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A07801 A defence of the innocencie of the three ceremonies of the Church of England viz. the surplice, crosse after baptisme, and kneeling at the receiuing of the blessed Sacrament. Diuided into two parts: in the former whereof the generall arguments vrged by the non-conformists; and, in the second part, their particular accusations, against these III. ceremonies seuerally, are answered, and refuted. Published by authoritie. Morton, Thomas, 1564-1659. 1618 (1618) STC 18179; ESTC S112905 183,877 338

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the_o occasion_n thereof_o as_o they_o shall_v best_o tend_v to_o their_o edification_n sect_n vi_o the_o second_o place_n object_v for_o proof_n of_o their_o negative_a argument_n from_o scripture_n 2._o sam._n 7.7_o in_o all_o the_o place_n wherein_o i_o have_v walk_v with_o the_o child_n of_o israel_n speak_v i_o a_o word_n with_o any_o of_o the_o tribe_n of_o israel_n disp_n say_v why_o build_v you_o not_o i_o a_o house_n of_o cedar_n therefore_o shall_v thou_o say_v unto_o my_o servant_n david_n thus_o say_v the_o lord_n god_n of_o host_n etc._n etc._n this_o scripture_n show_v that_o no_o ceremony_n may_v be_v invent_v by_o man_n for_o god_n worship_n see_v that_o david_n intendment_n and_o purpose_n of_o build_v a_o temple_n unto_o god_n be_v ●ere_z reprove_v by_o god_n as_o unlawful_a which_o be_v the_o cause_n that_o god_n do_v prohibit_v he_o by_o nathan_n in_o these_o word_n verse_n 5._o go_v tell_v my_o servant_n david_n say_v shall_v thou_o build_v a_o house_n for_o i_o to_o dwell_v in_o whereas_o i_o have_v not_o dwell_v in_o any_o house_n etc._n etc._n our_o first_o answer_n god_n do_v not_o condemn_v the_o intent_n and_o purpose_n of_o david_n to_o build_v a_o temple_n to_o the_o lord_n for_o first_o david_n have_v consult_v with_o the_o prophet_n about_o it_o and_o nathan_n give_v he_o his_o fiat_n vers_fw-la 3._o go_v say_v he_o to_o david_n do_v all_o that_o be_v in_o thy_o heart_n for_o the_o lord_n be_v with_o thou_o second_o the_o tenor_n of_o the_o prohibition_n be_v vers_fw-la 5._o say_v to_o my_o servant_n david_n shall_v thou_o build_v i_o a_o house_n god_n never_o give_v any_o such_o honourable_a and_o gracious_a title_n to_o any_o man_n as_o to_o call_v he_o my_o servant_n in_o reproof_n of_o any_o transgression_n three_o the_o reason_n render_v by_o solomon_n 5.3.4_o why_o god_n prohibit_v david_n and_o command_v solomon_n to_o build_v he_o a_o house_n be_v because_o david_n be_v yet_o in_o war_n and_o solomon_n have_v now_o rest_n 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as_o i_o may_v so_o say_v by_o way_n of_o extortion_n to_o draw_v from_o the_o nonconformist_n a_o confession_n of_o their_o error_n but_o this_o second_o be_v by_o retortion_n return_v against_o they_o the_o whole_a force_n of_o their_o own_o argument_n from_o the_o same_o example_n which_o they_o have_v object_v for_o if_o that_o this_o act_n of_o david_n without_o special_a warrant_n be_v commend_v by_o god_n than_o all_o institution_n of_o ceremony_n by_o man_n belong_v to_o god_n service_n be_v not_o therefore_o to_o be_v condemn_v because_o they_o want_v that_o express_a warrant_n which_o they_o pretend_v sect_n viii_o the_o three_o place_n object_v by_o the_o nonconformist_n for_o proof_n of_o their_o negative_a argument_n from_o scripture_n hy_o jer._n 7.22.23.31_o for_o i_o speak_v not_o to_o your_o father_n nor_o command_v they_o in_o the_o day_n that_o i_o bring_v they_o out_o of_o the_o land_n of_o egypt_n concern_v burn_v offering_n and_o sacrifice_n but_o this_o thing_n 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receive_v at_o the_o hand_n of_o god_n in_o these_o respect_v they_o be_v true_o call_v divine_a hence_o therefore_o you_o see_v it_o be_v good_a cause_n why_o they_o ought_v to_o be_v call_v significant_a so_o than_o you_o have_v by_o these_o example_n as_o it_o be_v the_o anatomy_n of_o your_o proposition_n through_o every_o joint_n viz._n 1._o a_o ceremony_n of_o humane_a invention_n by_o judas_n machabaeus_n 2._o appropriate_v unto_o god_n service_n in_o a_o solemn_a feast_n 3._o ordain_v to_o teach_v a_o spiritual_a duty_n of_o thankfulness_n 4._o significant_a for_o benefit_n or_o blessing_n receive_v and_o all_o these_o as_o you_o see_v stand_v justifiable_a by_o analogy_n from_o the_o example_n allege_v sect_n xiii_o their_o first_o reply_n the_o church_n may_v appoint_v holy-day_n in_o certain_a case_n 191.192_o but_o it_o be_v one_o thing_n to_o restrain_v part_n of_o the_o day_n and_o another_o to_o restrain_v the_o whole_a day_n our_o answer_n if_o any_o man_n shall_v 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confutation_n of_o the_o nonconformist_n prove_v both_o that_o a_o reverence_n be_v due_a at_o the_o receive_n of_o the_o bless_a sacrament_n and_o that_o the_o reverence_n by_o kneel_v have_v not_o affinity_n with_o romish_a idolatry_n first_o by_o reason_n and_o the_o ground_n thereof_o as_o difference_n of_o colour_n be_v best_a discern_v when_o they_o be_v compare_v together_o so_o may_v we_o most_o easy_o distinguish_v the_o diverse_a opinion_n both_o of_o our_o protestant_n from_o papist_n and_o of_o papist_n among_o themselves_o concern_v relative_n or_o respective_a worship_n by_o only_o relate_v of_o their_o different_a object_n especial_o in_o these_o term_n concern_v reverence_n we_o shall_v therefore_o first_o discover_v the_o error_n of_o popery_n herein_o and_o so_o will_v the_o truth_n of_o our_o reverence_n be_v better_a discern_v sect_n xxx_o our_o first_o ground_n of_o confutation_n be_v by_o discover_v of_o the_o romish_a superstition_n in_o her_o manner_n of_o 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