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A96406 The voice of wisdome, uttered forth against antichrists folly and deceits, and the freeness of Gods love to the creature, and the effects of his righteousnesse in his people truly discovered. ... and this is in answer to a book, falsly titled The Quakers folly made manifest to all men. Given forth by Tho. Danson, a priest at Sandwich in Kent ... / By a friend to them that regard true instruction, and a witness of Christs righteousnesse, George Whitehead. Whitehead, George, 1636?-1723. 1659 (1659) Wing W1972; ESTC R186533 21,823 56

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is perfect and the Apostles preached perfection and wisdom among them that were perfect and preached to present every man perfect and said be Perfect be of one minde see Matth 5 48 1 Cor 2 6 2 Cor 13 11 Colos 1 28 And Paul denyed not the State of the Resurrection as this Priest hath accused him for he said if ye be risen with Christ minde those things which are above And Paul denyed not freedome from sin as he hath accused him for Paul said Now being made free from sin and become the servants to God Rom 6 18 22 And in that Phil 3 15 he saith Let us therefore as many as be perfect be thus minded And that of Job 9 20 21 proves not that Job was not without fin when God had delivered him out of that Affliction wherein he said If I say I am perfect my mouth shall prove me perverse though I were perfect yet would I not know my soul I would despise my life But after this Job was Girded up in the power of God and his Righteousness and Innocency did shine with the Lord and he was perfect and feared God And the Saints witnessed Christs appearance in them without fin unto Salvation for they were saved from sin by Christ and John speaking of Christ said as he is so are we in this world 1 Joh. 4 17 So they did not put cleansing from sin nor perfection a farre off as these Priests do who are Ignorant of that birth which is born of God which whosoever is born of sinneth not neither can the wicked one touch him so then he hath not power to lead him into sin because he is born of God and is kept by the power of God 1 Joh 3 9 chap 5 18 which before that state of freedom be witnessed there is a time of Pain in travel and of suffering in Temptations and Tryals which these blinde Guides not seeing would lay sin to the charge of Gods Elect who is born of God and hath overcome the wicked one so away with the Priests false meanings which are for sin and Imperfection in this life for they are quite against the Tenour of the Scriptures T. Danson saith p. 12. A Beleevers person with his works are accepted with God though his works be not perfect Answ Here he would have the beleevers like the Priests who sin in the best of their performances as they confess but to confute his error herein I say the beleevers works are wrought in God and God hath wrought all their works in them Isai 26.12 So these works of God which true beleevers witness are perfect and the beleevers have ceased from their own works which were imperfect and are come into Gods works which are perfect Thomas Danson saith p. 13. Let me hear what answer you can give to that Scripture which hath run much in my minde against this Doctrine There is not a just man upon earth that doth good and sinneth not Eccles 7.20 We say indeed that no such just man as Solomon speaks of is to be found on earth but in heaven Answ The Conversation of the Saints is in Heaven Eph. 2.6 Phil. 3.20 and they are redeemed from the earth and from the vanity where Solomon saw all things in the dayes of his vanity in which state all were sinners and there is a just man that perisheth in his righteousness Eccles 7.15 but there is a just man that walketh in his Integrity Prov. 20.7 And he that doth righteousness is righteous even as Christ is righteous 1 John 3.7 Thomas Danson We are one body with them in Heaven and have the same title with them in possession p. 14. and 38. Answ This confutes his former words for they that are one body with them in Heaven are Members of the body of Christ which is perfect and its members compleat Col. 2.10 Eph. 3.15 to the end III. Concerning Justification WHereas S. Fisher spoke of our good Works as they are wrought in the Spirit being a meritorious or deserving cause of Justification this Priest hath made much adoe about it to prove that S. F. is a rank Papist and to prove it he the Priest saith Our good works are but imperfectly good and Isai 64.6 All our righteousnesses are as filthy rags Answ Samuel Fisher never affirmed that imperfect works and the righteousness which is as filthy rags doe deserve Justification as this Priest hath wronged him and the truth but good works which are the fulfilling of the Law which is wrought in us by Christ as he hath wrought all our works in us and all his works are perfect these are discerning Justification for they are justified as being ordained of God Ephes 2.10 and seest thou how Faith wrought with his works and by works was Faith made perfect Jam. 2.22 And this Priest hath in page 15. confessed That good works which are the fulfilling of the Law deserve salvation and that the desert of obedience arises from the dignity of the Subject by which it is performed So then this makes for what S. F. declared for here it appears then that obedience to God is deserving and upon true obedience there is promises given And further I say that without the Spirit and power of Christ to lead the creature there is no obedience that can be performed either deserving or acceptable to the Lord God so that still these works which are deserving a promise of God are the works of Christ Jesus in us and through us so his spirit and power which is the cause of these works is that which justifieth in them And page 16. Where Justification within by the Spirit of God was proved by 1 Cor. 6.11 And such were some of you but ye are washed but ye are sanctified but ye are justified in the Name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God To this the Priest hath given his meanings to prove that we are not justified by the Spirit or righteousness of Christ within in these words Viz. Priest I might say that perhaps the clause should be referred to sanctification as if the order of the words had been but ye are sanctified by the Spirit of our God and he brings his transposition for it from Mat. 7.6 Give not that which is holy to dogs neither cast your pearls before swine least they trample them under their feet and turn again and rent you where saith he turn again and rent you is to be joyned to the dogs or else justified by the Spirit may be meant of the Spirits application I mean the third Person in the Trinity not of the work of grace whereof we are the subject Answ Here you may see how he hath given two meanings to one place and what folly hath proceeded from a Teacher as in his instancing Doggs and Swine for his matter of Justification as he did at the dispute with us speaking of Justification being Referred to the name of the Lord not to the spirit from
the 1 Cor 6 11 as his instancing the Dogs returning to Rent not the Swine when as the Swine are not onely known to trample under foot but also to rent and tear and here he would divide the spirit of God from the name of Jesus when as his name and spirit are one his name is called the word of God and the Father the Word and the Spirit are one Rev 19 13 1 Joh 5 7 And where doth he prove that Justified by the Spirit which he ignorantly calls the third Person in the Trinity is not the work of Grace here he would divide the Grace of God from the Spirit was there ever such confusion for the Saints were Justified freely by his Grace which was one with the Spirit Priest pag 16. For the Apostle assents the holinesse of mans nature as a work of the Spirit conforming it to the Law to be the meritorious cause of our freedome from sin Answ And yet he hath denyed Good works of obedience to be a deserving cause of Justification see his confusion what is not Justification a freedome from sin See Act 13 39 And where doth he prove that the holinesse of mans nature is a meritorious cause of freedome from sin seeing it is the same Spirit which frees man from sinne and brings him and his nature into conformity to the Law of Righteousnesse through its Sanctifying and Justifying him from the transgression of the Law Thomas Danson saith pag. 17. from Rom. 8.4 5. It imports the end for which God sent Christ that the righteousness of the Law might be fulfilled in us not in our own persons but in Christ his righteousnesse Imputed to us as if it had been inherent in our selves Answ Here again he hath perverted the Scripture by his false meaning as if the Apostle had meant quite another thing then he spoke when as if the Apostle had not meant the Righteousnesse of the Law fulfilled in their own persons he would not have said fulfilled in us neither would he have counted Christs righteousness Inherent in themselves if he had not counted it in them as this Priest doth and the Apostle needed not speak of the Righteousness of the Law being to be fulfilled in Christ as if it had not been fulfilled in Christ but that it might be fulfilled in us who walk not after the flesh but after the spirit Rom. 8.4 so away with these false meanings this Priest hath given And to S. Fishers speaking of degrees among believers as in 1 Joh. 2.13 14. This Priest Danson saith I suppose that you mean that some of these have a mixture of sin with their Grace Answ This is a false supposition for the Grace of God which the Saints have is pure and not mixed with sin for the mixture of sin is in that which goeth from the Grace Thomas Danson saith pag. 18. to S. F. you maintained that our Justification was by personal fulfilling of the Law and now you Grant some persons to be Justified who never did fulfil it personally Answ In both these sentences he hath wronged S. Fisher for that which he vindicated was what the Apostle witnessed that was the Righteousness of the Law being fulfilled by the spirit in the persons of believers without which work of the spirit in them they were not Justified Thomas Danson pag. 19. saith And Conscience in the Saints being but in part cleansed as a witnesse it testifies falsehood to them also in that their estate is bad when it is good Answ See the folly and confusion this man is in who would lay fals-hood and badnesse to the charge of the Saints Consciences and their good estate as one that calls good evil Isa 5.20 but the Consciences of the Saints witnessed truth to them and not falshood for they witnessed Sanctification throughout in body soul and spirit 1 Thess 5.23 and holinesse perfected in the fear of God Thomas Danson saith pag. 21. As Christ was made sin for us so are we the Righteousnesse of God in him but the former was by Imputation not Inherence and therefore so the other Answ This proves nothing against being Justified by Christs Righteousnesse within but rather against him that hath perverted that Scripture 2 Cor 5 21 for if our being made the Righteousnesse of God in Christ be but like Christs being made sinne for us as this Priest Imagins then he might as well say that we shall have no Righteousness of Christ in us neither must we do Righteousnesse at all for Christ was made sin for us who knew no sin neither can he sin that we might be made the Righteousnesse of God in him in whom their is no sin so that men are not made the Righteousnesse of God in Christ while in their sinnes but as they are translated into Christ through death being baptized into the death of Christ by putting off the body of the sinnes of the flesh for Gods Righteousnesse is pure without sin and so are the believers made his Righteousnesse See Rom 6 4 5 6 7 Col 2 11 12 1 Joh 3 5 6. Priest And to prove two Righteousnesses of Christ this said Priest saith do you think that the Righteousnesse which the Apostle calls his own was not Christs Answ See this mans ignorance of Christ's Righteousnesse which the Apostle desired to have and not his owne Phil 3 9 Now he that counts the Apostles own Righteousnesse which he denyed to have Christs Righteousness he might as well say that the Apostle desired not to have Christ's Righteousnesse which is but one but herein his folly is discovered And whereas at our dispute Thomas Danson denyed that the Saints were Justified by that Christ that was in them now to excuse his matter he saith he will Answer me more punctually and his Answer is Priest pag. 22. The Scripture by Christ within us understands not the person of Christ but his operations the cause is put for the effect by a Metynomy Compare Collos 1.26 Christ in you with Ephes 3.17 that Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith and therefore it followes not that we make two Christs Answ To deny that the Saints were Justified by that Christ within is to Preach two Christs seeing he hath owned that Christ is in them And to say that the Scripture by Christ within us understands his operations what darknesse is this where did ever the Apostle say that the operations or works of Christ are Christ or put a Metonymy upon his words as thou hast done who falsly hast called that a word too hard for my Capacity And Faith Repentance Regeneration are opperated or wrought by Christ but doth the Scripture say that Repentance is Christ or Regeneration is Christ this Priest hath made it appear that he neither rightly knowes Christ nor his workes who discernes not the one from the other And again he hath confuted himself the Priest in pag. 23. he saith The Scripture speaks of two Christs Christ Personal and Christ
thou in me that they may be made perfect in one see John 17.17 21 22 23 and the Apostle witnessed to a sanctification throughout in body soul and spirit 2 Cor. 7 1 1 Thes 5 23 and Christ is come throughly to purge the floor so that his work of Sanctification is not imperfect as this Priest hath falsely affirmed but perfect Priest Not every gift of God is perfect page 44 Ans Here hath the Spirit of Antichrist appeared which hath not only accused the Saints and the work of Christ with imperfection in this life but hath so accused some gift of God with not being perfect when as every good and perfect gift comes from God Jam. 1.17 Then what gift of God is it that he esteems not perfect Pr. The Gospel gives life upon imperfect obedience Answ And yet before he denyed our good works of obedience to be a deserving cause of Justification when now were his words owned for truth then imperfect obedience is so farre deserving that the Gospel gives life upon it where 's the ranck Papist now but here also he is in Errour for the Gospel gives life upon believing in the light which is the work of God and the work of God is perfect saith Christ He that believeth in me though he were dead yet shall he live Pr. To prove Tho. Rumseys false doctrin which was That we preach a doctrine of Devils in saying that men may be free from sin in this life this Priest saith David was not free from the being of sinne but a sad instance of the power of it in real Saints and yet he was a pattern to New-Testament Saints Zech. 12.8 Answ That Scripture Zechariah 12.8 doth prove both Tho. Rumseys and Thomas Dansons doctrines false for the words of that Scripture are these In that day shall the Lord defend the Inhabitants of Jerusalem and he that is feeble among them at that day shall be as David and the house of David shall be as God as the Angel of the Lord before them So then if David was made a pattern to New Testament-Saints and the house of David be as God yea as the Angel of the Lord then was David and the New-Testament Saints freed from sin for in God is no sin and then real Saints had not the power of sin remaining in them as Tho. Rumsey and Tho. Danson hath accused them to their own shame in counting that a Doctrine of Devils which was the Saints Doctrine who witnessed a washing from all filthiness Ezek. 36.25 And Paul witnessed to a freedom from sin Rom. 6.18 22. and for calling this Doctrine a doctrine of devils God will call Tho. Rumsey and Tho. Danson to an account and they will never be clear from the guilt of their blasphemy herein without Repentance and I beleeve that all people that fear the Lord that see this will see their doctrine to be a doctrine of Devils in their pleading for sin and counting that to be a doctrine of Devils which they that were of God owned and which all must come to witness who ever come to be saved for there is no unclean thing must enter into Christs Kingdom therefore people must either expect freedom from sin in this life or never for it was the unbeleevers that died in their sins John 8.21.24 and there is no hope in the grave but as the tree falls so it lyes and every one shall be rewarded according to their deeds done in the body and the soul that sinneth it shall die but blessed are the dead that die in the Lord for their works shall follow them and they that die in Christ die in him in whom there is no sin And now Tho. Danson whereas thou hast made much ado in thy lying Narrative about a man that accused a Minister for saying that Sam. Fisher had received a Pension from the Pope at Rome and thy cavil is about the mans being mistaken concerning the Minister To which I say if thou wert not a man that rejoycest in iniquity thou wouldst never have so far rejoyced in that mans weakness as to publish that thing again since the man confessed his mistake and weakness in laying it upon the wrong party which if thou wouldst as well confess thy Errors as he did his there were the better hope of thee that thou wouldst forsake thy errors and lies and thine and thy hearers lightness and prophaneness was plainly then made appear to your shame And whereas thou confessest That it was the Minister of Staple Viz. Mr. Robert Wilkinson as thou callest him that so accused Samuel Fisher behinde his back with receiving a Pension from the Pope and thou goest about to maintain this accusation against Samuel Fisher in thy saying it s as probably true c. Now that accusation against Sam. Fisher do I return back again upon thee and that Priest of Staple as an invented lye and a slander of your own and God will judge you for it and Samuel Fisher and all who know his innocency and freedome from having any fellowship with the Pope or his corrupt ways may witness against thee and the Priest of Staple to be lyers and slanderers in this thing mentioned so to be in the work of your Father the Devil And here it is evident thou hast shot in the Devils bow as I told thee before according to thy own words and in the latter end of thy matter thou tellest a Story to move the Reader to laughter as thou sayest yea thou hast largely manifested thy folly and thy light spirit who would move people to madness Eccles 2.2 And that thou art one of the false Prophets who by their lyes and lightness made the people light and vain and where thou hast several times spoken to us as if we were put to silence or our mouths stopt at the dispute with thee it appears herein thou wouldst make people beleeve as if thou put us to silence with thy Arguments but thou mayest remember it was otherwise for several times when I or Richard Hubberthorn should have spoken the Magistrates and others of thy hearers made such a howling and a hideous noise whose iniquities thou partookst of in joyning in thy lightness with them that we could not be heard speak and other times with thy lightness thou stirred up lightness in them and at the first days dispute with thee when I began to answer thee after Sam. Fisher had spoken to thee thou offeredst to go away several times because I spoke And at the latter days dispute when thou wast ensnared whilst I spoke to thee some of the Magistrates threatned to break up the meeting if I would not lay down the Dispute and let another take it Priest And whereas thou accusest Samuel Fisher with being silent and thereupon interpretest his silence to be consent to the horrid Arrian blasphemy Answ The same false accusing Spirit in this Priest would have accused Christ with being guilty of blasphemy when he was silent