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A82508 A defence of sundry positions, and Scriptures alledged to justifie the Congregationall-way; charged at first to be weak therein, impertinent, and unsufficient; by R.H. M. A. of Magd. Col. Cambr. in his examination of them; but upon further examination, cleerly manifested to be sufficient, pertinent, and full of power. / By [brace] Samuel Eaton, teacher, and Timothy Taylor, pastor [brace] of [brace] the church in Duckenfield, in Cheshire. Published according to order. Eaton, Samuel, 1596?-1665.; Taylor, Timothy, 1611 or 12-1681. 1645 (1645) Wing E118; Thomason E308_27; ESTC R200391 116,862 145

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