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A04582 A supplicatyon made by Robert Barnes doctoure in diuinitie, vnto the most excellent and redoubted prince kinge henrye the eyght. The articles for which this forsayde doctoure Barnes was condemned of our spiritualtye, are confirmed by the Scripture, doctoures and their awne [sic] lawe. After that he disputeth certayne comon places which also he confermeth with the Scripture, holye doctoures and their awne [sic] lawe Barnes, Robert, 1495-1540. 1531 (1531) STC 1470; ESTC S110416 207,398 340

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hathe alonly dyed for vs. The lambe hathe alonly shed his bloude for vs. The lambe hath alonly redemyd vs. These thinges hath he done alone Nowe if these be suffycyent / than hath he alone made satysfaccion / ād is allonly worthy to opyn the boke Moreouer / Thys tytyll ys geuen to the lambe by them that be in heuyn / and how dare you beyng but stynkynge caryon geue it eyther in parte or in hole to any other Also they that be in heuyn confesse that thys lābe ys allonly worthy to redeme them / be youre workes better thā they Or can youre workis helpe them yf they can / than ys not the lambe alonly worthy to redeme them / yf youre workys doo not helpe rhē than are they alonly Iustyfyde be the lambe / and yf they be / why shall not we also Moreouer the seniours falle doune by fore the lambe / geuinge him allōly praise / And shal youre good workys stonde vpe by the lambe / than be they better than the senyours But let vs proue this thing by opyn scripturs / That no mā shal be able too denye yt Saynt Paul toke so greate labours to proue thys artykyll / as he neuer toke in no nother / and all bycause he wolde make yt playne / and stope the mouthys off the agayne sayers / But all thys wyll not helpe thē / that haue not the sprete of god / Neuer the lesse we wyll by godes fauour / do the best we can too confounde the croked enymys of Christes bloude / ād though we can not make them hys frendes / at the lest we wylle so handylle them / that they shall be a shamyd openly to speake agenste hym / as they haue done longe tyme / And soo wyll we handylle them by godes helpe that all the worlde shall knowe that they glory in Chrystes name and by hym be they also hye promotyd in thys worlde that they can not be hyer yet deserue they of christ / worst or all mē But lett vs go to oure purposse S. paul sayth / All men be synners / and wante the glory of god / but they ar iustifyed frely by hys grace / Ro. 3 thorow the redemcyon that is in christ Iesu Vvhat is this that all mē haue synned ye are iustyfyde frely How shall a sinner do good workys how can he deserne to be iustifyde what call you frely yf there be any deseruyng lesse or more / than is it not frely what call you by his grace yf it be any parte of workes / than it is not of grace / for as S. paul saithe / Than grace were not grace Ro. 11. here can be none euasiō / that wordys be so playne yf you bring in any helpe of workys / than for so muche ys not oure redemption frely / nor yet ys yt of grace / but partly of workys / and than doo yow dystroye all S. paule / and hys holle dysputacyon / for he contendyth agenst workys / ād clearly excludyth workys in Iustyfycacion / and bryngythe in grace only / Now that that ys excludyd in the wholl by contencion / can not be brought in / in parte to the cause Thys ys opyn in hys wordys / where he sayth Vvhere ys nowe thy reioysynge yt ys excluded / By what lawe by the lawe off workys Nay but by the lawe off faythe / we do Iudge and geue sentēce that a man is Iustifyde by faythe wyth out the workys off the lawe / Here yow not / that the gloryacyon off workys ys excludyd / and yet wyll yow bost youre workys Here yow not playnly Saynt Paules sentence / that Iudgeth clearly wyth faythe / and agenst all workys in thys cause / how can yow a voyd this is it not clear Vvhat can yow answere too yt Is not this Paulis proposion that he toke to proue / fayth only iustifythe It were but lost labour for Paule to proue that workes dyd helpe to iustifycacion / for that the iuys dyd graunt In so moche that they gloryed agēst the gētyllis / which had no maner of workes / ād for that dispysed them as peopell vn worthy to be iustifide / but paradvēture you wil make a blynd a damnable evasion / and say that Paule condemneth the workes of the olde lawe / as vnworthy to iustificacion / but not the workes of the newe lawe / are yov now satysfyed in youre conscience Thynke yov that yov haue well asso●yd S. Paules argument thynke you that this ys sufficient to avoyde S. Paule that hathe taken so great labour to proue this cause thynke you that yov shal be thus discharged a fore god yf yov doo / than goo boldly in to the strayte iudgement off god with this euasion / and doute you not but there shalle yov fynde S. Paule as styfly and as strongly agenst yov ād youre newe workes as ever he was agenst the Iuys and their olde workes / and yf he dyd condemne the workes of the lawe / that were institute by the mouth of god / thynke yov that those workes that you haue inuented out of youre idylle brayne shalle be there a lowed Breuely what workes can yov doo / or excogitate that be good whiche be not in the olde law / Ergo he speketh of all maner of workes / for the law includythe all workes that euer god instituted / but lett me stope youre mouthis with S. Paule Doth not he brynge to proue his cause / the example of the great father Abraham / whom no maner off workes culde iustify / but faith only / thynke you that S. Paule dothe speke here of the workes of the olde lawe nay doutles For how coulde Abrahā do the workes of the law / and there was no law geuen .iiij. C. .xxx. yeres after where fore S. paule constrayneth you to conclude that no maner of good workis though they be so good as Abrahams workys can helpe to iustificaciō But yet yov haue a nother evasyon that is of youre glosse / how that S. Paule speketh of cerimonial workys / how they do not Iustifye Glossa Thys distynccyō is but for mad men / and for thē that be not lernyd whyche are glad whane they may avoyd holy scriptur / though it be notyng to purposse but alonly with ydille and vayne wordis I pray yov what nede S. paule to proue that the ceremonials did not iustyfy / was there ever any Iue that lokyd to be iustified by thē Nay doutles For they were not geuyn to Iustificacion where fore what mā wolde thynke that S. Paule except mad mē ād vnlernyd assis wolde take so great labour to proue that thing / that every mā did gravnt / where fore say what you can Here stondith holy S. paule styfly ād strongly for me and agēst yov and saith that we be frely ād alonly Iustifyed by faith with out allemaner of workis Ambro ad Rom. ● But let vs see what youre awne doctours
artykyllis / men wolde geue hym none audience / nor they wolde not here hym / wherefore there were no feare off suche men / for as sone as they open their mouthis to speake agenste any of these / a none we condemne them with out any further iudgemēt wherefore S. Iohā must nedes speake of other craftyar heretikes than these / which graunt all those thinges with many other mo to mās iudgement yee all they doo / they do yt in christes name preache in christes name / do many good workes in christes name / yee paraduentuer al so do miracles in christes name / and yet neuer the lesse vnder the great crafte and subtylty of the deuylle they denye Christ / Is not this a meruelous thinge howe can this be How can they deny christ and also graunt christ how can they preache christ / and yet deny christ But all thys crafte and subtylty vse they in christis name / all by cause they wyll deny Christ / for the more that antichrist preachyth christ / the more wylle he deny hym For whan he hathe once gotte hym auctorite by christes name / than wylle he rage / and waxe secretly mad agenst Christ / and yet wyll he preache Christ / and also deny Christ and so subtylly deny hym / that wyth out we stycke faste to holy scripturs / and haue the spryte of god / we shall not perseue hym / therefore lett vs now proue his sprete / ād we shal sone se that he is not off god But fyrst we must declare / and perfytly know what is christ Not allonly by the name / for that Antichrist graunteth / but we must serche out the properte / and the nature / and the verye effect of christ / and so shall we sone know hym ▪ In holy scripture Christe is nothing elles but a sauiour / a redemer / a iustifyar / and a perfecte peace maker bytwene god ād man Mat. ● 1. Cor. ● Esa 53. This testimonye dyd the angelle geue off hym in these wordes / he shall saue hys people from their synnes / and also S. Paule Christ is made oure ryghtwysnes oure sanctificacion ād oure redempcion / moreouer the prophet wyttnesyth the same saynge / for the wrechidnes of my people haue I strykyn him / so that here haue we christ with his properties / now yf we wil cōfesse that christ is borne in to this world / thā must we graunt with oure hartes that christ is al oure iustice / all oure redempciō / all oure wysdō / all oure holynes / alonly the purcheser of grace / alonly the peace maker / by twene god mā Breuely al goodnes that we haue / that yt is of him / by him / for his sake only And that we haue no nede of nothing but of hym only / we desyer no nother saluacion / nor no nother satisfaccion / nor any helpe of any other creature / other heuynly or erthely but off him onlye / for as s Pe. sayth / there is no nother name geuen vnto men / where in they must be saued Actu 4. Act. 13. And also S. Paule / by him are all that beleue iustifyde from all thynges Moreover S. Iohan witnesseth the same in these wordes he yt is that hathe opteyned grace for oure sinnes and in a nother place ▪ 1. Ioan. 2. 1. Ioan. 4 He sent his sone to make agremēt for oure synnes Now my lordes / here haue you Christ and his very nature fulle and holle / and he that denyethe any thinge / or any parte of these thinges / or take any of them and aplye them or geue the glorye of them to any other person than to Christ only / the same man robythe Christ of his honour / and denieth christe / and ys very antichrist wherefore my lordes / fyrst what say yov vn to this article / vn to these propertis of Christ / yff you graunt yt / thā are we at a poynte for it saith that faythe in Iesus Christ only iustifythe a fore god / secundarilye yff you deny yt as I am suer you wyll for yov had leuer denye youre crede then graunte yt how can yov than a voyde / but that you be the very antichristis / of whom S. Iohan spekyth for now haue we tryed youre spretis that they be not of god / for you deny Christ That is / yov deny the very nature / the properte of Christ you graunte the name / but you deny the vertu you graunte that he dissended from heaven / but you denye the profyte therof / for he descended from heaven for oure helth / thys denye you and yet it ys youre crede you graunt that he was borne / but yov deny the purposse you graunt that he is rysyn from dethe / but yov deny the profyte there of / for he rosse to iustify vs. you graunt that he is a sauiour but yov deny that he is allonly the sauiour I pray yov wherefore was he borne to iustify vs in parte to redeme vs in parte to doo satysfaccion for parte of oure synnes / so that we must haue a nother to make satisfacciō for the other parte Say what yov wyll yf you geue not al / and fully and alonly to one christ / than deny you christ / and the holy gost S. Iohan dothe declare yov to be contrary to christ This may also be proued / by a playne scripture of the holy gost which is this No man in heuyn nor in erthe / neyther vnder the erthe / was abylle to open the boke / or to loke on the boke / tyll the lambe came vn to whom the senyours spake / on this maner Thou arte worthy to take the boke / and to open the selys ther of for thou wast kylled haste redemed vs by thy bloud How say yov to thys my lordis In heuen was there none founde / neyther by the angyllis / nor yet by the senyours / worthy to open the boke but christ only / and will you fynd that they coulde not fynd wyl you sett an helper to christ / whome they sett a lone but I praye you tell vs what he shall be All the worlde knowethe that they be good workes / but now from whēce come youre good workes whether from heuen / or out of the erthe / or from vnder the erthe yf they were in any of these places / where were they whan the Angells and the senyers sought them haue you found them whome they could not fynd but let this passe I praye you what wylle you lay for youre good workes or by what tytell wyll yov bring them in to Ioyne them with the lambe in openyng off the boke The senyours haue layd for them that the lambe alonly was worthy to open the boke by cause he was slayne / and redemed them with his precious bloud Now what cause lay yov for youre good workes The lambe
haue / that be agenst his holy verite / but let vs graunt that that translacion was so false / why did not yov there take a pone yov opynly for to amend it and to sett forthe truly the holy testament of christ yov must nedes graunt that there is an holy testamēt of his in erthe except yov wille deny christ as I dought not but that yov wille in effect where is it whye haue we it not If that wer not it / whye do not yov sett the very trew testament out / yov were reddy to cōdemne an other mans faithefulle labor ād diligence / but yov had no cheryte to amend it / yov thynke alle ways to disseue the worlde with youre holy hypocrysy / men be not so blynd but that they cane welle Iudge / If yov hade condemnyd that testament allonly by cause off errours / yet at the lest ways yov shulde bothe of cheryte / and also of dutye haue set forthe the trew texte / and than wolde men haue thought / that yov condemned the other by the resō of errours But men may now euydently se that yov dyd not condemne it for errours sakes / for how shulde they iudge erroures that be soo vnlernyd but alonly by cause that the verite was ther in / the which yov coulde not abyde that men shulde knowe / and that dyd the processe of youre sermon and also youre tyranny that dothe folow wel proue / but mi lord I say to yov / ād to all youres if yov do not amend it shalle be to youre euerlastyng damnacyon / for god wille not take thys rebuke at youre honde / Esa 62. remember that he hathe sworne by the movght of his prophete hy his ryght honde ād by the might of his strengthe that he wille defende this cause / Be not these lordly wordes / of the eternalle god / thinke yov to make hym for sworne Heb. 10. Remember how the holygost thretyneth yov in another place saynge / yf a man dyd dysspysse the lawe of Moses / he must with out any mercy dye / howe muche more are they worthy of ponishement / that do trede the sone of God vndernethe their fete / and dyspise the bloud of hys testament / how thynke yov ys not this opynly agenst yov / That cōdemne not alonly christ but also his blessed worde / and alle that longythe to hym / Take a way christes word / and what remanythe bi hynd of chryst nothyng at alle I pray yov my lorde to whome was thys worde fyrst preched to whome was it writtyn allonly to prystes not vn to lay men ye was it not writtyn to alle the worlde yes truly / where by wille yov conuerte a turke or an infidelle / not by holy scripture whan they be conuerted / what wille yov lerne thē what wille yov geue them to rede / any other thyng than holy scripture I thynke nay Now wille yov make youre awne cūtrymen / youre awne citysins youre awne subiectes yee youre awne brethern / redemed wyth christes blessed bloud worsse them Iuys / and infidelles But their is no reson nor no bretherhod / nor no chrysten cheryte that cane moue yov / or that cane helpe yov / for yov are so blynded and so obstinate agenste chryst / that yov had rather alle the worlde shulde peryshe / thane his doctryne shulde be brought to lyghte / but I do promisse yov / if god do spare me lyffe / ād geue me grace / I shalle so set it out / if yov do not revoke it that it shalle be to youre vtter s●ame and confusyon / fynde the best remedy that yov cane / I do beleue stedfastly / that god is myghttyar than yov / and I doo rekkyn and faytheffully beleue / that yov are ten tymys worsse thane the grette Turke for he regardeth no more / But rule dominyon in this world And yov are not there with content / but yov wille also rule ouer mens consyens yee ād oppresse christ and his holy word / and blaspheme and condemne hys worde / was it not a holy covnselle / of the chanseler of london to conselle a sertyn merchāt / to by Robyn hoode for his seruātes to rede what shulde they do with vitas patrȳ / and with bokes of holy scriptur Also the same Chanseler sayed to an other mā / what fyndest thou in the gospel but a story what good canst thou take there out O lorde god where arte thou why slepist thou why sufferst thou this blasphemy Thov hast defēded thy prophetes with wilde fier frō heuē / And wylte thov suffer thy wonly sone and thy heuynly worde / thus to be dyspysyd and to be rekenyd but as a story of Robyn hoode Rysse vpe good loorde / Rysse vpe / thy enemys do preuaylle / Thy enymys do multiplye / shewe thy power / defend thy glory It is thy con●umely and not oures what haue we to do with it but alonly to thy glory venge this cau●e or thy enymys shalle rekkyn yt not to be thy cause / O thou eternalle God though oure synnes haue deseruyd thys / yet loke on thy name / yet loke on thy veryte / Se howe thov arte mockkyd Se how thou arte blasphemid / ye and that by them / that haue takyn on thē to defend thy glory / But now heuynly father / Seynge that thou haste / so suffered it / yet for the glory of thy name / geue some man strengthe to defend it / or els shalt thou be clearly takyn out of the hartes off allemen where fore most gracious lorde / of thy mercy and grace I besech the / That I may haue the strengthe to defend thy godly worde to thy glory and honour / and to the vtter confusyon of thy mortalle enymys / helpe good lord helpe / and I shalle not fere a thovsand of thyne enymys / In thy name wille I begyn to defend thys cause Fyrst commyth thy faythfulle seruant Moses / trewe and Iuste in alle thy workes / and he commandythe faythefully and trewly / and with grett thretnynges that man / woman and chylde shuld dilygently rede thy holy worde / Sayng / Sett youre hartes on alle my wordes the whych that I do testyfye vn to you thys day / That yov may commāde them vn to yovre chyldern / to kepe / to doo / and to fulfylle alle thynges that be wryttyn in the boke of thys lawe / Marke howe he commaūded them / to lerne their chyldern alle thynges that be wryttyn in thys boke / Deu. 32. and so to lerne them that they myght kepe and fulfylle alle thynges that were wryttyn in the boke / Moses ma●e nothyng of secretnes / and wille yov make secretes ther in how shalle men fulfille those wordes that they know not how cane men know the very trewway of god and haue not the worde of god is not alle oure knowlege ther in The prophete saith / thy
they to helpe them we ought not to depose a kinge though he be wyked How dare they be so bolde / as to depose a kyng / whyche is ordenyd of god / yee and by hys holy worde / hauyng none example / nor scripture for thē Be they aboue god and hys blessyd worde But they wyl saye / that the kyng was a wyked man / I answere / the cronycles / geue contrary wytnes / how that he was a very good man / ād ryght symple and by cause he was so symple / therfore Pipinus whyche had all the rule vnder hym / thought hym silfe better worthy to rule than the kynge / and so wrote vn to the pope and desyred hym to geue sentence / whether he was better worthy to be kyng that had all the paynes and labours / or he that had no laboure Now the pope / to make Pipinum his frende / gaue sentēce wyth hym / and deposed the other and made hym a monke Thys can I welle proue by good cronycles Now lett youre noble grace consyder / yff yt were ryght / not only to depose such a kinge but also to make hym a monke Thys haue they done wyth other noble kynges / and no doute / but that same or worse / wyll they attempte to doo vn to youre grace / yff you dysplease them / and at the leste they wyll doo their vtter most Lett all the hole rable off thē / tell youre grace / when a trewe preacher off chrystes gospell dyd suche a deade There is no officer that hathe nede to be a frayde off Chrystis gospell / nor yet of the preachers ther off / For they wyll geue them auctoryte tēporalle / But off these preuy traytours / can no man be to ware you may se by experience / how in a maner by their preuy treason they haue gotten in to their handes / halfe youre royalme But lett vs graunt thē / that the kynge was a wyckyd mā The scripture commaundeth vs / to obey to wyckyd princes / and geuyth vs none auctorite to depose thē / who was more wycked than Herode / and yet S. Iohan sufferyd deethe vnder hym who was wyckedder than Pylate And yet Christ did not put him doune but was crucified vnder hym Breuely whyche off all the princes were good in the appostles dayes and yet they deposed none So that gods worde / and the practyse off oure Master Chryst / and hys holy apostles are openly agenste them More over their owne glosse sayeth that he was not deposed / by cause he was vnsuffycient / but by cause he was wanton and lecherous wyth wemen O my lordes yff you be not afrayde of the vengeaunce of god / at the leste take a lyttle shame of the worlde vn to yov / that haue so longe tyme wyth so great tyrannye defendyd these lawes that be so opynlye agēst gods ordinaunce / agenst gods worde / and agenst the commen ordynaunce and consent of all the worlde And this thynge haue yov done / to the greate iniury off noble princes / to the intollerable subduynge off all noble bloude / to the oppressyon off their trew subiectes / to the dystruccyon off alle commen welthes And fynalle to the damnacion off many a Chrystened soule Tell me by youre faithe / doo you beleue that there is a lyuyng god / that ys myghtye to punysh hys enymyes yf yov beleue yt / saye vn to me can yov deuyse for to avoyde hys vengeaunce / whyche be so opynly cōtrayrye to hys worde what answere thinke yov to make to hym Thinke yov that he will suffer youre worde to be harde / lette hys godly worde be dyspysed Thynke yov that yt will be suffycient for yov to saye / that they be the lawes of holy churche Thynke you that he will be thus taught off yov Than were yt tyme to plucke hym downe / ād sett you vpp Naye my lordes he ys no chylde / nor you shalle fynd yt no chyldis game / thus to tryfle playe with hys holy word and hys blessyd ordinaunce / ye and that to the dyspysyng / of the maker bothe of heuyn and erthe Saye what yov wyll / ye are not able neyther by crafte / nor subtyltye and yet be you falce ynough to defende thys matter / neyther a fore god / nor yet afore oure noble prince / nor a fore any mā off lernyng that wyll be trewe to hys prince for whiche waye so ever you turne you / oure Master Christ / and all hys blessyd apostles be agenst you / and will openlye accuse you / that yov be contrarye to their worde / and to their dede Answere ye to them / answere not to me yff I holde my peace / they wyll speake Nor yt will helpe you but lyttle / to crye after youre olde maner heresy / heresy / a Traytour / a traytour for now you crye agēst youre selves / and off those thinges they doo accuse you Doo yov thinke yt with the ordinaunce of god / that you shall depose a kinge by cause he lyuyth in advoutrye / or ys a lecherous man If you thynke yt a lawfull cause / why doo you not preache yt opynly why doo you not laye yt to kingis charges why suffer you them to be kingis that lyue in aduouttry why do you not put youre lawes in execution you saye they be the lawes of holy churche / and there by may you depose princes But yff you will put them in execucion / than were yt moche better / to be a bysshop or a preaste / than to be a kinge / or a duke For you maye lyue in whordom / or in any other vngracious lyuyng / ye and that to the destruccyon off many mens soules / and yet no man so hardye to repreue you / as youre awne lawe dothe openlye commaunde in these wordes Di. 40. Si papa Iff the pope doo drawe wyth hym innumerable people on a hepe to the deuyll of helle / there to be ponyshed for euer / yet shall no mortalle man presume / to repreue hys synnes / for he muste iugde alle men / and may be iudged off no mā c̄ Lykewyse haue you an other lawe in your decretales / that no laye man maye repreue a preate c̄ How thinke yov by these lawys / De. here Cū exiniuncto et sicut in yff they be not off the deuylle / telle me what ys off the deuyll you wyll bothe repreue / yee and also depose princes / but yov wyll neyther be deposed / ner yet repreued off any mortall man what thynke you youre selues godes But how can you depose a kyng / and yt lyeth not in youre powre to make a kyng / For eyther he ys borne a kyng / or he cometh to yt by elecciō / or he wynnethe yt victoriously by swerde which way so euer he cometh by yt / you can not make hym And wyll you depose hym for fornicacion / how wolde
to defend the churche from yov For more contrary than yov be / can no man be But the very truth ys / that yov doo intende to make the kyngis grace but youre hangeman thys is a shamfull name for a prynce but the shame be vn to you that are not ashamyd / to geue hym the very offyce off this name / yee and by cause you will doo nothyng but shamfullye also to mock hym / with a glorious title For you make hym but a mynister of youre myschevous tyrannye so that so oftyn as yov haue condemned any man / agenst ryght and agenst godes law / for an heretyke so oftyn must he come and receyve thys man off youre hande for yov saye wyth the Iewes / that yov maye kylle no man and so put hym to dethe / and not once denye yt / nor yet aske yov what he hath done to deserue dethe / for yov are readye to answere hym / and saye as the Iewes did If he were not an evell doar we wolde not commytt hym to youre hondes More getteth he not of you / for you be spretualle men and may kylle no man / but he is bound to doo yt by youre lawe / vnder the payne of losyng his royalme So that he is bound / to crucifye chryst so oftyn as you crye Crucifige / Crucifige Lett euery Christen prynce consyder in hys conscience / whether that the Iewes dyd not procede even on thys maner agenst Christ or no / yee that was more indyfferent than thys ys / for there Pylate was iudge / and here be they Iudgis / and princes be but seruauntes But I pray yov my lordes / where haue yov gotten thys auctorite ouer princes / to cōpelle them to swere to yov in ony cause / what and if the kynge wolde be an infidell / wolde yov expel hym what can you do more bi right than lay the worde of god to him / ād the daunger of hys infydelite yov haue no auctorite to deposse hym / for Christenyd men must obey to vnfaythefulle princes / did not Christ this did not Peter thys did not Paule thys dothe not the worde of god commaunde yov thys to do saynge 1. Petri. 2 Fere God / honour youre kynge / be subiect not allonly vn to them that be good and easy / but vn to them that be evell Vvhat saye yov to these wordes how can you avoyde them how can yov auoyd the vengeaunce of god But now if yt pleasse youre grace / they wille laye to my charge / that I speke agenst the preuileges of holy churche / I will infringe the lybertyes of holy churche I answere I know no lybertyes nor preuyleges that holy churche hathe / but these that Christ hathe lefte here / Is thys libertye in his worde to do agenst christes holy worde and ordinaunce / and to folowe mens dremes Is Christes holye worde / of so lytle effecte why dyd not Christ than geue this lyberte in his worde to holy churche Did he leue that to yov to do Shewe youre commission Call yov thys a preuilege / to be agenst youre naturall prynce of the royalme / and to make him subiect vn to yov which haue no tytle of preheminence / but alonly of tyranny Than hathe holy churche gottyn a goodlye lyberte But what meane yov whan yov say / holy churche yf yow meane youre selues onlye / than the kynges grace is muche bound vn to yov / that yov do exclude his grace and al his commens out of holy churche / in to the whyche Christ hathe bought them with his most precious bloude And if yov vnderstond by holy churche the wholle congregacion / than are all Chrystenyd men ād alle there godes exemptyd from the kynges grace and vndernethe yov / So that bi this meanys yov wil make his grace a kynge with out a royalme / and he shal haue the name / and yov shal haue the auctoryte and the foolke But is thys Christes churche Is thys holy churche that is so contrary to the lorde of all holynes who hathe made her so holye why dyd she not clayme this liberte / in christes and his holy apostles dayes But now my lordis oure moste noble and gracious prynce commaundeth yov to answere / and to defende youre awne lawes / to defende youre libertyes / and to laye for yov by what tytle you do vsurpe his graces power / seynge that yow be but his subiectis He wille know by what auctorite yov do kepe any Courtes / or do execute any commaundementes with in his royalme what auctoryte yov haue to prove testamentes / and to take of euery pound a sertyn and to geue letters of mynystracion / ouer those godes / that yov neuer laboured for Vvhat tytle haue you there to The mā was not youre subiect / and how come yov by the mynistracion of his goodes Also what auctorite haue you to defende youre temporall goodes with bothe swerdes as yt is wrytten in youre lawe 15 q. 6 Au●toritatē 15. q. 6. Auctoritatem This is more than the kynges grace can doo / for he hathe but one swerde / and will you haue bothe But what auctoryte haue you to punysh them that stryke preastes And them that be bacbyters / and sclanderers Furthermore by what auctorite de you cōmaund / that preastes shal not appere before temporall iudges 23. q. 8 Cōvenior 33 q. 2. Inter hec As yt ys wrytten in youre lawe 23. q. 8. Conuenior in the glosse Also in a nother place 33. q. 2. Inter hec Also by what auctorite / haue yov made that princes shal make no statute as concernynge the goods of the church 23 q. 8 Conuenior in the glosse 23 q. 8 Cōvenior But yff ony thinge shal be geuyn vn to you / than the Emperoure and kinges haue sufficient power / but yff you shall paye any thynge to the mayntaynynge of the kynges grace and hys commen welthe / than no man hathe auctoryte wyth out youre consent Haue you not wytched the world this longe tyme But forthermore / the kyngis grace wolde knowe / by what auctorite you haue made that a preast shall not be sued afore a temporall iudge for whoredom These be the wordes of youre lawe Di. 28. c. Cōsulen●m But vn to you that be laye men / is lef●e no power for to iudge off preastes / nor yet to serche ony thyng of their liuing c̄ My lordes maye no man iudge / of youre lyuyng but youre selues a lone not the kynges grace / who hathe geuyn yov this exempcyon who hathe geuyn you power to be iudges over bawdrie Is bawdrye a spirituall cause / Dothe bawdrye belonge to spyrituall men S. paul calleth yt the worke of the fleshe Gala. 5. and will you call yt a spirituall cause It may well be spyrytuall of youre spryte / but I am suer it is agenste the sprete of god But by thys meanys haue you
asoyled a greate doubte whereat the kynges grace and all hys noble lordes haue often mused That ys / how yt came that there was so grea● wherdome and bawdrye / amonge them that b● called spirituall men But now yt ys no wonder / for bawdry ys a spirituall cause and belongeth onlye to the iudgement of bysshops But shortly to oure purpose / The kyngis hyghnes commaūdeth yow straytely / to shewe hym by what auctoryte that you take causes out of his hye Court of complaynte / and to brynge them a fore yow / As who shulde saye yow wolde redresse bothe the Kynges lawe / and also the sentēce there of And not alonly that / but you wyll Master the Kynges grace and his lawe Shortlye to recyte all the iniuryes and wrongys that you doo to the Kyngys hyghnes / to all hys noble bloude and vnto all his trewe subiectis / yt were to longe a processe wherefore breuely I require you by the faith that you owe to christe Iesus / and by the othe that you haue made to the Kinges highnes if you be not dispēsed with all that you āswere to these thinges you can not denye but these thinges you do / wherefore what wyll you saie thereto / what āswere cā you make / haue you vpholdē these thinges so lōge / haue you shamed / troubled killed so many of the Kynges trew subiectis for that thīg / which ye cā not defēde to be true ād if you haue nothinge for you / but youre awne dreamis / they wil not helpe you For they be accusyd with you And therfore / the kynges highnes if it pleased him myght laye hie tresone to youre charge / and also the abomynable cryme of heresye / whiche ys all ways in youre mouthes / yf a man speake but agēst youre olde showes what say yow to these thingis yff they be false / it is a smalle matter for yow to refelle them by holy scrypture / yf they be trewe / why geue you not place you shall well knowe that I wyll defend ernestly Godes cause ād my prynces / and that not out off myne awne hed / but out off holye scrypture / whyche I doo neyther wrynge nor wreste / but onlye declare it by the practyce off oure most gracyous Master Christ Iesus / and of all hys holy apostles Can you requyre any more It not thys suffycyent probacion Is not thys cause good Is yt not ryghtuous Is yt not to the honoure of god Notwithstondynge I am sure that I haue taken thys matter in hond with you / to my grete daūger / yf you may haue youre wyllys / But here do I set my lyffe / and body agenste youres / to defende thys matter agenst you / yf yt wyll plesse the kinges noble grace / to geue me fre pardon and to defende me from youre vyolence / I aske no pardō of any trespasse / that you or any dedly enymye that I haue / can proue that I haue done agenste the kynges noble grace / but that alonly I am compelled to flye youre dedly and intollerabylle vyolence But yf yt shall pleasse the kynges highnes to defend me frome youre vyolence in my ryght / I wylle dyscusse thys matter wyth you by Chrystes worde / And yf I be ●uercome / I doo not refuse dethe / and soo shall you be shortly rydde off me / And yf yow be ouercome / yt were ryght that you shulde be punysshed Not wythstondyng I wyll desyer but amendmēt wherefore Most gracious prince / Humbly ād mekely / I besech youre highnes and that in the name of oure sauioure Iesus Chryst / a fore whom you must geue an accumpte off youre dignyte / Also I requier you by youre othe / that yow haue sworne to ryght and to Iustice / ye and also by all youre honour do I humbly beseche youre grace that you wyll defende me in my right / as you wil be defended of Chryst Iesus from all youre dedly enymies ye not to defend me / but godes worde / and youre prerogatiue / So that I truste youre grace will not be dyspleased / with youre daylye bedeman / that he requireth you so ernestly / for he desireth of you nothinge but that that stondeth with godes honoure / with youre graces preheminence / and with good ryght and conscience / and also with the othe that youre grace hathe made bothe to god and man Thys wolde youre grace doo / though I dyd not requyre yt / The cause is not myne / but it is Christes veryte which wyll neyther be mocked nor yet ouercome / It is also youre prerogatyue / whiche deserueth defendynge and also audyence / Though there were no worde of god I do requyre as god shal Iudge me no wordlye promosyon thereby / but alonly the verite of Christes worde / and of chrystes ordynaunce Vvhiche thynge yf I can proue / I doubte not but youre graces conscience / wyll Iudge it right that I shulde be harde / youre grace hathe no nede of the bysshops no more than off me / but vn to Chrystes worde / youre grace ys bounde / vnder the payne of euerlastynge damnacyon / from the whych neyther the bysshops / neither all their power / neither theyr pardons / neyther heuen nor erthe can delyuer you if you be foūde a transgressor This is the veryte / lett them crake ād face / blaste blowe / Praye / Singe ● Curse / absolue / bringe in their custōs / bryng in their churche / bringe in their lawes with all their myters their crossestaues / with all theyr spiritual honoure / they can not helpe youre grace but that the daunger shal remayne to youre graces parsone / if any thinge be amisse but this youre grace knowith better than I can telle yt wherfore I wille returne agayne to the cause It is openlye proued that oure master Christ / and all hys holy apostles were subiect / bothe in bodye and goodes to tēporall princes / And toke no temporall rule nor iurisdiccyon on thē wherefore I conclude / that what so euer they be that will be exempt from the tēporall power / Be neyther Christes apostles / nor chrystes dyssyples / no nor yet trewe chrystened men / though they haue Chrystes and Peter and Paules name / an hundred tymes For Chrystes wordes be playne whych sayth / Matt. 20. yow doo knowe that the lordys of the gentles haue dominacyō ouer thē but so shalle yt not be amonge yow And these wordes were spoken to the apostles and can not be avoyded by alytle dystynccyon / as the bysshops are wonte too avoyde all holly scrypture But what soo euer they saye / the practyce off oure Master Chryst and off all hys holy apostles wyll declare how they vnderstonde yt And moreouer to stope their mouthes I wyll shewe them how holy doctours vnderstode yt / Origene Ro. 13. Orygene vppon thys texte / Omnis anima / sayeth on thys maner / All maner
insurreccyon agenste youre grace But now youre grace may lyghtly iudge whether that they be traytours that wyll mynyshe youre power / yee and almost take yt cleare a waye / and not soo content except they be also youre fellowes wyth in youre awne realme / or els I that wyll be obedyent with all mekenes and lowlines vnto youre grace / ād also lerne all other men so to be and to geue vn to youre grace all maner off power erthlye vnder god whiche thynge I do not now allonly lerne / but all ways did lerne that same and dyd intende for to haue proceded further in this cause yff yt had pleasyd god that I myghte haue contynued / as myne artycles for the whyche I was condemned do openly declare and testyfye whyche thynge as sone as the bysshops perceyued / they thought yt was not good for them that I shulde contynue and therefore they toke me and condempned me for an heretyke / wyth out scrypture / agenste goodes worde / Agenst all good order / Agenst all good conscyens / agēst all manhod And not soo content / but put me to the greatyst shame that their hartys coulde deuyse ād afterwarde put me in preson allmost thre yearys / and yet not so content but sought all false / vncherytable and vnchrystyned meanys too brynge me to dethe / the whyche no doute but they had done yt / yff they had not feryd youre grace more than god It ys not to be doubted / but that youre grace and also all the worlde / hearynge howe they dyd vse me / wyll suspect and Iudge / that I haue done some intollerabylle cryme / and that I haue offendyd in heresye and too sore agenst god and hys blessyd worde / or ells the bysshops wolde neuer have soo handelyd me / thys all the worlde wyll thynke For they be reuerent fathers and holy men / and great prelates off Christes churche / and men off great lernynge / and suche men that they will not of their honour / handyll any man so sore / except yt wers for a great and an vrgent cause Truthe yt ys that all these thynges they wyll be / but howe honorable / and howe cherytable they haue byn vn to me / the cause wyll declare yt selfe / yff yt please youre grace no more but too rede the artycles for the whyche they haue condempned me And that youre grace ād all the worlde myght se them / I haue put them forthe in prynte I thynke youre grace shall not fynde manye thynges in them neyther agenst god nor yet agenst hys holy worde / but agenst theyr abomynable lyuynge and damnable pompe and pryde be the moste parte off them all Those ware the thyngys / that I toke in honde to dystroye / but these thynges a fore god / and a fore all chrysten men / be very farre from heresy Notwythstondge / yt was not possyble that I and all my frendes coulde deuyse any resonable ende with them / but that I shulde spend all my lyffe in pryson / my trespace as they sayd was so great To speake agēst prynces is at the most but treason / but to speake agenst these holy goodes ys bothe treason and also heresye / whyche ys the greatyst cryme in erth / yf harte coulde deuyse any greater cryme yt shulde be layd vn to hym / suche heuenly parsons be these / It ys euell medlynge for mortall men with immortall godes / for there ys no waye to make satisfacciō This haue I well proued to my vtter vndoynge / for I beynge in preason made dyuers tymys meanys vn to certayne off them / as vn to my lorde of london / fyrst that yt wolde pleasse hys holynes / to speake wyth me / and yf he found me in any errours / that he wolde be so good as to teache me / for I desyred to lerne the veryte and yff he founde me in none / I wolde desyre hys holynes that he wolde laboure for me too my lorde Cardynalles magestye that I myght come out off preason / for I was a younge man / and yf I had made any faute for wante of descrecyon / lernynge / or wysdom / I wold gladlye in time to come by godes grace make a mendes / Allonlye my request was that he wolde be so good as to helpe / that I myght not lose and spend all my lyffe and youth in preason / but at the lest that I myght teache chylderne to wryte and to reade / and lerne them theyr gramer / and soo too gett my lyuynge wyth truth and honestye / and not ydlye to lyue in preason He made me answere that too speake wyth me he had none occasyon / and I was the man that he neuer sawe and therfore he knew no cause why I shulde desyre too speake wyth hym / ād as for teachynge off chyldern he wolde neyther graunte me wyth in preson / nor wyth out Moreouer yf it pleasse youre grace / at a nother tyme I sent certayne off my frendes vn to hym agayne / to the number of .viij. or .x. of the whyche a certayne were aldermen and of the worshypfullest cōmeners wyth in youre Citye of London / and men of so good substance that no courte wyth in youre royalme wolde haue refusyd them for twentye thousande poūde / these men I desyred in the waye off cheryte and for Chryst Iesus sake to go to my Lorde of london / and to desyre hym too be good lorde vn to me for my cause was put to hym that I might come out of preson / and that he wolde take some cherytable ende wyth me / and what soo euer thynge that he wolde require off me lawfulle and resonable I wolde performe yt and therto fynde hym good suertyes Thys thynge dyd youre faythfull subiectes dylygently for me / Alonly off theyr cherite and goodnes but what answere they had / youre grace may knowe off the bysshope off london and off them / Neuer the lesse I dare well say vnder youre graces fauour that the greate Turke could not be moore cruell than the Bysshop off london was / though hys cruelnes were colered a lytle wyth holy hypocrysie For he wolde neyther graunt them any parte off their petycyon / nor yt gladlye heare them too speake for me / but soo handelyd them that they were bothe a frayde too speake wyth me and also to speake for me to any man / yee they were a frayde to geue me meate and dryncke This is truth that I saye to youre grace They be men I truste a lyue and of great honestie for to testifie it / So that youre grace maye se / what cheritable fathers they be / what holy bysshops they be / what men of the church they be / that wyll nothinge but vengeaunce ād dystruccion of their power brethern / and yff a man come in their daunger there is no remedie nor no wayes to come out / nor no man maye labour for hym
haue why do they not put them bothe in vse for they must say as the Iuys sayd / we may kille noman This is the article that did byte yov for yov can not be content with the office of a bysshop but yov wille be also kynges but how that stondeth with godes lawe and with youre othe I haue declaryd yt to oure nobille prince I doute not but he wille put yov to the trial of these articles The .9 Article They saye they be the successors of christ ād of his apostles / but I can se them follow none but Iudas / for they bere the pursse / and yf they had not so greate possessions I am suer an C. wolde speke agenst them where now dare not one for losse of their promosyon As for this artycle I wil ouer come you with the witnes of alle the worlde yov may well cōdemne yt for heresy / but it is as trew as youre pater noster / Iudas solde oure master but once / and yov selle hym as oftyn as he cometh in youre handes The .10 Artycle THere is not the greatyst pharisye in thys churche / but I am suer I prycke him with these wordes and he knowithe that these thynges be trewe though he say the contrary ād that do I wel knowe This artycle dyd I speake by cause of doctour Rydle which on a tyme grauntyd in master doctour buttes house that the bysshops were clear out of order And therfore I say that I know yt The .11 Article THese ordynary bysshops ād prelattes do folow that false prophete balaā for they wolde curse the people but by the prouisyon of god they are compellyd toblesse thē / that ys to say / to teache them to lyue wel though they thē selfe lyue most myschevously so the Assis whych they ryde a pon that is the commen people haue their lyuys in abhominacyon Thys ys the heresy for it speketh agenst the holy fathers which be almost as holy as Balams asse whych dyd ons speke the word of god to a good purposse and so do they neuer / but I graunt that I dyd offend in callyng you ordenary bisshops for I shulde haue callid yov inordinate buchers / and as for that that I cōpare yov to balaam it is youre awne lawe .ij. q. vij Secutisunt / And .c. Nos si And as for youre lyuyng alle the world knoweth it The .12 Article THey sett vp an Idolle to dyseaue the people with alle whych is callyd Baal peor / Or baal phegor which is īterpretated gaspyng that is their lawes and constitucions that gaspe and gape to mayntayne their worldly honoure / they cause vs do sacryfyce by fayre wymē that is by their carnall affeccyons and sweate wordes that god of Israell is for gottyn / ād so by theyr sweat wordes and benedyctyon they disseue simple people These be the false masters that 2. Pet. 2. S. Peter speketh of / these be the fovntayns with out watter for they geue no good doctryne to the people where ys the heresy in thys by cause I cōpare youre lawys to baal / but loke whether the interpretacion of the word do a gre with the nature of youre lawes or not what do al youre lawes but mynyshe the auctorite of princes / and of al other lordes and exalte youres only calle yov not that a gaspyng Idolle let thys article stōd tyll yov be able to proue it heresy The .13 Article NOw they selle vs / they selle the people / they selle holy orders / they selle church halowyng / there ys no better marchandysse in chepesyde / wilt thow knowe what is the price of a church halowyng no lesse than .xl. shelinges / they sel pardōs remyssions of synnes as opēly as a cowe and an oxe is solde for thei never graunt them with out monny The suffrigan of ely dyd aske of master Iohan pur golde .xl. shelinges and the offringe for halowynge of S. Edwardes in Cambrige / yee and he wolde not do it so good chepe / but bi cause he had a goddoughter buryed in the churche yarde / But this may be prouyd by exampillys ynow for bryng ye forth one churche in all Englond that yov haue hallowyd with out monny or with out hope of mony / and I wyll graunte my conclusyon false / and as for youre pardōs all the worlde knoweth youre handelyng I dare say yt is the best marchandyse in the worlde as yov handill yt The .14 article VVylte thou know what their benedictyō is worthe They had rather geue the ten benediccions than one halfpeny Is not thys a sore heresy you ryde thorow streates and townys blyssynge man and stone but yov never geue halfpeny to man nor to chylde The .15 Article NOw is come a pardon wherby they say that they haue power to send an hūdred soules to heuyn / and if they may so doo with out any further respect than may they lykewysse send a nother hundred to helle for yt followeth in the texte quodcunque ligaueris / that is what soeuer thou bindest Is not this a sore heresy to say that you may not rule thys matter at youre iudgement / but this is a meruelous texte / Quodcūque ligaueris / for yt bindeth in helle and losythe in heuyn / and openeth mens pursys and cofers in erthe / yt deposith prynces / yt interdyteth londes yt losyth a man out of his cote / yee oftyn tymes yt losethe a man from his wyffe / yee and the horsse out of the carte And all ys done by this text Quodcunque ligaueris / is not thys a mervelous texte that hathe so great power I know not such a nother in a● the hole Bible The .16 Article IT ys abhominable to here how they preache and teache that they may absolue a pena a culpa / which I am suer that yt is ●mpossible as they vnderstond it Make of this what yov can / and loke of youre awne scolasticall doctours The .17 Article VVhat ys the cause that they forbyd vs thou we shuld not dyscusse how great their power is but by cause that they wold make all mē foles holde vs in ygnoraunce / youre awne scole men saye that the popis power is so great that no man can nor maye dyscusse yt / but this ys for from herysy The .18 Article THey haue a law most abhominable and cōtrary to godes lawe and cheryte to excōmunycate the people foure tymes in a yeare / that ys to saye the men that rayse the rent off an housse / that must you vnderstonde yff yt belonge not to the church / for yff yt belonge to the church / thou mayst rayse yt everye moneth once and no man shall cursse the. Also they cursse them that be not buryed in their parish church / that must be vnderstond yff that they be ryche men / for yf they be poore they may be buryed amonge the fryars The bisshope of bathe sayd there was
saye to this text S. Ambrose declarith it on this maner They are iustified frely / for thei doyng nothyng nor nothyng deseruyng / alōly by faithe are iustifyed by the gifte of god c̄ here you not / that mē workinge nothynge at al / nor nothyng deseruing / ar iustified bi faith only / yee that frely yov were wont to say that faithe dothe Iustifye / but not alonly ād therfore wolde yov crye / For. Sola Sola Sola only / only / only Here haue yov hym / ād to helpe hym yov haue also gratis that is frely / ād also dono de● that is by the gyfte of god / and nihil operātes that is workinge nothinge at al. if these wordis do not exclude workis and alowe faithe only / I can not telle what wordis wille do it And lest that S. Ambrose shulde not be sufficient in this cause / I wille also bring yov Origyne on this same texte whose wordis be these Orig. ad Rom. li. 3. cap. 3. Paule saythe that the Iustificacion of fayth is alonly sufficient So that if a man / do beleue alonly he is iustifide though there be no workis done of hym at al / bi faythe was the thefe iustifide with out the workis of the law / wherefore a man is iustifide by faythe / vn to whom / as cōseruyng iustificacion the workis of the law / helpe nothyng c̄ Vvhat say yov by Origyn / that saythe how men be iustifyde / though they do no good workys at alle / for workis do helpe nothyng to Iustificaciō / but faythe only Be not these playne wordis / gravnt these wordis / and we wille aske no more of yow / here haue yov also Sola Sola Sola so that yov nede not Crye no more for Sola For yov haue more thā yov can welle a voyde / Also Origen bryngith an opyn example of the thefe that no man can deny who can haue lesse good workis than a theffe whiche is neither good before god nor man Rom. 9. Also paule in the .ix. chapter bryngithe in the gentille / whiche knowithe nothynge of God / nor hathe done no good workis / but contrary blasphemyde god / and hys holy name and hathe allways lyuyde in idolatrye ād byn an vtter enymy vn to alle goodnes / he bringythe in also the Iue fulle of good workes of the lawe / whyche hathe also great zele to god / Rom. 10. and to his workis / yee ād of that Paule beryth hym wytnes breuely he bryngith in for hym suche a Iue that no mā cā cōplaine of / but is fulle of good workis yee take al the best of the Iuys to gether For it were madnes for paul to speke of the damnable iuys that were opyn wrechis and damnable by the Iudgement of the law with al theyr good workis / and yet S. Paule dothe exclude them and repellithe them clearly from iustificacion with al their good zele / and with al their good workys ād concludithe with playne wordis / that the gentille which was fulle of damnable workis / and had neither zele nor loue vn to goodnes is iustifyed by faythe only / These be S. Paules wordis Rom. 9. Vve saye that the gentilles whyche followyd not rightwysnes haue obtenyd ryghtwysnes I mene the ryghtwysnes whiche comith of faithe But Israell whyche folowyd the law of rightwysnes / colde not attayne vnto rightwisnes / where fore bicause they sought it not bi faythe but as it were by the workis of the lawe Be not these playne wordis that the gentilles whiche followyd no rightwisnes / nor had no minde ther vn to / are Iustifyed frely by faythe Is not here Sola fides / only fayth More ouer the Iue ys repreuyd with al his zele with al his loue with al his studye and with all hys good workis Is not this a meruellous thyng yes verely And so meruelous that yov shalle neuer vnderstond it with out yov beleue But peradventure here shalle be sayd that the good workes of the Iuys dyd not profyte them / by cause they had no faythe But if they had had faythe / than wolde they helpe to their iustificacion To this I make answere / trouth it is that good workys dyd not proufyt that Iuys for want of faithe / but this is false they workis shulde haue holpe to Iustificaciō with faythe For S. Paule prouythe clearly that good workys helpe nothyng to Iustificacion nor eville workis let not the iustificacion that comythe by faythe / And this he prouyth bi the exampille of the gentille / which had no good workys but alle evill and all damnable workys / and yet ys iustyfyed by fayth Moreover the Iue hathe the zele of god and alle maner of good workis with alle thyng that the worlde cā deuisse al this coulde not helpe hym where fore the glory of iustificacion remanyth only to faith Also S. paule provithe playnly in these wordis that workis haue no place in Iustificaciō / to hym that workyth is the rewarde not geuyn of fauour but of deutye To hym that workythe not / Rom. 4. but beleuithe on hym that Iustifythe the wikkyd mā / is faythe coūtyd for rightwysnes How thynke you bi these wordis be they not opynly agēst al workis saythe he not that Iustyficacion is imputyd vn to hym that workith not but alonly beleuythe in hym that iustyfythe the wykkyd man I pray yov what good workis dothe the wikkyd man Marke also how he saythe that ryghtwysnes is ymputyd vn to hym / Ergo yt ys not deseruyd For that that is deseruyd / is not imputyd of fauour / but it must be geuyn of dewty How thynke yov is not this Sola fides onlye fayth ▪ yow know that there be but workis and faythe that do Iustitie / and S. Paule excludythe workys clearly Ergo faithe alone remaynith / but paradventure yov will say As yov be full of holy hypocrisye that workis with faythe do Iustifye / Neuer the lesse of mekenes and lowlynes / and avoydyng of al bost of youre godnes yov wille geue alle the glory to faythe / as vnto the principalle thynge with out the whiche no workis can helpe / not with stonding workis be good and do helpe to iustificacion / though of mekenes yov wille not know it Is not this damnble hypocrisy ye ād that with god which were intolerable if it were with men But how can yov proue by scripture that this hypocrisy of youres ys trewe / that workis ar worthy of any glory of iustificacion Is not this opyn lying on faith to geue alle to hym and yet as yov say he is not worthy off alle for workis be worthy of parte / yf faythe be not worthy alonly / Confesse it opynly / and geue workys hys prayse / and fayth her praisse / and say not one thyng with youre mouth ād thynke another in youre hartis for god serchith the
mercifulle / and so mercifulle / that he wyll not impute my synnes vn to me / Though they be neuer so great so longe as I hange on the blessyd bloud of Christe Iesus he is also a lyberalle father / yee and that vn to me lyberalle / which will not alonly promyse me al thynges / but also geue them me whether they be necessary to the body or to the soule He ys also not alonly lyberalle / but myghty to performe all thynges that he promisyth vn to me Breuely this faith maketh me to hange clearely off god and off his blessed promisis and not too fere dethe nor none afflyccion / nor persecucions / nor tribulacion / but too dispysse all these thinges / and not allonly these / but to dispisse also myne awne selfe / mine awne body / myne awne life for Christes sake Finallye of a fleshely best it maketh me a spirituall man / of a damnabille childe / yt maketh me a heuenly sone / Of a seruaunt of the deuell / yt maketh me a fre man of godys / both deliuered frō the lawe / from sinne / from d●the / fro the deuell / and from all mysery that might hurte me My lordes this is the faythe that dothe Iustifie / and be cause it is geuen from heuen in to oure hartis by the sprete off god / therfore it can be no ydille thynge / But it must nedis do all maner of thingis / that be too the honour off god / and also to the profite of oure neyboure / in so muche that at all tymis necessary yt must nedis worke well / and also brynge forthe all good workes / that may be to the profitte and helpynge off any man But these workys be not done / too Iustifye the man / but a iuste man must nedes do them / Not vnto his profite / but allonly to other mēs profites / euyn as oure Master Christ / suffered hunger and thurst / and persecucion and toke greate labours in preachinge of hys worde / ye ād also suffered deth all these thinges I say dyd he not to further or to profite him selfe / But for oure merit and for oure profytt / so likewyse doth a Iuste man his workes And as a good tre in tyme off yeare bringeth forthe a god appylle / not to make hym good for he is good a fore / nor yet this appyl is not to his profyt / But vn to other mens not withstondinge the good nature that ys in him must nedys brynge yt forthe / so lykewyse the Iuste man must nedys do good workys / not by them to be Iustyfyde / but allonly in them to serue hys brother for he hathe no nede of them / as consernynge hys Iustyfycacyon wherefore now here haue yow the very trewe cause off Iustyfycacyon / that is faythe allonly / And also the very trewe waye and maner of doynge good workis / And how that no man can do good workis but a Iustified mā / As oure Master Christ saythe / eyther make the tre good ād thā hys frute most be good / Mat. 7. Or ellys the tre euyll and hys frute also euyll for a good tre must nedys brynge forth good frute / And a bad / evell frute But now lett me answere to theyr scrypturs and too their carnall reasons that they brynge to proue that workys do Iustyfye Soluetōs to the scripture whych thei falsly allege Fyrst cometh the flesslye and damnable reson / And the saythe yf we be Iustyfyde allonly by fayth what nede we to do any good workis what nede we to crucyfye or to mortyfye oure fleshe / for all these wylle not profytt vs / and we shall be sauyd though we do none of them al. Thus dyd blinde reason dispute with Saint Paule whan that he had prouyd / that god off hys mere marcy / had delyuered vs frely from the damnable bondage off the lawe / A none he Iudged that he myght doo what he wolde / for he was no longer vndernethe the lawe / To thys Saynt Paule answereth / that yf we obey vn to the workys of synne / than are we the seruauntys off synne / and yff we obey to the workys off Iustys than are we the seruauntes off Iustys / soo that yff we truly haue that same faythe that Iustyfythe vs / we shall desyere too doo noo nother workys but those that belonge too Iustyfycacyon / not that the workys do Iustyfye vs / but that we must nedys doo these workys / as the very trew frutys off Iustificacyon / ād therfore those men that wyll do no good workys by cause they be Iustyfyde alonly by faythe / be not the chylderne of god nor the chylderne of Iustyfycacyon / and of that ys this a suer and an euydent token / for yf they were the very trew chylderne off god / they wolde be the gladder to doo good workys / by cause that they are Iustyfyed frely Therfore shulde they also be mouyd frely to worke / yff yt were for no nother purposse / nor profyte / but allonly to doo the wyll off their mercyfulle god / that hathe so frely Iustyfyed them / and also to profyte theyr neyboure / whom they are bound to serue of very trewe cheryte Take an exampell / here ys a thefe that ys condemnyd by ryght and by law to be hangyd whom the kyngis grace of hys mercy / dothe frely delyuere from the gallous / and geuythe hym hys pardon / Nowe thys thefe thus delyuered wyll not kepe hym selfe a trew man nor do those workys that belonge to a trew man to doo / but fallyth agayn to stelynge by cause the kynge perdonyd hym so frely / and rekenyth that the kynge ys so mercyfull that he wyll hange noo theuys but delyuer them all of hys mercy with out their deseruyng / Now how thynke you wyll the kynge be marcyfull vn to thys thefe whan he comythe agayne to the gallous nay truly / but yff he had done those thynges that the kyngys pardon deseruyd / than had he come noo more in danger / but shulde haue byn styll in the kyngys fauou●e Thē cometh my lorde off Rochester / ād he saith the faith doth be gynne a Iustyfycacyon in vs / But workys do performe yt and make yt parfyt / and by cause that noo man shall thynke that I lay yt vn to hym vnrightwisly I wil resyte his awne wordes Arti. 1. Per fidem initiari dicitur iusticia solū / non autē cōsummari nā cōsūmata iusticia nō aliter quā exoperibꝰ natis / et in lucē editis acquiri potest / Opera cōsummate iustificāt / Fides primū inchoat c̄ Vvhat christenyd man wolde thynke that a bisshope wolde thus triffylle and play wyth godys holy worde Godys worde ys soo playne / that no man can avoyde yt how that faythe Iustyfythe allonly / and now commyth my lorde of Rochester / wyth a lytle and a vayne
vs if they be impossible what right is in him that dāneth vs for that thing that is impossible for vs to do / I answere o thou blind p̄sumtuous / dānable reson / where haste thou lernyd of ony other creature to inquier a cause of thy makers wyll / or ellis to murmur / agenst the ordynance of thy lyuinge god / what hast thou to do / to requier a cause of his actis he hath made that with out thy consent coūsell may he not sett law ys ꝯmādemētis to rule that bi at his plesur with out coūsel thou artworthy of none āswer / thou arte so presūtuꝰ nor there is no godly āswere that will satifyse that Neuer the lesse I wyll stope thy blasphemynge mouth / by thyne awne wysdom to thy gret shame First thys thyng must thow graūte me / that thy god is Essencial goodnes / is nothing but goodnes / wherfore he can commande nothyng / but that is good / Iust rightꝰ / which thngys yf thou doo not or be not abylle to doo Thy maker may not lett his goodnes vndone by cause of thy naughtynes / or for thyne vn a byllnes / And if thou biste not abille to do those good thyngis that he commandyth the / There is no faute in the commander / nor yet in the commandimentis / wherfore than doste thou grudge agenste hym with out a cause But yet wylte thou murmur and say how that he knoweth how they be impossible for the / Truthe that is he knoweth it / Than wylt thou say / wherfore dothe he command them to me O thou presumtuous creature it were suffycyently āswered to the to say that it is his plesur so to commaunde what couldest thou say more / what occasyon haddest thou to murmur what vrōg haste thou But I wille go forther thy maker knowythe that they be impossible for the he knowithe also / thy damnable and presumtuous pryde / that rekkynest how thou canste do alle thyngis that be good of thyne awne strēgth with out any other helpe / and to subdewe thys presumtuous pryde of thyne / to bryng the to knowlege of thyne awne selfe / he hath geuyng that his commaundymentes of that which thou canste not complayne / for they be bothe righttus ād good And if thou complayne bi cause they be impossible for the / thane consyder thy damnable pryde / that thoughtest thy selfe so stronge that thou couldest do alle goodnes / But what wylt thou nowe doo these commandimentis be geuyn and cannot nor shalle not be changyd to satysfyse thy presūtuus pryde / where of wilte thou now complayne godes commādimentes be resonable / they be good / they be righttus / and they be laudable / shalle alle these thynges be dystroyd to satisfyse thy pryde / nay not so / But thou shalte rather remayne / with alle thy pryde vnder the damnacion of these commandimentes / what sayst thou ther to cāste thou avoyd this canste thou say but this is ryght / canste thou saue thy selfe from danger / canste thou a voyde thy damnacion by alle thy carnalle wysdom nay verely / for he that is thy aduersary is omnipotent where fore say what thou wylt / So must it be / for it is godes ordināce whiche may not be chāgyd But now wilte thou aske what remydy no remydy but this wonly / to confesse thy wekenes / to confesse thy pryde / to knowlege thy vnabyllnes / to graunt that these commandymentes be lawfulle holy and good / and how thou arte bounde to kepe them / and to geue laude and prayse to god for them / and to go to thy mercyfulle maker with this confessyon / and to desyer hym that he wille helpe the / that he wille be mercifulle vn to the / that he wille strength the for thou arte to weke / That he wille geue the his spret / for thy spret is to fleshely / to fulfylle these spritualle commandementes and doute thou not but thou shalt fynd hym bothe mercy fulle and also gracious for he gaue thou these commandymentes for that intent / secretly declaryng bothe thy pryde also thy wekenes / that thou mightest seke ād calle vn to hym for helpe Thys dothe S. Augustine declare welle in these wordis / de tempo ser 5.3 yf man do perseue that in the cōmandymentes / is any thynge impossible or els to harde / lett hym not remayne in hym felfe / but lett hym runne vn to god hys helper / that which hathe geuyn his commandimentes for the intent / that oure desyer myght be sturryd vpe and that he myght geue helpe c̄ Marke S. Augustine saithe that the commandymentes be impossible vn to oure strēgthe / but we must calle to god for strengthe The palagiōs did rekyn / that they had got a grett vyctordū whan they had made this carnalle reson / that God wolde commande nothyng that was impossible / of thys reson dyd they glory ād tryumphe and thought that they must nedes haue some naturalle strengthe and power to fulfylle the commandimentes of god / seyng that god wolde commande nothyng impossible to man Off this same reason dothe my lorde of rochester and alle his scollars glory vnto thys same day But let vs see how S. Augustine answeryth them / D●li arb cap. 16. The palagions saithe he thynke that they knowe a wonders thyng / whan they say God wille not command that thyng the which he knoweth / that is impossibille for man to do / Euery man knoweth this / but ther fore dothe he commaunde sertyn thynges / that we cā not doo / Eccle. 12. by cause we myght knowe / what thyng we ovght to aske of hym / Faithe is she whych by prayer optaynyth that thyng that the law commandithe / breuely he that saythe / If thov wilt thou mayst kepe my commādimentes / In the same boke a littille after saith / he shalle geue me kepyng in my mought Playne it is that we may kepe the commandimētes if we wille / but by cause oure wille is prepared of god / off hym must it be askyd / that we may so muche wille / as wille suffice vs to do them / trouth it is / that we wille / whan we wille / but he makyth vs to wille that thyng that is good Here haue yov p●ayne that my lord of Rochesters opynyon and the palagyons ys alle won / for they bothe do agre that the commandimentes of god / be not impossible to oure naturall strēgth But S. Augustine saythe they be impossible / And therfore be they geuyn that we shuld know oure wekenes / also aske the strengthe to fulfille thē / For faythe bi prayer dothe optayne strengthe / to fulfylle / the impossible commandimentes of the lawe Here haue you also / that god mouythe vs and causythe vs to be good willers / ād geuythe vs a good wille for els we wolde
scripturs of S. Paule / can not telle whether he maye graunt that the wylle of god is alonly the cause of eleccion or eis any merites of man precedinge a fore / he cōcludeth / that bothe the opinions may be defended Bonaventure blyndly concludeth that there may be a cause presedynge grace that deserueth yt Bonaventure So that in these vnfrutefulle questions which ingender nothynge but contencion haue they spent alle their lyuys / and for these thynges be geuen vn to them peculyer namys / as Subtylle / and Seraphicalle / and Irrefrigable doctours / but agenst them alle I sett S. Paule whiche toke intollerable labours to proue by inuincible scripturs and examples there of / that there was no cause but alonly the wylle of god and to proue this / he bryngeth an euydent exāple of Iacob / and Esau / of the whiche Iacob was elect / and Esau reproved a fore they were borne / and afore they had done other good or bad Can there be a playner example what meneth Paule in these wordes whane they were neyther borne / nor had done neyther good nor bad / but that the eleccion of god myght stond dothe he not clearly take away all maner of merytes bothe de congruo and also de condigno / declareth alonly the wylle of god to be the cause but here wylle the subtylle blyndnes saye / that god sawe a fore that Iacob shuld doo good ād therfore dyd he chousse hym / he sawe also that Esau shuld doo no good / and therfore he repelled hym / yov blynd gydd●s / what wyll yov iudge of that that god sawe how knowe you that he sawe that These chyldern be vn borne / they haue done neyther good nor bad / ād yet one of thē ys chossen the other is refused S. Paule knoweth none other cause but that wyll of god / wyll you discusse an other And where yov say that god did se afore the one of thē shuld do good I pray you what was the cause / or wherby saw he that he shuld do good yov must nedes say / bi that that he wold geue hym his grace / ergo that wyl of god is yet the cause of eleccion / for by cause that god wolde geue hym his grace therfore god sawe that he shulde do good / so shuld also the other haue done yff god wolde haue geuen hym that same gra●e / wherfore yov gyantes that wylle subdue heuen and erthe leue youre serchynge off this cause / and be content with the wylle of god and doute yov not but the wylle of god / ys as rightwyse and as lawfull a cause of eleccion as youre merites can de And doute yov not but. s Paule that toke so grete labours in this matter dyd se as farre in mans deseruynge as yov cane doo / Roma 9. and yet he concluded with these wordes of scriptures / I wylle shew mercy to whome I shew mercy / I wylle haue compassyon of whome I haue compassyon / so lythe yt not in mans wylle or runnynge but in the mercye of god He saithe not I wylle haue mercy on hym that I see shalle doo good / but I wylle shew mercye to whome I wylle he saith not I wylle haue compassion of hym that shalle deserue yt de congruo / Augustinꝰ suꝑ Ioan. Tract 8● but of him of whome I wylle haue compassion This dothe S. Augustine well proue in these wordes / the disputacion of them ys vayne the whiche doo defende / the presciens off god agenste the grace of god and therfore saye that we were chossen a fore the makynge of the worlde / by cause that he knew a fore that we shulde be good / not by cause he shulde make vs good but he that saith yov haue not chosen me saithe not that / for yf he dyd therfore chouse vs by cause that he knew a fore that we shulde be good / than must he also know a fore / that we shulde fyrst haue chosen hym c̄ Here is it playne that the eleccion of god ys not by cause he sawe a fore that we shulde doo welle / but alonly the cause of the eleccion is his mere mercye / and the cause of oure doyng welle is his eleccion / and therfore S. Paule sayeth not off workes but of callynge Now goo to yov subtylle Duns men with alle youre carnall reasons and serche out a cause of his secrett wylle yff you did beleue that he were good / rightwise and mercyfulle yt were agreet comforte for yov / that the eleccion stode alonly by his wylle / for so were yov suer that it shulde be bothe rightwyselye done also mercyfully / but you haue no faith therfore must yov nedes mystrust god / of that falle yov to invēt causys of eleccyon of youre awne strengthe as one shulde saye by cause god wyll not of his right●usnes or of his mercye chousse vs we wylle be suer that we shall be elected / for fyrst wyll we inuent that the eleccion commeth of deseruyng thā wylle we also dreme ser●en workes / that shall there vnto be a poynted of vs / so that the eleccion reprobacion stondeth all in youre hondes But now bycause that there be serten open places of scriptur / that geue wonly the cause / to god alonly of eleccion and also of reprobacion / therfore are you sore troubled / and cane telle no nother remydy / but alonly to studdy / how yow may wryng and wrest the open scripturs / to that forrefyynge of youre erroure and to the satisfysynge of youre carnalle reason / so that in the the holy gost saithe / I wyll obdurate the harte of pharao / yov wyll take a pon yow / to lerne to teache the holy goste to speke better / and to say of this maner / I wylle suffer Pharao to be indurated / but I wylle not doo yt / but my easynes my softenesse where by that I shalle suffer hym shalle brynge other men to repentaunce / but Pharao shall it make more obstinate in mallyce so that god dothe indurate as yov say whan he dothe not chastice a synner but sheweth sofftenes and easynes and sufferaunce to hym Origen in per●arcon He is mercifulle whan he doth call a synner to repentance by affliccion and scorgyng / so that induracion after youre exposicion / Glossa roma 5. is nothynge elles but for to suffer evylle / by sofftenesse and by goodnes / to haue mercye is nothynge elles but to correct to scorge and to ponishe mē for their synnes this is the exposicion of induracion after Origenen S. Hierom / ād after youre commen glosse Hiero. suꝑ Esaiam S / Hieroms wordes be these god dothe indurate / whan he dothe not by and by castigate a sinner / he hathe mercye whan he doth call a synner by and by vn to repentaunce by affliccions c̄ This is auctorite ynough
god / nor practys of christen men / nor exposycion of doctors / nor youre awne lawe / nor yet any statute of counselles that wylle hold agenst yov yov be meruelus giantes / how shall a man behaue hym selfe to handylle wyth yov / yt is not possible to ouer come yov / for yov wylle admyt● nothynge that is agenst yov But yet wyll I not so leue yov / but I wylle fyrst declare yt manifestly / that yov be contrary to christe / In prohe In Epist ad Ephes Li. 1. and to alle holy doctours S. Hierom / repreueth yov very sore in these wordes O Paula and Eustochium / yf there be any thyng in this lyffe that dothe preserue a wyse man and dothe persuade hym to abyde wyth a good wylle in the oppressions and the thravlledoms of the world I do rekken that specially yt is the meditaciōs and the studdy of holy scripture seyng that we doo dyffer from other creaturs specially in that that we be resonable and in that that we cane speke / now is reason and alle maner of wordes conteyned in godly scriptur / where by that we may lerne to know god and also the cause wherfore we be created / wherfore I doo sore marvelle / that there be certen men the whiche geue thē selfe / to slouthefullnes / and sluggyshnes ād wille not lerne those thinges / that be good / but rekken those men worthy to be reproued / that haue that good mynd c̄ Marke how that this was wrytten to two wemen / that were lerned Also he rekneth nothyng better / than to studdy holy scriptures / he also meruelyth / that serten wylle neyther studdy scriptures them selfe nor yet lett other men studdy them / It is well knowen / that these wordes prycke no men but yov / and yov be so slothefulle and so geuē to voluptuousnes / that yov youre selfe wyll not studdy scriptures nor yet suffer other mē to studdy thē but yf yov doo studdy them / it is to diffene youre symple pore brother there by / and to mayntayne youre abhominable lyuynge / with wrestyng and wryngynge of them other profite cōmeth there none of youre studdy / as all the worlde knoweth For you may not preche / but whā yov haue damnablye cōdemned christes blessed worde or els by vyolence / made some of youre poore brethern heretikes / than come yov wyth alle youre gorgius estate / pompe and pryde / to out face christ and youre symple brother / wyth youre outward damnable pryd a fore the face of the world / but my lordes / leve of youre fasynge and youre brasyng / for oure lorde whose cause we defend agenste yov / wylle at length not be out fased Remember how the holy gost prayth agenst yov saynge / iudge them lorde / Psal 5 that they may falle from their cogitacions / expelle them lorde for they haue prouoked the / dought yov not but this holy sprett wylle prevaylle agenste yov / though god suffer yov for a sesonne yet hathe he tyll this day defended hym selfe his godly wordes agenst all the proude crakynges of the world / and thynke yov that he wylle nowe take a faulle at youre honde nay nay / he shall fyrste thrust yov out hedlynges that alle the worlde shall take example by yov / this is my beleue For that word that yov haue condemned doth thus lerne me / wherefore iff yov do not reuoke the condemnacion of the newe testament / and ordeyne that alle christen men may rede holy scriptur yov shalle haue the grettest shame that ever men hade in this worlde for yov ar neuer abylle to defend yt by no menys / nor by no power that is in erthe / and if alle power in erthe wylle withstonde yt / he shalle rather bryng thē alle to duste and raysse vpp of stonys newe rulars yov wormys meat / yov stynkyng carrion yov nurryshement of helle fyer / how dare yov thus presume agenste youre god omnipotent whether wyll yov flye to a voyd his danger heuen and erthe / watter and fyer / sone / mone / and starrys / saynctes and angelles / man and childe / be agenst yov and holde yov a cursed what though the deuylle laffe on yov for a seson / Remem●er the ende / but god geue yov his grace / that I losse not my labour a boute yov But now lett me a soylle youre carnalle reasons that yov bryng for yov The fyrst is this euyll men doo take an occasion of heresy out of scripturs / wherefore yt is best they haue yt not / I answere lyke wyfe good men doo take an occasion of goodnes there of ergo the people ought to haue yt / but wylle yov condemne alle thynges where by men doo take occasion of evylle Than must yov fyrste put out youre awne yies for by them take yov occasyon to see meny idylle thynges yov must also dystroy youre hondes youre fette youre tonge / and alle that yov haue for these do yov mysse vse very often / yov must also distroy youre awne hartes wherby yov haue not alonlye occasion of evylle / but yov doo thinke evylle in very dede / yov must also destroye alle fayre wemen / for of them take yov sore occasions of evylle / yov must also burne alle your goodes and destroy alle youre richys / for of them mē take occasion to be theuys and yov to be proude / yov must also distroye all winys / for of them men take occasion to be drunken / yov must distroy alle mettes / for they geue men occasion of gluttyny / yee yov must distroye the marcy of god / of the which evylle men take boldnes in their myschyffe / breuely what is there soo good a thynge but that evylle men cane take an occasion of evylle / yee and that of Christe him selfe / as 1. Corin. 1. S. Paule saith which vnto to the Iuys is offence / and vnto the gentylles occasiō of folyshenes / and yet for alle this yov maye not dystroye Christ / but he must remayne stylle and so lyke wyse the gospelles / for though that the evylle man which wyl neuer be good reseue of it occasiō of evyll / yet there be meny thousandes that reseue there by their saluacion Now be cause the spyder gethereth poyson of the good herbis / it were no reason therfore to dystroy alle good herbys Mar. 1● A nother of youre reasons / there be sertē sentences in scripture that do not belōge for everye mā to know / as oure M. Christ faith / vnto yov is it geuē to know / the mysterys of the kyngdō of heuē / vnto thē is it not geuē I āswere whome mene yov whā yov say / vnto yov it is geuē / yf yov mene the aposles alonly their successors thā may not yov rede holy scriptur / for yov be not the successors of the appostles / by my lorde of
Rochestes auctoryte / but yff yov mene the christen people / that haue the sprete of god / as oure Master Christ ment than be yov excluded for yov haue not the sprytte of god as the effect dothe declare / ergo yov may not rede scripturs marke also that oure Master saithe vn to yov yt ys geuen / as who saith if yt were not geuen yov shulde no more haue yt thane other men Now howe cane yov proue that the vnderstondinge of scriptur is geuen to yov but now to the texte oure master Christe speketh here of the sprytualle / and the ryght vnderstonding of holy scripturs / which is the gyfte of god wonly / and he speketh not of studyyng or redynge of holy scripture / for yov haue in that same place / howe that meny dyd followe hym / and heare his prechynge but yet they vnderstonde hym not / therfore this texte maketh derectly agenste you ād youre workes doo declare that yov be the herars and reders of the worde of god but the vnderstondynge is not geuen yov But now wyll my lorde of Rochester say / that yov haue the very vnderstondyng as holy doctours had yt / for though that scripturs in them selfe and of their awne nature be playnest / ād beste to be knowē yet be the holy doctours playnest vn to vs / wherefore he that wyll vnderstonde scripture must fyrst lerne to vnderstonde the doctours / they shall brynge hym to the trew vnderstondynge of holy scripture / or els he must erre I answere o my lorde doo yov wryte this with a saffe consyens thynke yov that yov cane discharge youre consyens a fore the dredfulle face of Christe with this tryflynge distynccyon / Quedam sunt nociora nobis / et quedā nociora natura / I pray yow yf yow wylle proue that god were wyse / wold yov be gyne to proue yt at youre wysdō yf yow wolde proue that god were a lyue wold yov proue yt by that that yov be a lyue if yow wolde persuade a man to beleue that there is a gode / wolde yov lerne hym / that he must nedes beleue yt / by cause that there be creaturs these thinges be best knowen vnto yow / and yf yow wold proue that a man hath a trew sens of scripturs / wylle yov proue yt / by that that he hath the sense of the doctours what if the doctors had takē a false a contrary sense / this case is possible wold yov therfore saye that the sense which the mā hathe takē out of scriptur is false But I pray yov my lorde / after this rule / how culde mē / vnderstond scripturs / in Peter and Paules days whane there were no doctours Scotꝰ ●● Sent. di 3 q. 3 But after youre awne lernyng / that same sciens which must proue the principylles of other sciēces is fyrst knowen / actualiter / dystynkly / now be all the pryncipalles of alle other doctours proued trew by holy scriptur / ergo there is no saynge nor exposicion of holy doctoures that cane be perfytly knowen except that scripture be fyrst knowen / this is youre awne dyumyte ye cane not deny yt / wherefore if yov wille proue that yov haue the verite you must proue yt / by cause yov haue the sence of holye scriptur / and not the sence of holye doctoures but douteles I haue grete mervelle / that my lorde of Rochester / is neyther ashamed of man / nor yet afrayd of the vengeance of god that thus tryfylythe with holy scripture Besides this yov haue an other baulde reason / the Cytye of London hathe serten previleges and secret counsels / yt were no reason that alle men shulde know them / this was my lorde of Londons reason at Paulys crosse / whane he condemned the newe testament I Answere my lorde say of your consciens / dyd yov not speke these wordes to plesse my lord that mayre of London and his brethern / but I praye yov is thys a lyke symylitude of the serten counsels of men the which must be kept secrett by cause they be counsels / And of the holy scripturs the whiche were brought in to this world not to be kept secrett but to be preched openly / as oure Master Christe commandeth / preche the gospelle to alle creaturs / heare yov to alle creaturs Mar. vlt. lett these men haue yt for alle these be of the counsell ād kepe yov yt from the ressydue / furthermore oure Master saithe in a nother place / that that I haue shewed yov in secretnes / preche yt on the tope of the housse Also S. Paule saith / the gospell is declared openly thorow prechyng and in an other place god hathe brought lyffe and immortalyte / Ti. 1. 2. Timo. 2 Ioan. 3 Mat. 5. vnto lyght thorow the gospelle / also oure master calleth yt the lyght of the worlde / now who will sett as he sayth a lyght vnder a busshell / and not rather openly that alle men there by may be lyghtened wherefore my lorde youre symylytude ys verye for vn lyke / and iff yov were not a lorde yt ware worthy to be dyspised / but douteles yt may be welle thoughte that yov ware at a sore exigent / whan yov were cōpelled to proue this thinge with so baulde a reason / who wolde haue loked for so symple a reason in so ernyst a matter of so wyse a man / of so grete a doctour / of so worshypfulle a father / and of the bysshop of London / yee and of hym that ys called a nother Solomon / nor withstōdinge suche an haltyng symilytude dyd he neuer lerne in the prouerbes of Salomon / but yt had byn a better symylytude / of the kynges proclamaciō / which is proclaymed that all mē myght know yt and also kepe yt and noo man ys bounde to kepe yt / tylle yt be proclamed / lyke wysse the gospelle was geuen for to be proclamed / and everye man is bound to kepe yt / wherfore yt must nedes be proclaymed to everye man / and vn to yov my lord I be seche god that yov may be won of them of whome yt ys spoken To yov ys yt geuen to knowe the mysteryes of god Amen ☜ Finis ¶ Mens constitucions which be not grounded in scripture bynde not the consciens of man vnder the payne of dedly synne ☜ TO this article we must note that there be two maner of mynysters or powers won ys a temporalle power / the other is called a spritualle power / the temporalle power ys commytted of god to kynges / Dukes / Erlys / Lordes / Barrons / Iudges / mayrys / shryuys / and to alle other mynystres vnder them / these be they that haue wonly the temporalle swerde / where by they must order alle the commen welthe with alle wordly thynges longynge there vnto / as the disposiciō of these wordly goodes / who shal be ryght owner and
thyng that is commanded vs or els flye / but if any thyng be commanded vs that is agenste the worde of god where by oure faythe is hurt / that we shulde not doo in any wysse but rather suffer persecucyon and also dethe But agenst this power goythe not oure Artycle for it commandeth nothyng as consernynge the consyens / but alonly as consernyng the orderynge of worldly thynges and there fore / it mynistreth a temporalle payne over the boddy wonly and there wyth contēt / wherfore we wille now speke of the other power whych mē calle spiritualle Fyrst here is to be notyd that thys is no power Nor none auctorite worldly / but al ōly a mynystracyon of the worde of God and a spiritualle regement / prechyng the gouernynge of the soule and the mynystracion of the sprett hauyng nothyng to do wyth the exterior Iustes or ryghtwisnes of the world ād therfore hathe it no power bi ryght lawe to make any statutes or lawys to order the world by / but alonly faythe fullie truli to p̄che to minister the word of god there bi īstructīg the cōsyēs of mā nothīg addyng there to / nor takyng there from but as S. Paule saith / 2. Tim. 3 to abyde in those thynges that they haue lerned / Rom. 16 and that be commytted vn to them / for S. Paule as he hym selfe saith durste speke no nother thynge but those thynges which Christe had wrought by him / for he curseth hym be he man or angell that precheth any other gospell / Gala. 1. Hiere 23 than he had preched / therfore the prophete commandeth vs that we shulde not here the wordes of those prophetes which dysseue vs / for they speke visyons of their awne hartes and not out of the mought of god / and yet speke they in the name of god / wherfore these mē so longe as they speke wonly the worde off god / so longe are they to be harde / as christ him selfe / after that saynge he that hereth yov hereth me / Luce. 10 Mat. 23. Suꝑ Ioā Trac 46. also what so euer they saye vn to yov syttynge in the chayre of Moses doo yt / on the which texte speketh S. Augustine / By syttyng in the chayre is vnderstonde the lernynge of the lawe of god / and therfore god dothe teche by thē / but yf they wylle teache their awne doctrine hare yt not / doo yt not / for suche men seke that that ys theires and not Christes c̄ These wordes be playne agenst alle them that preche any thynge but the lawe of god wonly / wherefore yff these mynysters wyll of tyranny aboue the worde of god make any law or statute / yt must be consydered after two maner awayes / fyrste whether yt be openly and derectly agenst the word of god and to the dystruccion of the faith / as that statute is where by they haue condemned the new testament / and also forbydden serten men to preche the worde of god hauynge no trew cause agenste them / but alonly their malicius susspeccion / also that lernyng where by they lerne / that workes doo iustify more ouer that statute where by they bynd mē vnder the payne of damnacyon to be assoyled of them / these statutes I say with other lyke men are not bound for to obey nether of cherite for here is faith hurt which geueth no place to cheryte nor yet for a voydyng of sclander / for the worde of god may not be a voydyd / nor yet geue place / vn to sclander for than shulde yt neuer be preched / but it must be faste stucke vn to and the more that men be offended with alle ād the styffer that they be agenste yt / the more openly and planlye yee and that to their faces / that make suche statutes must we resyst them with these wordes / Act. 5. we are more bound to obey god than man This is well proued / by Hylarius wordes / Hylarius in Matt. cano 14. alle maner of plantes that be not planted of the father of heuen must be plucked vpp by the rootes / that is to say the tradicions of mē / by whose menys / the commandimentes of the lawe be broken / must be destroyed / and therfore calleth he them / blynd gydes of the way to euerlastynge lyffe / because they se not that thyng they promys / and for that cause / he saith / that bothe the blynde gydes and they that be led shall faule in to the dyke c̄ Marke that alle tradicious of mē which are agenst godes law must be dystroyed / therfore lett everye man take hede / for yt longeth to their charge / for bothe the blynd gydes and also they that be led shalle falle in the dyke / yt shalle be none excuse / for hym that ys led to saye that hys gyde was blynd / but lett them here the word of god by his holy prophete walke not in the preceptes of youre fathers nor kepe not their iudgementes / Ezech. ●0 but walke in my preceptes / and kepe my iudgementes The other maner of statutes be whan serten thynges that be called indifferent be commanded as thinges to be done of necessite and vnder the paynes of deedly synne / as for an example to eate fleshe or fyshe this day or that day is indifferēt and fre / also to goo in this rayment / of this collour or that collour / to shaue oure hedes or not / a prest to were a longe goune or a shorte / a gray fryar to were a gray cote or a Russett / a whytte fryar to were a whytte or a blake / a preste to marry or not to marrye / an heremyt to haue a berde or not / these with alle other suche outwarde workes / be thynges indifferent and may be vsed and also lefte / now if the bisshops will make any lawe or statute that these thinges shalle be determynatlye vsed so that it shalle not be lawfulle for vs to leue them vn done / but that we must presyssely doo them and not the cōtrary vnder the payne of dedlye synne / here must they be with stōded and in no wyse obeyd for in this is hurte oure faith and lyberte of christendome where by we ar fre and not bound / to any exterior worke / but fre in alle thynges and vn to alle men at alle tymys and in alle maner / excepte yt be in suche a cause where as brotherly cheryte / or the commen peace shuld be offended therefore in all these thinges be we fre ād we must withstonde them that wylle take thys lybertye from vs wyth thys texte of scripture / we are bought with pryce we wyl not be the seruātes of men / 1. Cor. 7. this texte is open agenste them that wylle bynd mennes conscyens vn to synne in those thinges that Christe hathe lefte them fre in / off this we
haue an euydent example of S. Paule the which wold not circumcise Titus whan the false brethern wolde haue compelled hym there vn to as a thynge of necessyte vnto whome Gala. 2. S. Paule gaue no romthe as consernynge to be brought in to subieccion s Paule dyd not with stonde them / by cause that circumsicion was vnlawfulle or myght not be vsed of christen men / but by cause that they wolde haue compelled hym vn to yt as vnto a thinge of necessyte / that thinge wolde not S. Paule suffer / for that was agenst the liberty that we haue in Christ Iesus as he saith here planly wherefore we be not alōly by christe made fre from synne / but also made fre in vsynge alle maner of thynges that be indifferēt / and vnto them we cane not be bound as vnto thynges of necessite as on the frydaye to eate fyshe / and there vnto be bounde in consciens vnder the payne of dedly synne / in thys we may not obey for yt is agenst the worde off god not be cause / it is evylle to eate fyshe for in tyme conuenient and whane thou arte disposed yt is good but by cause that they wylle in this thyng bynde oure consciens and make that thinge of necessite / that god hathe lefte fre Therfore speketh Paule agenst them in these wordes / In the latter dayes serten men shall swarue frome the faythe applyng them selfe to the spretes of errours / 1. Tim. 4. and doctryns of the deuylle / for byddynge maryage / and to absteyne from mettes / that god hathe created to be reseued of faithfullmen with thankes / for alle creaturs of god be good / and nothinge to be refused that ys reseued wyth thankes / marke how Paule saythe / nothynge ys to be refufed that may be reseued with thankes thys is openlye agenste them that wylle forbed other fyshe or fleshe this day or that day as a thynge vn ryght for a christē man to eate for as S. Paule saith meate dothe not commend vs vn to god 1. Cor. 8. Also in an other place the kyngdom of heuen is nother meatt nor drynke / Rom. 14. therfore they doo vn ryght to bynde oure consyens in suche thinges / and to thynke vs vnfaythefulle by cause we obserue thē not Nowe lett oure holy hypocrites of the charter housse loke on their consciens / whiche rekken to by and to selle heuen / for a pece of fyshe or fleshe but they rekken yt no vyce to lyue in hatered / ranker / and malys / and neyther to serue god nor their neyboure but with suche an hypocrites seruyce as they haue inuented off their awne hypocrisy / and not reseued of god / they thynke yt a greate perfeccion to absteyne from befe and mutton / and to eate pyke / tenche gurnarde and alle other costly fyshys and that of the dentyyst fascion dressed / but a pece of grosse beffe may they not touche / may they not smelle for than they losse heuen and alle the merites of Christes bloude Is not here a goodly feyned hypocrisy a fore the worlde yt shyneth bryghte / but compare yt vn to Christes scripture there cane not be a gretter balsphemy / for here in they clearly damne Christ and his ordinance and make that of necessite that Christe lefte as indifferent / agenste these holy hipocrites wrytteth S. Paule saynge / we ought not to be led with the tradicions of mē / Colo. 2. that saye touche not taste not / handylle not / whiche thinges peryshe with vsynge of them and are after the commandementes and doctryns of men / which thinges haue the symylitude of wysdom in supersticicyous holynes humbylnes in that they spare not the boddy ād do the fleshe no worshyp vn to hys nede Here is clearly condemnyd all supersticiousnes and feynyd holynes that mē haue inventyd in eatyng or drincking / in touchyng or in handeling / or in any other suche thinges not that we may not do thē / but that we do them as thynges of necessite and rekkyn oure selfe holy whan we do them / and to synne dedly whan we do them not / this is by the dānable institucions of men / The whiche S. Augustine condemneth in these wordes / The apostle saythe / Touche not / hādille not c̄ Ad paui Epi. 59. By cause that those men by suche obseruacions were led frō the verite / by the which they were made fre / where of it is sprokyn the verite shalle deliuer yov / It is a shame saith he and vnconuenient and farre from the nobillenes of youre liberte seyng yov be the boddy of christ to be disseuyd with shaddowes ād to be iudgid as sinners if yov dispysse to obserue these thynges / where fore lett no man evercome yov seyng yov are the boddy of chryst that wille seme to be meke in harte in the holynes of angelles ād bringyng in thynges which he hathe not sene c̄ Here haue we planly that those thynges which be of the inuencion of man do not bynde oure consciēs though they seme / to be of neuer so grett holynes and of humbillenes and holynes of angelles as paule saythe Col. ● where fore let them make what statutis they wille / ād as mvche holynes as they cane devysse / Invent as muche godes seruyce as they cane thynke / lye that they haue reseuyd it from heuyn / ād that it is no lesse holynes than angelles haue / ād set there vn to alle their mandamus / remandamꝰ / excommunicamus / sub pena excommunicacionis maioris / et minoris / Precipimus / Interdicimus / et sub indignacione dei omnipotentis / et apostolorū petri et pauli ligamus / with alle other suche blasphemis / that they haue for douteles if their belly were rippyd / there shulde be nothyng found but blasphemis of god and of his holy word / detraccions / Oppressions / Confusyons / damnacyons of their poore brethern / Other good haue we none of thē / lett alle Christen men answer to this of their conscyens if it be not trewe And yet are we fre in oure cōscyens / and alle these cane neyther bynd / nor damne oure consciens / for we are fre made thorow christ / And in consciens not bounde vnder the payne of dedly synne / to nothyng that man cane order or sette / excepte it be conteynyd in holy scripture / Epi. ad ro propo 72. But in boddy we are bound to euery man This doth S. Augustyne proue in these wordes Seyng that we be made of soule ād of boddy / as longe as we do lyve in this temporalle lyffe we must vsse / to the norysheyng of this lyffe / these temporalle goodes Therfore muste we of that parte that belongythe to this liffe be subiect vn to powers / that is / vn to men that do minister worldly thynges with some honour
/ but as consernyng that parte / wherby we beleue in god and be callyd vn to his kyngdum we ought not to be subiect vn to any mā that wille peruerte that same thyng in vs / that hathe plesyd god to geue vs to eternalle liffe c̄ Here is it playne / that we in conscyens by christ be made fre / and nothyng cane bynd vs vn to synne but his worde wonly Nowe is it clearly opyn that if any power in heuyn / or erth commaund any thyng agenst godes worde / or to the distruccyon or mynyshynge of the same no man maye obey in any caue vnder the payne of damnacion / for godes veryte is not in different to be left or not to beleft Agayne if man commande any thyng to be done that may be done in tyme and place cōvenient / If he wille bynde vs vn to indifferent thynges as vn to a thyng of necessite / than shalle we not do it / not bi cause it is eville to do / but that it is damnable to be done as a thyng of necessite / Neuer the lesse if any of these thinges be commandyd of the byshopes as burdyns and as thynges in different thane shalle we kepe them in tyme ād place conuenient / as where I may by them serue my brother / or edyfye hym or doo hym any good or that it maye be vn to hym anye menys to come to the verite / neuer the lesse at a nother tyme / whane I am in place conuenient where I shalle not offend my broder nor ingender no sclaunder nor any dysquietnes in the cōmen welthe / Ther may I frely with out any charge of conscyens and with out alle maner of synne breke the bisshopes commandyment / For it is but as a burdyn of a tyraūte / that is layd on vs / and neyther helpyth to the incresyng of godes honour nor to the edyfyynge of oure brethern / And they them selfe kepe them not Of these speketh oure master Christ / They bynde grevous and intolerable burdyns and lay them on mens neckes / Mat. 23. but they them selfe wylle not wons set their lytle fynger to them As for an example To ette fleshe on the frydaye is forbodyn by the bysshops / now if they compelle the to it as vn to a thyng necessary and with out the which thou canste not be sauyd than shalte thou not do it vnder the payne of synne / But if they wille haue the kepe this as a thing of congruens / and as a thing that may be an exterior mene to mortify the boddy / or an outwarde shyne of holynes / and vn to this he will compelle the by outwarde paynes / thys thyng shalte thou do of thy cherite / by cause thou wilte not breke the outward order / nor make any disquietnes for those thynges that neyther make the good nor yet condemne the a fore god / 1. Cor. 8. for as S. paule saithe / if we eate nether are we the better / Nor if we eate not are we the worsse / Alleways prouidid that in these in different thinges thou nother sette confydēce nor holynes / nor yet offende thy weke brothers cherite / for there in though thou be fre in thy selfe and the thyng is also indifferent to the yet of cherite frely makest thou thy selfe seruant to alle men As S. Paule sayth Vvhan I was fre from alle thynges yet dyd I make my selfe a seruant that I might wynne meny men / Note that he alleways speketh of weke brethern and not of obstinate and of induratyd persons / agenst whome thow shalte alleways with stond an defend thy liberte as he dyd he is thy weke brother that hathe a good mind beleuithe the worde of god / 1. Cor. 9. neuer the lesse he hathe not that gifte to perseue as yet this liberty to vsse indifferent thynges frely with thākes There fore faithe and cherite must be thy gyde in al these thinges folowing thē thou cāste not erte ¶ Alle maner of Chrysten men / bothe sprytualle and temporalle are bound whan they wylle be houslyd to reseue the sacramēt in bothe kyndes vnder the payne of dedly synne ☜ IF men had stucke to the open scripturs of gode / and to the practys of christes holy church and to the exposicion of old doctours as yt dyd be come christen mē to doo / than had yt not byn nedefulle for me to haue taken these paynys and laboures in thys cause / nor yet to haue layd to theyr charges those thynges that Antichrist dothe wonly / but now seyng that they wylle doo the open dedes of Antichrist / they must be content that I may also geue them his name / and that alle the world may openly know / that Antichrist dothe rayne in the worlde yee and that vnder the name of Christ I wylle here sett yov forthe an acte of his which whā it is compared to our Master Christes wordes I doo not dought but alle trew christen men wylle iudge yt to be of the deuylle as it is in very dede / though that the chyldern of the worlde doo iudge yt other wyse This do I say of an acte / that the coūselle of constanciēs did make agenst the most holy and glorius sacrament of oure eternalle god Iesus christ where in the won kynd of this most blessed sacramente was condemned as vnlawfulle for laye men to reseue / that euerye man maye know / by what auctoryte they did it / and what thing did moue thē to condēne so blessed and so glorious an ordināce of oure lorde Iesus christ / here wylle I wryte their awne wordes whiche be these / The wordes of the counselle determinacion of Antichrist as thys custome for avoydynge serten sclaunders and parrelles was resonably broughte in notwithstondinge in the begenynge off the church this sacrament was reseued of christen men vnder both kyndes / and afterwarde yt was reseued alonly vnder the kynde of brede / wherefore seyng that suche a custom off the church / and of holy fathers resonably brought in and longe obserued muste be taken for a law the whych shall not be lawfulle to repreue / nor with out auctoryte of the churche to change yt at amans plesur / wherfore to saye that yt is sacrilege / or vnlawfulle to obserue this consuetude or lawe / muste be iudged erronius / and they that doo pertinaciter defende the contrarye off these premissis / must be restrayned as heretikes grevously ponysshyd by the bysshoppes or their officialles / or by them that be inquisitores heretice prauitatis which that be in kyngdoms or in prouinces / in these men that doo attempte or presume any thynge agenst this decre shalle men procede agenste them / after the hollye and lawfulle decreys that be invented agenst heretykes and their fauters / in to the fauour of the catholycalle faithe c̄ Now wylle I exhorte alle christen
Here is it playne that the bloud is geuyn out of the chalys and not out of the boddy / and in to faythefulle mēs mowthis and not allonly in to pristes mowthis De cōsec̄ di 2. c. Siquocienscumꝙ Also an other lawe / if that the bloud of christ be shed for remyssion of syns as oftyn as it is shede thane ought I lawfully for to reseue it I which do alle ways synne muste alle ways reseue a medecyn c̄ Here youre awne lawe saythe / that the reseuyng of the bloud is a medycinealle ways to be reseuyd of thē that synne yov wille not denye but that laymen synne where fore shulde they not than reseue a medecyn for their synne yov may perseue that this is not alonly spokyn of pristes but of synners Ad Corneliū Papā Furthermore S. Ciprian saythe Howe do we reache or howe cane we provoke men to shed their bloud for the confessyō off christes name if we do deny them the bloud off chryst whan they shalle go to batylle Or how dare we able them vn to the victordum of marterdum / if we do not fyrst by ryght admitt thē to drincke the Cuppe of oure lorde in the cōgregacyon c. Here is Cyprian opynlye agenst yov which wille that as meny shalle reseue the bloud of christ as do confesse the name of christ yee ād that out of the cuppe not out of the boddy Also S. Ambrose sayth to the Emperor Theodosyus / Ecclesiastica hist how shalte thow lyfte vpe they hondes out of that which dothe yet droppe vn ryghtwise bloud how shalte thov with those hōdes reseue the boddy of god with what boldnes wilte thou reseue in to thy mought the Cuppe of the pr●cius bloude seyng that thorow the wodnes of thy wordes so gret bloud is shed wrongfully c̄ Marke that the maner was in S. Ambrose tyme that lay mē shulde reseue the blessid bloude of christ ye and that out of the cuppe seuerally / and not out of the boddy wonly / where fore my lordes se to youre conscyens how yov cane discharge youre selfe a fore the dredfulle trone of christ Iesus / for makyng this detistable and damnable statute agenste the heuynly worde of god / ād agenste the vsse of holy churche ād contrary to the exposycion of alle holy doctours / It were to gret a thyng for yov so p̄umtuously to breke the statute of youre mortalle prince how muche more of youre immortale god whiche wille not be a voydyd with a carnalle resū nor with condēnacyō of heresy / nor yet with sayng there be Iuperdes perrelles and sclandres / for these proude crakes cane not there excuse yov nor yet helpe yov for I dought not but the grett Turke hath as good resons for hym as these be also as provd crakes as yov haue / thovgh peraduēture he vsythe thē not so hipocritly agēst god omnipotēt as yov do / but yet it wille not helpe hym / where fore now moste excelent and gracious prince I do with alle meknes / with all due subyeccyon admonyshe and exhorte youre moste noble grace / ye and the father of heuyn dothe opynly commaund yov vnder the payne of hys displesur / and as yov wille a voyde the danger of eternalle damnacyon / and also by the vertu of christes blessyd bloud ād as yov wille reseue remissiō frō al yovre synnes thorow the merittes of his glorious bloud / That you do defend with alle youre myght Christes blessyd worde ād hys swet bloude / his holy ordināce / suffer thē not so lyghtly to be oppressyd trodyn vnder the fote / youre grace may not consyder in this cause the multitude / nor the dygnite of mē / for yow be as good as the beste of thē / but youre grace must consider that it is god omnipotentes cause / it is christes cause / it is the worde of god / it is the bleued bloude of Chryst that is ouer trodyn / it is the ordynance that commyth out of heuen / and not out of coūsellys ye ād geuyn by god hym selfe / and not by mans auctoryte / And now shall youre grace suffer this thyng so lyghtly to be broken by cause men do invente a carnall reason agenste it the devylle was neuer wyth out a reson / but that prouythe not the cause agenste godes worde Kynge Saul had no smalle reson for hym / 1. Reg. 15 whan he dyd saue Kinge Agag and the best shepe and oxen to offer to god / was not thys a resonable cause / to saue the bestys to godes honoure and to offer thē vp vn to god was it not a goodly shyne to saue the kinge rather than to kylle hym / what man wil rekyn it euyll to saue a mā what mā can iudge it evyll to saue bestis / ye and that the best to offer them to god was not god best worthy was not thys a good consyderacion was not this a good intent Fynallye yt ys ten tymys better than the reson of the counselle ys / ād yet Saull wyth all his good reson / with all his good deuocyon / wyth all hys good purposse / wyth all hys ●atte bestys ys repellyd of god for euer and alle by cause he stucke to his good intēcion and left the cōmandement of god / Sum men wyll think it but a lyghte thyng whether they reseue the blessyd bloud by yt selfe or ellis with the boddy / but as lyghte as they thynke yt yet ys it godes worde yet is it Chrystis ordynaunce / yet did the apostles obserue yt / yet dyd the holy church so fulfyll yt / And yf the worde of god were awaye by reson yt were but a lyghte thyng to baptyse in watter or in wine / but the worde of god ys open that it must be done with watter and not in wyne and yet there is no cause why but the worde of god Moreouer by reson it was but a light thyng to say / zacha 9. Mat. 20. Be glad thou doughter of Syon be holde they kyng cōmyth to the syttyng on an asse ād on hare foole this saing by reson is not alonly Symple / but also foolyshe to say that a kynge shall come rydyng on an Asse yee and on a borowyd asse and there of to make so muche a doo as though yt were a notable thynge / who wold not now mocke a kyng yf he dyd soo ryde / not with stondynge all thys these be the wordis of god / ye and also fulfyllyd in very dede of oure Master Chryst in hys awne proper parson Luc. 2. Moreouer by reson / yt was but a mad tokyn that the sauyour of the worlde christ Iesus was borne / to say you shall fynde a younge chylde wrappyd in clouttes and layde in a crybbe / what ys thys to purposse what ys thys to proue that the sauyoure of the worlde ys borne wyll not reson mocke thys whan
too youre stockes and stonys / and yet you thynke youre selfe suffycyently dyschargyd / by cause that men calle them noo goodes It foloweth / They sett noo hope in them Than what nede men too praye vn to them what nede mē to aske peticyons off them what nede men to offer vnto thē what nede men to vowe to thē what nede men to runne to them barefottyd an bareleggyd / and to kysse them and lycke them do they aske that thing of thē which they haue no hope to reseue by them / than doo they mocke them / It foloweth but they praye vn to them worsshypp them / how thinke yov by thys yov saye they be no godes and yet men praye vnto them and worsshyp them / adde to this that the lattyn worde sygnifith as muche as to aske forgeuenes of them / and fullye and affectuallye to pray to them / iff this stond with faith / and with the honour of god / lett everye Christen mā iudge / but how stondeth yt with youre decre where in yov calle them no godes this is as muche to saye as yov be very hypocrytes and dyssemblers with god and man / for yov say won thinge in wordes and compelle the people to do the contrary in dedes / that is to honour them as godes / is not this contrary to these wordes of scripture / thou shalte honour thy lorde god and serue him wonly Marke the holy gost saithe thou shalte serue god wonly Matt. 4. Here is the selfe lattyn worde / adorare / that youre decre hath / scripture wylle yt shall alle wonly be geuen to god / ād yov wylle geue yt to youre worsshypfulle ymages / marke also the occasion that oure Master Christ spake these wordes / the deuylle requyered that he shulde falle dovne and honour him / he requyered no faith / nor no hope on hym nor yet that he shulde make any prayers or desyer any peticion of him or lycke or kysse his fote / or make any oblacion to him / but allonly to faulle dovne / and so with exterior seruyce to honour him / but oure master said that that belongeth alonly to god and neyther to the deuyll nor yet to youre worsshyppfulle ymages / now saye of youre consciens doo not yov that same thynge to youre stockes and stonys / that the devylle rerequyred of oure master Christe how cane yov avoyd this but now cōmeth youre glosse with a distinccion and wille lerne oure Master christ how that he shall honour the deuyle and excusse him with an idylle and a damnable distincciō whose wordes be these / there is cultus latrie / Glossa de conse Di. 3. c. venerabiles which includeth .iij. thinges in him loue / multitude of sacrifice / and veneracyon this belongeth wonly to god saith he / ther is an other worsshippinge which is called dulia / and this hathe but won thing in him that is veneracion / and it hathe neyther loue nor multitude of sacrifice in yt and this belongeth to alle creatures c̄ Vvhat be these but an hepe of ydylle wordes wyth out any sentens invented of the devylle to dysseue symple men by Here say yov that cultus latrie which includeth loue / multitude of sacrifice / and veneracion belongeth to god wonly / tell me of youre consciens are yov not a shamed off these wordes Fere yov not the vengeance off god that thus mocke and tryfylle bothe wyth god and man There cane be nothing more agēste yov than these wordes be / for fyrst doo yov not loue youre images and youre sayntes Secondarilye doo yov not offer to them calle yov that no sacryfyce ye it is so muche that yov cane hāge no more on them / Thyrdly do not yov geue veneracion vnto them yee and that with alle youre hartes / or els be yov hypocrites and dyssemblars / so that yov geue to youre stockes stones cultum latrie / which by youre awne distynccyon be longeth to god wonly / how cane yov now avoyd idolatry Now to the seconde parte of youre dystynccion / yov say that yov do to saynctes and to alle creaturs the worshuppyng of dulya / which is with out loue / and with out the multytude of sacrifice / what call yov thys what mene yov by this what worshyppyng is thys that is with out love / and with out sacrifice / is not this open hipocrisy to honour a thinge outwardly and neyther to loue yt nor to fauor it inwardly / nor yet to offer any sacrifice vn to it / Matt. 27. this is nothing els but open mokkynge I may well compare yov vnto the wykkyd Iuys that chrouched and kneled vnto christe / but they dyd yt neyther of love nor fauoure but of mokkage as yov doo honour youre sayntes ād ymages This commeth all ways to them that wylle mocke and tryfylle with godes holy worde / that whane they thynke to a voyde yt with a damnable distynccion / than is yt most agenste them so that alle christen men may see / that the hande of god is here De media v●la 4. sēt Also an other bald reason yov haue which is of Master Rychard / yf sayntes whane they were here and not confyrmed in grace did of their cheryte praye for vs / ergo now must they pray muche more seyng they are now confermed in cheryte c̄ Is not this a goodly baulde reason to caste at a bisshoppes cure Howe cane he proue this what scripture hathe he for hym I heare welle his carnalle reason but I heare no probacion I wylle make hym lyke reason The saynctes whane they were here dyd of their cheryte clothe naked men and fede the hungery and gaue drinke to the thursty / and vysytted them that were in preson / ergo much more nowe for they be confyrmed in cheryte and these be dedes of cherite Lykewyse S. Paule whane he was here dyd of his cherite wryght pystylles to declare the veryte / ergo now must he muche more wryght / so that where a fore he wrotte but won pystylle now muste he at the lest wryte thre / or els he is not confyrmed in cheryte / and I thinke he dyd neuer a greter dede of cherite / than now to write a pistle and to declare his awne pystilles for alle the world is at variaunce / for vnderstondinge of them yov blynde gydes who hath lerned yov to declare where in the cherite of saynctes dothe stonde who hathe geuen yov auctorite to geue a dede of cherite vnto sayntes that scripture dothe not geue / wherefore is it a dede of cherite for won to praye for an other is there any other cause than that the holie goste so declared it in his worde / wherefore that is cherite in this lyffe that the worde of god byddeth yov do and as for the workes that cherite shall haue in an other lyffe yt belongeth not to yov to iudge forther than the
not him selfe good / and now that he is evill shall he saye I make my selfe good c̄ 83. Austyne sayth he that fedeth with out christ / fed●th agenst hym 85. Austi sayth on this text if yov mortefye the flesh c̄ Thou wilt saye that can my will do that can mi frewill do what wil what maner of frewill excepte that he gyde the thou fallest / excepte he lifte the vp thou lyest stil / how canst thou than do it by thy sprete / seynge that the apostle sayth / As many as be led by the sprete of god / be the childern of god / wilt thou do of thy selfe wilt thou be led of thyne awne selfe to mortefye the dedes of the flesh what wil it profite the for if thou be not voluptuous with the epicure thow shalt be proude with the stoikes whether thou bean epicure or a stoike Thou salt not be amōge the children of god for they that be gyded of the sprete of god be the children of god / not they that lyue after their awne flesh / not they that lyue after their awne spirite / not they that be led of their awne sprete / but as many as be led of the sprete of god / they be the children of god / But here a man will saye / Ergo than are we ruled ād we do not rule / I answere thou both rulest and arte ruled / but than dost thou well rule if thou be ruled of the good sprete / vtterlye if thou want the sprete of god thou canst doo no good Thou doest trulye with out his helpe by thy frewyl but yt is but evill done / vnto that is thy will which is called frewill and by evell doynge is she made a damnable bonde seruant whan I saye with out the helpe of god thou doste nothinge / I vnderstonde by yt no good thynge / for to doo evyl thou hast frewill with out the helpe of god though that be no fredome Vvherfore you shalle knowe that so do you goodnes yf the helpinge sprete be youre gyder / the which yf he be absent can do no good at all / c̄ lxxxv Austyne sayth / if man doo perceyue that in the commandementes is any thynge impossible or els to harde / let him not remayne in hym selfe / but let hym runne to god hys helpe the whych hath geuen his commandimentes for that entent that oure desyer might be sturred vp and that he myght geue helpe lxxxvij Austayne saith / The pelagianes thinke that they knowe a wōders thynge whā they saye / God wil not commaunde that thinge the which he knoweth that is īpossible for mā to do / euerie mā knoweth this / but therfore cōmaūdeth he certē thynges that we can not do / because we myght knowe what thynge we ought to aske of hym / fayth is she which by prayer optayneth that thynge that the lawe commaundeth Breuelye he that saith yf thou wilt thou mayst kepe my commaundimentes / In the same boke a lytle after sayth / he shal geue me kepinge in mi mouth / Playne it is that we maye kepe the commaundmētes if we wyl / but because oute wil is p̄pared of god / of him must it be asked that we may so moch will / as wil suffice vs to do them trouth it is that we will whan we will / but he maketh vs to will that thinge that is goode lxxxvij Austyne sayth the pelagianes saye that they graunt how the grace doth helpe every mānes good purposse / but not that he geueth the love of vertue to him that striueth agenste it This thinge doo they saye as though mā of him selfe with out the help of god hath a good purpose a good minde vn to vertu / by that which merite precedinge a fore / he is worthye to be holpē of the grace of god that foloweth after Doutles the grace that foloweth doth helpe the good purposse of man / but the good purposse shulde never haue bene if grace had not p̄ceded And though that the good studye of man whan it beginneth is holpen of grace / yet dyd it never beginne with out grace lxxxviij xcj. Austyne sayth / the grace which is geuen of the largenes of god prevelye in to mennes hartes / can not be dispysed of no maner of hard harte For therfore is it geuen that the hardnes of the harte shuld be taken awaye wherfore when the father is harde with in and doth lerne that we muste come to his sonne / than taketh he awaye oure stonye harte and geueth vs a fleshye harte / and by these meanes he maketh vs the children of promisse the vessels of mercie whiche he hath prepared to glory But wherfore doth he not lerne all men to come to christ Because that those that he lerneth / he lerneth of mercye / and those that he lerneth not of his iudgement doth he not lerne them c̄ lxxxix Austyne saith / the law was geuen that mā might finde him selfe / and not to make his sicknes hole / but that by his preaching the sickenes encresed / the physicyon mighte be sought wherefore the lawe thretenynge and not fulfyllynge that thinge that he commaundeth maketh a man to be vnderneth him But the lawe is good if a mā vse yt welle By the lawe to knowe oure sicknes and to seke godes helpe to helpe vs xcj. Austyne saythe / the disputacion of them is vayne which defende the prescience of god agenst the grace of god / whiche saye that we were chosen a fore the makynge of the worlde because that he knewe a fore that we shulde be good not be cause he shulde make vs good but Christ / that sayeth yov haue not chosyn me / saith not that For if he dyd therfore chose vs because that he knewe a fore that we shulde be good / than must he also knowe afore that we shulde fyrst haue chosyn him c̄ xcvj Austyne sayeth / my brothren reade holie scripture in that which yov shalle fynde what you ought to holde and what yov ought to flye what is a man reputed with out lernyng / what is he Is he not a shepe or a goote Is he not an oxe or an asse Is he anye better thā an horse or a mule the whyche hath no vnderstondynge c̄ C.vij Austyne vppon this texte Matthewe .xxiij. the scribes and pharises sytte in Moyses sete c̄ sayth / by syttinge in the chayre is vnderstonde lernynge of the lawe of god / and therfore god doth teach by them but if they wyll teach their awne doctrine / heare it not / doo it not / for such men seke that that is theirs and not christes c̄ C.xviij. Austine vppō the wordes of the apostle / touch not handel not c̄ Col. 2 saithe / because that those mē by such obseruacions were led from the verite by the whiche they were made fre / wherof yt is spoken / the veryte shal delyver yov Ioā viij It is a