socinian_n declare_v that_o the_o hinge_v of_o the_o controversy_n â—tween_n they_o and_o we_o turn_v not_o on_o the_o word_n in_o our_o stead_n â—at_a the_o man_n of_o the_o racovian_a way_n consider_v our_o saviour_n as_o offer_v for_o we_o and_o in_o our_o stead_n take_v this_o reply_n §_o 1._o it_o be_v all_o the_o better_o i_o have_v rather_o have_v they_o speak_v honest_o though_o with_o a_o knavish_a meaning_n than_o speak_v â—d_a mean_v both_o like_a knave_n §_o 2._o but_o pray_v sir_n i_o direct_v myself_o to_o you_o mr._n maâ—script_n if_o the_o socinian_o will_v put_v a_o unsound_a sense_n upâ—n_o sound_a word_n will_v you_o quit_v the_o sound_a phrase_n because_o â—ey_n put_v a_o wretched_a sense_n on_o it_o what_o other_o remedy_n â—ill_v you_o advise_v we_o to_o why_o our_o wise_a gentleman_n have_v â—und_v out_o a_o expedient_a that_o shall_v outwit_n they_o for_o if_o â—ey_n think_v to_o evade_v in_o our_o place_n and_o stead_n they_o have_v another_o ready_a viz._n that_o in_o the_o suffering_n and_o death_n of_o christ_n there_o be_v a_o commutation_n of_o person_n but_o this_o wilâ—_n not_o do_v the_o feat_n for_o socinus_n and_o crellius_n will_v grant_v there_o be_v such_o a_o change_n of_o person_n and_o what_o will_v they_o do_v now_o why_o here_o be_v a_o new_a phrase_n ready_a to_o put_v in_o itâ—_n place_n viz._n that_o christ_n die_v in_o the_o person_n of_o sinner_n or_o that_o he_o take_v on_o he_o the_o person_n of_o sinner_n not_o too_o fast_o that_o will_v have_v serve_v for_o next_o time_n but_o assure_v yourself_o sir_n though_o your_o invention_n be_v never_o so_o fruitful_a iâ—_n new_a phrase_n the_o socinian_o be_v as_o pregnant_a in_o equivocation_n and_o interpretation_n to_o elude_v and_o evade_v the_o new_a term_n and_o you_o must_v be_v put_v to_o the_o needless_a trouble_n to_o make_v new_a intrenchment_n as_o they_o distinguish_v you_o out_o oâ—_n the_o old_a and_o so_o on_o till_o you_o have_v not_o one_o foot_n of_o ground_n to_o 〈◊〉_d see_v now_o to_o what_o a_o wretched_a pickle_n you_o have_v reduce_v yourself_o and_o which_o be_v more_o the_o cause_n and_o truth_n of_o christ._n the_o socinian_o have_v by_o a_o false_a gloss_n drive_v you_o from_o that_o old_a excellent_a phrase_n in_o our_o place_n and_o stead_n you_o retreat_z to_z a_o change_n of_o person_n between_o christ_n and_o we_o they_o put_v a_o false_a gloss_n upon_o that_o and_o then_o you_o retire_v to_o christ_n die_v in_o the_o person_n of_o sinner_n do_v you_o think_v they_o can_v give_v a_o false_a construction_n of_o that_o too_o and_o so_o you_o must_v make_v and_o coin_v new_a term_n and_o phrase_n in_o infinitum_fw-la §_o 3._o i_o will_v therefore_o in_o charity_n if_o you_o be_v please_v to_o accept_v it_o recommend_v a_o easy_a expedient_a to_o you_o iâ—_n you_o suspect_v that_o any_o under_o a_o sound_a expression_n conceal_v a_o unsound_a mean_v ask_v he_o if_o he_o understand_v it_o proper_o in_o a_o legal_a sense_n or_o no_o ask_v he_o if_o he_o mean_v that_o christ_n suffer_v in_o our_o stead_n as_o a_o sacrifice_n to_o satisfy_v god_n justice_n and_o there_o you_o have_v drive_v he_o to_o the_o end_n of_o his_o equivocation_n for_o which_o mr._n williams_n have_v give_v you_o the_o only_a proper_a draught_n in_o the_o place_n i_o have_v already_o exemplify_v and_o beyond_o this_o you_o can_v go_v unless_o you_o will_v have_v recourse_n to_o the_o rack_n or_o spanish_a inquisition_n which_o be_v a_o remedy_n worse_o than_o the_o disease_n §_o 4._o i_o add_v one_o thing_n more_o if_o both_o these_o phrase_n christ_n suffering_n and_o die_v in_o our_o place_n and_o stead_n and_o that_o other_o a_o change_n of_o person_n between_o christ_n and_o we_o be_v liable_a to_o be_v thus_o practise_v upon_o by_o man_n of_o great_a wit_n and_o little_a conscience_n and_o that_o no_o term_n can_v be_v find_v out_o so_o plain_a but_o crafty_a head_n will_v suborn_v they_o into_o a_o evil_n mean_v i_o will_v then_o a_o thousand_o time_n soon_o choose_v to_o adhere_v to_o this_o phrase_n christ_n suffer_v and_o die_v in_o our_o stead_n and_o place_n loco_fw-la nostro_fw-la vice_fw-la nostra_fw-la then_o to_o that_o other_o in_o the_o suffering_n of_o christ_n there_o be_v a_o change_n of_o person_n between_o christ_n and_o we_o for_o the_o former_a have_v have_v its_o signification_n strong_o fix_v and_o settle_v by_o long_a usage_n and_o prescription_n whereas_o this_o latter_a be_v but_o of_o yesterday_o and_o scarce_o two_o person_n no_o not_o the_o inventor_n be_v agree_v among_o themselves_o what_o sense_n to_o stamp_v upon_o it_o again_o the_o plain_a christian_n have_v a_o tolerable_a understanding_n of_o the_o former_a whereas_o the_o other_o do_v but_o amuse_n and_o confound_v they_o nor_o be_v it_o so_o dangerous_a to_o the_o main_a of_o the_o cause_n to_o mistake_v in_o the_o one_o as_o in_o the_o other_o for_o he_o that_o by_o christ_n suffering_n in_o our_o stead_n intend_v he_o suffer_v for_o our_o good_a speak_v the_o truth_n but_o he_o that_o mistake_v in_o the_o sense_n of_o commutation_n of_o person_n may_v err_v the_o whole_a heaven_n and_o mislead_v himself_o and_o other_o into_o the_o dregs_n of_o antinomianism_n in_o a_o word_n therefore_o the_o socinian_o be_v subtle_a and_o have_v put_v a_o false_a gloss_n upon_o christ_n die_v in_o our_o stead_n shall_v we_o therefore_o discharge_v that_o phrase_n so_o have_v they_o put_v a_o false_a one_o upon_o commutation_n of_o person_n shall_v we_o therefore_o by_o the_o same_o reason_n discharge_v that_o also_o why_o they_o have_v put_v as_o absurd_v a_o sense_n upon_o the_o term_n satisfaction_n which_o with_o they_o signify_v no_o more_o than_o satisfaction_n make_v to_o the_o will_n or_o wisdom_n of_o god_n must_v we_o therefore_o relinquish_v that_o too_o then_o we_o give_v they_o up_o the_o whole_a cause_n how_o much_o more_o advisable_v will_v it_o be_v to_o keep_v to_o the_o old_a land_n mark_v and_o adhere_v to_o what_o mr._n williams_n with_o all_o that_o be_v sound_a in_o the_o faith_n have_v assert_v that_o christ_n suffer_v and_o die_v in_o our_o place_n and_o stead_n as_o a_o sacrifice_n to_o satisfy_v divine_a justice_n and_o then_o let_v the_o socinian_o and_o whoever_o have_v a_o wicked_a mind_n try_v their_o skill_n in_o evade_n and_o elude_v it_o 2._o a_o second_o heavy_a charge_n against_o mr._n williams_n be_v that_o he_o absolute_o deny_v a_o change_n of_o person_n between_o christ_n and_o the_o elect_a to_o which_o the_o unite_a brethren_n in_o their_o three_o paper_n as_o he_o call_v it_o give_v a_o clear_a answer_n that_o it_o can_v not_o be_v intend_v as_o a_o denial_n of_o a_o
legal_a or_o judicial_a sense_n only_o we_o may_v so_o call_v it_o to_o which_o i_o reply_v 1._o as_o we_o may_v call_v it_o be_v not_o oppose_v to_o reality_n and_o the_o critic_n do_v common_o observe_v that_o there_o be_v a_o sicut_fw-la veritatis_fw-la as_o well_o as_o similitudinis_fw-la and_o we_o must_v expect_v when_o the_o humour_n take_v he_o to_o cavil_v at_o the_o apostle_n who_o heb._n 7._o 9_o use_n a_o like_a phrase_n and_o as_o i_o may_v so_o say_v levi_n also_o who_o receive_v tithe_n pay_v tithe_n to_o abraham_n the_o phrase_n there_o do_v not_o deny_v the_o truth_n of_o the_o thing_n but_o be_v a_o form_n of_o speech_n wherewith_o we_o usual_o mollify_v a_o expression_n which_o to_o tender_a ear_n may_v seem_v a_o little_a harsh_a and_o strange_a such_o as_o these_o term_n legal_a and_o judicial_a may_v do_v to_o vulgar_a understanding_n he_o that_o will_v answer_v another_o man_n word_n ought_v faithful_o to_o quote_v they_o and_o oblige_v himself_o to_o a_o syllabical_a exactness_n but_o i_o perceive_v this_o answerer_n wear_v not_o such_o a_o â—crupulous_a conscience_n not_o that_o it_o be_v real_o so_o only_o we_o may_v so_o call_v it_o now_o his_o not_o and_o his_o only_a be_v either_o his_o own_o text_n or_o his_o own_o comment_n and_o let_v he_o see_v to_o it_o to_o reconcile_v they_o to_o truth_n for_o the_o word_n may_v carry_v this_o sense_n as_o we_o may_v call_v it_o i._n e._n as_o we_o may_v lawful_o call_v â—t_a and_o not_o as_o his_o gloss_n bear_v only_o we_o may_v so_o call_v it_o which_o â—s_v either_o a_o gross_a pervert_n of_o the_o mean_v or_o a_o bold_a falsification_n of_o the_o word_n but_o i_o have_v a_o answer_n worth_a two_o of_o this_o and_o will_v produce_v their_o great_a master_n in_o this_o very_a case_n thus_o qualify_a his_o own_o word_n gosp._n truth_n p._n 31._o 2_o edit_fw-la thus_o â—ays_o dr._n crisp_n in_o give_v christ_n god_n be_v please_v as_o it_o be_v â—o_o make_v a_o change_n and_o yet_o none_o question_n but_o that_o doâ—tor_n think_v the_o change_n as_o proper_a as_o literal_a as_o they_o can_v â—esire_v or_o word_n can_v be_v find_v to_o express_v but_o will_v they_o â—ive_a we_o the_o liberty_n to_o interpret_v the_o doctor_n be_v as_o he_o do_v mr._n williams_n word_n god_n be_v please_v as_o it_o be_v to_o make_v a_o change_n yea_o not_o real_o or_o proper_o to_o make_v a_o change_n â—ut_v only_o as_o it_o be_v and_o so_o we_o shall_v have_v glo_v away_o the_o beloved_a phrase_n of_o change_n of_o person_n but_o still_o the_o manuscript_n proceed_v in_o his_o object_v faculty_n a_o commutation_n in_o a_o legal_a sense_n be_v the_o same_o with_o 〈◊〉_d proper_a surrogation_n and_o what_o be_v a_o proper_a surrogation_n but_o a_o place_v one_o person_n in_o the_o room_n and_o place_n of_o another_o and_o thus_o god_n place_v his_o son_n and_o the_o son_n so_o place_v himself_o in_o our_o room_n and_o stead_n and_o he_o be_v a_o sacrifice_n to_o satisfy_v divine_a justice_n be_v they_o not_o all_o agree_v one_o will_v think_v so_o ay_o but_o there_o be_v more_o at_o the_o bottom_n what_o be_v that_o why_o where_o the_o surety_n put_v on_o the_o person_n and_o stand_v in_o the_o quality_n state_n and_o condition_n of_o the_o debtor_n and_o lie_v under_o the_o same_o obligation_n to_o answer_v for_o he_o i_o wish_v i_o be_v worthy_a to_o advise_v this_o confident_a man_n not_o to_o insist_v so_o strict_o upon_o that_o notion_n of_o debt_n and_o debtor_n for_o if_o he_o suppose_v sin_n to_o be_v only_o a_o pecuniary_a debt_n and_o that_o the_o sinner_n stand_v only_o oblige_v as_o such_o a_o debtor_n he_o have_v betray_v the_o cause_n he_o seem_v so_o zealous_a to_o defend_v and_o yield_v it_o up_o irrecoverable_o to_o the_o socinian_n and_o this_o be_v that_o which_o the_o learned_a author_n of_o the_o reason_n of_o christ_n suffering_n p._n 269._o have_v warn_v he_o of_o long_a since_o the_o true_a state_n of_o the_o controversy_n say_v he_o have_v be_v render_v more_o obscure_a by_o the_o mistake_v of_o some_o who_o have_v manage_v it_o with_o great_a zeal_n than_o judgement_n he_o have_v never_o see_v the_o report_n nor_o manuscript_n and_o by_o this_o mean_n have_v shoot_v over_o their_o adversary_n head_n and_o lay_v their_o own_o more_o open_a to_o assault_n it_o be_v easy_a to_o observe_v that_o most_o of_o the_o socinian_o argument_n be_v level_v against_o a_o opinion_n which_o few_o who_o have_v consider_v these_o thing_n do_v maintain_v and_o none_o need_v think_v themselves_o oblige_v to_o do_v it_o that_o christ_n pay_v a_o rigid_a and_o proper_a satisfaction_n for_o the_o sin_n of_o man_n under_o the_o notion_n of_o a_o debt_n etc._n etc._n the_o sinner_n therefore_o be_v to_o be_v consider_v as_o a_o malefactor_n who_o have_v forfeit_v his_o life_n to_o justice_n and_o here_o the_o surrogation_n and_o substitution_n of_o christ_n intervene_v who_o have_v by_o agreement_n between_o his_o father_n and_o he_o offer_v himself_o as_o a_o sacrifice_n to_o satisfy_v divine_a justice_n but_o still_o say_v the_o manuscript_n in_o this_o paper_n the_o â—hird_n christ_n put_v on_o the_o person_n of_o sinner_n and_o his_o undertake_n for_o they_o the_o obligation_n of_o the_o law_n of_o work_n be_v â—ft_v out_o to_o which_o i_o will_v return_v these_o thing_n 1._o if_o christ_n â—tting_v on_o the_o person_n of_o sinner_n be_v leave_v out_o it_o be_v better_a out_o â—an_v put_v in_o till_o it_o be_v know_v what_o it_o signify_v 2._o and_o for_o the_o other_o expression_n christ_n undertake_v answer_n for_o they_o the_o obligation_n of_o the_o law_n of_o work_n be_v at_o leave_v out_o too_o and_o not_o a_o word_n put_v in_o their_o place_n that_o peculiar_a to_o a_o proper_a satisfaction_n pray_v then_o let_v we_o read_v the_o â—ords_n as_o he_o have_v quote_v they_o p._n 6._o christ_n by_o agreementâ—â—ween_v the_o father_n and_o he_o come_v into_o our_o room_n and_o stead_n answer_v for_o our_o violation_n of_o the_o law_n of_o work_n what_o be_v â—e_a nice_a difference_n then_o between_o christ_n answer_v for_o 〈◊〉_d violation_n of_o the_o law_n and_o answer_v for_o we_o the_o violaâ—on_n or_o what_o the_o critical_a difference_n between_o christ_n answer_v for_o they_o the_o violation_n and_o answer_v theirâ—â—iolation_n â—â—iolation_z of_o the_o law_n of_o work_n he_o that_o answer_v for_o 〈◊〉_d the_o violation_n of_o the_o law_n answer_v for_o my_o violation_n the_o 〈◊〉_d law_n but_o this_o it_o be_v to_o be_v hypnewcritick_n in_o theâ—gy_n when_o it_o be_v often_o ridiculous_a even_o in_o philology_n but_o the_o eye_n that_o see_v all_o other_o thing_n see_v not_o itself_o â—d_a this_o manuscripturist_n that_o can_v discern_v the_o more_o the_o eye_n of_o the_o three_o paper_n can_v not_o see_v the_o beam_n at_o be_v in_o his_o own_o let_v the_o impartial_a judge_n the_o first_o â—â—per_n express_v itself_o thus_o christ_n put_v on_o the_o person_n use_v come_v into_o the_o room_n and_o stead_n of_o sinner_n to_o answer_v for_o â—m_n the_o obligation_n of_o the_o violate_a law_n of_o work_n the_o â—hird_n paper_n thus_o to_o answer_v for_o our_o violation_n of_o the_o â—â—w_n of_o work_n but_o this_o faithful_a person_n repeat_v it_o thus_o answer_v for_o they_o the_o obligation_n of_o the_o law_n of_o work_n the_o â—bligations_n of_o a_o law_n as_o it_o stand_v entire_a be_v one_o thing_n and_o 〈◊〉_d obligation_n of_o a_o law_n as_o violate_v be_v clear_o another_o 〈◊〉_d where_o passion_n prevail_v we_o must_v not_o expect_v impartiâ—ty_n especial_o if_o any_o thing_n of_o mr._n williams_n fall_v under_o consideration_n i_o will_v close_v this_o head_n with_o this_o short_a note_n it_o be_v free_o grant_v that_o christ_n suffer_v and_o die_v for_o the_o person_n 〈◊〉_d sinner_n that_o he_o suffer_v and_o die_v for_o the_o sin_n of_o the_o person_n that_o he_o suffer_v and_o die_v in_o the_o room_n and_o steaâ—_n of_o their_o person_n that_o he_o suffer_v and_o die_v to_o make_v satisfaction_n to_o the_o justice._n to_o the_o vindictive_a justice_n of_o god_n nay_o he_o live_v in_o their_o person_n by_o faith_n and_o live_v for_o ever_o 〈◊〉_d plead_v for_o their_o person_n on_o the_o throne_n and_o yet_o all_o thâ—_n be_v nothing_o unless_o it_o be_v grant_v that_o christ_n die_v in_o the_o person_n of_o sinner_n too_o which_o they_o be_v resolve_v he_o shaâ—â—_n do_v whether_o he_o or_o the_o scripture_n will_v or_o no._n 6._o i_o have_v almost_o forget_v a_o passage_n in_o the_o manuscript_n for_o which_o i_o ought_v to_o have_v beg_v pardon_n because_o 〈◊〉_d contain_v so_o much_o learning_n in_o p._n 7._o what_o more_o commâ—_n among_o the_o learned_a than_o subrogatum_fw-la &_o suffectum_fw-la in_o locuâ—alterius_fw-la ejus_fw-la naturam_fw-la