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death_n or_o give_v vote_n in_o the_o sentence_n of_o condemnation_n at_o which_o council_n be_v present_a 2_o archbishop_n 12_o bishop_n and_o 21_o abbot_n and_o before_o h._n two_o '_o s_o time_n this_o canon_n of_o toledo_n be_v receive_v into_o the_o body_n of_o the_o canon-law_n make_v by_o ivo_n burchardus_fw-la regino_n and_o gratian_n who_o live_v in_o the_o time_n of_o k._n stephen_n and_o when_o they_o see_v such_o a_o canon_n so_o general_o receive_v be_v there_o not_o far_o great_a reason_n to_o think_v they_o desire_v to_o withdraw_v then_o that_o they_o shall_v press_v to_o be_v present_a and_o the_o king_n restrain_v they_o but_o the_o constitution_n be_v so_o frame_v on_o purpose_n to_o let_v they_o understand_v that_o the_o king_n expect_v in_o all_o judgement_n they_o shall_v do_v their_o duty_n as_o other_o baron_n but_o lest_o they_o shall_v think_v he_o purposely_o design_v to_o make_v they_o break_v the_o canon_n he_o leave_v they_o at_o liberty_n to_o withdraw_v 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lett._n p._n 66._o p._n 21._o lett._n p._n 2_o 3._o lett._n p._n 5._o lett._n p._n 86._o hincmar_n epist_n de_fw-fr ordine_fw-la lalatii_fw-la council_n franc._n c._n 3._o &_o 9_o marculph_n form_n l._n 1._o c._n 25._o not._n in_o marc._n p._n 287._o council_n tolet_n 4._o c._n 75._o 5._o c._n 7._o 6._o c._n 17._o 8._o in_o praef._n 12._o c._n 1._o 17._o c._n 1._o 17._o c._n 1._o cont_n l._n tolet_n 13._o c._n 2._o rer._n aleman_n to._n 2._o cod._n leg._n antiq._n b._n 362._o arumae_fw-la de_fw-fr comitiis_fw-la â—_o 35._o c._n 4._o â—_o 98._o goldast_n bohem_n l._n 5._o c._n 1._o bonfin_fw-fr dec_fw-la 2._o l._n 1._o decret_n ladiss_fw-la p._n 12._o starovolse_a â—olon_fw-mi p._n 2â—5_n herburt_n stat._n regni_fw-la pol._n p._n 263._o adam_n brem_n de_fw-fr situ_fw-la dan._n n._n 85._o loccen_n antiq_n sâ—eco_fw-la goth._n c._n 8._o ius_n aulicum_fw-la nâ—rveg_n c._n 3._o c._n 36._o lett._n p._n 3_o 4._o stat._n merton_n c._n 9_o 20_o h._n 3._o dissert_n ad_fw-la flet._n c._n 9_o §_o 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it_o will_v not_o amount_v to_o so_o much_o as_o a_o blind_a manuscript_n if_o it_o be_v say_v that_o brompton_n only_a mention_n earl_n and_o baron_n and_o bishop_n be_v not_o then_o make_v baron_n i_o answer_v that_o barony_n be_v bring_v into_o england_n by_o the_o conqueror_n and_o therefore_o brompton_n must_v speak_v improper_o and_o consequent_o take_v it_o only_o for_o a_o title_n of_o honour_n he_o mean_v no_o more_o than_o those_o who_o be_v the_o great_a man_n of_o that_o time_n and_o so_o may_v take_v in_o the_o bishop_n too_o of_o which_o more_o afterward_o but_o there_o be_v one_o thing_n more_o in_o the_o law_n of_o h._n i._o which_o be_v only_o a_o restore_a k._n edward_n law_n that_o imply_v that_o bishop_n have_v then_o a_o power_n of_o judge_v in_o case_n capital_a which_o be_v c._n 58._o qui_fw-la occiderit_fw-la episcopum_fw-la sit_fw-la in_o arbitrio_fw-la principis_fw-la &_o episcoporum_fw-la he_o that_o kill_v a_o bishop_n be_v to_o be_v leave_v to_o the_o 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