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A03590 Of the lavves of ecclesiasticall politie eight bookes. By Richard Hooker.; Ecclesiastical polity. Books 1-4 Hooker, Richard, 1553 or 4-1600.; Spenser, John, 1559-1614. 1604 (1604) STC 13713; ESTC S120914 286,221 214

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cured They saw that to liue by one mans will became the cause of all mens misery This constrained them to come vnto lawes wherein all men might see their duties before hand and know the penalties of transgressing them b If things be simply good or euill and withall vniuersally so acknowledged there needs no new law to be made for such things The first kind therefore of things appointed by lawes humane containeth whatsoeuer being in it selfe naturally good or euill is notwithstanding more secret then that it can be discerned by euery mans present conceipt without some deeper discourse and iudgement In which discourse because there is difficultie and possibilitie many waies to erre vnlesse such things were set downe by lawes many would be ignorant of their duties which now are not many that know what they should do would neuerthelesse dissemble it and to excuse themselues pretend ignorance and simplicitie which now they cannot And because the greatest part of men are such as prefer their owne priuate good before all things euen that good which is sensuall before whatsoeuer is most diuine for that the labor of doing good together with the pleasure arising from the cōtrary doth make men for the most part slower to the one proner to the other then that dutie prescribed them by law can preuaile sufficiently with them therefore vnto lawes that men do make for the benefit of mē it hath seemed alwaies needful to ad rewards which may more allure vnto good then any hardnes deterreth from it punishments which may more deterre from euil then any sweetnes therto allureth Wherin as the generalitie is naturall Vertue rewardable and vice punishable so the particular determination of the rewarde or punishment belongeth vnto them by whom lawes are made Theft is naturally punishable but the kinde of punishment is positiue and such lawfull as men shall thinke with discretion conuenient by lawe to appoint In lawes that which is naturall bindeth vniuersally that which is positiue not so To let goe those kind of positiue lawes which men impose vpon thēselues as by vow vnto God contract with men or such like somewhat it will make vnto our purpose a little more fully to cōsider what things are incident into the making of the positiue lawes for the gouernment of thē that liue vnited in publique societie Lawes do not onely teach what is good but they inioyne it they haue in thē a certain cōstraining force And to cōstraine mē vnto any thing inconuenient doth seeme vnreasonable Most requisite therefore it is that to deuise lawes which all men shal be forced to obey none but wise mē be admitted Lawes are matters of principall consequence men of cōmon capacitie but ordinary iudgemēt are not able for how should they to discerne what things are fittest for each kind and state of regiment Wee cannot be ignorant how much our obedience vnto lawes dependeth vpon this point Let a man though neuer so iustly oppose himselfe vnto thē that are disordered in their waies what one amongst them commonly doth not stomacke at such contradiction storme at reproofe and hate such as would reforme them Notwithstanding euen they which brooke it worst that men should tell them of their duties when they are told the same by a lawe thinke very wel reasonably of it For why They presume that the lawe doth speake with all indifferencie that the lawe hath no side respect to their persons that the law is as it were an oracle proceeded from wisedome and vnderstanding Howbeit laws do not take their constraining force frō the qualitie of such as deuise them but from that power which doth giue them the strength of lawes That which we spake before concerning the power of gouernment must here be applyed vnto the power of making lawes wherby to gouerne which power God hath ouer all and by the naturall lawe whereunto hee hath made all subiect the lawfull power of making lawes to commaund whole politique societies of men belongeth so properly vnto the same intire societies that for any Prince or potentate of what kinde soeuer vpon earth to exercise the same of himselfe and not either by expresse commission immediatly and personally receiued from God or else by authoritie deriued at the first frō their consent vpon whose persons they impose lawes it is no better then meere tyrannie Lawes they are not therefore which publique approbation hath not made so But approbation not only they giue who personally declare their assent by voice sign or act but also whē others do it in their names by right originally at the least deriued from them As in parliaments councels the like assemblies although we be not personally our selues present notwithstanding our assent is by reasō of others agents there in our behalfe And what we do by others no reason but that it should stand as our deede no lesse effectually to binde vs then if our selues had done it in person In many things assent is giuen they that giue it not imagining they do so because the manner of their assenting is not apparent As for example when an absolute Monark commandeth his subiects that which seemeth good in his owne discretion hath not his edict the force of a law whether they approue or dislike it Againe that which hath bene receiued long sithence and is by custome now established we keep as a law which we may not transgresse yet what consent was euer thereunto sought or required at our hands Of this point therefore we are to note that sith men naturally haue no ful perfect power to commaund whole politique mul●itudes of men therefore vtterly without our consent we could in such sort be at no mans commandement liuing And to be commanded we do consent when that societie wherof we are part hath at any time before consented without reuoking the same after by the like vniuersall agreement Wherfore as any mans deed past is good as long as himself continueth so the act of a publique societie of men done fiue hundred yeares sithence standeth as theirs who presently are of the same societies because corporations are immortall we were then aliue in our predecessors and they in their successors do liue stil. Lawes therefore humaine of what kinde soeuer are auaileable by consent If here it be demaunded how it commeth to passe that this being common vnto all lawes which are made there should be found euen in good lawes so great varietie as there is wee must note the reason hereof to bee the sundry particular endes whereunto the different disposition of that subiect or matter for which lawes are prouided causeth them to haue especiall respect in making lawes A lawe there is mentioned amongst the Graecians whereof Pittacus is reported to haue bene author And by that lawe it was agreed that hee which being ouercome with drinke did then strike any man should suffer punishment double as much as if hee had done the same being sober
number gaue essence and being to the workes of nature A thing in reason impossible which notwithstanding through their misfashioned preconceipt appeared vnto them no lesse certaine then if nature had written it in the very foreheads of all the creatures of God When they of the family of loue haue it once in their heads that Christ doth not signifie any one person but a qualitie whereof many are partakers that to be raised is nothing else but to be regenerated or indued with the said quality and that when separation of them which haue it from them which haue it not is here made this is iudgement how plainely do they imagine that the Scripture euery where speaketh in the fauour of that sect And assuredly the very cause which maketh the simple and ignorant to thinke they euen see how the word of God runneth currantly on your side is that their minds are forestalled and their conceits peruerted before hand by being taught that an Elder doth signifie a lay man admitted onely to the office of rule or gouernement in the Church a Doctor one which may only teach and neither preach nor administer the Sacraments a Deacon one which hath charge of the almes boxe and of nothing else that the Scepter the rod the throne kingdome of Christ are a forme of regiment onely by Pastors Elders Doctors and Deacons that by mysticall resemblance mount Sion and Jerusalem are the Churches which admit Samaria and Babylon the Churches which oppugne the said forme of regimēt And in like sort they are taught to apply al things spoken of repairing the wals and decayed parts of the city temple of God by Esdras Nehemias the rest as if purposely the holy Ghost had therein ment to foresignifie what the authors of admonitions to the Parliament of supplications to the Councell of petitions to her Maiesty and of such other like writs should either do or suffer in behalfe of this their cause From hence they proceed to an higher point which is the perswading of men credulous ouer capable of such pleasing errors that it is the speciall illumination of the holy Ghost whereby they discerne those things in the word which others reading yet discerne them not Dearly beloued saith S. Iohn Giue not credit vnto euery Spirit There are but two wayes whereby the spirit leadeth men into 〈◊〉 truth the one extraordinarie the other common the one belonging but vnto some few the other extending it selfe vnto all that are of God the one that which we call by a speciall diuine excellency Reuelation the other Reason If the Spirit by such reuelation haue discouered vnto thē the secrets of that discipline out of Scripture they must professe themselues to be all euen men women and children Prophets Or if reason be the hand which the Spirit hath led them by for as much as perswasions grounded vpon reason are either weaker or stronger according to the force of those reasons whereupon the same are grounded they must euery of them from the greatest to the least be able for euery seuerall article to shewe some special reason as strong as their perswasion therin is earnest Otherwise how can it be but that some other sinewes there are from which that ouerplus of strength in perswasion doth arise Most sure it is that when mens affections do frame their opinions they are in defence of error more earnest a great deale then for the most part sound belieuers in the maintenance of truth apprehended according to the nature of that euidence which Scripture yeeldeth which being in some things plaine as in the principles of Christian doctrine in some things as in these matters of discipline more darke and doubtfull frameth correspondently that inward assent which Gods most gracious Spirit worketh by it as by his effectuall instrument It is not therefore the feruent earnestnes of their perswasion but the soundnes of those reasons whereupon the same is built which must declare their opinions in these things to haue bene wrought by the holy Ghost and not by the fraud of that euill Spirit which is euen in his illusions strong After that the phancie of the common sort hath once throughly apprehended the Spirit to be author of their perswasion concerning discipline then is instilled into their hearts that the same Spirit leading men into this opinion doth thereby seale them to be Gods children and that as the state of the times now standeth the most speciall token to know them that are Gods owne from others is an earnest affection that way This hath bred high termes of separation betweene such and the rest of the world whereby the one sort are named The●rethren ●rethren The godly and so forth the other worldlings timeseruers pleasers of men not of God with such like From hence they are easily drawne on to thinke it exceeding necessarie for feare of quenching that good Spirit to vse all meanes whereby the same may be both strengthned in themselues and made manifest vnto others This maketh them diligent hearers of such as are knowne that way to incline this maketh them eager to take and to seeke all occasions of secret conference with such this maketh them glad to vse such as Counsellors and directors in all their dealings which are of waight as contracts testaments and the like this maketh them through an vnweariable desire of receiuing instruction from the maisters of that companie to cast off the care of those verie affaires which do most concerne their estate and to thinke that then they are like vnto Marie commendable for making choyce of the better part Finally this is it which maketh them willing to charge yea oftentimes euen to ouercharge themselues for such mens sustenance and reliefe least their zeale to the cause should any way be vnwitnessed For what is it which poore beguiled soules will not do through so powerfull incitements In which respect it is also noted that most labour hath bene bestowed to win and retaine towards this cause them whose iudgements are commonly weakest by reason of their sex And although not women loden with sinnes as the Apostle S. Paul speaketh but as we verily esteeme of them for the most part women propense and inclinable to holines be otherwise edified in good things rather then caried away as captiues into any kind of sinne and euill by such as enter into their houses with purpose to plant there a zeale and a loue towards this kind of discipline yet some occasion is hereby ministred for men to thinke that if the cause which is thus furthered did gaine by the soundnes of proofe wherupon it doth build it selfe it would not most busily endeuor to preuaile where least hability of iudgement is and therefore that this so eminent industry in making proselytes more of that sex then of the other groweth for that they are deemed apter to serue as instruments and helps in the cause Apter they are through the eagernes of their affection
〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Thus much acknowledged by Mercurius Trismegist 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Thus much cōfest by Anaxagoras Plato terming the maker of the world an Intellectual worker Finally the Stoikes although imagining the first cause of all things to be fire held neuerthelesse that the same fire hauing arte did 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 They all confesse therfore in the working of that first cause that counsell is vsed reason followed a way obserued that is to say constant order and law is kept wherof it selfe must needs be author vnto it selfe Otherwise it should haue some worthier and higher to direct it and so could not it selfe be the first Being the first it can haue no other then it selfe to be the author of that law which it willingly worketh by God therefore is a law both to himselfe and to all other things besides To himselfe he is a law in all those things whereof our Sauiour speaketh saying My Father worketh as yet so I. God worketh nothing without cause All those things which are done by him haue some ende for which they are done and the ende for which they are done is a reason of his will to do them His will had not inclined to create woman but that he saw it could not be wel if she were not created Non est bonum It is not good man should be alone Therfore let vs make an helper for him That and nothing else is done by God which to leaue vndone were not so good If therfore it bee demanded why God hauing power hability infinit th' effects notwithstāding of that power are all so limited as wee see they are the reason hereof is the end which he hath proposed and the lawe whereby his wisedome hath stinted th' effects of his power in such sort that it doth not worke infinitely but correspōdently vnto that end for which it worketh euen al things 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 in most decent and comely sort all things in measure number waight The generall ende of Gods external working is the exercise of his most glorious and most abundant vertue Which abundance doth shew it selfe in varietie and for that cause this varietie is oftentimes in scripture exprest by the name of riches The Lord hath made all things for his owne sake Not that any thing is made to be beneficial vnto him but all things for him to shew beneficence and grace in them The particular drift of euery acte proceeding externally from God we are not able to discerne and therefore cannot alwaies giue the proper and certaine reason of his works Howbeit vndoubtedly a proper and certaine reason there is of euery finite worke of God in as much as there is a law imposed vpon it which if there were not it should be infinite euen as the worker himselfe is They erre therfore who think that of the will of God to doe this or that there is no reason besides his will Many times no reason knowne to vs but that there is no reason thereof I iudge it most vnreasonable to imagine in as much as hee worketh all things 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 not onely according to his owne will but the counsell of his owne will And whatsoeuer is done with counsell or wise resolution hath of necessitie some reason why it should be done albeit that reason bee to vs in somethings so secret that it forceth the wit of man to stand as the blessed Apostle himself doth amazed therat O the depth of the riches both of the wisdome and knowledge of God How vnsearchable are his iudgements c That law eternall which God himself hath made to himselfe and therby worketh all things wherof he is the cause and author that law in the admirable frame wherof shineth with most perfect beautie the countenance of that wisdome which hath testified concerning her self The lord possessed me in the beginning of his way euē before his works of old I was set vp that lawe which hath bene the patterne to make and is the Carde to guide the world by that law which hath bene of God and with God euerlastingly that law the author and obseruer whereof is one only God to be blessed for euer how should either men or Angels be able perfectly to behold The booke of this law we are neither able nor worthy to open and looke into That little thereof which we darkly apprehend we admire the rest with religious ignorance we humbly meekly adore Seeing therfore that according to this law he worketh of whom through whom for whom are all things althogh there seeme vnto vs cōfusion disorder in th' affaires of this present world Tamen quon am bonus mund● rector temperat rectè fieri cuncta ne dubites Let no man doubt but that euery thing is wel done because the world is ruled by so good a guide as transgresseth not his owne law then which nothing can be more absolute perfect iust The law wherby he worketh is eternall and therfore can haue no shew or colour of mutability for which cause a part of that law being opened in the promises which God hath made because his promises are nothing else but declarations what God will do for the good of men touching those promises the Apostle hath witnessed that God may as possibly denie himselfe and not be God as faile to performe them And cōcerning the counsel of God he termeth it likewise a thing vnchangeable the counsel of God and that law of God wherof now we speake being one Nor is the freedome of the wil of God any whit abated let or hindered by meanes of this because the impositiō of this law vpō himselfe is his own free volūtary act This law therfore we may name eternal being that order which God before al ages hath set down with himself for himself to do all things by 3 I am not ignorant that by law eternall the learned for the most part do vnderstand the order not which God hath eternally purposed himselfe in all his workes to obserue but rather that which with himselfe he hath set downe as expedient to be kept by all his creatures according to the seuerall conditiō wherwith he hath indued them They who thus are accustomed to speake apply the name of Lawe vnto that onely rule of working which superiour authority in poseth whereas we somewhat more enlarging the sense thereof terme any kind of rule or Canon whereby actions are framed a lawe Now that lawe which as it is laid vp in the bosome of God they call eternall receiueth according vnto the different kinds of things which are subiect vnto it different and sundry kinds of names That part of it which ordereth naturall agēts we call vsually natures law that which Angels doe clearely behold and without any swaruing obserue is a law coelestiall and heauenly the law of reason that which
lesse good was not preferred before a greater that wilfully which cānot be done without the singular disgrace of nature the vtter disturbance of that diuine order wherby the preeminence of chiefest acceptation is by the best things worthily chalenged There is not that good which cōcerneth vs but it hath euidence ●nough for it selfe if reason were diligent to search it out Through neglect thereof abused we are with the shew of that which is not somtimes the subtilty of Satan inueagling vs as it did Eue sometimes the hastinesse of our wils preuenting the more considerate aduice of foūd reasō as in the Apostles whē they no sooner saw what they liked not but they forthwith were desirous of fit frō heauen sometimes the very custome of euil making the hart obdurate against whatsoeuer instructions to the cōtrary as in thē ouer whō our Sauior spake weeping O Ierusalē how often thou wouldst not Still therfore that wherw●th we stand blameable can no way excuse it is In doing euill we prefer a lesse good before a greater the greatnes whereof is by reasō inuestigable may be known The search of knowledge is a thing painful the painfulnes of knowledge is that which maketh the will so hardly inclinable thereunto The root hereof diuine maledictiō wherby the instrumēts being weakned wherwithall the soule especially in reasoning doth worke it preferreth rest in ignorance before wearisome labour to know For a spurre of diligence therefore we haue a naturall thirst after knowledge ingrafted in vs. But by reason of that originall weaknesse in the instruments without which the vnderstanding part is not able in this world by discourse to worke the very conceipt of painefulnesse is as a bridle to stay vs. For which cause the Apostle who knew right well that the wearines of the flesh is an heauy clog to the will striketh mightily vpon this key Awake thou that sleepest Cast off all which presseth downe Watch Labour striue to go forward and to grow in knowledge 8 Wherefore to returne to our former intent of discouering the naturall way whereby rules haue bene found out concerning that goodnes wherewith the wil of man ought to be moued in humaine actions As euery thing naturally and necessarily doth desire the vtmost good and greatest perfection whereof nature hath made it capable euen so man Our felicitie therefore being the obiect and accomplishment of our desire we cannot choose but wish and couet it All particular things which are subiect vnto action the will doth so farre foorth incline vnto as reason iudgeth them the better for vs and consequently the more auaileable to our blisse If reason erre we fall into euill and are so farre forth depriued of the generall perfection we seeke Seeing therefore that for the framing of mens actions the knowledge of good from euill is necessarie it onely resteth that we search how this may be had Neither must we suppose that there needeth one rule to know the good and another the euill by For he that knoweth what is straight doth euen thereby discerne what is crooked because the absence of straightnesse in bodies capable thereof is crookednesse Goodnesse in actions is like vnto straitnesse wherfore that which is done well we terme right For as the straight way is most acceptable to him that trauaileth because by it he commeth soonest to his iourneys end so in action that which doth lye the euenest betweene vs and the end we desire must needes be the fittest for our vse Besides which fitnes for vse there is also in rectitude beauty as contrariwise in obliquity deformity And that which is good in the actions of men doth not onely delight as profitable but as amiable also In which consideration the Grecians most diuinely haue giuen to the actiue perfection of men a name expressing both beauty and goodnesse because goodnesse in ordinary speech is for the most part applied onely to that which is beneficiall But we in the name of goodnesse do here imploy both And of discerning goodnes there are but these two wayes the one the knowledge of the causes whereby it is made such the other the obseruation of those signes and tokens which being annexed alwaies vnto goodnes argue that where they are found there also goodnes is although we know not the cause by force whereof it is there The former of these is the most sure infallible way but so hard that all shunne it and had rather walke as men do in the darke by hap hazard then tread so long and intricate mazes for knowledge sake As therefore Physitians are many times forced to leaue such methods of curing as themselues know to be the fittest and being ouerruled by their patients impatiency are fame to try the best they can in taking that way of cure which the cured will yeeld vnto in like sort cōsidering how the case doth stād with this present age full of tongue weake of braine behold we yeeld to the streame thereof into the causes of goodnes we will not make any curious or deepe inquiry to touch them now then it shal be sufficient when they are so neere at hand that easily they may be conceiued without any farre remoued discourse that way we are contented to proue which being the worse in it selfe is notwithstanding now by reason of common imbecillity the fitter likelier to be brookt Signes and tokens to know good by are of sundry kinds some more certaine and some lesse The most certaine token of euident goodnesse is if the generall perswasion of all men do so account it And therefore a common receiued error is neuer vtterly ouerthrowne till such time as we go from signes vnto causes and shew some manifest root or fountaine thereof common vnto all whereby it may clearly appeare how it hath come to passe that so many haue bene ouerseene In which case surmises and sleight probabilities will not serue because the vniuersall consent of men is the perfectest and strongest in this kind which comprehendeth onely the signes and tokens of goodnesse Things casuall do varie and that which a man doth but chaunce to thinke well of cannot still haue the like hap Wherefore although we know not the cause yet thus much we may know that some necessary cause there is whensoeuer the iudgements of all men generally or for the most part run one the same way especially in matters of naturall discourse For of things necessarily naturally done there is no more affirmed but this They keepe either alwaies or for the most part one tenure The generall and perpetuall voyce of men is as the sentence of God himselfe For that which all men haue at all times learned nature her selfe must needes haue taught and God being the author of nature her voyce is but his instrument By her from him we receiue whatsoeuer in such sort we learne Infinite duties there are the goodnes
as to liue vertuously it is impossible except we liue therefore the first impediment which naturally we endeuor to remoue is penurie and want of thinges without which we cannot liue Vnto life many implements are necessary moe if we seeke as all men naturally doe such a life as hath in it ioy comfort delight and pleasure To this end we see how quickly sundry artes Mechanical were found out in the very prime of the world As things of greatest necessitie are alwaies first prouided for so things of greatest dignitie are most accounted of by all such as iudge rightly Although therefore riches be a thing which euery man wisheth yet no man of iudgement can esteeme it better to be rich then wise vertuous religious If we be both or either of these it is not because we are so borne For into the world we come as emptie of the one as of the other as naked in minde as we are in body Both which necessities of man had at the first no other helpes and supplies then only domesticall such as that which the prophet implieth saying Can a mother forget her child such as that which the Apostle mentioneth saying He that careth not for his owne is worse then an Infidell such as that concerning Abraham Abraham will commaund his sonnes and his household after him that they keepe the way of the Lord. But neither that which we learne of our selues nor that which others teach vs can preuaile where wickednes and malice haue takē deepe roote If therefore when there was but as yet one only family in the world no meanes of instruction humane or diuine could preuent effusion of bloud how could it be chosen but that when families were multiplied and increased vpon earth after seperation each prouiding for it selfe enuy strife cōtention violence must grow amongst thē for hath not nature furnisht man with wit valor as it were with armor which may be vsed as well vnto extreame euill as good yea were they not vsed by the rest of the world vnto euill vnto the contrary only by Seth Enoch and those few the rest in that line We all make complaint of the iniquitie of our times not vniustly for the dayes are euill But compare them with those times wherein there were no ciuil societies with those times wherein there was as yet no maner of publique regimēt established with those times wherin there were not aboue 8. persons righteous liuing vpon the face of the earth and wee haue surely good cause to thinke that God hath blessed vs exceedingly and hath made vs behold most happie daies To take away all such mutuall greeuances iniuries wrongs there was no way but only by growing vnto compositiō and agreement amongst thēselues by ordaining some kind of gouernment publike and by yeelding themselues subiect thereunto that vnto whom they graunted authoritie to rule gouerne by them the peace tranquilitie happy estate of the rest might be procured Men alwaies knew that when force and iniurie was offered they might be defendors of themselues they knew that howsoeuer men may seeke their owne cōmoditie yet if this were done with iniury vnto others it was not to be suffered but by all men and by all good means to be withstood finally they knew that no man might in reason take vpon him to determine his owne right and according to his owne determination proceed in maintenance therof in as much as euery man is towards himselfe and them whom he greatly affecteth partiall and therfore that strifes troubles would bee endlesse except they gaue their common consent all to be ordered by some whom they should agree vpon without which consent there were no reason that one man should take vpon him to be Lord or Iudge ouer an other because although there be according to the opinion of some very great and iudicious men a kind of naturall right in the noble wise and vertuous to gouerne them which are of seruile disposition neuerthelesse for manifestation of this their right mens more peaceable contentment on both sides the assent of them who are to be gouerned seemeth necessarie To fathers within their priuate families nature hath giuen a supreme power for which cause we see throughout the world euen from the first foundation therof all men haue euer bene taken as lords lawfull kings in their own houses Howbeit ouer a whole grand multitude hauing no such dependēcie vpon any one consisting of so many families as euery politique societie in the world doth impossible it is that any should haue complet lawful power but by consent of men or immediate appointment of God because not hauing the naturall superioritie of fathers their power must needs be either vsurped then vnlawfull or if lawfull then either graunted or consented vnto by them ouer whom they exercise the same or else giuen extraordinarily frō God vnto whom all the world is subiect It is no improbable opinion therefore which the Arch-philosopher was of that as the chiefest person in euery houshold was alwaies as it were a king so when numbers of housholds ioyned themselues in ciuill societie together kings were the first kind of gouernors amongst them Which is also as it seemeth the reason why the name of Father continued still in them who of fathers were made rulers as also the ancient custome of gouernors to do as Melchisedec and being kings to exercise the office of priests which fathers did at the first grew perhaps by the same occasion Howbeit not this the only kind of regiment that hath bene receiued in the world The inconueniences of one kinde haue caused sundry other to be deuised So that in a word all publike regimēt of what kind soeuer seemeth euidently to haue risen from deliberate aduice consultation compositiō betweene men iudging it cōuenient behoueful there being no impossibilitie in nature considered by it self but that men might haue liued without any publike regiment Howbeit the corruption of our nature being presupposed we may not deny but that the lawe of nature doth now require of necessitie some kinde of regiment so that to bring things vnto the first course they were in vtterly to take away all kind of publike gouernmēt in the world were apparantly to ouerturn the whole world The case of mans nature standing therfore as it doth some kind of regiment the law of nature doth require yet the kinds therof being many nature tieth not to any one but leaueth the choice as a thing arbitrarie At the first when some certaine kinde of regiment was once approued it may be that nothing was then further thought vpon for the maner of gouerning but all permitted vnto their wisedome and discretion which were to rule till by experience they found this for all parts very inconuenient so as the thing which they had deuised for a remedie did indeede but increase the soare which it should haue
might haue eased them of much aftertrouble But a greater inconuenience it bred that euery later endeuoured to bee certaine degrees more remoued from conformitie with the Church of Rome then the rest before had bene whereupon grew maruellous great dissimilitudes and by reason thereof iealousies hartburnings iarres and discords amongst them Which notwithstanding might haue easily bene preuented if the orders which each Church did thinke fit and conuenient for it selfe had not so peremptorily bene established vnder that high commaunding forme which tendered them vnto the people as things euerlastingly required by the law of that Lord of Lords against whose statutes there is no exception to be taken For by this meane it came to passe that one Church could not but accuse condemne another of disobedience to the wil of Christ in those things where manifest difference was betweene them whereas the selfesame orders allowed but yet established in more warie and suspense maner as being to stand in force till God should giue the opportunitie of some general cōference what might be best for euery of them afterwards to doe this I say had both preuented all occasion of iust dislik● which others might take and reserued a greater libertie vnto the authors themselues of entring into farther consultatiō afterwards Which though neuer so necessary they could not easily now admit without some feare of derogation from their credit and therfore that which once they had done they became for euer after resolute to maintaine Caluin therfore the other two his associats stiffely refusing to administer the holy Communion to such as would not quietly without contradiction and murmur submit themselues vnto the orders which their solemne oath had bound them to obey were in that quarell banished the towne A fewe yeares after such was the leuitie of that people the places of one or two of their Ministers being fallen voyde they were not before so willing to be rid of their learned Pastor as now importunate to obtaine him againe from them who had giuen him entertainment and which were loath to part with him had not vnresistable earnestnes bene vsed One of the towne ministers that sawe in what manner the people were bent for the reuocation of Caluin gaue him notize of their affection in this sort The Senate of two hundred being assembled they all craue Caluin The next day a generall conuocation They crye in like sort againe all VVe will haue Caluin that good and learned man Christs Minister This saith he when I vnderstood I could not choose but praise God nor was I able to iudge otherwise then that this was the Lordes doing and that it was maruellous in our eyes and That the stone which the builders refused was now made the head of the corner The other two whom they had throwne out together with Caluin they were content should enioy their exile Many causes might lead them to bee more desirous of him First his yeelding vnto them in one thing might happily put them in hope that time would breed the like easines of condescending further vnto them For in his absence he had perswaded them with whome he was able to preuaile that albeit himselfe did better like of common bread to bee vsed in the Eucharist yet the other they rather should accept then cause any trouble in the Church about it Againe they saw that the name of Caluin waxed euery day greater abroad and that together with his fame their infamy was spread who had so rashly and childishly eiected him Besides it was not vnlikely but that his credite in the world might many wayes stand the poore towne in great stead as the truth is their ministers forrein estimation hitherto hath bene the best stake in their hedge But whatsoeuer secret respects were likely to moue them for contenting of their mindes Caluin returned as it had bene an other Tully to his olde home He ripely considered how grosse a thing it were for men of his qualitie wise and graue men to liue with such a multitude and to be tenants at will vnder them as their ministers both himselfe and others had bene For the remedie of which inconuenience hee gaue them plainely to vnderstand that if he did become their teacher againe they must be content to admit a complet forme of discipline which both they and also their pastors should now be solemnely sworne to obserue for euer after Of which discipline the maine and principall partes were these A standing ecclesiasticall Court to be established perpetuall Iudges in that Court to be their ministers others of the people annually chosen twise so many in number as they to be iudges together with them in the same Court these two sorts to haue the care of all mens manners power of determining all kind of Ecclesiasticall causes and authoritie to conuent to controll to punish as farre as with excōmunication whomsoeuer they should thinke worthy none eyther small or great excepted This deuise I see not how the wisest at that time liuing could haue bettered if we duly consider what the present estate of Geneua did then require For their Bishop and his Clergie being as it is said departed from them by moonelight or howsoeuer being departed to choose in his roome any other Bishop had beene a thing altogether impossible And for their ministers to seeke that themselues alone might haue coerciue power ouer the whole Church would perhaps haue bene hardly construed at that time But when so franke an offer was made that for euery one minister there should be two of the people to sit and giue voyce in the Ecclesiasticall Consistory what inconuenience could they easily find which themselues might not be able alwayes to remedy Howbeit as euermore the simpler sort are euen when they see no apparant cause iealous notwithstanding ouer the secret intents and purposes of wiser men this proposition of his did somewhat trouble them Of the Ministers themselues which had stayed behinde in the Citie when Caluin was gone some vpon knowledge of the peoples earnest intent to recall him to his place againe had beforehand written their letters of submission and assured him of their alleageance for euer after if it should like him to harken vnto that publique suite But yet misdoubting what might happen if this discipline did goe forwarde they obiected against it the example of other reformed Churches liuing quietly and orderly without it Some of chiefest place and countenance amongst the laitie professed with greater stomacke their iudgements that such a discipline was little better then popish tyrannie disguised and tendered vnto them vnder a new forme This sort it may be had some feare that the filling vp of the seates in the Consistorie with so great a number of lay men was but to please the mindes of the people to the ende they might thinke their owne swaye somewhat but when things came to triall of practise their Pastors learning would bee at all times of force to ouerperswade
simple men who knowing the time of their owne Presidentship to bee but short would alwayes stand in feare of their ministers perpetuall authoritie and among the ministers themselues one being so farre in estimation aboue the rest the voyces of the rest were likely to be giuen for the most part respectiuely with a kinde of secret dependencie and awe so that in shewe a maruellous indifferently composed Senate Ecclesiasticall was to gouerne but in effect one onely man should as the Spirite and soule of the residue doe all in all But what did these vaine surmises boote Brought they were now to so straight an issue that of two thinges they must choose one namely whether they would to their endlesse disgrace with ridiculous lightnes dismisse him whose restitution they had in so impotent maner desired or else condescende vnto that demaund wherein hee was resolute eyther to haue it or to leaue them They thought it better to be somewhat hardly yoked at home then for euer abroad discredited Wherefore in the ende those orders were on all sides assented vnto with no lesse alacritie of minde then Cities vnable to holde out longer are wont to shewe when they take conditions such as it liketh him to offer them which hath them in the narrow streightes of aduantage Not many yeares were ouerpassed before these twice sworne men aduentured to giue their last and hotest assault to the fortresse of the same discipline childishly graunting by comon consent of their whole Senate that vnder their towne seale a relaxation to one Bertelier whom the Eldership had excommunicated further also decreeing with strange absurditie that to the same Senate it should belong to giue finall iudgemēt in matter of excōmunication and to absolue whom it pleased them cleane contrary to their owne former deedes and oaths The report of which decree being forth with brought vnto Caluin Before sayth he this decree take place either my bloud or banishment shall signe it Againe two dayes before the Cōmunion should be celebrated his speech was publiquely to like effect Kill me if euer this hand do reach forth the things that are holy to thē whom THE CHVRCH hath iudged despisers Whereupon for feare of tumult the forenamed Bertelier was by his friends aduised for that time not to vse the liberty granted him by the Senate nor to present himselfe in the Church till they saw somewhat further what would ensue After the Communion quietly ministred and some likelihood of peaceable ending these troubles without any more ado that very day in the afternoone besides all mens expectation concluding his ordinary sermon he telleth them that because he neither had learned nor taught to striue with such as are in authority therefore sayth he the case so standing as now it doth let me vse these words of the Apostle vnto you I commend you vnto God the word of his grace and so bad them hartily all A dew It sometimes commeth to passe that the readiest way which a wise man hath to conquer is to flie This voluntarie and vnexpected mention of sudden departure caused presently the Senate for according to their woonted maner they still continued onely constant in vnconstancy to gather themselues together and for a time to suspend their own decree leauing things to proceed as before till they had heard the iudgement of foure Heluetian Cities concerning the matter which was in strife This to haue done at the first before they gaue assēt vnto any order had shewed some wit discretion in thē but now to do it was as much as to say in effect that they would play their parts on stage Caluin therfore dispatcheth with all expedition his letters vnto some principall pastor in euery of those cities crauing earnestly at their hands to respect this cause as a thing whereupō the whole state of religion piety in that church did so much depend that God all good men were now ineuitably certaine to be trampled vnder foot vnlesse those foure Cities by their good means might be brought to giue sentence with the ministers of Geneua when the cause should be brought before them yea so to giue it that two things it might effectually containe the one an absolute approbation of the discipline of Geneua as consonant vnto the word of God without any cautions qualifications ifs or ands the other an earnest admonition not to innouate or change the same His vehemēt request herein as touching both points was satisfied For albeit the sayd Heluetian Churches did neuer as yet obserue that discipline neuerthelesse the Senate of Geneua hauing required their iudgement concerning these three questions First after what manner by Gods commaundement according to the Scripture and vnspotted religion excommunication is to be exercised Secondly whether it may not be exercised some other way then by the Consistorie Thirdly what the vse of their Churches was to do in this case answer was returned from the sayd Churches That they had heard already of those consistoriall lawes and did acknowledge them to be godly ordinances drawing towards the prescript of the word of God for which cause that they did not thinke it good for the Church of Geneua by innouation to change the same but rather to keepe them as they were Which aunswer although not aunswering vnto the former demaunds but respecting what Maister Caluin had iudged requisite for them to aunswere was notwithstanding accepted without any further reply in as much as they plainely saw that when stomacke doth striue with wit the match is not equall And so the heat of their former contentions began to flake The present inhabitants of Geneua J hope will not take it in euill part that the faltinesse of their people heretofore is by vs so farre forth layd open as their owne learned guides and Pastors haue thought necessarie to discouer it vnto the world For out of their bookes and writings it is that I haue collected this whole narration to the end it might thereby appeare in what sort amongst them that discipline was planted for which so much contention is raised amongst our selues The reasons which mooued Caluin herein to be so earnest was as Beza himselfe testifieth for that he saw how needfull these bridles were to be put in the iawes of that Citie That which by wisedome he saw to be requisite for that people was by as great wisedome compassed But wise men are men and the truth is truth That which Caluin did for establishment of his discipline seemeth more commendable then that which he taught for the countenancing of it established Nature worketh in vs all a loue to our owne counsels The contradiction of others is a fanne to inflame that loue Our loue set on fire to maintaine that which once we haue done sharpeneth the wit to dispute to argue and by all meanes to reason for it Wherefore a maruaile it were if a man of so great capacitie hauing such incitements to make him desirous of
all kind of furtherances vnto his cause could espie in the whole Scripture of God nothing which might breed at the least a probable opinion of likelihood that diuine authority it selfe was the same way somewhat inclinable And all which the wit euen of Caluin was able from thence to draw by sifting the very vtmost sentence and syllable is no more then that certaine speeches there are which to him did seeme to intimate that all Christian Churches ought to haue their Elderships indued with power of excommunication and that a part of those Elderships euery where should be chosen out frō amongst the laitie after that forme which himselfe had framed Geneua vnto But what argument are ye able to shew whereby it was euer prooued by Caluin that any one sentence of Scripture doth necessarily enforce these things or the rest wherein your opinion concurreth with his against the orders of your owne Church We should be iniurious vnto vertue it selfe if we did derogate from them whom their industrie hath made great Two things of principall moment there are which haue deseruedly procured him honour throughout the world the one his exceeding paynes in composing the Institutions of Christian Religion the other his no lesse industrious trauailes for exposition of holy Scripture according vnto the same institutions In which two things who soeuer they were that after him bestowed their labour he gayned the aduantage of preiudice against them if they gaine said and of glorie aboue them if they consented His writings published after the question about that discipline was once begunne omit not any the least occasion of extolling the vse and singular necessitie thereof Of what accompt the Maister of sentences was in the Church of Rome the same and more amongest the Preachers of reformed Churches Caluin had purchased so that the perfectest diuines were iudged they which were skilfullest in Caluins writings His bookes almost the very Canon to iudge both doctrine and discipline by French Churches both vnder others abroad and at home in their owne Countrey all cast according vnto that mould which Caluin had made The Church of Scotland in erecting the fabricke of their reformation tooke the selfe same paterne Till at length the discipline which was at the first so weake that without the staffe of their approbation who were not subiect vnto it themselues it had not brought others vnder subiection beganne now to challenge vniuersall obedience and to enter into open conflict with those very Churches which in desperate extremitie had bene relieuers of it To one of those Churches which liued in most peaceable sort and abounded as well with men for their learning in other professions singular as also with diuines whose equals were not elsewhere to be found a Church ordered by Gualters discipline and not by that which Geneua adoreth vnto this Church the Church of Heidelberge there commeth one who crauing leaue to dispute publiquely defendeth with open disdaine of their gouernement that To a Minister with his Eldership power is giuen by the law of God to excommunicate whomsoeuer yea euen kings and princes themselues Here were the seedes sowne of that controuersie which sprang vp betweene Beza and Erastus about the matter of excommunication whether there ought to be in all Churches an Eldership hauing power to excommunicate and a part of that Eldership to be of necessitie certaine chosen out from amongest the laity for that purpose In which disputation they haue as to me it seemeth deuided very equally the truth betweene them Beza most truly maintaining the necessitie of excommunication Erastus as truly the nonnecessitie of layelders to be ministers thereof Amongest our selues there was in King Edwards dayes some question moued by reason of a few mens scrupulositie touching certaine things And beyond Seas of them which fled in the dayes of Queene Mary some contenting themselues abroad with the vse of their owne Seruice booke at home authorised before their departure out of the Realme others liking better the Common prayer booke of the Church of Geneua translated those smaller contentions before begun were by this meane somewhat increased Vnder the happy raigne of her Maiesty which now is the greatest matter a while contended for was the wearing of the Cap and Surplesse till there came Admonitions directed vnto the high Court of Parliament by men who concealing their names thought it glory inough to discouer their minds and affections which now were vniuersally bent euen against all the orders and lawes wherein this Church is found vnconformable to the platforme of Geneua Concerning the defendor of which admonitions all that I meane to say is but this There will come a time when three words vttered with charitie and meeknesse shall receiue a farre more blessed reward then three thousand volumes written with disdainefull sharpnes of wit But the maner of mens writing must not alienate our hearts from the truth if it appeare they haue the truth as the followers of the same defendor do thinke he hath and in that perswasion they follow him no otherwise then himselfe doth Calvin Beza and others with the like perswasion that they in this cause had the truth We being as fully perswaded otherwise it resteth that some kind of tryall be vsed to find out which part is in error 3 The first meane whereby nature teacheth men to iudge good from euill as well in lawes as in other things is the force of their owne discretion Hereunto therefore Saint Paule referreth oftentimes his owne speech to be considered of by them that heard him I speake as to them which haue vnderstanding iudge ye what I say Againe afterward Iudge in your selues is it comely that a woman pray vncouered The exercise of this kind of iudgement our Sauiour requireth in the Iewes In them of Berea the Scripture commendeth it Finally whatsoeuer we do if our owne secret iudgement consent nor vnto it as fit and good to be done the doing of it to vs is sinne although the thing it selfe be allowable Saint Paules rule therefore generally is Let euery man in his owne minde be fully perswaded of that thing which he either alloweth or doth Some things are so familiar and plaine that truth from falshood and good from euill is most easily discerned in them euen by men of no deepe capacitie And of that nature for the most part are things absolutely vnto all mens saluation necessarie either to be held or denied either to be done or auoided For which cause Saint Augustine acknowledgeth that they are not onely set downe but also plainely set downe in Scripture so that he which heareth or readeth may without any great difficultie vnderstand Other things also there are belonging though in a lower degree of importance vnto the offices of Christian men which because they are more obscure more intricate and hard to be iudged of therefore God hath appointed some to spend their whole time principally in the studie of things diuine to
the end that in these more doubtfull cases their vnderstanding might be a light to direct others If the vnderstanding power or facultie of the soule be sayth the grand Phisitian like vnto bodily sight not of equall sharpnesse in all what can be more conuenient then that euen as the darke-sighted man is directed by the cleare about things visible so likewise in matters of deeper discourse the wise in heart do shew the simple where his way lyeth In our doubtfull cases of law what man is there who seeth not how requisite it is that professors of skill in that facultie be our directors So it is in all other kinds of knowledge And euen in this kind likewise the Lord hath himselfe appointed that the Priests lips should preserue knowledge and that other men should seeke the truth at his mouth because he is the messenger of the Lord of Hosts Gregory Nazianzene offended at the peoples too great presumption in controlling the iudgement of them to whom in such cases they should haue rather submitted their owne seeketh by earnest intreatie to stay them within their bounds Presume not ye that are sheepe to make your selues guides of them that should guide you neither seeke ye to ouerskip the fold which they about you haue pitched It sufficeth for your part if ye can well frame your selues to be ordered Take not vpon you to iudge your selues nor to make them subiect to your lawes who should be a law to you For God is not a God of sedition and confusion but of order and of peace But ye will say that if the guides of the people be blind the common sort of men must not close vp their owne eyes and be led by the conduct of such if the Priest be partiall in the law the flocke must not therefore depart from the wayes of sincere truth and in simplicitie yeeld to be followers of him for his place sake and office ouer them Which thing though in it selfe most true is in your defence notwithstanding weake because the matter wherein ye thinke that yee see and imagine that your wayes are sincere is of farre deeper consideration then any one amongest fiue hundred of you conceiueth Let the vulgar sort amongst you know that there is not the least branch of the cause wherin they are so resolute but to the triall of it a great deale more appertaineth then their conceipt doth reach vnto I write not this in disgrace of the simplest that way giuen but I would gladly they knewe the nature of that cause wherein they thinke themselues throughly instructed and are not by meanes whereof they daily run themselues without feeling their owne hazard vppon the d●nt of the Apostles sentence against euill speakers as touching things wherein they are ignorant If it be graunted a thing vnlawfull for priuate men not called vnto publique consultation to dispute which is the best state of ciuill Policie with a desire of bringing in some other kind then that vnder which they already liue for of such disputes I take it his meaning was if it be a thing confest that of such questions they cannot determine without rashnesse in as much as a great part of them consisteth in speciall circumstances and for one kind as many reasons may be brought as for another is there any reason in the world why they should better iudge what kind of regiment Ecclesiasticall is the fittest For in the Ciuill state more insight and in those affaires more experience a great deale must needes be graunted them then in this they can possibly haue When they which write in defence of your discipline and commend it vnto the Highest not in the least cunning manner are forced notwithstanding to acknowledge that with whom the truth is they knowe not they are not certaine what certainty or knowledge can the multitude haue thereof Waigh what doth mooue the common sort so much to fauour this innouation and it shall soone appeare vnto you that the force of particular reasons which for your seuerall opinions are alleaged is a thing whereof the multitude neuer did nor could so consider as to be there with wholly caried but certaine generall inducements are vsed to make saleable your Cause in grosse and when once men haue cast a phancie towards it any slight declaration of specialties will serue to lead forward mens inclinable and prepared minds The methode of winning the peoples affection vnto a generall liking of the Cause for so ye terme it hath bene this First in the hearing of the multitude the faults especially of higher callings are ripped vp with maruellous exceeding seuerity and sharpnesse of reproofe which being oftentimes done begetteth a great good opinion of integritie zeale holinesse to such cōstant reproouers of sinne as by likelihood would neuer be so much offended at that which is euill vnlesse themselues were singularly good The next thing hereunto is to impute all faults and corruptions wherewith the world aboundeth vnto the kind of Ecclesiasticall gouernement established Wherin as before by reprouing faults they purchased vnto themselues with the multitude a name to be vertuous so by finding out this kind of cause they obtaine to be iudged wise aboue others whereas in truth vnto the forme euen of Iewish gouernement which the Lord himselfe they all confesse did establish with like shew of reason they might impute those faults which the Prophets condemne in the gouernors of that common wealth as to the English kind of regiment Ecclesiasticall whereof also God himselfe though in other sort is author the staines and blemishes found in our State which springing from the root of humaine frailty and corruption not only are but haue bene alwaies more or lesse yea and for any thing we know to the contrary will be till the worlds end complained of what forme of gouernement soeuer take place Hauing gotten thus much sway in the hearts of men a third step is to propose their owne forme of Church gouernement as the onely soueraigne remedy of all euils and to adorne it with all the glorious titles that may be And the nature as of men that haue sicke bodies so likewise of the people in the crazednes of their minds possest with dislike and discontentment at things present is to imagine that any thing the vertue wherof they here commended would helpe them but that most which they least haue tried The fourth degree of inducements is by fashioning the very notions conceipts of mens minds in such sort that when they read the Scripture they may thinke that euery thing soundeth towards the aduancement of that discipline and to the vtter disgrace of the contrary Pythagoras by bringing vp his Schollers in the speculatiue knowledge of numbers made their conceipts therein so strong that when they came to the contemplation of things naturall they imagined that in euery particular thing they euen beheld as it were with their eyes how the elements of
them to the contrary 7. Nor is mine owne intent any other in these seuerall bookes of discourse then to make it appeare vnto you that for the ecclesiasticall lawes of this land we are led by great reason to obserue them and ye by no necessitie bound to impugne them It is no part of my secret meaning to draw you hereby into hatred or to set vpō the face of this cause any fairer glasse then the naked truth doth afford but my whole endeuour is to resolue the conscience and to shew as neare as I can what in this controuersie the hart is to thinke if it will follow the light of sound and sincere iudgement without either clowd of preiudice or mist of passionate affection Wherefore seeing that lawes and ordinances in particular whether such as we obserue or such as your selues would haue established when the minde doth sift and examine them it must needes haue often recourse to a number of doubts and questions about the nature kindes and qualities of lawes in generall whereof vnlesse it be throughly enformed there will appeare no certaintie to stay our perswasion vpon I haue for that cause set downe in the first place an introduction on both sides needfull to bee considered Declaring therein what law is how different kindes of lawes there are and what force they are of according vnto each kind This done because ye suppose the lawes for which ye striue are found in scripture but those not against which we striue vpon this surmise are drawne to hold it as the very maine pillar of your whole cause that scripture ought to be the onely rule of all our actions and consequently that the Church-orders which wee obserue being not commaunded in scripture are offensiue and displeasant vnto God I haue spent the second booke in sifting of this point which standeth with you for the first and chiefest principle whereon ye build Wherevnto the next in degree is that as God will haue alwayes a Church vpon earth while the worlde doth continue and that Church stand in neede of gouernment of which gouernment it behoueth himselfe to bee both the author and teacher so it cannot stand with dutie that man should euer presume in any wise to chaunge and alter the same and therefore That in Scripture there must of necessitie be found some particular forme of politie Ecclesiasticall the lawes whereof admit not any kinde of alteration The first three bookes being thus ended the fourth proceedeth from the generall grounds and foundations of your cause vnto your generall accusations against vs as hauing in the orders of our Church for so you pretend corrupted the right forme of Church politie with manifolde popish rites and ceremonies which certaine reformed Churches haue banished from amongst them and haue thereby giuen vs such examples as you thinke wee ought to follow This your assertion hath herein drawne vs to make search whether these bee iust exceptions against the customes of our Church when ye pleade that they are the same which the Church of Rome hath or that they are not the same which some other reformed Churches haue deuised Of those foure bookes which remaine and are bestowed about the specialties of that cause which lyeth in controuersie the first examineth the causes by you alleaged wherefore the publique duties of Christian religion as our prayers our Sacramants and the rest should not be ordered in such sort as with vs they are nor that power whereby the persons of men are consecrated vnto the ministerie be disposed of in such maner as the lawes of this Church doe allow The second and third are concerning the power of iurisdiction the one whether la● men such as your gouerning Elders are ought in all congregations for euer to bee inuested with that power the other whether Bishops may haue that power ouer other Pastors and there withall that honour which with vs they haue And because besides the power of order which all consecrated persons haue and the power of iurisdiction which neither they all nor they only haue there is a third power a power of Ecclesiasticall Dominion communicable as wee thinke vnto persons not Ecclesiasticall and most fit to be restrained vnto the Prince or Soueraigne commaunder ouer the whole body politique the eight booke we haue allotted vnto this question and haue sifted therein your obiections against those preeminences royall which thereunto appert●ine Thus haue J layd before you the briefe of these my trauailes and presented vnder your view the limmes of that cause litigious betweene vs the whole intier body whereof being thus compact it shall be no troublesome thing for any man to find each particular controuersies resting place and the coherence it hath with those things either on which it dependeth or which depend on it 8. The case so standing therefore my brethren as it doth the wisdome of gouernors ye must not blame in that they further also forecasting the manifold strange dangerous innouations which are more then likely to follow if your discipline should take place haue for that cause thought it hitherto a part of their dutie to withstand your endeuors that way The rather for that they haue seene alreadie some small beginninges of the fruits thereof in them who concurring with you in iudgement aboute the necessitie of that discipline haue aduentured without more adoe to separate themselues from the rest of the Church and to put your speculations in execution These mens hastines the warier sort of you doth not commend yee wish they had held themselues longer in and not so dangerously flowne abroad before the fethers of the cause had beene growne their errour with mercifull terms ye reproue naming them in great commiseration of mind your poore brethren They o● the contrary side more bitterly accuse you as their false brethrē against you they plead saying From your breasts it is that we haue sucked those thinges which when ye deliuered vnto vs ye termed that heauenly sincere and wholesome milke of Gods word howsoeuer yee now abhorre as poyson that which the vertue thereof hath wrought and brought forth in vs. Ye sometime our companions guides and familiars with whome we haue had most sweete consultations are now become our professed aduersaries because wee thinke the statute-congregations in Englande to bee no true Christian Churches because wee haue seuered our selues from them and because without their leaue or licence that are in Ciuill authoritie wee haue secretly framed our owne Churches according to the platforme of the worde of God For of that point betweene you and vs there is no controuersie Alas what would ye haue vs to doe At such time as ye were content to accept vs in the number of your owne your teachinges we heard we read your writinges and though wee would yet able wee are not to forget with what zeale yee haue euer profest that in the English congregations for so many of them as bee ordered according
by your lawes taken away your selues who haue sought them ye so excuse as that ye would haue men to thinke ye iudge them not allowable but tollerable only and to be borne with for some helpe which ye find in them vnto the furtherance of your purposes till the corrupt estate of the Chur●h may be better reformed Your lawes forbidding Ecclesiasticall persons vtterly the exercise of Ciuill power must needs depriue the Heads and Maisters in the same Colledges of all such authoritie as now they exercise either at home by punishing the faults of those who not as children to their parents by the law of Nature but altogether by ciuill authority are subiect vnto them or abroad by keeping Courts amongst their tenants Your lawes making permanent inequalitie amongst Ministers a thing repugnant to the word of God enforce those Colledges the Seniors whereof are all or any part of them Ministers vnder the gouernment of a maister in the same vocation to choose as oft as they meet together a new president For if so ye iudge it necessary to do in Synods for the auoyding of permanent inequality amongst Ministers the same cause must needs euen in these Collegiate assemblies enforce the like Except per aduenture ye meane to auoid all such absurdities by dissoluing those Corporations and by bringing the Vniuersities vnto the forme of the Schoole of Geneua Which thing men the rather are inclined to looke for in as much as the Ministery whereinto their founders with singular prouidence haue by the same statutes appointed them necessarily to enter at a certaine time your lawes bind them much more necessarily to forbeare till some parish abroad call for them Your opinion concerning the law Ciuill is that the knowledge thereof might be spared as a thing which this land doth not need Professors in that kind being few ye are the bolder to spurne at them and not to dissemble your minds as concerning their remoouall in whose studies although my selfe haue not much bene conuersant neuerthelesse exceeding great cause I see there is to wish that thereunto more encouragement were giuen as well for the singular treasures of wisedome therein conteined as also for the great vse we haue thereof both in decision of certaine kinds of causes arising daily within our selues and especially for commerce with Nations abroad whereunto that knowledge is most requisite The reasons wherewith ye would perswade that Scripture is the onely rule to frame all our actions by are in euery respect as effectuall for proofe that the same is the onely law whereby to determine all our Ciuill controuersies And then what doth let but that as those men may haue their desire who frankely broch it already that the worke of reformation will neuer be perfect till the law of Iesus Christ be receiued alone so pleaders and Counsellors may bring their bookes of the Common law and bestow them as the students of curious needlesse arts did theirs in the Apostles time J leave them to scanne how farre those words of yours may reach wherein ye declare that whereas now many houses lye waste through inordinate suites of law This one thing will showe the excellencie of Discipline for the wealth of the Realme and quiet of Subiects that the Church is to censure such a party who is apparantly troublesome and contentious and without REASONABLE CAVSE vpon a meere will and stomacke doth vexe and molest his brother troble the Country For mine owne part I do not see but that it might verie well agree with your principles if your discipline were fully planted euen to send out your writs of surcease vnto all Courts of England besides for the most things handled in them A great deale further I might proceed and descend lower But for as much as against all these and the like difficulties your answer is that we ought to search what things are consonant to Gods will not which be most for our owne ease and therefore that your discipline being for such is your errour the absolute commaundement of Almightie God it must be receiued although the world by receiuing it should be cleane turned vpside downe herein lyeth the greatest danger of all For whereas the name of diuine authority is vsed to countenance these things which are not the commaundements of God but your owne erronious collections on him ye must father whatsoeuer ye shall afterwards be led either to do in withstanding the aduersaries of your cause or to thinke in maintenance of your doings And what this may be God doth know In such kinds of error the mind once imagining it selfe to seeke the execution of Gods will laboureth foorthwith to remoue both things and persons which any way hinder it from taking place and in such cases if any strange or new thing seeme requisite to be done a strange and new opinion concerning the lawfulnesse therof is withall receiued and broched vnder countenance of diuine authoritie One example herein may serue for many to shew that false opinions touching the will of God to haue things done are wont to bring forth mightie and violent practises against the hinderances of them and those practises new opinions more pernitious then the first yea most extremely sometimes opposite to that which the first did seeme to intend Where the people tooke vpon them the reformation of the Church by casting out popish superstition they hauing receiued from their Pastors a generall instruction that whatsoeuer the heauenly father hath not planted must be rooted out proceeded in some forrein places so far that down went oratories the very tēples of God thēselues For as they chanced to take the compasse of their cōmission stricter or larger so their dealings were accordingly more or lesse moderate Amongst others there sprang vp presently one kind of mē with whose zeale forwardnesse the rest being compared were thought to be maruelous cold dull These grounding thēselues on rules more generall that whatsoeuer the law of Christ commandeth not thereof Antichrist is the author and that whatsoeuer Antichrist or his adherents did in the world the true professors of Christ are to vndoe found out many things more then others had done the extirpation whereof was in their conceipt as necessary as of any thing before remoued Hereupon they secretly made their dolefull complaints euery where as they went that albeit the world did begin to professe some dislike of that which was euill in the kingdome of darknesse yet fruits worthy of a true repentance were not seene that if men did repent as they ought they must endeuour to purge the earth of all maner euill to the end there might follow a new world afterward wherein righteousnesse only should dwell Priuate repentance they sayd must appeare by euery mans fashioning his owne life contrary vnto the custome and orders of this present world both in greater things and in lesse To this purpose they had alwayes in their mouthes those greater
whose mouthes at the first sounded nothing but onely mortification of the flesh were come at the length to thinke they might lawfully haue their sixe or seuen wiues apeece they which at the first thought iudgement and iustice it selfe to be mercilesse cruelty accompted at the length their owne hands sanctified with being imb●ued in Christan bloud they who at the first were wont to beate downe all dominion and to vrge against poore Constables Kings of Nations had at the length both Consuls and Kings of their owne erection amongst themselues finally they which could not brooke at the first that any man should seeke no not by law the recouery of goods iniuriously taken or withheld from him were growne at the last to thinke they could not offer vnto God more acceptable sacrifice then by turning their aduersaries cleane out of house home and by inriching thēselues with al kind of spoile and pillage which thing being laid to their charge they had in a readinesse their answer that now the time was come when according to our Sauiours promise The meeke ones must inherite the earth and that their title hereunto was the same which the righteous Israelites had vnto the goods of the wicked Aegyptians Wherefore sith the world hath had in these men so fresh experience how dangerous such actiue errors are it must not offend you though touching the sequell of your present misperswasions much more be doubted then your owne intents and purposes do happily aime at And yet your words already are somewhat when ye affirme that your pastors Doctors Elders and Deacons ought to be in this Church of England whether hir Maiestie and our state will or no when for the animating of your consederates ye publish the musters which ye haue made of your owne bands and proclaime them to amount I know not to how many thousands when ye threaten that sith neither your suites to the Parliament nor supplications to our Conuocation house neither your defences by writing nor chalenges of disputation in behalfe of that cause are able to preuaile we must blame our selues if to bring in discipline some such meanes hereafter be vsed as shall cause all our harts to ake That things doubtfull are to be constered in the better part is a principle not safe to be followed in matters concerning the publique state of a common weale But howsoever these and the like speeches be accompted as arrowes idly shot at randon without either eye had to any marke or regard to their lighting place hath not your longing desire for the practise of your discipline brought the matter already vnto this demurrer amongst you whether the people and their godly pastors that way affected ought not to make separation from the rest and to begin the exercise of discipline without the licence of Ciuill powers which licence they haue sought for and are not heard Vpon which question as ye haue now deuided your selues the warier sort of you taking the one part and the forwarder in zeale the other so in case these earnest ones should preuaile what other sequell can any wise man imagine but this that hauing first resolued that attempts for discipline without superiors are lawfull it will follow in the next place to be disputed what may be attempted against superiors which will not haue the scepter of that discipline to rule ouer them Yea euen by you which haue stayed your selues from running headlong with the other sort somewhat notwithstanding there hath bene done without the leaue or liking of your lawfull superiors for the exercise of a part of your discipline amongst the Cleargy thereunto addicted And least examination of principall parties therein should bring those things to light which might hinder and let your proceedings behold for a barre against that impediment one opinion ye haue newly added vnto the rest euen vpon this occasion an opinion to exempt you from taking oathes which may turne to the molestation of your brethren in that cause The next neighbour opinion whereunto when occasion requireth may follow for dispensation with oathes already taken if they afterwards be found to import a necessity of detecting ought which may bring such good men into trouble or damage whatsoeuer the cause be O mercifull God what mans wit is there able to found the depth of those daungerous and fearefull euils whereinto our weake and impotent nature is inclinable to sinke itselfe rather then to shew an acknowledgement of error in that which once we haue vnaduisedly taken vpon vs to defend against the streame as it were of a contrary publique resolution Wherefore if we anie thing respect their error who being perswaded euen as ye are haue gone further vpon that perswasion then ye allow if we regard the present state of the highest gouernour placed ouer vs if the quality and disposition of our Nobles if the orders and lawes of our famous Vniuersities it the profession of the Civil or the practise of the Common law amongst vs if the mischiefes whereinto euen before our eyes so many others haue fallen headlong from no lesse plausible and faire beginnings then yours are there is in euery of these considerations most iust cause to feare least our hastines to embrace a thing of so perilous consequence should cause posterity to feele those euils which as yet are more easie for vs to preuent then they would be for them to remedy 9. The best and safest way for you therefore my deere brethren is to call your deeds past to a new reckening to reexamine the cause ye haue taken in hand and to try it euen point by point argument by argument with all the diligent exactnesse ye can to lay aside the gall of that bitternesse wherein your minds haue hitherto ouer abounded and with meeknesse to search the truth Thinke ye are men deeme it not impossible for you to erre sift vnpartially your owne hearts whether it be force of reason or vehemency of affection which hath bred and still doth feed these opinions in you If truth do any where manifest it selfe seeke not to smother it with glosing delusions acknowledge the greatnesse thereof and thinke it your best victory when the same doth preuaile ouer you That ye haue bene earnest in speaking or writing againe and againe the contrary way should be no blemish or discredit at all vnto you Amongst so many so huge volumes as the infinite paines of Saint Augustine haue brought foorth what one hath gotten him greater loue commendation and honour then the booke wherein he carefully collecteth his owne ouersights and sincerely condemneth them Many speeches there are of Iobes whereby his wisedome and other vertues may appeare but the glory of an ingenuous mind he hath purchased by these words onely Behold I will lay mine hand on my mouth I haue spoken once yet will I not therefore maintaine argument yea twice howbeit for that cause further I will not proceed Farre more comfort it were
They vnto whom we shall seeme tedious are in no wise iniuried by vs because it is in their owne hands to spare that labour which they are not willing to endure And if any complaine of obscuritie they must consider that in these matters it commeth no otherwise to passe then in sundry the workes both of art and also of nature where that which hath greatest force in the very things we see is notwithstanding it selfe oftentimes not seene The statelinesse of houses the goodlines of trees when we behold them delighteth the eye but that foundation which beareth vp the one that roote which ministreth vnto the other nourishment and life is in the bosome of the earth concealed if there be at any time occasion to search into it such labour is then more necessary then pleasant both to them which vndertake it and for the lookers on In like manner the vse and benefite of good lawes all that liue vnder them may enioy with delight and comfort albeit the groundes and first originall causes from whence they haue sprung be vnknowne as to the greatest part of men they are But when they who withdraw their obedience pretend that the lawes which they should obey are corrupt and vitious for better examination of their qualitie it behoueth the very foundation and roote the highest welspring and fountaine of them to be discouered Which because wee are not oftentimes accustomed to doe when wee doe it the paines wee take are more needefull a great deale then acceptable and the matters which wee handle seeme by reason of newnesse till the minde grow better acquainted with them darke intricate and vnfamiliar For as much helpe whereof as may be in this case I haue endeuoured throughout the body of this whole discourse that euery former part might giue strength vnto all that followe and euery later bring some light vnto all before So that if the iudgements of men doe but holde themselues in suspence as touching these first more generall meditations till in order they haue perused the rest that ensue what may seeme darke at the first will afterwardes be founde more plaine euen as the later particular decisions will appeare I doubt not more strong when the other haue beene read before The lawes of the Church whereby for so many ages together wee haue bene guided in the exercise of Christian religion and the seruice of the true God our rites customes and orders of Ecclesiasticall gouernment are called in question wee are accused as men that will not haue Christ Iesus to rule ouer them but haue wilfully cast his statutes behinde their backes hating to bee reformed and made subiect vnto the scepter of his discipline Behold therefore wee offer the lawes whereby wee liue vnto the generall triall and iudgement of the whole world hartily beseeching almightie God whome wee desire to serue according to his owne will that both wee and others all kinde of partiall affection being cleane laide aside may haue eyes to see and hearts to embrace the things that in his sight are most acceptable And because the point about which wee striue is the qualitie of our lawes our first entrance hereinto cannot better be made then with consideration of the nature of lawe in generall and of that lawe which giueth life vnto all the rest which are commendable iust and good n●mely the lawe whereby the Eternall himselfe doth worke Proceeding from hence to the lawe first of nature then of scripture we shall haue the easier accesse vnto those things which come after to be debated concerning the particular cause and question which wee haue in hand 2 All thinges that are haue some operation not violent or casuall Neither doth any thing euer begin to exercise the same without some foreconceiued ende for which it worketh And the ende which it worketh for is not obteined vnlesse the worke bee also fit to obteine it by For vnto euery ende euery operation will not serue That which doth assigne vnto each thing the kinde that which doth moderate the force and power that which doth appoint the forme and measure of working the same we tearme a Lawe So that no certaine ende could euer bee attained vnlesse the actions whereby it is attained were regular that is to say made suteable fit and correspondent vnto their ende by some Canon rule or lawe Which thing doth first take plac● in the workes euen of God himselfe All thinges therefore doe worke after a sort according to lawe all other thinges according to a lawe whereof some superiours vnto whome they are subiect is author onely the workes and operations of God haue him both for their worker and for the lawe whereby they are wrought The being of God is a kinde of lawe to his working for that perfection which God is giueth perfection to that hee doth Those naturall necessary and internall operations of God the generation of the Sonne the proceeding of the Spirit are without the compasse of my present intent which is to touch onely such operations as haue their beginning and being by a voluntary purpose wherewith God hath eternally decreed when and how they should bee Which eternall decree is that wee tearme an eternall lawe Dangerous it were for the feeble braine of man to wade farre into the doings of the most High whome although to knowe bee life and ioy to make mention of his name yet our soundest knowledge is to know that wee know him not as indeede hee is neither can know him and our safest eloquence concerning him is our silence when we confesse without confession that his glory is inexplicable his greatnesse aboue our capacitie and reach Hee is aboue and wee vpon earth therefore it behoueth our wordes to bee warie and fewe Our God is one or rather very onenesse and meere vnitie hauing nothing but it selfe in it selfe and not consisting as all things doe besides God of many things In which essentiall vnitie of God a Trinitie personall neuerthelesse subsisteth after a maner far exceeding the possibilitie of mans conceipt The works which outwardly are of God they are in such sort of him being one that each person hath in them somewhat peculiar and proper For being three and they all subsisting in the essence of one deitie from the Father by the Sonne through the Spirit all things are That which the Sonne doth heare of the Father and which the Spirit doth receiue of the Father the Sonne the same we haue at the hāds of the Spirit as being the last and therfore the nearest vnto vs in order although in power the same with the second and the first The wise and learned among the very Heathens themselues haue all acknowledged some first cause whereupon originally the being of all things dependeth Neither haue they otherwise spoken of that cause then as an Agent which knowing what and why it worketh obserueth in working a most exact order or lawe Thus much is signified by that which Homer mentioneth
euen as vpwarde in God beneath whom themselues are they see that character which is no where but in themselues and vs resembled Thus farre euen the Painims haue approched thus farre they haue seene into the doings of the Angels of God Orpheus confessing that the fiery throne of God is attended on by those most industrious Angels carefull how all things are performed amongst men and the mirror of humaine wisedome plainely teaching that God mooueth Angels euen as that thing doth stirre mans heart which is thereunto presented amiable Angelicall actions may therefore be reduced vnto these three generall kindes first most delectable loue arising from the visible apprehension of the puritie glory and beautie of God inuisible sauing onely vnto Spirites that are pure secondly adoration grounded vpon the euidence of the greatnes of God on whom they see how all things depende thirdly imitation bred by the presence of his exemplary goodnes who ceaseth not before them daily to fill heauen and earth with the rich treasures of most free and vndeserued grace Of Angels wee are not to consider onely what they are and doe in regard of their owne being but that also which concerneth them as they are lincked into a kinde of corporation amongst themselues and of societie or fellowship with men Consider Angels each of them seuerally in himself and their law is that which the Prophet Dauid mentioneth All ye his Angels praise him Consider the Angels of God associated and their lawe is that which disposeth them as an Army one in order and degree aboue an other Consider finally the Angels as hauing with vs that communion which the Apostle to the Hebrewes noteth and in regard whereof Angels haue not disdained to professe themselues our fellowseruants from hence there springeth vp a third law which bindeth them to workes of ministeriall imployment Euery of which their seuerall functions are by them performed with ioy A part of the Angels of God notwithstanding we know haue fallen and that their fall hath beene through the voluntary breach of that lawe which did require at their hands continuance in the exercise of their high and admirable vertue Impossible it was that euer their will should chaunge or incline to remit any part of their dutie without some obiect hauing force to auert their conceit from God and to draw it an other way and that before they attained that high perfection of blisse wherein now the elect Angels are without possibilitie of falling Of any thing more then of God they could not by any meanes like as long as whatsoeuer they knew besides God they apprehended it not in it selfe without dependencie vpon God because so long God must needes seeme infinitely better then any thing which they so could apprehend Thinges beneath them could not in such sort be presented vnto their eyes but that therein they must needs see alwayes how those things did depend on God It seemeth therefore that there was no other way for Angels to sinne but by reflex of their vnderstanding vpon themselues when being held with admiration of their owne sublimitie and honor the memorie of their subordination vnto God and their dependencie on him was drowned in this conceipt whereupon their adoration loue and imitation of God could not choose but be also interrupted The fall of Angels therefore was pride Since their fall their practises haue beene the cleane contrary vnto those before mentioned For being dispersed some in the ayre some on the earth some in the water some amongest the minerals dennes and caues that are vnder the earth they haue by all meanes laboured to effect an vniuersall rebellion against the lawes and as farre as in them lyeth vtter destruction of the workes of God These wicked Spirites the Heathens honoured in stead of Gods both generally vnder the name of Dii inferi Gods infernall and particularly some in Oracles some in Idoles some as household Gods some as Nymphes in a word no foule and wicked spirite which was not one way or other honored of men as God till such time as light appeared in the world and dissolued the workes of the diuell Thus much therefore may suffice for Angels the next vnto whom in degree are men 5 God alone excepted who actually and euerlastingly is whatsoeuer he may be and which cannot hereafter be that which now he is not all other things besides are somewhat in possibilitie which as yet they are not in act And for this cause there is in all things an appetite or desire whereby they incline to something which they may be and when they are it they shall be perfecte● then now they are All which perfections are contained vnder the generall name of Goodnesse And because there is not in the world any thing wherby another may not some way be made the perfecter therefore all things that are are good Againe sith there can be no goodnesse desired which proceedeth not from God himselfe as from the supreme cause of all things and euerie effect doth after a sort conteine at least wise resemble the cause from which it proceedeth all things in the world are sayd in some sort to seeke the highest and to couet more or lesse the participation of God himselfe Yet this doth no where so much appeare as it doth in man because there are so many kindes of perfections which man seeketh The first degree of goodnesse is that generall perfection which all things do seeke in desiring the continuance of their beeing All thinges therefore coueting as much as may be to be like vnto God in being euer that which cannot hereunto attaine personally doth seeke to continue it selfe another way that is by ofspring and propagation The next degree of goodnesse is that which each thing coueteth by affecting resemblance with God in the constancy and excellencie of those operations which belong vnto their kind The immutabilitie of God they striue vnto by working either alwayes or for the most part after one and the same manner his absolute exactnes they imitate by tending vnto that which is most exquisite in euery particular Hence haue risen a number of axiomes in Philosophie shewing how The workes of nature do alwayes ayme at that which cannot be bettered These two kinds of goodnesse rehe●rsed are so neerely vnited to the things themselues which desi●e them that we scarcely perceiue the appetite to stirre in reaching foorth her hand towards them But the desire of those perfections which grow externally is more apparent especially of such as are not expressely desired vnlesse they be first knowne or such as are not for any other cause then for knowledge it selfe desired Concerning perfections in this kind that by proceeding in the knowledge of truth and by growing in the exercise of vertue man amongst the creatures of this inferiour world aspireth to the greatest conformity with God this is not only knowne vnto vs
knowne relation which God hath vnto vs as vnto children and vnto all good thinges as vnto effectes whereof himselfe is the principall cause these axiomes and lawes naturall concerning our dutie haue arisen That in all things we go about his ayde is by prayer to be craued That he cannot haue sufficient honor done vnto him but the vttermost of that we can do to honour him we must which is in effect the same that we read Thou shalt loue the Lord thy God with all thy heart with all thy soule and with all thy mind Which law our Sauiour doth terme the First and the great Commaundement Touching the next which as our Sauiour addeth is like vnto this he meaneth in amplitude and largenesse in as much as it is the roote out of which all laws of dutie to men-ward haue growne as out of the former all offices of religion towards God the like naturall inducement hath brought men to know that it is their duty no lesse to loue others then themselues For seeing those things which are equall must needes all haue one measure if I cannot but wish to receiue al good euen as much at euery mans hand as any man can wish vnto his owne soule how should I looke to haue any part of my desire herein satisfied vnlesse my self be careful to satisfie the like desire which is vndoubtedly in other men we all being of one and the same nature To haue any thing offered them repugnant to this desire must needs in all respects grieue them as much as me so that if I do harme I must looke to suffer there being no reason that others should shew greater measure of loue to me then they haue by me shewed vnto them My desire therefore to be loued of my equals in nature as much as possible may be imposeth vpon me a naturall dutie of bearing to them-ward fully the like affection From which relation of equalitie betweene our selues and them that are as our selues what seuerall rules and Canons naturall reason hath drawne for direction of life no man is ignorant as namely That because we would take no harme we must therefore do none That sith we would not be in any thing extreamely dealt with we must our selues auoide all extremitie in our dealings That from all violence and wrong wee are vtterly to abstaine with such like which further to wade in would bee tedious and to our present purpose not altogether so necessary seeing that on these two generall heads alreadie mentioned all other specialties are dependent Wherefore the naturall measure wherby to iudge our doings is the sentence of reason determining and setting downe what is good to be done Which sentence is either mandatory shewing what must be done or else permissiue declaring onely what may be done or thirdly admonitorie opening what is the most conuenient for vs to doe The first taketh place where the comparison doth stand altogether betweene doing and not doing of one thing which in it selfe is absolutely good or euill as it had bene for Ioseph to yeeld or not to yeeld to the impotent desire of his lewd mistresse the one euill the other good simply The second is when of diuerse things euill all being not euitable we are permitted to take one which one sauing only in case of so great vrgency were not otherwise to be taken as in the matter of diuorce amongst the Iewes The last when of diuers things good one is principall and most eminent as in their act who sould their possessions and layd the price at the Apostles feete which possessions they might haue retained vnto themselues without sinne againe in the Apostle S. Paules owne choyce to maintaine himselfe by his owne labour whereas in liuing by the Churches maintenance as others did there had bene no offence committed In goodnes therefore there is a latitude or extent whereby it commeth to passe that euen of good actions some are better then other some whereas otherwise one man could not excell another but all should be either absolutely good as hitting iumpe that indiuisible point or Center wherein goodnesse consisteth or else missing it they should be excluded out of the number of wel-doers Degrees of wel doing there could be none except perhaps in the seldomnes oftennes of doing well But the nature of goodnesse being thus ample a lawe is properly that which reason in such sort defineth to be good that it must be done And the law of reason or humaine nature is that which men by discourse of naturall reason haue rightly found out themselues to be all for euer bound vnto in their actions Lawes of reason haue these markes to be knowne by Such as keepe them resemble most liuely in their voluntarie actions that very manner of working which nature her selfe doth necessarily obserue in the course of the whole world The workes of nature are all behoouefull beautifull without superfluitie or defect euen so theirs if they be framed according to that which the law of reason teacheth Secondly those lawes are inuestigable by reason without the helpe of reuelation supernaturall and diuine Finally in such sort they are inuestigable that the knowledge of them is generall the world hath alwayes bene acquainted with them according to that which one in Sophocles obserueth corcerning a branch of this law It is no child of two dayes or yeasterdayes birth but hath bene no man knoweth how long sithence It is not agreed vpon by one or two or few but by all which we may not so vnderstand as if euery particular man in the whole world did know and confesse whatsoeuer the law of reason doth conteine but this lawe is such that being proposed no man can reiect it as vnreasonable and vniust Againe there is nothing in it but any man hauing naturall perfection of wit and ripenesse of iudgement may by labour and trauaile find out And to conclude the generall principles thereof are such as it is not easie to find men ignorant of them Law rationall therefore which men commonly vse to call the law of nature meaning thereby the law which humaine nature knoweth it selfe in reason vniuersally bound vnto which also for that cause may be termed most fitly the lawe of reason this law I say comprehendeth all those things which men by the light of their naturall vnderstanding euidently know or at least wife may know to be beseeming or vnbeseeming vertuous or vitious good or euill for them to do Now although it be true which some haue said that whatsoeuer is done amisse the law of nature and reason therby is transgrest because euen those offences which are by their speciall qualities breaches of supernaturall lawes do also for that they are generally euill violate in generall that principle of reason which willeth vniuersally to flie from euill yet do we not therfore so far extend the law of reason as to conteine in it all maner lawes
whereunto reasonable creatures are bound but as hath bene shewed we restraine it to those onely duties which all men by force of naturall wit either do or might vnderstand to be such duties as concerne all men Certaine half waking men there are as Saint Augustine noteth who neither altogether asleepe in folly nor yet throughly awake in the light of true vnderstanding haue thought that there is not at all any thing iust and righteous in it selfe but looke wherwith nations are inured the same they take to be right and iust Wherupon their conclusion is that seeing each sort of people hath a different kind of right from other and that which is right of it owne nature must be euery where one and the same therefore in it selfe there is nothing right These good folke saith he that I may not trouble their wits with rehearsal of too many things haue not looked so far into the world as to perceiue that Do as thou wouldest be done vnto is a sentence which all nations vnder heauen are agreed vpon Refer this sentence to the loue of God it extinguisheth all heinous crimes referre it to the loue of thy neighbor and all grieuous wrongs it banisheth out of the world Wherefore as touching the law of reason this was it seemeth Saint Augustines iudgement namely that there are in it some things which stand as principles vniuersally agreed vpon and that out of those principles which are in themselues euident the greatest morall duties we owe towards God or man may without any great difficultie be concluded If then it be here demaunded by what meanes it should come to passe the greatest part of the law morall being so easie for all men to know that so many thousands of men notwithstanding haue bene ignorant euen of principall morall duties not imagining the breach of them to be sinne I deny not but lewd and wicked custome beginning perhaps at the first amongst few afterwards spreading into greater multitudes and so continuing from time to time may be of force euen in plaine things to smother the light of naturall vnderstanding because men will not bend their wits to examine whether things wherewith they haue bene accustomed be good or euill For examples sake that grosser kind of heathenish idolatrie wherby they worshipped the very workes of their owne hands was an absurdity to reason so palpable that the Prophet Dauid comparing idols and idolaters together maketh almost no ods betweene them but the one in a maner as much without wit and sense as the other They that make them are like vnto them and so are all that trust in them That wherein an idolater doth seeme so absurb and foolish is by the Wiseman thus exprest He is not ashamed to speake vnto that which hath no life he calleth on him that is weake for health he prayeth for life vnto him which is dead of him which hath no experience he requireth helpe for his iourney be s●●th to him which is not able to go for gaine and worke and successe in his affaires he seeketh furtherance of him that hath no maner of power The cause of which senselesse stupidity is afterwards imputed to custome When a father mourned grieuosly for his son that was taken away suddenly he made an image for him that was once dead whom now he worshipped as a God ordeining to his seruants ceremonies sacrifices Thus by processe of time this wicked custome preuailed was kept as a law the authority of Rulers the ambition of craftsmen and such like meanes thrusting forward the ignorant and increasing their superstition Vnto this which the Wiseman hath spoken somwhat besides may be added For whatsoeuer we haue hitherto taught or shal hereafter cōcerning the force of mans naturall vnderstanding this we alwayes desire withall to be vnderstood that there is no kind of faculty or power in man or any other creature which can rightly performe the functions alotted to it without perpetuall aide concurrence of that supreme cause of all things The benefit whereof as oft as we cause God in his iustice to withdraw there can no other thing follow then that which the Apostle noteth euen men indued with the light of reason to walke notwithstanding in the vanity of their mind hauing their cogitations darkned being strangers from the life of God through the ignorance which is in them because of the hardnes of their harts And this cause is mētioned by the Prophet Esay speaking of the ignorance idolaters who see not how the manifest reason condemneth their grosse iniquity and sinne They haue not in them saith he so much wit as to thinke shall I bow to the stocke of a tree All knowledge and vnderstanding is taken from them For God hath shut their eyes that they cannot see That which we say in this case of idolatry serueth for all other things wherein the like kind of generall blindnes hath preuailed against the manifest lawes of reason Within the compasse of which lawes we do not onely comprehend whatsoeuer may be easily knowne to belong to the duty of all men but euen whatsoeuer may possibly be known to be of that quality so that the same be by necessary consequence deduced out of cleere and manifest principles For if once we descend vnto probable collections what is conuenient for men we are then in the territory where free and arbitrarie determinations the territory where humane lawes take place which lawes are after to be considered 9 Now the due obseruation of this law which reason teacheth vs cannot but be effectuall vnto their great good that obserue the same For we see the whole world and each part thereof so compacted that as long as each thing performeth onely that worke which is naturall vnto it it thereby preserueth both other things and also it selfe Contrariwise let any principall thing as the Sun the Moone any one of the heauēs or elemēts but once cease or faile or swarue and who doth not easily conceiue that the sequele thereof would be ruine both to it selfe whatsoeuer dependeth on it And is it possible that man being not only the noblest creature in the world but euen a very world in himselfe his transgressing the law of his nature should draw no maner of harme after it Yes tribulation and anguish vnto euerie soule that doth euill Good doth followe vnto all things by obseruing the course of their nature and on the contrarie side euill by not obseruing it but not vnto naturall agents that good which wee call Reward not that euill which wee properly tearme Punishment The reason whereof is because amongst creatures in this world onely mans obseruation of the lawe of his nature is Righteousnesse onely mans transgression Sinne. And the reason of this is the difference in his maner of obseruing or transgressing the lawe of his nature Hee doth not otherwise then voluntarily the one or the other What we do against our
No man coulde euer haue thought this reasonable that had intended thereby onely to punish the iniury committed according to the grauitie of the fact For who knoweth not that harme aduisedly done is naturally lesse pardonable and therefore worthy of the sharper punishment But for as much as none did so vsually this way offende as men in that case which they wittingly fell into euen because they would bee so much the more freely outragious it was for their publique good where such disorder was growne to frame a positiue lawe for remedie thereof accordingly To this appertaine those knowne lawes of making lawes as that lawemakers must haue an eye to the place where and to the men amongst whome that one kinde of lawes cannot serue for all kindes of regiment that where the multitude beareth sway lawes that shall tend vnto the preseruation of that state must make common smaller offices to go by lot for feare of strife and deuision likely to arise by reason that ordinary qualities sufficing for discharge of such offices they could not but by many bee desired and so with daunger contended for and not missed without grudge and discontentment whereas at an vncertaine lot none can find themselues grieued on whomsoeuer it lighteth contrariwise the greatest whereof but few are capable to passe by popular election that neither the people may enuie such as haue those honours in as much as themselues bestow them and that the chiefest may bee kindled with desire to exercise all partes of rare and beneficiall vertue knowing they shal not loose their labour by growing in same and estimation amongst the people if the helme of chiefe gouernment bee in the handes of a few of the wealthiest that then lawes prouiding for continuance thereof must make the punishment of contumelie and wrong offered vnto any of the common sorte sharpe and grieuous that so the euill may be preuented whereby the rich are most likely to bring themselues into hatred with the people who are not wonte to take so great offence when they are excluded from honors and offices as whē their persons are contumeliously troden vpon In other kindes of regiment the like is obserued concerning the difference of positiue lawes which to be euerie where the same is impossible and against their nature Now as the learned in the lawes of this land obserue that our statutes sometimes are onely the affirmation or ratification of that which by common law was held before so heere it is not to be omitted that generally all lawes humaine which are made for the ordering of politike societies bee either such as establish some dutie whereunto all men by the law of reason did before stand bound or else such as make that a dutie now which before was none The one sort wee may for distinctions sake call mixedly and the other meerely humane That which plaine or necessary reason bindeth men vnto may be in sundrie considerations expedient to be ratified by humane law For example if confusion of blood in marriage the libertie of hauing many wiues at once or any other the like corrupt and vnreasonable custome doth happen to haue preuailed far and to haue gotten the vpper hand of right reason with the greatest part so that no way is left to rectifie such soule disorder without prescribing by law the same thinges which reason necessarilie doth enforce but is not perceiued that so it doth or if many be grown vnto that which thapostle did lament in some concerning whom he writeth saying that Euen what things they naturally know in those very things as beasts void of reason they corrupted themselues or if there be no such speciall accident yet for as much as the common sort are led by the sway of their sensuall desires and therefore doe more shun sinne for the sensible euils which follow it amongst men then for any kinde of sentence which reason doth pronounce against it this very thing is cause sufficient why duties belonging vnto each kinde of vertue albeit the law of reason teach them should notwithstanding be prescribed euen by humane law Which law in this case we terme mixt because the mat●er whereunto it bindeth is the same which reason necessarily doth require at our handes and from the law of reason it differeth in the maner of binding onely For whereas men before stoode bound in conscience to doe as the law of reason teacheth they are now by vertue of humane law become constrainable and if they outwardly transgresse punishable As for lawes which are meerely humane the matter of them is any thing which reason doth but probably ●each to bee fit and conuenient so that till such time as law hath passed amongst men about it of it selfe it bindeth no man One example whereof may be this Landes are by humane law in some places after the owners decease diuided vnto all his children in some all descendeth to the eldest sonne If the lawe of reason did necessarily require but the one of these two to be done they which by lawe haue receiued the other should be subiect to that heauy sentence which denounceth against all that decree wicked vniust vnreasonable things woe Whereas now which soeuer be receiued there is no law of reason transgrest because there is probable reason why eyther of them may be expedient and for eyther of them more then probable reason there is not to bee found Lawes whether mixtly or meerely humane are made by politique societies some onely as those societies are ciuilly vnited some as they are spiritually ioyned and make such a body as wee call the Church Of lawes humane in this later kinde wee are to speake in the third booke following Let it therefore suffice thus far to haue touched the force wherewith almightie God hath gratiously endued our nature and thereby inabled the same to finde out both those lawes which all men generally are for euer bound to obserue and also such as are most fit for their behoofe who leade their liues in any ordered state of gouernment Now besides that lawe which simply concerneth men as men and that which belongeth vnto them as they are men linked with others in some forme of politique societie there is a third kinde of lawe which toucheth all such seuerall bodies politique so farre forth as one of them hath publique commerce with another And this third is the Lawe of nations Betweene men and beastes there is no possibilitie of sociable communion because the w●lspring of that communion is a naturall delight which man hath to transfuse from himselfe into others and to receiue from others into himselfe especially those things wherein the excellencie of his kinde doth most consist The chiefest instrument of humane communion therefore is speech because thereby we impart mutually one to another the conceiptes of our reasonable vnderstanding And for that cause seeing beasts are not hereof capable for as much as with them wee can vse no such conference they being in
nor any thing in such wise aboundeth that as being superfluous vnfruitfull and altogether needlesse we should thinke it no losse or danger at all if we did want it 14 Although the scripture of God therefore be stored with infinite varietie of matter in all kinds although it abound with all sorts of lawes yet the principal intent of scripture is to deliuer the lawes of duties supernaturall Oftentimes it hath bene in very solemne maner disputed whether all things necessary vnto saluation be necessarily set downe in the holy Scriptures or no. If we define that necessary vnto saluation whereby the way to saluation is in any sort made more plaine apparent and easie to be knowne then is there no part of true Philosophie no art of account no kind of science rightly so called but the Scripture must conteine it If onely those things be necessary as surely none else are without the knowledge and practise whereof it is not the will and pleasure of God to make any ordinary graunt of saluation it may be notwithstanding and oftentimes hath bene demanded how the bookes of holy Scripture conteine in them all necessary things when of things necessary the very chiefest is to knowe what bookes we are bound to esteeme holy which point is confest impossible for the Scripture it selfe to teach Whereunto wee may aunswere with truth that there is not in the world any Arte or Science which proposing vnto it selfe an ende as euery one doth some ende or other hath bene therefore thought defectiue if it haue not deliuered simply whatsoeuer is needfull to the same ende but all kinds of knowledge haue their certaine bounds and limits each of them presupposeth many necessary things learned in other sciences and knowne before hand He that should take vpon him to teach men how to be eloquent in pleading causes must needes deliuer vnto them whatsoeuer precepts are requisite vnto that end otherwise he doth no● the thing which he taketh vpon him Seeing then no man can pleade eloquently vnlesse he be able first to speake it followeth that habilitie of speech is in this case a thing most necessary Notwithstanding euery man would thinke it ridiculous that he which vndertaketh by writing to instruct an Orator should therfore deliuer all the precepts of Grammar because his profession is to deliuer precepts necessarie vnto eloquent speech yet so that they which are to receiue them bee taugt before hand so much of that which is thereunto necessarie as comprehendeth the skill of speaking In like sort albeit Scripture do professe to conteine in it all thinges which are necessarie vnto saluation yet the meaning cannot bee simply of all things which are necessarie but all things that are necessary in some certaine kind or forme as all things that are necessarie and either could not at all or could not easilie be knowne by the light of naturall discourse all things which are necessarie to be knowne that we may be saued but knowne with presupposall of knowledge cōcerning certaine principles wherof it receaueth vs already perswaded and then instructeth vs in all the residue that are necessary In the number of these principles one is the sacred authority of Scripture Being therefore perswaded by other meanes that these Scriptures are the oracles of God themselues do then teach vs the rest and lay before vs all the duties which God requireth at our hands as necessary vnto saluation Further there hath bene some doubt likewise whether conteining in scripture do import expresse setting downe in plaine tearmes or else comprehending in such sort that by reason we may frō thence conclude all things which are necessary Against the former of these two constructions instance hath sundrie wayes bene geuen For our beliefe in the Trinity the Coeternity of the Sonne of God with his Father the proceeding of the Spirite from the Father and the Sonne the duty of baptizing infants these with such other principall points the necessity wherof is by none denied are notwithstanding in Scripture no where to be found by expresse literall mention only deduced they are out of scripture by collection This kind of cōprehension in scripture being therefore receiued still there is no doubt how far we are to proceed by collection before the full and complete measure of things necessary be made vp For let vs not thinke that as long as the world doth endure the wit of man shal be able to found the bottome of that which may be concluded out of the scripture especially if things conteined by collection do so far extend as to draw in whatsoeuer may be at any time out of scripture but probably and coniecturally surmised But let necessary collection be made requisite and we may boldly deny that of all those things which at this day are with so great necessitie vrged vpon this Church vnder the name of reformed Church discipline there is any one which their bookes hetherto haue made manifest to be conteined in the Scripture Let them if they can alleage but one properly belonging to their cause and not common to them and vs and shew the deduction thereof out of scripture to be necessarie It hath beene already shewed how all things necessarie vnto saluation in such sort as before we haue maintained must needes be possible for men to knowe and that many things are in such sort necessarie the knowledge whereof is by the light of nature impossible to be attained Whereupon it followeth that either all flesh is excluded from possibility of saluation which to thinke were most barbarous or else that God hath by supernaturall meanes reuealed the way of life so far forth as doth suffice For this cause God hath so many times and waies spoken to the sonnes of men Neither hath he by speech only but by wilting also instructed and taught his Church The cause of writing hath bene to the end that things by him reuealed vnto the world might haue the longer cōtinuance and the greater certainty of assurance by how much that which standeth on record hath in both those respects preeminence aboue that which passeth from hand to hand and hath no pennes but the toongs no bookes but the eares of men to record it The seueral bookes of scripture hauing had each some seuerall occasion and particular purpose which caused them to be written the contents thereof are according to the exigence of that speciall end whereunto they are intended Hereupon it groweth that euery booke of holy scripture doth take out of all kinds of truth naturall historicall forreine supernaturall so much as the matter handled requireth Now for as much as there hath bene reason alleaged sufficient to conclude that all things necessary vnto saluation must be made knowne and that God himselfe hath therefore reuealed his will because otherwise men could not haue knowne so much as i● necessary his surceasing to speake to the world since the publishing of the Gospell of Iesus Christ and the
what nature and force lawes are according vnto their seuerall kinds the lawe which God with himselfe hath eternally set downe to follow in his owne workes the law which he hath made for his creatures to keepe the law of naturall and necessarie agents the law which Angels in heauen obey the lawe whereunto by the light of reason men find themselues bound in that they are men the lawe which they make by composition for multitudes and politique societies of men to be guided by the law which belongeth vnto each nation the lawe that concerneth the fellowship of all and lastly the lawe which God himselfe hath supernaturally reuealed It might peraduenture haue beene more popular and more plausible to vulgar eares if this first discourse had beene spent in extolling the force of lawes in shewing the great necessity of them when they are good and in aggrauating their offence by whom publique lawes are iniuriously traduced But for as much as with such kind of matter the passions of men are rather stirred one way or other then their knowledge any way set forward vnto the triall of that whereof there is doubt made I haue therefore turned aside from that beaten path and chosen though a lesse easie yet a more profitable way in regard of the end we propose Least therefore any man should maruail● whereunto all these things tend the drift and purpose of all is this euen to shew in what manner as euery good and perfect gift so this very gift of good and perfect lawes is deriued from the father of lights to teach men a reason why iust and reasonable lawes are of so great force of so great vse in the world and to enforme their minds with some methode of reducing the lawes whereof there is present controuersie vnto their first originall causes that so it may be in euery particular ordinance thereby the better discerned whether the same be reasonable iust and righteous or no. Is there any thing which can either be throughly vnderstood or soundly iudged of till the very first causes and principles from which originally it springeth bee made manifest If all parts of knowledge haue beene thought by wise men to bee then most orderly deliuered and proceeded in when they are drawne to their first originall seeing that our whole question concerneth the qualitie of Ecclesiasticall lawes let it not seeme a labour superfluous that in the entrance thereunto all these seuerall kinds of lawes haue beene considered in as much as they all concurre as principles they all haue their forcible operations therein although not all in like apparent and manifest maner By meanes whereof it commeth to passe that the force which they haue is not obserued of many Easier a great deale it is for men by law to be taught what they ought to do then instructed how to iudge as they should do of law the one being a thing which belongeth generally vnto all the other such as none but the wiser and more iudicious sorte can performe Yea the wisest are alwayes touching this point the readiest to acknowledge that soundly to iudge of a law is the waightiest thing which any man can take vpon him But if we wil giue iudgement of the laws vnder which we liue first let that law eternall be alwayes before our eyes as being of principall force and moment to breed in religious minds a dutifull estimation of all lawes the vse and benefite whereof we see because there can be no doubt but that lawes apparently good are as it were things copied out of the very tables of that high euerlasting law euen as the booke of that law hath said concerning it selfe By me Kings raigne and by me Princes decree iustice Not as if men did behold that booke and accordingly frame their lawes but because it worketh in them because it discouereth and as it were readeth it selfe to the world by them when the lawes which they make are righteous Furthermore although we perceiue not the goodnesse of lawes made neuerthelesse sith things in themselues may haue that which we peraduenture discerne not should not this breed a feare in our harts how we speake or iudge in the worse part concerning that the vnaduised disgrace whereof may be no meane dishonour to him towards whom we professe all submission and awe Surely there must be very manifest iniquitie in lawes against which we shall be able to iustifie our contumelious inuectiues The chiefest roote whereof when we vse them without cause is ignorance how lawes inferiour are deriued from that supreme or highest lawe The first that receiue impression from thence are naturall agents The lawe of whose operations might be happily thought lesse pertinent when the question is about lawes for humane actions but that in those very actions which most spiritually and supernaturally concerne men the rules and axiomes of naturall operations haue their force What can be more immediate to our saluation then our perswasion concerning the lawe of Christ towardes his Church What greater assurance of loue towards his Church then the knowledge of that mysticall vnion whereby the Church is become as neare vnto Christ as any one part of his flesh is vnto other That the Church being in such sort his he must needes protect it what proofe more strong then if a manifest lawe so require which law it is not possible for Christ to violate And what other lawe doth the Apostle for this alleage but such as is both common vnto Christ with vs and vnto vs with other things naturall No man hateth his owne flesh but doth loue and cherish it The axiomes of that lawe therefore whereby naturall agentes are guided haue their vse in the morall yea euen in the spirituall actions of men and consequently in all lawes belonging vnto men howsoeuer Neither are the Angels themselues so farre seuered from vs in their kind and manner of working but that betweene the lawe of their heauenly operations and the actions of men in this our state of mortalitie such correspondence there is as maketh it expedient to know in some sort the one for the others more perfect direction Would Angels acknowledge themselues fellow seruants with the sonnes of men but that both hauing one Lord there must be some kinde of lawe which is one and the same to both whereunto their obedience being perfecter is to our weaker both a paterne and a spurre Or would the Apostle speaking of that which belongeth vnto Saintes as they are linked together in the bond of spirituall societie so often make mention how Angels are therewith delighted if in thinges publiquely done by the Church we are not somewhat to respect what the Angels of heauen doe Yea so farre hath the Apostle S. Paule proceeded as to signifie that euen about the outward orders of the Church which serue but for comelinesse some regard is to be had of Angels who best like vs when we are most like vnto them
which is meere we owe in this case obedience to that law of reason which teacheth mediocritie in meates and drinkes The same things diuine lawe teacheth also as at large we haue shewed it doth all partes of morall dutie whereunto we all of necessitie stand bound in regard of the life to come But of certaine kindes of foode the Iewes sometime had and we our selues likewise haue a mysticall reli●ious and supernaturall vse they of their Pas● all lambe and oblations wee of our bread and wine in the Eucharist which vse none but diuine law could institute Now as we liue in ciuill societie the state of the common wealth wherein we liue both may and doth require certaine lawes concerning foode which lawes sauing onely that we are members of the common wealth where they are of force we should not neede to respect a● rules of action whereas now in their place and kinde they must be respected and obeyed Yea the selfe same matter is also a subiect wherein sometime Ecclesiasticall lawes haue place so that vnlesse wee will bee authors of confusion in the Church our priuate discretion which otherwise might guide vs a contrary way must here submit it selfe to bee that way guided which the publike iudgement of the Church hath thought better In which case that of Zonaras concerning f●stes may be remembred Fastinges are good but let good things be done in good and conueni●nt maner He that transgresseth in his fasting the orders of the holy fathers the positiue lawes of the Church of Christ must be plainely tolde that good thinges doe loose the grace of their goodnesse when in good sort they are not performed And as here mens priuate phansies must giue place to the higher iudgement of that Church which is in authoritie a mother ouer them so the very actions of whole Churches haue in regard of commerce and fellowship with other Churches bene subiect to lawes concerning foode the contrarie vnto which lawes had else bene thought more conuenient for them to obserue as by that order of abstinence from strangled and bloud may appeare an order grounded vpon that fellowship which the Churches of the Gentiles had with the Iewes Thus we see how euen one and the selfe same thing is vnder diuers considerations conueyed through many lawes and that to measure by any one kind of law all the action of men were to confound the admirable order wherein God hath disposed all lawes each as in nature so in degree distinct from other Wherefore that here we may briefly ende of lawe there can be no lesse acknowledged then that her seate is the bosome of God her voyce the harmony of the world all things in heauen and earth doe her homage the very least as feeling her care and the greatest as not exempted from her power both Angels and men and creatures of what condition so euer though each in different sort and manner yet all with vniforme consent admiring her as the mother of their peace and ioy The second Booke Concerning their first position who vrge reformation in the Church of England Namely That Scripture is the onely rule of all things which in this life may be done by men The matter contained in this second Boooke 1 AN answere to their first proofe brought out of scripture Prou. 2.9 2 To their second 1 Cor. 10.31 3 To their third 1. Tim. 4.5 4 To their fourth Rom. 14.23 5 To their proofes out of Fathers who dispute negatiuely from the authoritie of holy scripture 6 To their proofe by the scriptures custome of disputing from diuine authoritie negatiuely 7 An examination of their opinion concerning the force of arguments taken from humane authoritie for the ordering of mens actions and perswasions 8 A declaration what the truth is in this matter AS that which in the title hath bene proposed for the matter whereof we treat is onely the Ecclesiasticall lawe whereby we are gouerned So neither is it my purpose to maintaine any other thing then that which therein truth and reason shall approue For concerning the dealings of men who administer gouernment and vnto whom the execution of that law belongeth they haue their iudge who sitteth in heauen and before whose tribunall seate they are accomptable for whatsoeuer abuse or corruption which being worthily misliked in this Church the want eyther of care or of conscience in them hath bred We are no Patrones of those things therfore the best defence whereof is speedie redresse amendment That which is of God we defend to the vttermost of that habilitie which he hath giuen that which is otherwise let it wither euen in the roote from whence it hath sprung Wherefore all these abuses being seuered and set apart which rise from the corruption of men and not from the lawes themselues come we to those things which in the very whole intier forme of our Church-politie haue bene as wee perswade our selues iniuriously blamed by them who endeuour to ouerthrow the same and in stead therof to establish a much worse onely through a strong misconceipt they haue that the same is grounded on diuine authoritie Now whether it be that through an earnest longing desire to see things brought to a peaceable end I do but imagine the matters whereof we contend to be fewer then indeed they are or else for that in truth they are fewer when they come to be discust by reason then otherwise they seeme when by heate of contention they are deuided into many slippes and of euery branch an heape is made surely as now wee haue drawne them together choosing out those things which are requisite to bee seuerally all discust and omitting such meane specialties as are likely without any great labour to fall afterwardes of themselues I knowe no cause why either the number or the length of these controuersies should diminish our hope of seeing them end with concord and loue on all sides which of his infinite loue and goodnes the father of all peace and vnitie graunt Vnto which scope that our endeuour may the more directly tend it seemeth fittest that first those thinges be examined which are as seedes from whence the rest that ensue haue growne And of such the most generall is that wherewith we are here to make our entrance a question not mooued I thinke any where in other Churches and therefore in ours the more likely to be soone I trust determined The rather for that it hath grown from no other roote then only a desire to enlarge the necessarie vse of the word of God which desire hath begotten an error enlarging it further then as we are perswaded soundnesse of truth will beare For whereas God hath left sundry kindes of lawes vnto men and by all those lawes the actions of men are in some sort directed they hold that one onely lawe the scripture must be the rule to direct in all thinges euen so farre as to the taking vp of a rush or strawe About which
strength of this so much despised and debased authoritie of man Surely it doth and that oftner then we are aware of For although scripture be of God and therefore the proofe which is taken from thence must needes be of all other most inuincible yet this strength it hath not vnlesse it auouch the selfe same thing for which it is brought If there be eyther vndeniable apparance that so it doth or reason such as cannot deceiue then scripture-proofe no doubt in strength and value exceedeth all But for the most part euen such as are readiest to cite for one thing fiue hundred sentences of holy scripture what warrant haue they that any one of them doth meane the thing for which it is alleaged Is not their surest ground most commonly eyther some probable coniecture of their owne or the iudgement of others taking those Scriptures as they doe Which notwithstanding to meane otherwise then they take them it is not still altogether imposible So that now and then they ground themselues on humane authoritie euen when they most pretend diuine Thus it fareth euen cleane throughout the whole controuersie about that discipline which is so earnestly vrged and laboured for Scriptures are plentifully alleaged to proue that the whole Christian worlde for euer ought to embrace it Hereupon men terme it The discipline of God Howbeit examine sift and resolue their alleaged proofes till you come to the very roote from whence they spring the heart wherein their strength lyeth and it shall clearely appeare vnto any man of iudgement that the most which can be inferred vpon such plentie of diuine testimonies is onely this That some thinges which they maintaine as far as some men can probably coniecture doe seeme to haue bene out of scripture not absurdly gathered Is this a warrant sufficient for any mans conscience to builde such proceedinges vpon as haue beene and are put in vre for the stablishment of that cause But to conclude I would gladly vnderstand how it commeth to passe that they which so peremptorily doe maintaine that humane authoritie is nothing worth are in the cause which they fauour so carefull to haue the common sort of men perswaded that the wisest the godliest and the best learned in all Christendome are that way giuen seeing they iudge this to make nothing in the world for them Againe how commeth it to passe they cannot abide that authoritie should be alleaged on the other side if there be no force at all in authorities on one side or other Wherefore labour they to strip their aduersaries of such furniture as doth not helpe Why take they such needlesse paines to furnish also their owne cause with the like If it be voyd and to no purpose that the names of men are so frequent in their bookes what did moue them to bring them in or doth to suffer them there remaining Ignorant I am not how this is salued They do it not but after the truth made manifest first by reason or by scripture they doe it not but to controule the enemies of the truth who beare themselues bold vpon humane authority making not for them but against them rather Which answeres are nothing For in what place or vpon what consideration soeuer it be they doe it were it in their owne opinion of no force being done they would vndoubtedly refraine to doe it 8 But to the end it may more plainely appeare what we are to iudge of their sentences and of the cause it selfe wherein they are alleaged first it may not well be denied that all actions of men endued with the vse of reason are generally eyther good or euill For although it be granted that no action is properly tearmed good or euill vnlesse it be voluntarie yet this can be no let to our former assertion that all actions of men indued with the vse of reason are generally either good or euill because euen those thinges are done voluntarily by vs which other creatures do naturally in as much as wee might stay our doing of them if wee would Beastes naturally doe take their foode and rest when it offereth it selfe vnto them If men did so too and could not do otherwise of themselues there were no place for any such reproofe as that of our Sauiour Christ vnto his disciples could ye not watch with me one houre That which is voluntarily performed in things tending to the end if it be well done must needes be done with deliberate consideration of some reasonable cause wherefore wee rather should do it thē not Wherupō it seemeth that in such actions only those are said to be good or euil which are capable of deliberatiō so that many things being hourely done by men wherein they need not vse with themselues any manner of consultation at all it may perhaps hereby seeme that well or ill doing belongeth onely to our waightier affaires and to those deeds which are of so great importance that they require aduise But thus to determine were perilous and peraduenture vnsound also I do rather incline to thinke that seeing all the vnforced actiōs of mē are volūtary al volūtary actiōs tēding to the end haue choice al choise presupposeth the knowledge of some cause wherfore we make it wher the reasonable cause of such actiōs so readily offereth it self that it needeth not to be sought for in those things though we do not deliberat yet they are of their nature apt to be deliberated on in regard of the wil which may encline either way and would not any one way bend it self if there were not some apparent motiue to lead it Deliberatiō actuall we vse when there is doubt what we should incline our willes vnto Where no doubt is deliberation is not excluded as impertinent vnto the thing but as needlesse in regard of the agent which seeth already what to resolue vpon It hath no apparent absurditie therefore in it to thinke that all actions of men indued with the vse of reason are generally either good or euill Whatsoeuer is good the same is also approued of God and according vnto the sundrie degrees of goodnesse the kindes of diuine approbation are in like sort multiplyed Some things are good yet in so meane a degree of goodnesse that men are only nor disproued nor disalowed of God for them No man hateth his owne flesh If ye doe good vnto them that doe so to you the very Publicans themselues doe as much They are worse then Infidels that haue no care to prouide for their owne In actions of this sorte the very light of nature alone may discouer that which is so farre forth in the sight of God allowable Some thinges in such sorte are allowed that they be also required as necessary vnto saluation by way of direct immediate and proper necessitie finall so that without performance of them we cannot by ordinary course be saued not by any means be excluded from life obseruing them In actions of this kind
vs to cōforme our indifferent ceremonies to the Turkes which are farre off then to the Papists which are so neare Touching the example of the eldest Churches of God in one councell it was decreed that Christians should not decke their houses with baye leaues and greene boughes because the Pagans did vse so to doe and that they should not rest from their labours those daies that the Pagans did that they should not keepe the first day of euery month as they did Another councell decreed that Christians should not celebrate feastes on the birth daies of the Martyrs because it was the manner of the heathē O saith Tertullian better is the religion of the Heathen for they vse no solemnitie of the Christians neither the Lordes daye neither the Pentecost and if they knew them they would haue nothing to doe with them for they would be afraide least they should seeme Christians but we are not afraid to be called heathen The same Tertullian would not haue Christians to sit after they had prayed because the Idolaters did so Whereby it appeareth that both of particular men and of councels in making or abolishing of ceremonies heed hath bene taken that the Christians should not be like the Idolaters no not in those thinges which of themselues are most indifferent to b● vsed or not vsed The same cōformitie is not lesse opposite vnto reason first in as much as Contraries must be cured by their contraries and therefore Poperie being Antichristianitie is not healed but by establishment of orders thereunto opposite The way to bring a drunken mā to sobrietie is to carry him as far frō excesse of drink as may be To rectifie a crooked sticke we bend it on the contrary side as farre as it was at the first on that side from whence we drawe it and so it commeth in the ende to a middle betweene both which is perfect straightnes Vtter Inconformitie therefore with the Church of Rome in these thinges is the best and surest policie which the Church can vse While we vse their ceremonies they take occasion to blaspheme saying that our religion cannot stand by it selfe vnlesse it leane vpon the staffe of their ceremonies They hereby conceiue great hope of hauing the rest of their popery in the end which hope causeth them to be more frozen in their wickednesse Neither is it without cause that they haue this hope cōsidering that which maister Bucer noteth vpō the 18. of Saint Mathew that where these thinges haue bene left Popery hath returned but on the other part in places which haue bene cleansed of these thinges it hath not yet bene seene that it hath had any entrance None make such clamors for these ceremonies as the Papists and those whom they suborne a manifest token how much they triumph and ioy in these thinges They breede griefe of minde in a number that are godly minded and haue Antichristianitie in such detestation that their mindes are martyred with the very sight of them in the Church Such godly brethren we ought not thus to grieue with vnprofitable ceremonies yea ceremonies wherein there is not onely no profit but also daunger of great hurt that may growe to the Church by infection which popish ceremonies are meanes to breede This in effect is the summe and substance of that which they bring by way of oppositiō against those orders which we haue commō with the church of Rome these are the reasons wherewith they would proue our ceremonies in that respect worthy of blame 4 Before we answere vnto these thinges we are to cut off that wherunto they from whom these obiections proceed do oftentimes flie for defence and succor when the force and strength of their argumēts is elided For the ceremonies in vse amōgst vs being in no other respect retained sauing onely for that to retaine thē is to our seeming good and profitable yea so profitable and so good that if we had either simply taken them cleane away or els remoued them so as to place in their stead others we had done worse the plaine direct way against vs herein had bin only to proue that all such ceremonies as they require to be abolished are retained by vs with the hurt of the Church or with lesse benefit thē the abolishmēt of thē would bring But for as much as they saw how hardly they should be able to perform this they took a more compendious way traducing the ceremonies of our church vnder the name of being popish The cause why this way seemed better vnto them was for that the name of Popery is more odious then very Paganisme amongst diuers of the more simple sorte so as whatsoeuer they heare named popish they presently conceiue deepe hatred against it imagining there cā be nothing cōtained in that name but needs it must be exceeding detestable The eares of the people they haue therfore filled with strong clamor The church of Englād is fraught with popish ceremonies They that fauour the cause of reformatiō maintaine nothing but the sinceritie of the Gospel of Iesus Christ All such as withstand them fight for the lawes of his sworne enemie vphold the filthy reliques of Antichrist and are defenders of that which is popish These are the notes wherewith are drawn from the harts of the multitude so many sighs with these tunes their mindes are exasperated against the lawfull guides and gouernours of their souls these are the voices that fil thē with general discōtentment as though the bosome of that famous Church wherin they liue were more noysome then any dungeon But when the authors of so scandalous incantations are examined and called to account how they can iustifie such their dealings when they are vrged directly to answere whether it be lawfull for vs to vse any such ceremonies as the Church of Rome vseth although the same be not cōmanded in the word of God being driuen to see that the vse of some such ceremonies must of necessitie be granted lawfull they go about to make vs beleeue that they are iust of the same opinion and that they only think such ceremonies are not to be vsed when they are vnprofitable or when as good or better may be established Which answer is both idle in regard of vs and also repugnant to themselues It is in regard of vs very vaine to make this answere because they know that what ceremonies we retaine common vnto the Church of Rome wee therefore retaine them for that we iudge them to be profitable and to be such that others in stead of them would be worse So that when they say that we ought to abrogate such Romish ceremonies as are vnprofitable or els might haue other more profitable in their stead they trifle and they beat the aire about nothing which toucheth vs vnlesse they meane that wee ought to abrogate all Romish ceremonies which in their iudgement haue either no vse or lesse vse then some
other might haue But then must they shewe some commission wherby they are authorized to sit as iudges and we required to take their iudgement for good in this case Otherwise their sentences will not be greatly regarded when they oppose their Me thinketh vnto the orders of the Church of England as in the question about surplesses one of them doth If we looke to the colour blacke me thinketh is more decent if to the forme a garment downe to the foote hath a great deale more cōlinesse in it If they thinke that we ought to proue the ceremonies cōmodious which we haue reteined they do in this point very greatly deceiue themselues For in all right equity that which the Church hath receiued held so long for good that which publique approbation hath ratified must cary the benefit of presumption with it to be accompted meet and conuenient They which haue stood vp as yesterday to challenge it of defect must proue their challenge If we being defendants do answer that the ceremonies in question are godly comely decent profitable for the Church their reply is childish vnorderly to say that we demaund the thing in question shew the pouerty of our cause the goodnes wherof we are faine to begge that our aduersaries would graunt For on our part this must be the aunswere which orderly proceeding doth require The burthen of prouing doth rest on them In them it is friuolous to say we ought not to vse bad ceremonies of the Church of Rome and presume all such bad as it pleaseth themselues to dislike vnlesse we can perswade them the contrary Besides they are herin opposite also to themselues For what one thing is so common with thē as to vse the custome of the Church of Rome for an argument to proue that such such ceremonies cānot be good profitable for vs in as much as that church vseth them Which vsual kind of disputing sheweth that they do not disallow onely those Romish ceremonies which are vnprofitable but count all vnprofitable which are Romish that is to say which haue bene deuised by the Church of Rome or which are vsed in that Church and not prescribed in the word of God For this is the onely limitation which they can vse sutable vnto their other positions And therefore the cause which they yeeld why they hold it lawfull to reteine in Doctrine and in Discipline some things as good which yet are common to the Church of Rome is for that those good things are perpetual commandements in whose place no other can come but ceremonies are changeable So that their iudgement in truth is that whatsoeuer by the word of God is not changeable in the Church of Rome that Churches vsing is a cause why reformed Churches ought to change it and not to thinke it good or profitable And least we seeme to father any thing vpon them more thē is properly their owne let them reade euen their owne words where they complaine that we are thus constrained to be like vnto the Papists in Any their ceremonies yea they vrge that this cause although it were alone ought to moue them to whom that belongeth to do thē away for as much as they are their ceremonies and that the B. of Salisbury doth iustifie this their complaint The clause is vntrue which they adde concerning the B. of Salisbury but the sentence doth shew that we do them no wrōg in setting downe the state of the question betweene vs thus Whether we ought to abolish out of the Church of England all such orders rites and ceremonies as are established in the Church of Rome and are not prescribed in the word of God For the affirmatiue whereof we are now to answer such proofes of theirs as haue bene before alleaged 5 Let the Church of Rome be what it will let them that are of it be the people of God and our fathers in the Christian faith or let them be otherwise hold them for Catholiques or hold them for heretiques it is not a thing either one way or other in this present question greatly material Our conformity with thē in such things as haue bene proposed is not proued as yet vnlawfull by all this S. Augustine hath said yea and we haue allowed his saying That the custome of the people of God and the decrees of our forefathers are to be kept touching those things wherof the scripture hath neither one way nor other giuen vs any charge What then Doth it here therfore follow that they being neither the people of God nor our forefathers are for that cause in nothing to be followed This consequent were good if so be it were graunted that onely the custome of the people of God the decrees of our forefathers are in such case to be obserued But then should no other kind of later laws in the church be good which were a grosse absurdity to think S. Augustines speech therefore doth import that where we haue no diuine precept if yet we haue the custome of the people of God or a decree of our forefathers this is a law and must be kept Notwithstanding it is not denied but that we lawfully may obserue the positiue constitutions of our owne Churches although the same were but yesterday made by our selues alone Nor is there any thing in this to proue that the Church of England might not by law receiue orders rites or customes from the Church of Rome although they were neither the people of God nor yet our forefathers How much lesse when we haue receiued from them nothing but that which they did themselues receiue from such as we cannot deny to haue bene the people of God yea such as either we must acknowledge for our owne forefathers or else disdaine the race of Christ 6 The rites and orders wherein we follow the Church of Rome are of no other kind thē such as the Church of Geneua it selfe doth follow thē in We follow the church of Rome in moe things yet they in some things of the same nature about which our present controuersie is so that the difference is not in the kind but in the number of rites only wherein they and we do follow the Church of Rome The vse of wafer-cakes the custom of godfathers godmothers in baptisme are things not commanded nor forbidden in scripture things which haue bene of old are reteined in the Church of Rome euen at this very hower Is conformity with Rome in such things a blemish vnto the Church of England vnto Churches abroad an ornament Let thē if not for the reuerence they ow vnto this Church in the bowels wherof they haue receiued I trust that pretious and blessed vigor which shall quicken thē to eternall life yet at the leastwise for the singular affection which they do beare towards others take heed how they strike least they wound whom they would not For vndoubtedly it cutteth deeper thē they
of dissimilitude betweene the people of God the heathen nations about thē was any more the cause of forbidding them to put on garments of sundry stuffe then of charging them withall not to sow their fields with mesline or that this was any more the cause of forbidding them to eate swines flesh then of charging them withall not to eate the flesh of Eagles Haukes and the like Wherefore although the Church of Rome were to vs as to Israell the Aegyptians and Cananites were of old yet doth it not follow that the wisedome of God without respect doth teach vs to erect betweene vs and them a partition wall of difference in such things indifferent as haue bene hitherto disputed of 7 Neither is the example of the eldest Churches a whit more auaileable to this purpose Notwithstanding some fault vndoubtedly there is in the very resemblance of Idolaters Were it not some kind of blemish to be like vnto Infidels and Heathens it would not so vsually be obiected men would not thinke it any aduantage in the causes of Religion to be able therewith iustly to charge their aduersaries as they do Wherefore to the ende that it may a little more plainely appeare what force this hath and how farre the same extendeth we are to note howe all men are naturally desirous that they may seeme neither to iudge not to do ●misse because euery errour and offence●s staine to the beauty of nature for which cause it blusheth thereat but glorieth in the contrary From thence it riseth that they which disgrace or depresse the credit of others do it either in bothe or in one of these To haue bene in either directed by a weake and vnperfect rule argueth imbecillity and imperfection Men being either led by reason or by imitation of other mens example if their persons be odious whose example we choose to follow as namely if we frame our opinions to that which condemned heretiques thinke or direct our actions according to that which is practised and done by them it lieth as an heauy preiudice against vs vnlesse somewhat mightier then their bare example did moue vs to thinke or do the same things with thē Christian mē therfore hauing besides the common light of all men so great helpe of heauenly directions from aboue together with the lampes of so bright examples as the Church of God doth yeeld it cannot but worthily seeme reprochfull for vs to leaue both the one and the other to become disciples vnto the most hatefull sort that liue to do as they do onely because we see their example before vs and haue a delight to follow it Thus we may therefore safely conclude that it is not euill simply to concurre with the Heathens either in opinion or in action and that conformitie with them is onely then a disgrace when either we follow them in that they thinke and do amisse or followe them generally in that they do without other reason then only the liking we haue to the paterne of their example which liking doth intimate a more vniuersall approbation of them then is allowable Faustus the Manichey therfore obiecting against the Iewes that they forsooke the Idols of the Gentiles but their temples oblations Altars and Priesthoods and all kinds of ministery of holy things they exercised euen as the Gentiles did yea more superstitiously a great deale against the Catholike Christians likewise that betweene them and the Heathens there was in many things little difference From them sayth Faustus ye haue learned to hold that one onely God is the Author of all their sacrifices ye haue turned into feasts of charitie their idols into Martyrs whom ye honour with the like religious offices vnto theirs the ghosts of the dead ye appease with wine and delicates the festiuall dayes of the Nations ye celebrate together with them and of their kind of life ye haue verily changed nothing S. Augustines defence in behalfe of bothe is that touching the matters of action Iewes Catholique Christians were free frō the Gentiles faultines euen in those things which were obiected as tokens of their agreemēt with the Gentiles concerning their consent in opinion they did not hold the same with Gentils because Gentils had so taught but because heauen earth had so witnessed the same to be truth that neither the one sort could erre in being fully perswaded thereof nor the other but erre in case they should not consent with them In things of their owne nature indifferent if either Coūcels or particular mē haue at any time with sound iudgement misliked conformity betweene the Church of God Infidels the cause therof hath bin somwhat else then only affectation of dissimilitude They saw it necessary so to do in respect of some speciall accident which the Church being not alwaies subiect vnto hath not stil cause to do the like For exāple in the dangerous daies of trial wherein there was no way for the truth of Iesus Christ to triumph ouer infidelitie but through the constancy of his Saints whom yet a naturall desire to saue themselues from the flame might peraduenture cause to ioyne with Pagans in externall customes too farre vsing the same as a cloake to conceale themselues in and a mist to darken the eyes of Infidels withall for remedy hereof those lawes it might be were prouided which forbad that Christians should decke their houses with boughes as the Pagans did vse to do or rest those festiuall dayes whereon the Pagans rested or celebrate such feasts as were though not Heathenish yet such that the simpler sort of Heathens might be beguiled in so thinking thē As for Tertullians iudgement concerning the rites and orders of the Church no man hauing iudgement can be ignorant how iust exceptions may be taken against it His opinion touching the Catholike Church was as vnindifferent as touching our Church the opinion of them that fauour this pretended reformation is He iudged all them who did not Montanize to be but carnally minded he iudged them still ouer-abiectly to fawne vpon the Heathens and to curry fauour with Infidels Which as the Catholique Church did well prouide that they might not do indeed so Tertullian ouer-often through discontentment carpeth iniuriously at them as though they did it euen when they were free from such meaning But if it were so that either the iudgement of those counsels before alleaged or of Tertullian himselfe against the Christians are in no such consideration to be vnderstood as we haue mentioned if it were so that men are condemned as well of the one as of the other onely for vsing the ceremonies of a religion contrary vnto their owne that this cause is such as ought to preuaile no lesse with vs then with them shall it not follow that seeing there is still betweene our religion and Paganisme the selfe same contrarietie therefore we are still no lesse rebukeable if we now decke our houses with
boughes or send New yeares-gifts vnto our friends or feast on those dayes which the Gentiles then did or sit after prayer as they were accustomed For so they inferre vpon the premises that as great difference as commodiously may be there should be in all outward ceremonies betweene the people of God and them which are not his people Againe they teach as hath bene declared that there is not as great a difference as may be betweene them except the one do auoide whatsoeuer rites and ceremonies vncommanded of God the other doth embrace So that generally they teach that the very difference of spirituall condition it selfe betweene the seruants of Christ and others requireth such difference in ceremonies betweene them although the one be neuer so farre disioyned in time or place from the other But in case the people of God and Belial do chaunce to be neighbours then as the daunger of infection is greater so the same difference they say is thereby made more necessary In this respect as the Iewes were seuered from the Heathen so most especially from the Heathen neerest them And in the same respect we which ought to differ howsoeuer from the Church of Rome are now they say by reason of our meerenesse more bound to differ from them in ceremonies then from Turkes A straunge kind of speech vnto Christian eares and such as I hope they themselues do acknowledge vnaduisedly vttered We are not so much to feare infection from Turkes as from Papists What of that we must remember that by conforming rather our selues in that respect to Turkes we should be spreaders of a worse infection into others then any we are likely to draw from Papists by our conformity with them in ceremonies If they did hate as Turkes do the Christians or as Cananites of old did the Iewish religion euen in grosse the circumstance of locall neernes in them vnto vs might happily enforce in vs a duty of greater separation from them then from those other mentioned But for as much as Papists are so much in Christ neerer vnto vs then Turkes is there any reasonable man trow you but will iudge it meeter that our ceremonies of Christian religion should be Popish then Turkish or Heathenish Especially considering that we were not brought to dwell amongst them as Israell in Canaan hauing not bene of them For euen a very part of them we were And when God did by his good Spirit put it into our hearts first to reforme our selues whence grew our separation and then by all good meanes to seeke also their reformation had we not onely cut off their corruptions but also estranged our selues from them in things indifferent who seeth not how greatly preiudiciall this might haue bene to so good a cause and what occasion it had giuen them to thinke to their greater obduration in euill that through a froward or wanton desire of innouation wee did vnconstrainedly those thinges for which conscience was pretended Howsoeuer the case doth stand as Iuda had beene rather to choose conformity in things indifferent with Israell when they were neerest opposites then with the farthest remoued Pagans So we in like case much rather with Papists then with Turkes I might adde further for more full and complete answere so much concerning the large oddes betweene the case of the eldest Churches in regard of those Heathens and ours in respect of the Church of Rome that very cauillation it selfe should be satisfied and haue no shift to flye vnto 8 But that no one thing may deteine vs ouer long I returne to their reasons against our conformity with that Church That extreme dissimilitude which they vrge vpon vs is now commended as our best safest policie for establishment of sound religion The ground of which politique position is that Euils must be cured by their contraries therfore the cure of the Church infected with the poyson of Antichristianity must be done by that which is therunto as cōtrary as may be A medled estate of the orders of the Gospell the ceremonies of popery is not the best way to banish popery We are cōtrarywise of opiniō that he which will perfectly recouer a sicke and restore a diseased body vnto health must not endeuor so much to bring it to a state of simple cōtrariety as of fit proportion in contrariety vnto those euils which are to be cured He that will take away extreme heat by setting the body in extremity of cold shall vndoubtedly remoue the disease but together with it the diseased too The first thing therefore in skilfull cures is the knowledge of the part affected the next is of the euill which do affect it the last is not onely of the kind but also of the measure of contrary things whereby to remoue it They which measure religion by dislike of the Church of Rome thinke euery man so much the more sound by how much he can make the corruptions thereof to seeme more large And therefore some there are namely the Arrians in reformed Churches of Poland which imagine the cancre to haue eaten so far into the very bones and marrow of the Church of Rome as if it had not so much as a sound beliefe no not cōcerning God himselfe but that the very beliefe of the Trinity were a part of Antichristian corruption and that the wonderfull prouidence of God did bring to passe that the Bishop of the Sea of Rome should be famous for his triple crowne a sensible marke whereby the world might know him to be that mysticall beast spoken of in the Reuelation to be that great and notorious Antichrist in no one respect so much as in this that he maintaineth the doctrine of the Trinity Wisdome therefore and skill is requisite to knowe what parts are sound in that Church and what corrupted Neither is it to all men apparant which complaine of vnsound parts with what kind of vnsoundnesse euery such part is possessed They can say that in Doctrine in Discipline in Prayers in Sacraments the Church of Rome hath as it hath in deede very foule and grosse corruptions the nature whereof notwithstanding because they haue not for the most part exact skill and knowledge to discerne they thinke that amisse many times which is not and the salue of reformation they mightily call for but where and what the sores are which need it as they wote full little so they thinke it not greatly materiall to search Such mens contentment must be wrought by stratageme the vsuall methode of art is not for them But with those that professe more then ordinary common knowledge of good from euill with them that are able to put a difference betweene things naught things indifferent in the Church of Rome we are yet at controuersie about the maner of remouing that which is naught whether it may not be perfectly helpt vnlesse that also which is indifferent be cut off with it so farre till no rite or ceremony remaine which
the Church of Rome hath being not found in the word of God If we thinke this to extreme they reply that to draw mē frō great excesse it is not amisse though we vse them vnto somewhat lesse then is competent that a crooked stick is not stieightned vnlesse it be bent as farre on the cleane contrary side that so it may settle it selfe at the length in a middle estate of euennes between both But how can these cōparisons stand them in any steed When they vrge vs to extreme opposition against the Church of Rome do they meane we should be drawne vnto it onely for a time and afterwards returne to a mediocrity or was it the purpose of those reformed churches which vtterly abolished all popish ceremonies to come in the end back againe to the middle point of euennesse and moderation Then haue we conceiued amisse of their meaning For we haue alwaies thought their opinion to be that vtter inconformity with the Church of Rome was not an extremity wherunto we should be drawne for a time but the very mediocrity it selfe wherein they meant we should euer continue Now by these comparisons it seemeth cleane contrarie that howsoeuer they haue bent themselues at first to an extreme contrariety against the Romish Church yet therin they wil continue no longer then only till such time as some more moderate course for establishmēt of the Church may be concluded Yea albeit this were not at the first their intent yet surely now there is great cause to leade thē vnto it They haue seene that experience of the former policie which may cause the authors of it to hang downe their heads When Germany had strickē off that which appeared corrupt in the doctrine of the Church of Rome but seemed neuerthelesse in discipline still to reteine therewith very great conformitie Fraunce by that rule of policie which hath bene before mentioned tooke away the Popish orders which Germany did reteine But processe of time hath brought more light vnto the world whereby men perceiuing that they of the religion in France haue also reteined some orders which were before in the Church of Rome and are not commaunded in the word of God there hath arisen a sect in England which following still the very selfe same rule of policie seeketh to reforme euen the French reformation and purge out from thence also dregs of Popery These haue not taken as yet such roote that they are ●able to establish any thing But if they had what would spring out of their stocke and how farre the vnquiet wit of man might be caried with rules of such policie God doth know The triall which we haue liued to see may somewhat teach vs what posteritie is to feare But our Lord of his infinite mercie auert whatsoeuer euill our swaruings on the one hand or on the other may threaten vnto the state of his Church 9 That the Church of Rome doth hereby take occasion to blaspheme and to say our religion is not able to stand of it selfe vnlesse it leane vpon the staffe of their Ceremonies is not a matter of so great momēt that it did need to be obiected or doth deserue to receiue answer The name of blasphemy in this place is like the shoe of Hercules on a childs foote If the Church of Rome do vse any such kind of silly exprobration it is no such ougly thing to the eare that we should thinke the honour and credite of our religion to receiue thereby any great wound They which hereof make so perilous a matter do seeme to imagine that we haue erected of late a frame of some new religion the furniture whereof we should not haue borrowed from our enemies least they relieuing vs might afterwards laugh and gibe at our pouerty whereas in truth the Ceremonies which we haue taken from such as were before vs are not things that belong to this or to that sect but they are the auncient rites and customes of the Church of Christ whereof our selues being a part we haue the selfe same interest in them which our fathers before vs had from whom the same are descended vnto vs. Againe in case we had bene so much beholding priuately vnto them doth the reputation of one Church stand by saying vnto another I need thee not If some should be so vrine and impotent as to marre a benefite with reprochfull vpbraiding where at the least they suppose themselues to haue bestowed some good turne yet surely a wise bodies part it were not to put out his fire because his fond and foolish neighbour from whom he borrowed peraduenture wherewith to kindle it might happily cast him therewith in the teeth saying were it not for me thou wouldest freeze and not be able to heate thy selfe As for that other argument deriued from the secret affection of Papists with whom our conformitie in certaine Ceremonies is sayd to put them in great hope that their whole religion in time will haue reentrance and therefore none are so clamorous amongst vs for the obseruation of these Ceremonies as Papists and such as Papists suborne to speake for them whereby it clearely appeareth how much they reioyce how much they triumph in these things our aunswere hereunto is still the same that the benefite we haue by such ceremonies ouerweigheth euen this also No man which is not exceeding partiall can well deny but that there is most iust cause wherefore we should be offended greatly at the Church of Rome Notwithstanding at such times as we are to deliberate for our selues the freer our minds are from all distempered affections the sounder better is our iudgemēt When we are in a fretting mood at the Church of Rome and with that angry disposition enter into any cogitation of the orders rites of our Church taking particular suruey of them we are sure to haue alwayes one eye fixed vpon the countenance of our enemies and according to the blith or heauy aspect thereof our other eye sheweth some other sutable token either of dislike or approbation towards our owne orders For the rule of our iudgement in such case being onely that of Homer This is the thing which our enemies would haue what they seeme contented with euen for that very cause we reiect there is nothing but it pleaseth vs much the better if we espy that it gauleth them Miserable were the state condition of that Church the waighty affaires whereof should be ordered by those deliberations wherein such an humor as this were perdominant We haue most heartily to thanke God therefore that they amongst vs to whom the first consultations of causes of this kind fell were men which aiming at another marke namely the glorie of God and the good of this his Church tooke that which they iudged thereunto necessary not reiecting any good or conuenient thing onely because the Church of Rome might perhaps like it If we haue that which is meere and right although
they be glad we are not to enuie them this their solace we do not thinke it a duty of ours to be in euery such thing their tormentors And whereas it is said that Popery for want of this vtter extirpation hath in some places taken roote and florished againe but hath not beene able to reestablish it selfe in any place after prouision made against it by vtter euacuation of all Romish ceremonies and therefore as long as we hold any thing like vnto them we put them in some more hope then if all were taken away as we deny not but this may be true so being of two euils to chuse the lesse we hold it better that the friends and fauorers of the Church of Rome should be in some kind of hope to haue a corrupt religion restored then both we and they conceiue iust feare least vnder colour of rooting out Popery the most effectuall meanes to beare vp the state of religion be remooued and so a way made either for Paganisme or for extreme barbāritie to enter If desire of weakening the hope of others should turne vs away from the course we haue taken how much more the care of preuenting our owne feare withhold vs from that wee are vrged vnto Especially seeing that our owne feare we knowe but wee are not so certaine what hope the rites and orders of our Church haue bred in the hearts of others For it is no sufficient argument thereof to say that in maintaining and vrging these ceremonies none are so clamorous as Papists and they whom Papists suborne this speech being more hard to iustifie then the former and so their proofe more doubtfull then the thing it selfe which they proue He that were certaine that this is true must haue marked who they be that speake for Ceremonies he must haue noted who amongst them doth speake oftnest or is most earnest he must haue bene both acquainted throughly with the religion of such and also priuy what conferences or compacts are passed in secret betweene them and others which kinds of notice are not wont to be vulgar and common Yet they which alleage this would haue it taken as a thing that needeth no proofe a thing which all men know and see And if so be it were graunted them as true what gaine they by it Sundry of them that be Popish are eger in maintenance of Ceremonies Is it so strange a matter to find a good thing furthered by ill men of a sinister intent and purpose whose forwardnesse is not therefore a bridle to such as fauour the same cause with a better and sincerer meaning They that seeke as they say the remouing of all Popish orders out of the Church and reckon the state of Bishop in the number of those orders do I doubt not presume that the cause which they prosecute is holy Notwithstanding it is their owne ingenuous acknowledgement that euen this very cause which they terme so often by an excellency The Lords cause is gratissima most acceptable vnto some which hope for pray and spoile by it and that our age hath store of such and that such are the very sectaries of Dionysius the famous Atheist Now if hereupon we should vpbraide them with irreligious as they do vs with superstitious fauourers if we should follow them in their owne kind of pleading and say that the most clamorous for this pretended reformation are either Atheists or else proctors suborned by Atheists the answer which herein they would make vnto vs let them apply vnto themselues and there an end For they must not forbid vs to presume or cause in defence of our Church-orders to be as good as theirs against them till the contrary be made manifest to the world 10 In the meane while sory we are that any good and godly mind should be grieued with that which is done But to remedy their griefe lieth not so much in vs as in themselues They do not wish to be made glad with the hurt of the Church and to remoue all out of the Church whereat they shew themselues to be sorrowfull would be as we are perswaded hurtfull if not pernitious thereunto Till they be able to perswade the contrary they must and will I doubt not find out some other good meanes to cheere vp themselues Amongst which meanes the example of Geneua may serue for one Haue not they the old Popish custome of vsing Godfathers and Godmothers in Baptisme the old Popish custome of administring the blessed Sacrament of the holy Eucharist with Wafer cakes Those thing● the godly there can digest Wherefore should not the godly here learne to do the like both in them and in the rest of the like nature Some further meane peraduenture it might be to asswage their griefe if so be they did cōsider the reuenge they take on them which haue bene as they interpret it the workers of their continuance in so great griefe so long For if the maintenance of Ceremonies be a corrosiue to such as oppugne them vndoubtedly to such as mainteine them it can be no great pleasure when they behold how that which they reuerence is oppugned And therefore they that iudge themselues Martyrs when they are grieued should thinke withall what they are when they grieue For we are still to put them in mind that the cause doth make no difference for that it must be presumed as good at the least on our part as on theirs till it be in the end decided who haue stood for truth and who for error So that till then the most effectuall medicine and withall the most sound to ease their griefe must not be in our opinion the taking away of those things whereat they are grieued but the altering of that perswasion which they haue concerning the same For this we therefore both pray and labour the more because we are also perswaded that it is but conceipt in them to thinke that those Romish Ceremonies whereof we haue hetherto spoken are like leprous clothes infectious vnto the Church or like soft and gentle poysons the venome whereof being insensibly pernicious worketh death and yet is neuer felt working Thus they say but because they say it onely and the world hath not as yet had so great experience of their art in curing the diseases of the Church that the bare authoritie of their word should perswade in a cause so waightie they may not thinke much if it be required at their hands to shewe first by what meanes so deadly infection can growe from similitude betweene vs and the Church of Rome in these thinges indifferent Secondly for that it were infinite if the Church should prouide against euery such euill as may come to passe it is not sufficient that they shewe possibilitie of dangerous euent vnlesse there appeare some likelihood also of the same to follow in vs except we preuent it Nor is this inough vnlesse it be moreouer made plaine that there is no good and
scandalous at certain times and in certaine places and to certaine men the open vse thereof neuerthelesse being otherwise without daunger The verie nature of some rites and Ceremonies therfore is scandalous as it was in a number of those which the Manichees did vse and is in all such as the law of God doth forbid Some are offensiue only through the agreement of men to vse them vnto euill and not else as the most of those thinges indifferent which the Heathens did to the seruice of their false Gods which an other in heart condemning their idolatrie could not doe with them in shew and token of approbation without being guiltie of scandall giuen Ceremonies of this kinde are either deuised at the first vnto euill as the Eunomian Heretiques in dishonour of the blessed Trinitie brought in the laying on of water but once to crosse the custom of the Church which in Baptisme did it thrise or else hauing had a profitable vse they are afterwards interpreted and wrested to the contrarie as those Heretiques which held the Trinitie to be three distinct not persons but natures abused the Ceremonie of three times laying on water in Baptisme vnto the strengthning of their heresie The element of water is in Baptisme necessarie once to lay it on or twice is indifferent For which cause Gregorie making mention thereof sayth To diue an infant either thrice or but once in Baptisme can be no way a thing reproueable seeing that both in three times washing the Trinitie of persons and in one the Vnitie of Godhead may be signified So that of these two Ceremonies neither being hurtfull in it selfe both may serue vnto good purpose yet one was deuised and the other conuerted vnto euill Now whereas in the Church of Rome certaine Ceremonies are said to haue bene shamefully abused vnto euill as the Ceremonie of Crossing at Baptisme of kneeling at the Eucharist of vsing Wafer-cakes and such like the question is whether for remedie of that euill wherein such Ceremonies haue bene scandalous and perhaps may be still vnto some euen amongst our selues whome the presence and sight of them may confirme in that former error whereto they serued in times past they are of necessitie to be remoued Are these or any other Ceremonies wee haue common with the Church of Rome scandalous and wicked in their verie nature This no man obiecteth Are any such as haue bene polluted from their verie birth and instituted euen at the first vnto that thing which is euill That which hath bene ordeyned impiously at the first may weare out that impietie in tract of time and then what doth let but that the vse thereof may stand without offence The names of our monethes and of our dayes wee are not ignorant from whence they came and with what dishonour vnto God they are said to haue bene deuised at the first What could be spoken against any thing more effectuall to stirre hatred then that which sometime the auncient Fathers in this case speake Yet those very names are at this day in vse throughout Christendome without hurt or scandall to any Cleare and manifest it is that thinges deuised by Heretiques yea deuised of a very hereticall purpose euen against religion and at their first deuising worthy to haue bene withstood may in time growe meete to be kept as that custome the inuentors wherof were the Eunomian Heretiques So that customes once established and confirmed by long vse being presently without harme are not in regard of their corrupt originall to be held scandalous But cōcerning those our Ceremonies which they reckon for most Popish they are not able to auouch that any of them was otherwise instituted thē vnto good yea so vsed at the first It followeth then that they all are such as hauing serued to good purpose were afterward conuerted vnto the contrary And sith it is not so much as obiected against vs that we reteine together with them the euil wherwith they haue bin infected in the Church of Rome I would demand who they are whom we scandalize by vsing harmles things vnto that good end for which they were first instituted Amongst our selues that agree in the approbation of this kinde of good vse no man wil say that one of vs is offensiue and scandalous vnto another As for the fauorers of the church of Rome they know how far we herein differ dissent frō them which thing neither we conceale they by their publike writings also professe daily how much it grieueth them so that of thē there will not many rise vp against vs as witnesses vnto the inditement of scandal whereby we might be cōdemned cast as hauing strengthned thē in that euil wherwith they pollute themselues in the vse of the same Ceremonies And concerning such as withstād the Church of England herein hate it because it doth not sufficiently seeme to hate Rome they I hope are far enough frō being by this meane drawne to any kind of popish error The multitude therfore of them vnto whom we are scādalous through the vse of abused ceremonies is not so apparēt that it can iustly be said in general of any one sort of mē or other we cause thē to offend If it be so that now or thē some few are espied who hauing bin accustomed heretofore to the rites ceremonies of the Church of Rome are not so scowred of their former rust as to forsake their auncient perswasiō which they haue had howsoeuer they frame thēselues to outward obedience of laws orders because such may misconster the meaning of our ceremonies and so take thē as though they were in euery sort the same they haue bin shal this be thought a reason sufficiēt wheron to cōclude that some law must necessarily be made to abolish al such ceremonies They answer that there is no law of God which doth bind vs to reteine thē And S. Pauls rule is that in those things frō which without hurt we may lawfully absteine we should frame the vsage of our libertie with regard to the weakenes and imbecillitie of our brethren Wherefore vnto them which stood vpon their owne defence saying All things are lawfull vnto me he replyeth But all things are not expedient in regard of others All things are cleane all meates are lawfull but euill vnto that man that eateth offensiuely If for thy meates ●ake thy brother bee grieued thou walkest no longer according to charitie Destroy not him with thy meate for whome Christ dyed Dissolue not for foodes sake the worke of God Wee that are strong must beare the imbecillities of the impotent and not please our selues It was a weakenesse in the Christian Iewes and a maime of iudgement in them that they thought the Gentiles polluted by the eating of those meates which themselues were afraid to touch for feare of transgressing the lawe of Moses yea hereat their hearts did so much rise that the Apostle had iust cause to feare least
thē are the same which the Church of Rome vseth Eccles. discipl fol. 12. T.C. lib. 1. p. 131. T.C. lib. 1. p. 20. T.C. lib. 1. p. 25 T.C. l. 1. p. 13● T.C. l. 1. p. 30. T.C. l. 1. p. 131. T.C. l. 1. p. 132 Tom. 2. Br●● 73. Con. Africa cap. 27. Lib. de Idololatria He seemeth to mean the feast of Easter day celebrated in the memory of our Sauiours resurrection and for that cause termed the Lords day Lib. de Anima T.C. l. 3. p. 178. T.C. l. 3. p. 17● T.C. l. 3. p. 180. That wheras they who blame vs in this behalfe whē reason euicteth that all such ceremonies are not to be abolished make answere that when they condemne popish ceremonies their meaning is of ceremonies vnprofitable or ceremonies in stead wherof as good or better may be deuised they cannot hereby get out of the briers but contradict and gainesay themselues in as much as their vsuall maner is to proue that ceremonies vncommaunded of God and yet vsed in the Church of Rome are for this very cause vnprofitable to vs and not so good as others in their place would be T.C. lib. p. 171. What an open vntruth is it that this is one of our principles not to be lawful to vse the same ceremonies which the Papists did when as I haue both before declared the contrary and euen here haue expressely added that they are not to be vsed when as good or better way be established Ecclesi discipl fol. 100. T.C. l. 3. p. 176. As for your oft●̄ repeating tha● the ceremonies in question are godly comely decent it is your old wont of demaunding the thing in question and an vndoubted argument of your extreme pouerty T.C. l. p. 174. T.C. l. 3. p. 177. And that this complaint of ●urs is iust in that we are thus constrained to be like vnto th● Papists in any their ceremonies and that this cause only ought to moue ●hem to whom that belongeth to do theirs away for as much 〈◊〉 they are their ceremonies the Reader may further se● in the B. of Salisbury who brings diuerse proofes thereof That our allowing the customes of our fathers to be followed is no proofe that we may not allow some customes which the Church of Rome hath although we do not accōpt of them as of our fathers That the course which the wisedome of God doth teach maketh not against our conformitie with the Church of Rome in such things T.C. lib. 1. p. 89. 131. Leuit. 18.3 Leuit. 19.27 Leuit. 19.19 Deut. 22.11 Deut. 14.7 Leuit. 11. Ephes. 2.14 Leuit. 18.3 Leuit. 19.27 Leuit. 21.5 Deut. 14.1 1. Thes. 4.13 Leuit. 19.19 Deut. 22.11 Deut. 14.7 Leuit. 11. Leuit. 19.19 Deut. 14. Leuit. 11. Eph. 2.14 That the exāple of the eldest Churches is not herein against vs. T.C. l. 1. p. 132. The Councels although they did not obserue themselues alwaies in making of decrees this rule yet haue kept this consideration continually in making of their lawes that they would haue the Christians differ from others in their ceremonies To. 6. cont Faust. M●nich lib. 20. cap. 4. T.C. l. 1. p. 132. Also it was decreed in ●nother Councell that they should not decke their houses with bay leaues greene boughes because the Pagans did vses● and that they should not rest from their la●or those daies that the Pagans did that they should not keepe the first day of euery moneth as they did T.C. l. 3. p. 132 Tertul. saith O sayth he better is the religion of the Heathen for they vse no solemnitie of the Christians neither the Lords day neither c but we are not afraid to be called Heathen T.C. l. 1. p. 133. But hauing shewed this in generall to be the politie of God first and of h●● people afterwards to put as much difference as can be commodiously betweene the people of God and others which are not I shall not c. That it is not our best policy for the establishment of sound religion to haue in these thinges no agreement with the Church of Rome being vnsound T.C. l. 1. p. 132 Common reason also doth teach that contraries are cured by their contraries Now Christianity and Antichristianity the Gospell and Popery be contra●ies and therefore Antichristianitie must be cured not by itselfe but by that which is as much as may be contrary vnto it T.C. l. 1. p. 132 If a man would bring a drunken man to sobrietie the best and nearest way is to carry him as farre from his excesse in drinke as may be and if a man could not keepe a meane it were better to fault in prescribing lesse them he should drinke thē to fault in giuing him more then he ought As we see to bring a sticke which is crooked to be straight we do not only how it so farre vntill it come to be straight but we bend it so farre vntill we make it so crooked of the other side as it was before of the first side to this end that at the last it may stand straight and as it were in the midway betweene both the crookes That we are not to abolish our Ceremonies either because Papists vpbraide vs as hauing taken from them or for that they are sayd hereby to conceiue I know not what great hopes T.C. l. 3. p. 178. By vsing of these Ceremonies the Papists take occasion to blaspheme saying that our religion cannot stand by it selfe vnlesse it l●●ue vpon the staffe of their Ceremonies T.C. l. 1. p. 179. To proue the Papists triumph and ioy in these things I alleaged further that there are ●o●e which make such clamors for these ceremonies as the Papists and those which they suborne 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 T.C. l. 3. p. 179. Thus they conceiuing hope of hauing the rest of their poperie in the end it causeth them to be more frozen in their wickednesse c. For not the cause but the occasion also ought to be taken away c. Although let the reader iudge whether they haue cause giuen to hope that the tails of Popery yet remaining they shall the easilier hale in the whole body after considering also that Maister Bucer noteth that where these things haue bene left there Popery hath returned but on the other part in places which haue bene clensed of these dregs it hath not bin seene that it hath had any entrance Ecclesi dis● fol. 94. T.C. l. 3. p. 180. There be numbers which haue Antichristianitie in such detestation that they c●●not without griefe of mind behold them And afterwards such godly brethren are not easily to be grieued which they seeme to be when they are thus martyred in their minds for ceremonies which to speake the best of them are vnprofitable The griefe which they say godly brethren conceiue in regard of such Ceremonies as we haue common with the Church of Rome T.C. l. 3. p. 171 Although the corruptions in them sticke not straight to the heart yet as gentle