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A62156	Righteous judgment placed upon the heads of malicious opposers and persecuting apostates in some brief animadversions upon Francis Buggs book, entitled, De Christiana libertate, in which his great weakness and gross wickedness is detected, his foul defamations and uncivil reflections are reprehended : with a seasonable warning to him and the rest of his abettors in their mischievous work of opposition to and separation from, the Lord and his people / by a lover of peace, Robert Sandilands : together with an Ingredient by another hand.	Sandilands, Robert.; Richardson, Richard, 1623?-1689. Another ingredient against the venom in F.B.'s book.	1683 (1683)	Wing S661; ESTC R32326	57,765	142

exercise of it Church Discipline and Conformity to it Poor Man Thou look'st far abroad to seek the Cause of Division and little minds to look at home in thine own House and for all thy vain insolent Braggs and proud Boastings in bringing thy proof That there is Violence Tyranny and what not done to our first Principles of Union citeing W. P's Saying in his Address to Pro●● pag. 149. That Perswasion and Conviction began all true Christian Societies and whether his violence upon this part Tyranny and not Order is introduced c. I say it is a Lie in thee to insinuate the contrary as to us and Reader to evince the same consider but the weakness of his Proof for which he inserts G. F's New Order as he in his flouring mind terms it wrote about the year 71. for Womens Meetings to be held Distinct from Mens Meetings and was confirm'd afterwards as he says by a General Council or Yearly Meeting c. viz Dear Friends To whom is my love in that which changes not it would do well and be of service for you to have a Womens Meeting as they have in other parts c. I refer thee to the perusal of the rest of G. F.'s Epistle which I believe he wrote from a sense of the holy Power and see if thou canst find any thing therein like unto imposition violence or alteration done to our first Principles of Union In page 38. he scoffingly and impertinently says At the Yearly Meeting or General Council held at London in the year 75. The said Grant or Order was strengthneed and confirmed in all points and with as much Policy as ever the Learned Bishops or Grave Senates used to establish their Monarchical Governments c. The understanding Reader may perceive his weakness and folly herein And in page 40. he greatly braggs to give both proof and president of what he insinuated and so transcribes something concerning propounding of Marriages which he calls the confirmation of the Foundation of the Womens Meetings namely G. F. his Order above recited by a General Council held at London Anno 1675. London 27. 3 Mo. 75. IT is our Judgment That for better satisfaction to all parties that there may be due time for Enquiry of Clearness of the persons concerned it is convenient that Marriages be twice propounded to the Meetings that are to take care therein both to the Mens and Womens Meetings where both are established before they are accomplished and when things are cleared that the Marriage be accomplished in a Grave and Publick Assembly of Friends or Relations I have set this down verbatim as I found it in F. B's Book wherein thou maist observe First It 's said It is our Judgment that for better satisfaction to all parties c. not for Imposition upon any Secondly It is convenient here 's a good cause and reason And Thirdly Where both are established c. For my part he must see further than I can that draws such an Unnatural Conclusion from the premises of Imposition Violence or Tyranny done to the first Principles of our Union But to prove yet the same it seems he is somewhat pinched for he strains and snatches greedily every thing he can to make out his matter In pag. 42. he saith I am necessitated to transcribe more of the transactions of this Notable if not Vniversal Council than I am willing Alas that ever thou should'st have been so willing to serve the Devil at such a rate as thou does too too willing Francis to make use of all thy strength to hatch out of Hell and plod in the dark if thou canst thereby but abuse an innocent people lest G. W. should again call for a Proof or Catalogue of their new stamped Government And to this end he inserts another paper which Friends wrote concerning Men and Womens Meetings It is our Judgment and Testimony in the Word of Gods Wisdom that the rise and practice setting up and establishment of Mens and Womens Meetings in the Church of Christ in this our day and generation is according to the mind and counsel of God and done in the endearing of his eternal Spirit and that it is the duty of all Friends and Brethren in the power of God in all places to be diligent therein and to encourage and further each other in that blessed work c. I refer the Reader to consider the rest of this and compare it and the former with a Letter of advice and counsel for the help and information of the weak and lately convinced pag. 28. wherein in he says It was so worded as that Christian Liberty was preserved and the People not imposed upon beyond their freedom And see if there be such a vast difference as he would insinuate in pag. 45. Behold says he the difference between this Decree and the n = * Yet in that I do not find Chap. nor verse of Matthew Mark Luke or John which he calls for so much Letter of Advice and Counsel inn the first Chapter c. That was not proposed otherwise then Advise and Counsel and not as a Form or Rule to walk by c. CHAP. V. ANd Reader That thou maist see whether this Author either looks like to be a sober discreet prudent Man or like a true Christian Quaker as he and W. R. and some few of their party would be reckoning themselves as only such I will here insert something of his flouting Mockery and idle Drollery in his Observations upon the fore-going paper and indeed the greatest part of his Book I mean this Second part and what properly may be termed his is stuffed up with such impertinent Stories and uncivil Reflections In pag. 46. But says he to make good provision against any that shall yet dare to slight this new Model or new found Method of Church Government or call in question their power and authority see what a strict and severe Admonition is uttered forth even as if it had come from the Popes Council of Jesuits and Crafty Friars c. In pag. 47. and speaking of Womens Meetings I say if it be so why should not the Episcopalians Presbiterians Independants Baptists c. know of them and why not as many of them do of which we are not ashamed if all the World knew it and by the sober part of them are commended therefore but if it be a meer Imagination of their own brain I think strange Francis thou hast now so much discretion as but to suppose it and say If to it it seems it sticks a little in thy throat and thou wouldst fain come out with a positive Assertion if it were not an absolute down-right Lie of which it may be thou art conscious thy self to the contrary and therefore couldst not determine that it is meer Imagination c. and an Idol of their own erecting why should it not publickly be brought to Light and made as manifest as the Lord Crumwel made the Papists

great Idol viz. the Rood of Grace which had gogling eyes thou sain and would smile when a good gift was offered to it when he caused it to be brought to Pauls Cross where the People tore it all to peices in King Henry the Eighths time Francis Pray tell me Couldst thou find it in thy heart to use the Women and their Meetings so A body would think that such a gross wicked thing were far off from thy very thoughts much less to do so wickedly if it were in thy power But alas what thou hast publickly printed and falsly insinuated to the World that we are Imposers Apostates and Innovators and like to the Papists and are introducing Blind Obedience and Implicit Faith and that G. F. and his part are more severe than the Bishops of the Protestant Churches see pag. 195. These and many more malicious suggestions do they not be speak thy fury and envy and may not many suspect that thou wouldst gladly that both our Men and Women Friends and their Meetings too were exposed to the Rage Violence and Cruelty of our Enemies and Persecutors thereby to tear us in pieces Tell me Francis Would it not sadly grieve thee to see us so used as Lord Thomas Cromwel in K. H's time cause the Papists Rood of Grace to be torn in pieces Would not thine heart be sore to see such a dismal Tragedy Some may be rather think thou wouldst rathe rejoyce at it and may be as busie as any of them to add fewel to the fire and help forwards their work of Persecution as W. R. and T. C. have done and are doing what in you lies because they may safely judge whout breach of Charity that Spirit of Envy Slander and Malice by which you are guided naturally leads to it being the same ground in you from whence all Persecution hath proceeded And therefore if such work as this please thee I do not positively affirm it doth would not this shew the very worst part of the Spirit of Popery and too like the Spanish Inquisition I pray God to pity thee and the rest of thy Abettors and if it may stand with his holy will to forgive you and open your eyes to see the evil of your ways and what you have cruelly acted against him and his faithful innocent People This is the worst I wish you I can uprightly say and God knoweth I lie not But to proceed I will give thee Reader a further relish of this scoffing Spirit that hath prevailed upon this Author F. B. if so be he is the very Pen-man or Compiler of all this Second Part for I have my own reason to suspect some other Person to be concerned therein I mean as to the bulk of it for I find J. A's name in pag. 87. whether F. B. had power from J. A. to insert this yea or nay I cannot tell making his Observations upon the rise practice c. of the Womens Meetings according to the mind and counsel of God and the ordering of his Eternal Spirit which blessed be his holy Name many are living Witnesses this day who can set their seal to the verity thereof from their sensible experience of his sweet refreshing presence countenancing us in our Men and Womens Meetings Whereby says F. B. in his ordinary strain of mockery G. F. his erection of this as New as Needless Ceremony is ratified by these presents according to their true intent and meaning No Pope ever had a more true and loyal Council or one better skilled or more politick Is not F. B a plain Mocker and foolish Scoffer to save his Holiness from any danger or confirm his infallible and unerring ●nstitutions nay further I think they have granted to him his heirs and successors for ev●r I see no limit in the whole Ecclesiast●cal Cannon And in pag. 56. he says thus So that upon the whole matter I cannot see what could have hindred the compleating this Grant and Confiirmation had they put these four branches to the remaining six for they are in all twelve particulars and obtained their passing both Houses of Parliament and the Royall assent the neglect whereof hath been greatly d●sadvantageous to their carrying on their then notable Designs Reader What maist thou conclude hath this Man the stile of a true like Christian Quaker or sober discreet Man No surely one may more safely judge without any breach of Charity he is more like to a rambling Droller or Stage-player and an absolute Prophane Mocker in his base unsavoury expressions and a great deal of such I could mention had I either leasure or delight to trace him throughly But as we use to say A Dogs bark is no slander In pag 58 59. He most maliciously suggests to amuse people ignorant of us with strange apprehensions and harsh thoughts concerning us We says he that differ from others and desires their forbearance yet at the same time differing among our selves cannot nay will not bear one with another A humble lie We cry to the Ma●●strates for the liberty and free exercises of our Consciences in Matters Spiritual and will not nay resolves not come what will come to allow the free exercise of Conscience in Matters Spiritual to our Dissenting Brethren Oh depth of hypocrisie and fore-runner of Tyranny should you have power put into your hands be so you Peoples eyes are a little opened to see your Treachery your Double Dealing your Antichristian Dealing c. Is not this Man a Compleat System both of gross Lies and Envy and also of Malice Rancor and Drollery And in pag. 71. But too much like the Papists implicitely believe as the Church believes practise as the Church practises and in all points yield obedience to her Decrees without any examination scruple or doubt or else why should that abettor of the cause of G. F. advise as followeth viz. Let not this Spirit be reasoned with enter not into Proposals and Articles with it but feed it with Judgment that is Gods Decree By thy Observations on this it seems thou doest not understand what that means saying Mark the tendancy of this advice for should the Apostles have thus preached to the Bereans what liberty had been left for their search and further examination Nay Christ himself reasoned in the Synagogue of the Jews and the Apostles did the like a free Debate was admited when any difference arose amongst them which amongst us is stiffly denied There is Reader first a wicked Slander and Oli●●um cast upon us suggesting false●y we are too much like to Papists c. 2. His ignorance of that sentence of one of G. F's abettor as he calls him It s that treacherous deceitful perfidious opposite Spirit and not the Persons joyned thereto we are not to reason with and which is to be fed with Judgment and will be I know certainly its Gods Decree and it s well known what pains and labour we have taken to reclaim and recover many who have

your own Making of your own Framing a Child of your own Brain must be your Darling And so make to your selves a Graven Image This is not true of the people called Quakers but of thy self and such as thou art XII P. 115 116. he saith To discover that Hypocritical and Two-faced Practice viz. Of pleading to the Magistrate for Liberty of Conscience and at the same time are using and exercising all Force Rule Dominion and Authority they are capable to inflict upon their Brethren who cannot fall down and cry HOSANNA to every Likeness c. How loathsome is F.B. heaping up such a Dunghil of lyes XIII And p. 150 151 152 153. In a Letter of his to G.W. he thus saith It is reported that Nicholas Lucas told thee THOU WENTEST UP AND DOWN TO CHEAT THE COUNTRY I reckon he meant not of Money but the people of their Liberty they have right to Truly thy Behaviour hath manifested the Truth of his words in a great measure as I am abbe to make appear not only by thy Advice in Huntingtonshire but also by thy Erronious Doctrine amongst us c. Exercise Dominion Gentile like over your Brethren as if you were resolved to turn Monopolizers and Ingrossers of all Power Rule and Dominion over Consciences into your hands Oh! the Discord Contention and Debate which entered and doth daily increase by reason of the Ceremonies and your forced Conformity to them and the chief cause hereof lies at your Doors See the Certificate from Friends of Huntingtonshire inserted p. 90. which sufficiently detects his Abuses and Defamations against G. W. XIV And in p. 164. he thus insinuates viz. Whereby we thwart and contradict our avowed Principles and so are building again the thing we once destroyed and cryed out against condemning in others the things we allow in our selves Through which Practices a man may discern without a pair of Spectacles ERROUR and SUPERSTITION coming in apace LIMPING upon the old Crutches of IMPLICITE FAITH and BLIND OBEDIENCE What are those he thus accuseth The people called Quakers are not chargeable herewith XV. And in page 159. he thus insinuates When do any that write or dispute to defend our way of Worship write and speak like Fools except they can neither write nor speak otherwise and why do you cry out against Wisdom upon every accasion as if Ignorance were become our only Darling This is an abominable abuse we cry out against no Wisdom but corrupt fleshly earthly sensual devilish Wisdom XVI P. 163. George Fox See if thou hast not as much need of a battledore as the Schollars and Professors had n = * A Gross Lye who art as much APOSTATIZED from thy former Principles for liberty of Conscience as the Schollars and Professors were from the single Language viz. THEE and THOU to a single person And a little after he brings in this abusive lye and wicked Insinuation in rhime viz. This I set here not to Adore Because I do well understand He that gave forth the battle-dore Now brings Grapes of another Land Which sower be because not free From Force and Impositions Although as yet he will not see Them like old Romes Traditions Think'st to scare us out of our good Order with thy Goggle-eyed Image of Jealousie which if thou didst see through thy own Spectacles might affright thee out of thy shallow Conceits An ugly Spectacle For Rogers Crisp Pennyman Bullock and Bugg Dark Devil-driven Dungy-gods desp rately lug That are ty'd to the tail of their separate Schism Pap-Lihertin-Heathen-Juda-Athe-ism XVII And pag. 178. Speaking of Richard Richardson he thus Scossingly insinuates viz. If R. R. hath no better Logick he need not be admired by G. W. in print for his great Learning See R. R. Ingredients against the Venom in W. R s. Book Printed for John Bringhurst nor perhaps had not only he hath found out some History or Popish Author This is a lye for there are many Protestant Authors which say There were Deaconnesses as well as Deacons which were helpful to G. W. in his preaching and disputing for Womens Meetings lately in Huntingtonshire and elsewhere where he took too much upon him behaved himself more like a Lordly Bishop or Popish Prelate than an humble Minister of Christ This is confuted before XVIII Pa 195. And now I shall turn to the Bishops of the Protestant-Churches and do not question but shall make it appear that they their Power considered and that the Laws are on their sides are more moderate and use not that Severity to the Members of their Church although they are severe enough too that George Fox and those of party with him use to the poor QUAKERS if they chance to transgress their Traditions c. These are false and proofless insinuations XIX And in p. 200. They do not only testify against that BAD SPIRIT as they account it but HIM ALSO viz the MAN ALSO Oh! that we could but say TAKE HIM GOALER and that effectually A wicked Lye and base Insinuation XX. And in p. 291. he hath this abusive Scoff viz. For which very piece of Service Stamp and Probatum est I think that very Meeting deserves a TRIPPLE CROWN For this thou F. B. deserves to be reputed a Scornfull Lying Informer XXI Page 208. And now may they the Presbyterians say to G. F. What hadst thou rather that B. Clark and J. Bringhurst should sell Papists Books Play Books Jesting Books nay Books rather than that Book of W.R. What Papists books are these Prophane books we own not mark that and then brings in this lye for the reason of their not Selling it because it Discovers the Naked Truth of their NEW MODEL OF CHURCH GOVERNMENT But J. B. gives a Conscientious Reason to the Reader at the beginning of Chr. Taylors Epistle of Caution c. why he could not fell them And we testifie against Play-books Jesting-books Popish-books and disown the selling of them as we do the selling W. R's and thine for they are all from one spirit only yours the most malicious and less to be born because of your hypocritical pretended Friendship See Psalm 55.12 13. CHAP. X. IN this following Chapter I shall insert what the sense of J. S. and J. W. is concerning Womens-meetings and also what T. C. sayes in his Babels part 1st page 9. with a paper subscribed by Iohn Wilkinson and others of his party approving of and unanimously consenting to the Epistle of G. F. which F. B. terms his new order which was wrote about the year 1671 for womens Meetings all which contradicts F. B. in his violent Rage and most furious Clashings against Womens Meetings as the understanding impartial Reader may readily perceive by his perusing of the same First John Wilkinson's and John Story 's Sense concerning Womens Meetings As we do approve of Monthly and Quarterly meetings for the necessary service of the Truth some say that as these or any other meetings of Friends in Truth