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distinction_n be_v without_o question_n i_o answer_v god_n action_n of_o execution_n wrought_v in_o time_n do_v indeed_o represent_v god_n eternal_a will_n of_o execution_n for_o the_o will_n of_o execution_n be_v no_o more_o but_o a_o disposition_n of_o execution_n or_o the_o execution_n itself_o preconceive_a in_o the_o mind_n of_o god_n as_o the_o author_n allege_v do_v true_o speak_v in_o this_o sense_n mr._n mountagu_n say_v true_o so_o save_v be_v so_o ordain_v by_o god_n whatsoever_o come_v to_o pass_v come_v so_o to_o pass_v because_o god_n have_v say_v so_o and_o no_o otherwise_o it_o shall_v come_v to_o pass_v gag_n page_n 177._o the_o one_o be_v original_a of_o the_o other_o and_o the_o one_o be_v evidence_n of_o the_o other_o appeal_v page_n 61._o but_o this_o be_v not_o to_o our_o purpose_n for_o we_o speak_v not_o of_o predestination_n as_o it_o contain_v god_n will_n of_o execution_n but_o of_o intention_n the_o act_n of_o god_n do_v in_o time_n do_v not_o represent_v 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it_o be_v not_o a_o inference_n make_v from_o a_o act_n of_o temporal_a execution_n that_o can_v be_v a_o sufficient_a ground_n to_o enjoin_v we_o to_o believe_v it_o but_o such_o revelation_n there_o be_v none_o therefore_o we_o may_v conclude_v there_o be_v no_o such_o reason_n lead_v god_n to_o predestine_v this_o or_o that_o man_n unto_o glory_n here_o i_o may_v inquire_v of_o m._n mountagu_n whether_o he_o have_v read_v this_o answer_n &_o other_o like_v unto_o it_o or_o not_o one_o of_o they_o be_v certain_o true_a if_o he_o have_v not_o read_v it_o where_o be_v his_o transcendent_a read_n he_o so_o much_o do_v vaunt_v of_o where_o be_v that_o divine_a that_o so_o often_o call_v other_o ignorant_a poor_a and_o scummer_n upon_o the_o surface_n and_o such_o like_a term_n now_o these_o poor_a divine_n these_o simple_a
be_v without_o blame_n by_o object_v against_o the_o person_n and_o plea_n of_o they_o that_o stand_v against_o you_o of_o their_o person_n you_o say_v they_o be_v puritan_n self-conceited_a presumptuous_a maligner_n at_o state_n irregular_a love_v parity_n factious_a turbulent_a page_z â—_o 3._o over_o precise_a professor_n p._n 4._o malicious_n p._n 5._o hornet_n ill_o affect_v pure_a brethren_n great_a rabine_n in_o israel_n who_o pen_n and_o pulpit_n be_v infallible_a in_o judgement_n page_n 6._o popular-spirit_n singular_a illuminate_v simple_a ignoranâ—ees_n classical_a dictator_n groner_n for_o parochial_a pope_n p._n 7._o partiaries_n p._n 14._o peremptory_a resolve_v conclusive_a false_a slanderer_n p._n 15._o calumniator_n indirect_a dealer_n p._n 22._o man_n of_o cheverellised_a conscience_n calumniator_n neither_o honest_a nor_o plain_a have_v presbyterian_a trick_n of_o legerdemain_n p._n 23._o traducer_n saint-seeming_a bible-bearing_a hypocritical_a puritan_n gloser_n 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depth_n of_o the_o question_n scum_n upon_o the_o surface_n gibberish_n they_o can_v tell_v for_o what_o page_n 248._o pigmy_n of_o this_o time_n p._n 273._o youngling_n p._n 274._o of_o uncircumcised_a lip_n p._n 275._o of_o your_o short_a cut_n singular_a in_o their_o own_o conceit_n such_o as_o ramble_v and_o be_v ready_a to_o grind_v the_o tooth_n p._n 279._o furious_a puritan_n p._n 281._o ignorant_n insolent_a arrogant_a presumptuous_a 283._o good_a brethren_n seem_v holy_a and_o precise_a tormentor_n of_o word_n malicious_a detractor_n 285._o breed_v and_o send_v abroad_o by_o the_o devil_n to_o maintain_v a_o faction_n p._n 291._o neither_o discreet_a nor_o moderate_a nor_o understand_v divine_n 293._o foore_n man_n that_o meddle_v beyond_o their_o lachet_n and_o be_v out_o of_o their_o element_n p._n 295._o ignaroes_n intolerable_a insolent_a malicious_a traducer_n of_o puritanical_a quicksilver_n spirit_n p._n 304._o such_o as_o love_v faction_n and_o division_n p._n 305._o 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