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A11528 A trewe mirrour or glase wherin we maye beholde the wofull state of thys our realme of Englande set forth in a dialogue or communicacion betwene Eusebius and Theophilus. Saunders, Laurence, d. 1555, attributed author. 1556 (1556) STC 21777; ESTC S100967 20,497 40

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many become Antichristes alredye And therefore the daunger is not nowe onely but then and alwayes to be taken hede vnto And it is the more daunger in that they shall come in the name of Chryst pretendyng hys authoritye and by that meanes the rather deceaue the good simple mā beholde therefore I haue told you before saith the Lorde take hede c. Eusebius well yet I se not in al this but we haue as good cause to take hede of you as you of vs and more to for we are of greatter authorite and better can we showe for our selues then you T. That woulde I faine vnderstand for therein lyeth the whole matter E. Wel sir then harken first we are come to this poynt that betwene vs is stryfe whether we catholikes be the true churche of Chryst and you protestauntes false Prophetes or els we the false harlottes and you the trewe men The. Ye saye trueth nowe for the profe of your authorytye and that your catholykes be the true church of Chryste let vs heare what you can saye Eu. Thus I saye then that our churche hath been of a long continuaunce from Chrystes tyme vnto thys daye and it hath been also vniuersall thorowe out all Chrystendome not here or there but thorowe oute And they haue alwayes one consente within them selues now by these thre poyntes doe the greateste learned men geue a sure and certayne knowledge of the true church vnto all men that is to wite by antiquite vniuersalite and consent and me thynkes it sufficient for it cannot deceaue Theophilus Doe you thynke thys a sufficient proffe Eusebius Yea doutelesse what can you saye to the contrarye Theophilus Mary I say that by this reason ye maye proue the Scrybes and Pharyses to bee the true churche and Chryste to be a false Prophete for they professed Moises law and obserued it also better then your Catholikes doe now the gospel and thys law ye know was of great antiquitie and so were also many of theyr own tradicions that they had deuysed besyde that lawe so that they had antiquite sufficiente and vniuersall they were thoroweout all Iuda and Ierusalem as we thorowe Chrystendome and theyr consentye may vnderstande by the death of Chryste whereunto they all consented and agreed Eusebius Yea but ye must vnderstande that oure churche begane fyrste at Chryste and so from thence had her antiquitie and from him it beganne to be vniuersall and in hym the consente is effectuall Theophilus Naye then ye make your matter wursie then before Eusebius Dooe I so Theophilus Yea verely doe ye for tell me what thynke you of the churche of the Apostles was not that a perfecte true churche Eusebius Yes verely and so perfect as I beeleue there hath not been a perfecter Theophilus Very well but I praye you of what antiquitie were theyr You graunt that Chryst was the begynner of that churche beyng here a liuing man on earth And then howe could they alledge for themselues antiquitie And seyng they had not your markes specially antiquitie it shoulde appeare by your reason not to be the true churche or els if ye graunte that to bee the true churche and your churche and that churche haue not like probacion then muste youre churche be a false churche there is no remedy Eusebius Ye play the sophister with me now brother Theophilus T. Naye truly the reason is so playne that euery ploweman maye well vnderstande the same E. Well yet if they hadde not that antiquitie which we haue this maketh no discorde among vs for we haue antiquitie by the reasō we haue continued so longe in that doctryne and ordinaunces whiche they deliuered vnto vs now therfore is that same waxen olde by time which then was new begon and therfore thys is but a cauillacion of sophisters to shyft of an inconueniaunce whyche els would ensewe and thys is the maner of subtyle disputers as the most part of your opinion be subtile disputers and haue good heades full of inuencion and doutelesse many of them haue much learninge I moughte saye to muche well inoughe Theophilus That is the common saying of your catholykes nowe and yet I remember within these fewe yeares when they woulde crye oute and saie they haue no learning at all but onely haue redde an Englishe booke a to peny boke as for learning they had none And nowe agayne they saye they deceaue all the worlde by to muche learnyng thys they saye they care not what so they be talking But nowe whereas you thynke myne obieccion to be but a cauillacion ye muste vnderstande that it is a greate matter to deceaue men in the pryncypall poynte of our fayth as to reache vs to knowe the churche by a false meane as they saye by antiquitie whereas ye knowe the beste churche had it not But then whereas ye vrge antiquitie nowe for that ye haue of longe tyme continued in the doctryne and obseruaunces of the Apostles I denye that and put you to your proues wherin doe ye continew in the Apostles doctryne and obseruaunces Eusebius Forseth in all thynges that the churche teacheth there is nothyng as I thynke but the Scripture dooeth teache the same Theophilus Then I praye you tell me in what place of the Scripture doe you fynde that we ought to knele downe to crepe and kysse Images to sence them to decke them and trime them wyth such lyke or els rather tel me in how many places of the Scripture we be commaunded to the contrarye As in the second commaundemente and a thousande places beeside and like as in that poynte so almost in all the reste I could proue that your catholykes do not onely not folowe the doctrine of the holye Scripture but also teache another doctryne cōtrarye to the same now if they wyll yet for all that boast themselues of Chryste and the Apostles and yet teache another doctryne contrary to the holy Scriptures oughte we not to take hede and beware of them Eusebius Well yet tell me thys one thynge hath not Chryste had a Churche heare in earth euer sence hys resurreccion hath not the churche preached and continued visible a knowē churche styl in al places not in corners heare or there but thorowe oute all Christendom openly had the rule and gouerned the whole congregacion from time to time And your churche beganne of late yeares was a straunge thyng not knowen but a litell whyle in a fewe places of Germanye and so heare in England but it is quailed againe wythin short space and yet I cannot tell howe if it had been the trewe churche of Chryst it could not so sone haue been ouerthrowen wherfore if there were nothyng els but this reason yet is it sufficiente to stablysh the consciences of good simple men For there can be nothyng sayd vnto it Theoph. Yes Eusebius if ye list to hearken I wyll aunswere you in suche wyse as I trust you shal be satisfyed E. I wyl hearken gladlye Theophilus
the newe learnynge many euil mē T. It was most trew brother Eusebius and can not be denyed For there were in hel no veryer deuils thē many of thē were that professed the gospel for otherwyse there could haue ben no couler of these lyes and slaunders that are now spred as is said before For it was Iudas that bare the pouche it was Iudas that betraied hys master and many Iudasses in England vnder the pretence of religiō robbed both Kynge and realme these iudasses filled their own pouches made thēselues riche noble they care not who rule so long as they may geat enioye their possessions E. Well brother Theophilus here are no more but you I I dare be bolde herein to tel you my mind For I know you vnderstād in it as muche as I more to I dare say you do with as great a gref behold it sorow it as any English heart wil doe I heare say the king of Spayne shal at last be crouned kyng of Englād what say you to that T Alas brother Eusebius what should I say to it If god haue determyned who maye wythstande we muste commyt it to his good pleasure and wyll E. But do you not thynke it a plage T. Yes verely and an vtter desolacion of Englishe bloud E. Oh lord what meaneth thys T. I wyll tell you brother Euse The almightie god hath frō the beginning wrytten his wil and law not in tables of stone onely neyther in bokes of paper and ynke but also in the heartes of men as it is wrytten I wryte my lawes in theyr heartes and I wyl be theyr god and they shal be my people But leste any mā should dreame of these lawes and faine other in theyr stede they were written in tabels of stone and after in bokes of paper and inke so that to this day they are deuided and knowē from mens lawes And for our better instruccion herein the onely begotten sonne of God oure Lord Iesus Chryst hath accordyng to the fathers promyse stablyshed and confyrmed a new testament wherin he hath opened playnely the mysteries of Moyses law and the Prophetes not to breake them as the false Phariseis falsly reported of hym but to fulfyl them in executing thys hys new testament The which sound doctryne of health the world alwayes spurned at as they doe yet to thys daye And althoughe it were for a tyme suffered here in Englande by the prouidence of god and most earnestly preached and published yet was there that spurned at it and many abused it for there libertie for couetous lucre and such lyke many warninges we had for both partyes to amende but it woulde not be wherfore seeing we woulde not receaue hym but despise hym stil as the Iewes dyd we shal likewyse be destroyed as they were I se no other remedy E. God be merciful vnto vs but yet I meruayle that our nobilitie suffereth it T Why man ye must vnderstande that your catholykes nowe beare the rule youre prelates of the Churche haue al the doynges of these matters and ye knowe they hauinge none inheritaunce but for their liues beyng without wife and children rather then they would be brought down agayne as they were in king Edwardes dayes they had rather the Turke had the rule and gouernement therof E. I maye saye to you Theophilus they are shroudly suspected in this matter and I feare me not without good cause But yet I meruayle of the councellours who being put in trust with the gouernment and maye let the proceding hereof what shoulde moue them to consente thereunto T. As I may thynke my selfe assured of you as you of me and maye as boldely speake also my mynde to you as you to me and although faythful frendeship be vtterly banished thys Realme so that one brother al most cannot trust another yet frendship lurketh in corners secretely And I thynke my selfe safe with you brother Eusebius Your faythfulnes is to me so wel knowe I wil therfore show you what I coniecture to be the cause of their agrement a lamentable case it is and wyth great so row and grefe must I tel you herein my mind They be men that be louers of themselues yet they are so blinded with this self loue that they neither can foresee the miserable state of theyr coūtry neither yet their owne destruccion they dreame as Pope Iulius dyd who as the fabel telleth commaunded Sainct Peter to open heauen gates dreamyng himselfe to be Pope styll These men dreame that the King of Spaine wil make them alwaye of hys chefe counsel but. c. They haue been of King Harry the eightes coūcel broughte vp of meane men the moste parte Wherby they should be accōpted noble I know not For they excell not in learning and knoweledge they haue showed no greate proues of armes theyr loue to a common wealth is nowe declared But they be so infected with ambiciō that loke what pleaseth the affecciō of the Prince pleaseth also them For in King Henryes daies they were sworne to abolishe the popes supremacy with his vsurped power yea and they prosecuted the matter earnestly as it appered right wel for many lost theyr liues for the same Whē Kyng Henry was deade Kyng Edwarde hys sonne by the meanes of hys vncle then Lorde protectour subuerted al the Popes religion put down masse and altogether wherewithall they were well contented and set forewarde the matter withoute any scruple of conscyence I warrante you And many goodly lawes they lette make as wel for the mayntenaunce of that religion as also for the preseruacion of a commen wealth and before Kyng Edwarde was fullye dead they had concluded also with the Duke of Northumberlande vnder pretence of the stablishing of that religion and other goodly consideracions as it were to make hym Kyng contrary to al right and contrary to all the statutes of parlemente and so woulde haue disheryted the Quene that nowe is agaynste her fathers wil agaynst theyr own lawes agaynst all their othes and promise and without any iust cause at that time And al this notwithstanding whē they sawe how the game would goe they were contented to serue the Quenes wyll and nowe haue they sworne backe agayne to the holy father I heare say now agayne wheras the Quene goeth about not onely to breake her fathers wil and al such lawes statutes as were made for the preseruacion and safegarde of thys realme but is also determined of a selfe wyll to brynge England into the subieccion of a foren Prynce they haue not onely consented and agreed but are also chefe doers and procurers thereof for god hath blynded theyr eyes and theyr vnderstanding so that they cannot see nor perceaue their own destruccion and yet euery child seeth and euery good heart mourneth at it ful heuely E. Now surely Theophilus you haue spokē as trewe as the gospell for if he be once stablished King he may without contradiccion furnishe