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A15734 A dangerous plot discovered By a discourse, wherein is proved, that, Mr: Richard Mountague, in his two bookes; the one, called A new gagg; the other, A iust appeale: laboureth to bring in the faith of Rome, and Arminius: vnder the name and pretence of the doctrine and faith of the Church of England. A worke very necessary for all them which haue received the truth of God in loue, and desire to escape errour. The reader shall finde: 1. A catalogue of his erroneous poynts annexed to the epistle to the reader. 2. A demonstration of the danger of them. cap. 21. num. 7. &c. pag. 178. 3. A list of the heads of all the chapters contained in this booke. Wotton, Anthony, 1561?-1626. 1626 (1626) STC 26003; ESTC S120313 151,161 289

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they_o say_v be_v by_o transubstantiation_n the_o bishop_n say_v we_o dissent_v about_o the_o real_a presence_n m._n mountagu_n say_v no_o for_o say_v he_o our_o dissent_n be_v mere_o about_o transubstantiation_n by_o which_o it_o appear_v m._n mountagu_n his_o argument_n in_o the_o behalf_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v answer_v long_o before_o he_o be_v bear_v it_o may_v be_v he_o will_v reply_v to_o this_o answer_n of_o the_o bishop_n that_o it_o be_v not_o sufficient_a and_o give_v the_o reason_n for_o it_o which_o he_o allege_v in_o the_o like_a case_n in_o his_o appeal_v pag._n 291._o viz._n the_o devil_n breed_v he_o up_o in_o a_o faction_n and_o send_v he_o abroad_o to_o do_v he_o service_n in_o maintain_v a_o faction_n and_o thus_o he_o must_v reply_v or_o blot_v out_o of_o both_o his_o book_n that_o bitter_a sentence_n which_o be_v write_v against_o all_o such_o as_o make_v any_o difference_n between_o the_o romish_a church_n and_o we_o in_o the_o point_n of_o real_a 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church_n of_o england_n do_v oppose_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n in_o the_o point_n of_o real_a presence_n as_o follow_v 1_o many_o of_o our_o nation_n have_v give_v their_o body_n to_o the_o fire_n for_o deny_v it_o 2_o it_o have_v be_v proclaim_v against_o by_o our_o minister_n without_o any_o blame_n from_o authority_n or_o know_v opposition_n from_o any_o of_o we_o 3_o our_o church_n have_v determine_v what_o be_v to_o be_v hold_v touch_v the_o nature_n and_o effect_n of_o this_o sacrament_n and_o have_v not_o a_o word_n of_o the_o real_a presence_n our_o church_n have_v determine_v that_o the_o sacrament_n be_v to_o be_v eat_v take_v and_o give_v only_o after_o a_o spiritual_a manner_n and_o by_o faith_n and_o deny_v worship_n to_o it_o arti._n 28._o that_o the_o wicked_a receive_v the_o sign_n but_o be_v not_o partaker_n of_o christ_n arti._n 29._o that_o it_o ought_v to_o be_v administer_v to_o all_o man_n in_o both_o kind_n arti._n 30._o which_o it_o will_v not_o have_v do_v if_o it_o have_v grant_v the_o popish_a real_a presence_n last_o bishop_n jewel_n in_o the_o name_n and_o defence_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n deny_v it_o and_o maintain_v that_o that_o article_n of_o the_o popish_a faith_n be_v erroneous_a first_o in_o his_o apology_n beginning_n at_o chapter_n 12_o the_o 2_o part_n and_o so_o forward_o and_o again_o in_o his_o reply_n to_o harding_n arti._n 5._o and_o this_o i_o hope_n be_v sufficient_a to_o prove_v that_o the_o church_n of_o england_n reject_v the_o popish_a real_a presence_n it_o remain_v in_o the_o three_o place_n that_o we_o examine_v whether_o the_o popish_a real_a presence_n be_v true_a or_o not_o but_o of_o that_o i_o find_v nothing_o in_o he_o it_o be_v meet_v for_o he_o to_o have_v prove_v it_o before_o he_o have_v pronounce_v the_o opposer_n thereof_o be_v breed_v by_o the_o devil_n as_o he_o do_v in_o the_o word_n which_o i_o have_v allege_v that_o he_o prove_v it_o not_o in_o his_o gag_n it_o be_v no_o marvel_n for_o there_o he_o go_v hand_n in_o hand_n with_o his_o adversary_n that_o he_o do_v it_o not_o in_o his_o appeal_v be_v because_o he_o can_v not_o for_o there_o he_o have_v good_a cause_n to_o show_v all_o his_o strength_n only_o i_o find_v in_o his_o gag_n pag._n 250._o these_o word_n he_o give_v substance_n and_o real_o subsist_v essence_n who_o say_v this_o be_v my_o body_n this_o be_v my_o blood_n these_o word_n be_v little_a other_o than_o a_o riddle_n yet_o i_o will_v make_v the_o best_a of_o they_o my_o answer_n thereunto_o will_v explicate_v the_o matter_n and_o take_v away_o that_o which_o may_v seem_v to_o fortify_v the_o popish_a real_a presence_n thus_o it_o may_v be_v frame_v if_o christ_n give_v substance_n
he_o complain_v of_o false_a injurious_a unhonest_a fiery_a frantic_a etc._n etc._n informer_n and_o promoter_n but_o under_o what_o colour_n in_o what_o rank_n shall_v this_o champion_n be_v marshal_v if_o you_o set_v he_o in_o the_o vanguard_n he_o will_v be_v in_o the_o enemy_n front_n before_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o battle_n approach_n if_o you_o place_v he_o in_o the_o rear_n you_o restrain_v his_o valour_n he_o complain_v the_o mother_n be_v strike_v through_o the_o side_n of_o a_o brother_n but_o here_o both_o mother_n and_o all_o her_o child_n strike_v through_o the_o heart_n with_o one_o stroke_n together_o she_o a_o dallier_n all_o they_o fool_n or_o infant_n what_o shall_v i_o say_v to_o it_o if_o this_o be_v your_o obedience_n to_o your_o mother_n reverence_n to_o your_o diocesan_n and_o kindness_n to_o your_o friend_n then_o of_o this_o point_n enough_o i_o proceed_v to_o the_o next_o chap._n vii_o mr_n montague_n church_n of_o rome_n ch._n of_o eng_n freewill_n be_v in_o we_o subsist_v not_o in_o title_n only_o gag_n p._n 108._o 1._o there_o be_v freewill_n be_v as_o true_a as_o gospel_n we_o grant_v it_o as_o much_o as_o themselves_o gag_n p._n 114._o there_o be_v in_o we_o both_o the_o faculty_n and_o use_n of_o freewill_n be_v certain_a in_o faith_n and_o decree_v in_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n suarez_n opusc_fw-la 1._o lib._n 1._o num_fw-la 1._o cap._n 1._o the_o grace_n of_o god_n do_v prevent_v we_o that_o we_o may_v have_v a_o good_a will_n and_o work_v with_o we_o when_o we_o have_v that_o good_a will_n arti_fw-la 10._o freewill_n be_v a_o power_n whereby_o we_o eat_v etc._n etc._n we_o assent_v disagree_v witting_o willing_o without_o constraint_n appeal_n p._n 99_o freewill_n consist_v not_o only_o in_o the_o faculty_n of_o work_v voluntary_o or_o of_o choice_n &_o willing_o that_o be_v not_o against_o the_o will_n but_o also_o it_o include_v a_o power_n of_o do_v and_o of_o not_o do_v which_o usual_o be_v call_v a_o dominion_n over_o 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sin_n not_o extinct_a or_o amolish_v in_o corrupt_a nature_n such_o as_o now_o it_o be_v p._n 108._o  _fw-fr  _fw-fr 4._o man_n have_v freewill_n in_o action_n of_o piety_n and_o such_o as_o belong_v to_o his_o salvation_n gag_n p._n 109._o man_n freewill_n be_v not_o lose_v and_o extinct_a after_o the_o fall_n of_o adam_n nor_o be_v a_o thing_n consist_v in_o title_n only_o council_n trent_n sess_v 6._o can_n 5._o  _fw-fr 5._o we_o grant_v the_o general_a be_v work_a and_o concur_v of_o freewill_n with_o god_n grace_n p._n 115._o  _fw-fr  _fw-fr 6._o man_n have_v freewill_n after_o prevent_v grace_n in_o cooperation_n to_o the_o increase_n of_o grace_n p._n 108._o man_n be_v dispose_v unto_o the_o turn_n of_o himself_o unto_o his_o own_o justification_n by_o exciting_a and_o adiuvate_a grace_n in_o assent_v and_o cooperate_n free_o with_o the_o same_o grace_n  _fw-fr 7._o man_n do_v free_o renounce_v the_o call_n of_o grace_n &_o free_o run_v themselves_o p._n 112._o  _fw-fr  _fw-fr 8._o i_o think_v no_o man_n will_v deny_v that_o man_n freewill_n may_v resist_v the_o holy_a ghost_n in_o prevent_v and_o operate_a grace_n not_o suffer_v he_o to_o work_v the_o work_n of_o grace_n in_o they_o so_o may_v he_o also_o against_o adiuvate_a grace_n ap._n p._n 89._o when_o god_n touch_v man_n heart_n by_o the_o illumination_n of_o his_o holy_a spirit_n man_n do_v not_o altogether_o nothing_o receive_v that_o inspiration_n for_o because_o he_o can_v also_o reject_v the_o same_o council_n trent_n ses_fw-fr 6._o cap._n 5._o and_o can_v dissent_v if_o he_o will_n can_v 4._o  _fw-fr man_n be_v draw_v he_o run_v as_o his_o assistance_n his_o own_o agillitie_n and_o disposition_n be_v gag_n p._n 110._o  _fw-fr  _fw-fr man_n be_v prevent_v by_o grace_n he_o than_o put_v too_o his_o hand_n to_o procure_v augmentation_n of_o that_o grace_n gag_n p._n 110._o  _fw-fr  _fw-fr chap._n viii_o the_o point_n of_o freewill_n set_v down_o in_o the_o former_a chapter_n be_v debate_v in_o 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act_n or_o decree_n of_o predestination_n after_o this_o sort_n appeal_v p._n 61._o to_o 65._o 1_o god_n decree_v to_o create_v man_n 2_o he_o create_v man_n good_a 3_o man_n fall_v from_o that_o good_a 4_o by_o that_o fall_n he_o be_v plunge_v into_o perdition_n 5_o god_n see_v he_o and_o have_v compassion_n of_o he_o 6_o he_o stretch_v out_o deliverance_n to_o they_o in_o a_o mediator_n 7_o draw_v they_o out_o which_o take_v hold_v of_o mercy_n this_o i_o must_v profess_v predestination_n to_o life_n be_v the_o everlasting_a purpose_n of_o god_n whereby_o before_o the_o foundation_n of_o the_o world_n be_v lay_v he_o have_v constant_o decree_v by_o his_o council_n secret_a to_o we_o to_o deliver_v from_o curse_n and_o damnation_n those_o who_o he_o have_v choose_v in_o christ_n out_o of_o mankind_n and_o to_o bring_v they_o by_o christ_n to_o everlasting_a salvation_n as_o vessel_n make_v to_o honour_n chap._n xx._n the_o point_n of_o predestination_n be_v debate_v this_o chapter_n 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church_n do_v so_o artic._n 17._o and_o the_o scripture_n be_v more_o frequent_a in_o that_o and_o no_o marvel_n why_o because_o the_o scripture_n be_v write_v for_o the_o direction_n and_o consolation_n of_o they_o that_o shall_v go_v to_o heaven_n i_o have_v frame_v it_o altogether_o by_o his_o own_o direction_n the_o question_n of_o predestination_n be_v put_v so_o by_o himself_o as_o i_o will_v now_o show_v appeal_v page_n 38._o he_o call_v it_o a_o act_n or_o decree_n of_o god_n which_o must_v needs_o be_v a_o act_n of_o his_o will_n and_o so_o he_o term_v it_o appeal_v page_n 61._o this_o act_n be_v immanent_a not_o transient_a for_o he_o say_v in_o the_o same_o place_n he_o conceive_v it_o set_v by_o all_o
question_n but_o the_o will_n of_o intention_n only_o man_n may_v be_v predestinate_v in_o the_o will_n of_o intention_n before_o he_o have_v a_o actual_a be_v for_o god_n may_v so_o decree_v when_o man_n be_v but_o in_o possibility_n to_o be_v as_o suarez_n well_o observe_v as_o vessel_n make_v to_o honour_n in_o this_o last_o branch_n our_o church_n assign_v the_o end_n of_o predestination_n &_o the_o manner_n how_o it_o flow_v from_o the_o same_o the_o end_n be_v signify_v by_o these_o word_n make_v unto_o honour_n by_o honour_n be_v signify_v both_o the_o glory_n &_o honour_n give_v unto_o god_n by_o declare_v his_o attribute_n as_o providence_n and_o love_n unto_o the_o reasonable_a creature_n as_o also_o the_o honour_n which_o the_o creature_n receive_v from_o god_n in_o behold_v he_o face_n to_o face_n wherein_o the_o true_a and_o proper_a nature_n of_o blessedness_n consist_v that_o be_v the_o supreme_a this_o the_o next_o end_n of_o predestination_n and_o that_o our_o church_n 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