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A49323 Du Moulin's Reflections reverberated being a full answer to a pernicious pamphlet entituled Moral reflections on the number of the elect : together with several arguments against transubstantiation of the outward elements in the sacrament of the Lords Supper, transubstantiated into falshood and absurdity : to which is added a postscript in answer to some passages in Mr. Edmund Hickeringil's scurrilous piece stiled The second part of naked truth / by Edward Lone ... Lane, Edward, 1605-1685. 1681 (1681) Wing L331; ESTC R10768 106,099 120

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Lord c. But little or nothing is written of their Repentance before they died yet will no man be so rash as to doubt of their Salvation Why should you then or your Complices be so peremptory as to cast a scruple about the Salvation of Solomon Cannot you be contented with that which is written of him Favoris Gratiâ but you must have a damnable sling at him as if he were hovering between Heaven and Hell But how else could you maintain your absurd Paradox of your hundred Thousands and Millions of Men that shall perish in their sins in comparison of one that shall be saved We read Joh. 13.1 whom the Lord loveth he loveth to the end and do we not read also again and again that the Lord loved Solomon 2 Sam. 12.24 Neh. 13.26 yea that this Love was confirmed unto him by the best Assurance that could be given him viz. propter Jehovam the Lord loved him for the Lords sake that is for Christ the Messiah's sake in whom all Gods Elect from the beginning of the World to the end are beloved with an everlasting love Did God chuse him out to be one of his Actuaries of his publick Records to his Church viz. the Book of the Proverbs the Book of Ecclesiastes or the Preacher the Book of the Canticles that pure Caelestial Epithalamum or Marriage Song and of two of the Psalms as the Title of them signifies viz. Ps 72. and Ps 127. And can it be probably thought that he should be dignified in this high Degree if he had been no better than a wretched Castaway in Gods eternal Purpose What were there not Heirs enough of everlasting Salvation to be inspired by the Holy Ghost for the office of a publick Notary of Heaven but one must be taken from among the Bondslaves of Hell to make up the number Was he a Preacher sent of God and was not one of his Books called Ecclesiastes his Recantation Sermon which he writ in his old age when he took a more serious view of his by-past Life wherein among other his Follies he sheweth his Abhorrency of his being misled by Women I find saith he more bitter than Death the Woman whose Heart is Snares and Nets Eccles 7.26 and her Hands as Bands Implying that though Death be bitter yet he had rather die than be entangled again in the Snares of a whorish Woman Which option may well be justified if we consider the Aggravations of this sin as they are rendred by a good Interpreter Bishop R. one of a Thousand and a right Reverend Preacher among us in our Church whose words are these viz. They that is wicked Harlots are more bitter than Death more pernicious and bring more heavy Miseries with them We read of the Bitterness of Death 1 Sam. 15.32 And of a worse Bitterness the end of a strange Woman is bitter c. and her steps take hold of Hell Pro. 5.4.5 Death may be sweetued and sanctified made a welcome and desirable thing to a Believer 1 Cor. 15. But the Bitterness of Hell is incurable Death may be honourable to die in a good Cause as our King Charles the Martyr comforted himself in his Death to die in a good old Age to go to the Grave in Peace lamented desired with the sweet savour of a holy Life and many good Works to follow one But to consume and putrifie alive under a Tabes of Impure Lusts to shipwrack a mans Honour ruine his Estate shorten his years consume his Flesh rot his Bones put a Hell into his Conscience to bury his Name his Substance his Soul his Carkass in the Bosom of a Harlot This is a Bitterness beyond that of Death This now is that which Solomon here means and complaineth of And whether this be a sound of Repentance or no judge you And if your judgment be of any value how dare you doubt of his Salvation Being so true a Penitent as you see neither can you but acknowledge him to be so Reflector Nothing can be concluded of the Salvation or damnation of those that were the Types of things to come Answer Can nothing then be concluded of the Salvation of Samson who was an Eminent Type of Jesus Christ So doth our Learned Whitaker demonstrate him to be viz. 1. In sanctitate nativâ 2. In servatoris Munere 3. In juvicto Robore 4. In morte calamitosa cum Hostibus If all this will not satisfie you the Apostles numbring him among the Saints Heb. 11. should convince you that you may conclude of his Salvation I could instance in sundry others as Gideon Jephthah c. But this may suffice to shew you your Errour herein Reflector For it happ'ned sometimes that one Person as Esau who was the Figure and Type of the Reprobate was also that of the most excellent thing in the World viz. The Righteousness of Jesus Christ under which a Jacob a Sinner obtained the Blessing of God Answer Your Reason here is defective both in Sense and Truth worthy therefore of no regard But that you may not flatter your self in your Folly What a confused shuffling words is here like the Quakers jumbling several things together without sense As for Esau it seems you have so much Charity for him as not to conclude him to be a Reprobate though the Spirit of God in Scripture hath noted him to be a prophane Person and one whom God hated But how it came to pass that he hath escap'd your censure of a Reprobate when you make him a Type of the Reprobate I know not it being a Rule in Logick if ever you learnt it de proportionalibus est idem judicium Et quod de uno secundum proportionem affirmatur id etiam de altero If Esau then be a Type of the Reprobate that is hath the Impression of a Reprobate upon him 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 as the word Type signifies He must needs be a Reprobate But let me demand of you is it for you or I to cast a Figure thus or create a Type of Gods eternal Decree concerning Mankind We should certainly usurp upon Gods Power if what is written in Scripture we may wrest it to our meaning without an express warrant from the Spirit of God And Polanus an Author whom I suppose you approve of saith Typi fuerant Figurae a Deo destinatae ad Res Divinas praefigurandas In Syntag. Let us not then be too bold to thrust our selves into Gods Pavillion by giving our Judgment of things which God hath kept in his own Power For my part I cannot say that Esau was a Type of the Reprobate much less that he himself was a Reprobate This I can say with good probability he was in that Generation admitted into the Church of God by the Sacrament of Circumsion as well as his Brother Jacob who though he took him by the Heel at the Birth signifying his future supplantation of him yet could he not supplant him in
Earth where is it at that time St. Peter tells us the Earth and the Works that are therein shall then be burnt up 2 Pet. 3.10 But his coming shall be in a Cloud with Power and great Glory Luke 21.27 so say the Evangelists and the Psalmist saith he makes the Clouds his Chariot Psal 104.3 such a Chariot it was that carried him into Heaven and such a Chariot it must be on which he will Ride when he cometh again so the Angels tell the Apostles Act. 1.11 But that will not be to the Earth the Wheels of his Chariot will not strike so low St. Paul who knew better than any man the way to the third H●aven and the way back again he I say sheweth the utmost extent of his Stage which will be at that time viz. the air for thus he writeth 1 Th●ss 4.17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with the Angels in the Clouds to meet the Lord in the Air c. To speak therefore of Christs coming again upon the Earth what is it but a Dream 2. He saith not as you say he shall not find faith upon the Earth but only by way of Interrogation thus Shall he find Faith c between which sayings there is some difference But 3. There is a great Error that followeth which hath deceived many and you among the rest who have rendred the word of our Saviour here as if he meant that all the whole Christian Profession should be utterly then Banished out of the World by a general Apostacy and Defection from the Faith This I say is a great Error that hath gone about the World and you it seems are willing somewhat to revive it But this is not the meaning of our Saviour for then would the Church be quite dissolved and how then should his Promise be fulfilled viz. that he would be with his People to the end of the World Can Christ be with his Church to the end of the World and yet find no Faith in it at all You 'll say he means but little saith or but sew that have faith and I say he means no such matter but that it is to be doubted whether he shall find any Faith meaning any Jewith Christians in the Land of Judaea when he comes to Iudge the persecuting Jewes that were in that Land For so the word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 is to be understood Rev. 1.7 viz. for this Land of Judaea not for all the Earth as it hath been taken as 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Tribes of Israel which word of our Saviour came to pass at that time when Jerusalem was destroyed as it is observed by Eu●cbius The People of the Church in Jerusalem that is the Christians there according to an Oracle delivered by Revelation to some honest Men among them commanding them to go over Jordan to a City called Pella did all remove thither and left Jerusalem without any Christians in it at their Destruction Which clearly fulfilled the Prophesie of our Saviour when the Son of man cometh shall he find faith in this Land that is the Land of Judaea In the next place you lead us to one of St. John's Visions and Revelations But neither doth Jesus Christ nor his Angel nor his Servant John say as you say that all the World shall run after the Beast The words in the place that is here fixed upon are in the original 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 which are not to be taken for all the World in your Sense but for the whole Land or Region where the Roman Idolatry was set up Neither do the following words viz. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 signifie a running or wandring after the Beast but a wondring behind or after it which implies their great Veneration of that Idol-Worship Which is further exprest by their saying who is like unto the Beast who can sight with him that is who is able to oppose this Idol-Worship or resist the Power by which it is upheld Rev. 13.4 And what Idol-Worship was this but that which was profest in the Capitol at Rome by the Inhabitants of that City while it was Heathenish See Dr. Hammond in his Paraphrase upon this matter and his Annotations This very probably is the right sense of the Spirit of God in those words 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 That Exposition of them therefore which you give and not only you but some other Expositors that have of late taken upon them to make their Revelations of the Revelation Mr. Brightman c. rendring the said words as you do viz. that the whole World shall run after the Beast meaning the Pope and his Idolatrous Worship cannot be good much what like unto that which hath been gathered falsely from this Book of the Revelation viz. that the People are they that must pull down Antichrist whilst Kings espouse his cause than which nothing can be more effectual and direct saith Dr. Hammond towards the raising and fomenting of Commotions in the World which is certainly contrary to the Doctrine of the Gospel But let me now here demand of all those that have been of your mind what is all this to your purpose surely nothing Yet if it were so as you seem to say that there shall be a general Defection or falling away to Romish Idolatry so that all Nations and People in the World shall run after the Beast will it necessarily follow that God from everlasting decreed that not above one in a Million of Millions shall ever be saved Cannot a true faith be wrought in the Hearts of Idolatrous People before they depart out of this World is any thing too hard for God It is no novelty for the Spirit of God to work such a Conversion secretly suddenly in a way unknown to the World and to deliver People at the very last moment of their Lives out of the Snare of Satan as Brands pluckt out of the Burning And do not you tell us even the very same thing in the 29. Page of your Book that Jesus Christ will save those that have truly Repented though even at the last Period of their Lives Such gracious Acts of Gods infinite Goodness have been done upon those that seemed to be as Castaways in the Eye of the World and doubtless may be done again Gods Arm is not shortned nor his Bowels less yearning towards his poor Creatures that are ready to perish in their Sins through the malice of Hell which hath originally brought them into that wretched Condition But of these things enough hath been written in the aforesaid Antidote no need therefore here to write of them again As for that which is here added about the number of the Elect in comparison of those that are called enough also hath been said thereof in the Antidote aforesaid These are the Scripture-Evidences which the Reflector hath produced to maintain the dreadful Doctrine of a general Damnation All which the wise and pious Reader will now see