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A43469 Some plain letters in the defence of infant baptism and of the mode of baptizing (now generally used in the Church of England), which may serve, for a confutation of a small treatise entituled The reason why not infant-sprinkling, but believers-baptism ought to be approved, &c. Hewerdine, Thomas, 1659 or 60-1738? 1699 (1699) Wing H1630; ESTC R5896 62,852 138

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