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A30032 New Rome unmask'd and her foundation shaken by a farther discovery of the grand errors, deep hypocrisies, popish practices, and pernitious principles of the teachers and leaders of the people call'd Quakers : containing also a brief answer to three books wrote by G. Whitehead, one of her chief cardinals ... against Fran. Bugg ... : as also a brief narrative between the said G. Whitehead and Fran. Bugg ... / by Francis Bugg. Bugg, Francis, 1640-1724? 1692 (1692) Wing B5378; ESTC R34387 122,825 141

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Truth and Equity of his cause might appear that his Name and Fame his Estimation and Reputation in this World both as a Man and Christian might not be blasted by the slanderous Tongues and Pens of the malitious Papists who then as their off-spring now studied how they might blast the Name Fame and Reputation of such as opposed them and himself to live no longer in Obloquy or Scorn under the Name of Heretick or a self-condemned Apostate as he had for Nine or Ten years together In whom also he found his Family and Kindred rebuked and under some reproach for his sake and he no way able to clear himself unless his Prince would grant him Audience And as this was his case so have I found something of the same Nature from Geo. Whitehead Sam. Cater and the rest of that Tribe who in most things so far as their power reaches follow the Track of the Papists And for proof of what I here lay down I must refer the Reader to my Book Intituled The Painted Harlot Whipt and Stript c. and other Books of my Writing where I have defended my self from the venome of their poysoned Arrows For first they printed me an Informer as hateful a Name as was then in being And when I obtained the Certificate before recited and that they saw that would not do then they call me in print Beast Dog Woolf Enemy of all Righteousness Child of the Devil Devil Incarnate Fool Novice and what other ill-bred Language their Tongues could invent Then in my Book The Quakers Detected c. I made them also ashamed of such Billingsgate-Language And now the Crime they would fix upon me is An Apostate A self-condemned Apostate An Apparent Apostate which are the worst of Names and had they power to their Wills I might justly fear the Fate which others met with from their Predecessors the envious Papists But as it hath pleased God to enable me to graple with the Lyon * viz. Their Term Informer and the Bear † That it is their railing Language as Devil Beast Dog Woolf and the like so I trust he will enable me to overturn this great Philistine I mean this Bullwark of theirs raised against my Name and Reputation I mean the charge of a self condemned Apostate I have read of M. Luther's Resolution Zeal and Christian Courage against the Pope and his pretended Infalibility and other holy Cheats saith the Historian He charged the Pope not with Life but with Learning not with his Doings but with his Doctrine not picking at the Rine but plucking at the Root not seeking the man but shaking the Kingdom yea and charging him with plain Heresie And still urging and reducing things to the Foundation and Touchstone of the Scriptures * See Fox's Acts and Monuments p. 402 to 417. opened the Eyes of many c. How far my weak endeavours may be said to bear the same Complexion with Respect to this People I will not determine but this I am sensible of there is as much need now to unmask their Leaders and to let their Hearers see their crafty Jugglings whereby they mislead them as there was in the days of Luther and under a sense thereof I am willing to lay out my Talent assuredly believing that though what I now write may not prevail with their present Infatuated Disciples yet both in this Age and Ages to come It will be a means to prevail upon the examining Bereans even such as will search the Scriptures whether what they hold and teach be according to them yea or nay Obj. But 't is objected by G. Whitehead in his Third Charge in his Book stiled The Conten Apostate recharged c. p. 5 6. That Francis Bugg is neither Conscienciously a Religious nor Ingenuous in his writing c. for that he makes no conscience of writing malicious Lyes notorious odious Forgeries and Slanders to villifie and defame others c. And for particular instances to evince his charge he cites sometimes four words in a line then skips to another part of a line taking a bit here and a bit there without the least demonstration or Convincing Argument Thus he jumpeth and leapeth this way and that way floating as a Ship without either Helm or Anchor still shewing himself like the Papists great Champion Mr. Harding against Bishop Jewel as you may read in the Preface to the Defence of the Apology of the Church of England c. where Mr. Harding saith Mr. Jewell is the open Enemy of the Church Mr. Jewell is worse than Ananias that condemned St. Paul Mr. Jewell playeth the part of Antichrist Mr. Jewell is proud Mr. Jewell is Lucifer and serves the Devil Mr. Jewell is a Forger Mr. Jewell is a Lyer an Impudent Lyer Mr. Jewell most falsly corrupteth c. But as I believe Mr. Jewell was clear of the Papists foul Charges So have I been very careful not to mis-represent these People or their Principles much less to forge a Lye a thing I abhor for truth is plain and hath no need of such wicked acts to uphold it and therefore good Christian Reader peruse what is writ on both sides endeavour to know the cause thorowl● and then judge uprightly And if after a thorow Examination thou dost not find that they pretend to have a Spirit beyond the Fore-Fathers and thereby know who are Saints who are Devils and who are Apostates and that none need to give them discerning or Judgment but that by vertue of this extraordinary Spirit they pretend that on all occasions and at all times they are sufficiently furnished c. Then I have wronged them and mis represented them which would indeed be both disingenuous and unconscionable But if they do thus pretend and set these things out as their principles in print and thereby deceive the simple and by vertue thereof and of the like prodigious errors then I think it my duty publickly to Reprove them when all private means will not reclaim them Again If after a thorow Examination thou findest that they deny the second person of the Trinity that they do not own Him that was born of the Virgin Mary that sate upon Jacob's Well that was spit upon smote with the Palms of their Hands thrust a Spear into his Side hanged on the Tree wrapt in the Linnen Cloths Died was Buried and rose again the third day to be the Christ of God Then wilt thou see it high time for a Testimony to be born against such false and erroneous Doctrine and dangerous Principles which are Pernitious to the very Foundation of the Christian Religion Again If upon a thorow Examination thou shalt find that they set it forth in print as their principle that the Name Christ belongs to every Believer as well as to him that was born of the Virgin as aforesaid Then wilt thou find Christ's words fulfilled who said Mat. 24.5 Many shall come in my Name saying I am Christ and shall deceive
F. Bugg's property in their Meeting-House maintained p. 51 Sam. Carter's Sufferings a Sham and Trick p. 55 A Challenge propos'd about Wives against Husband p. 57 The Quak. common Bankers or Purs-mongers p. 61 Thom. Ellwood's Confession that their Ministers take Money p. 64 The Quak. preach for Money Hirelings amongst them p. 62 The Christian Quak. Creed differ from the Foxonians p. 69 Mr. Archer's Query which Silensed G. Whitehead p. 74 As the true Prophets bear witness to Christ Acts 10. 39. to 43. so do the false Prophets with one Mouth bear witness to G. F. p. 78 An ERRATA Redar My distance from the Press and other Accidents have occasioned some Errors in this Treatise both in points Letters in spelling and Words the most material whereof are here noted which thou art desired both to Excuse and Correct The Introduction Page 1. line 18. for lote read late p. 1. l. 25. for thus r. the. p. 2. l. 10. for Rolick r. Pollitick p. 2. l. 14. for surely r. sorely p. 2. l. 23. for Cuter r. Cater p. 3. l. 24. for stroke r. strike p. 4. l. 27. for bids Commmand r. Bids or Command p. 4. l. 35. for this r. his p. 4. l. 36 for as craved r. and craved p. 6. l. 40. for Qua Volumne r. Quae Vnmaskt p. 5. l. 33. for pole r. pale p. 6. l. 44. for Ludam r. Ludum p. 8. l. 24. for first r. false p. 9. l. 13. for be noe r. be more p. 9. l. 14. for the r. by the. p. 10. l. 10. for matter r. Martyr p. 12. l. 6. so a Rinn r. Rind The Book Page 2. line 6. for at every read at any p. 2. l. 23. for race r. foot p. 2. l. 28. for discorded r. discovered p. 3. l. 31. for Rayment r. Garment p. 6. l. 5. for Quak. Chal. p. 6 r. p. 3. p. 8. l. 28. for either r. either by p. 10. l. 32. for omnis r. omnes p. 18. l. 36. for stratched r. stretched p. 22. l. 34. for rine r. Rind p. 23. l. 8. for Imposture r. Imposter p. 25. l. 13. for proclaim r. practice p. 25. l. 18. for Advice of r. A device of p. 26. l. 2. for Pologitico r. Pologetico p. 26. l. 20. for Apostate r. Apostasie p. 40. l. 13. for different r. indifferent p. 42. l. 36. for mundam r. in mundum p. 43. l. 14. for Audland r. outland p. 45. l. 13. for S. B. r. F. B. p. 45. l. 15. for make r. made p. 45. l. 27. for transcribe r. subscribe p. 45. l. 34. for freely r. fairly p. 50. l. 10. for as r. at p. 51. l. 18. for the forth r. near the fourth p. 53. l. 32. for Defame r. Defamer p. 53. l. 32. for Dornham r. Downham p. 66. l. 18. for the primer r. A primer p. 73. l. 9. for And meer r. And that for meer in l. 10. for And the r. And taught Advertisement Several Books wrote by the same Author and Sold by Mr. Gwillim in Bishopsgate-street against the Great James Book-seller in London viz. The I. Entituled De Christiana Libertate c. The II. The Painted Harlot both stript and whipt c. The III. Reason against Railing c The IV. The Quakers detected c. The V. Innocency vindicated c. The VI. Battering Rams against New Rome c. The VII One Blow more at New Rome c. The VIII New Rome unmaskt and her Foundation Shaken c. THE INTRODUCTION Friendly Reader HAving already wrote several Books against the Errors and evil Practices of the People call'd Quakers and finding their Answers so Evasive and Remote from the Point in Question so filled with Railing and Abusing Language Equivocations Pervertions and Forgeries That were it not to make a further Discovery of their dangerous Principles which are very Pernicious to the Christian Religion I should rather chose to be Silent and bear all their Reproaches Slanders and Scandalous Defamations with which their Books are filled Then to trouble my self or my Reader with any Reply to their Contentious Pamphlets For though G.W. charges me to be Contentious yet he hath Wrot Three Books against me to my one against them viz. in nine Months time especially Considering that by several Books already Extant they are very much unmasked And their Vizard in a great measure is taken off particularly by that Excellent Book Intituled The Quakers Unmasked their Double Dealing and Falshartedness Discoverd c. in Quarto Printed Anno 1691 which doth Amply set forth their Temporizing As well as their Writing and Printing against the Presbyterians and Independants for being engaged in the Lote Wars in the most Revengful and Aggravating Terms their Pen could Express Notwithstanding they themselves were equally concern'd with them in the same Cause and Quarell Exhorting and Incouraging Oliver his Army and Officers Not to leave off till they had set up their Standard at the Gates of Rome let your Soldiers go forth said they with a free and willing Heart that you may Rock Nations as a Cradle * Bat. Rams p. 5. and the Qua. Vnmasked p. 5 6 7. Thus next Book I refer to is that Intituled A looking Glass for the Quakers in two Columns which sets forth their two fast Practice in writing against the Papists when under and on their behalf when uppermost viz. in the Reign of the Late King James c. both which Books are Sold by Mr. Gwillim Bookseller in Bishopsgatestreet and stands unshaken by their Answers And remain firm Testimonies against their Temporizing their turning with the Times their Base Insinuations against others more Righteous then themselves c. The next Book I Refer too is that of mine Intituled Battering Rams against New Rome c. And that Intituled The Painted Harlot both Stript and Whipt c. The first reciting Ten Instances of their deep Hypocrisie which they have not been able to confute The Second discovers the Imperiousness of their Ministers and the mischief of their Impositions who in the Year 1675 made an Un-Scriptural Law or Ordinance at their Yearly Meeting that their hearers should constantly meet And Neither forsake nor Remove nor Decline their Meeting like Worldly Fearful and Rollitick Professors And they themselves Refused to stand in a like suffering Capacity with them By telling their Names and Habitation See Paint Harlot p 5. insomuch as that in the loss of 13550 lib. Odd money their Ministers never lost 50 lib. But this Book did surely vex these Mediantes for it touched their tender part as Erasmus once said of the other Monks and to be Revenged on me they Printed and Exposed me to be an Informer though at the same time they knew me to be no such manner of Person But so far from it as that they knew me to be one of the greatest sufferers by Informers in all these Parts yet such was their Implacable malice that they therein followed the Example of the Jesuites whose
many c. I say when thou seest this their erroneous Princiciple and considers that they reckon none Believers but themselves thou wilt begin to see a necessity for a Testimony to be born against them tho' they rail and rave because thereof like their Predecessor Mr. Harding I say when these erroneous Principles and the Consequences of them come to thy view thou mayest then consider whether I have been vainly contentious yea or nay I know if thou wilt observe G. Whitehead and his Brethrens Advice they would like their Elder Sister have thee Read but one side burn and consume such Books as rip up their Errors for Errour loves obscurity they would have you believe as the Church viz. as they believe without any farther Examination and to pin your Faith on their Sleeves But if you obey then know that you are upon the Borders of Rome let their pretences for their direction and yours for your blind Obedience be never so fairly gilded and curiously painted And therefore I beseech thee and that for thy Souls sake search thou the Scriptures as Christ biddeth thee Learn to know the Will of God as St. Paul himself adviseth thee have pleasure in God's holy Word as the Prophet David warneth thee and thou shalt never be deceived But be able to try all things and inclined to hold fast that which is good Which that we may all do is the Desire and Prayer of thy Faithful Monitor MILDEN-HALL January 12. 1691. Fran. Bugg New Rome UNMASK'D AND HER Foundation Shaken c. CHAP. I. Shewing that the forsaking the Quakers is no errour from the Articles of the Christian Faith AS a Preface to what I have set forth from their own Writings to be their Principles I think it needful to incert the Terms upon which I offered to dispute with them in order to prove them erroneous and the rather because I took them out of Edward Burough's Epistle in the Front of his Works which they printed in Folio and in the Works of G. Fox his Great Mist c. which I also left with the Quakers at their publick Meeting in Milden-Hall November 22. 1691. referring them to Book and Page out of which I collected their said Principles giving them a Months time to appear in their defence that so neither for want of time nor yet the knowledge of the Books they might plead a surprize or that they had not fair dealing c. I also then did signifie to them that if they did not appear in their Vindication I should print them All this like a fair Antagonist I have done leaving them without Excuse And so gladly would we be made manifest to all the World (a.) Deceit for if so you would have met and not declined a dispute that we may freely and chearfully 4 10 20 30 more or fewer of us give as many of the wisest and ablest of the Priests and Professors A Meeting for dispute (b.) A very sham your declining the dispute hath discovered you at every place in England (c.) If so why then at Milden-hall at what time and for what continuance as they shall ascribe and consent unto And to dispute and controvert between us and them any such thing and eve●y such particular (d.) Are not the following particulars of Moment for you to make out if you can work a Miracle as shall be objected That by such dispute and opening of such causes objected Full and Real and total satisfaction may be given to the whole Nation and every particular Member therein (e.) If you indeed meant as you make shew of in your boasting why did you not appear and answer my challenge defend your selves your Tenents and Principles otherwise let the Priests and Professors or any of them Object what they can against us in our Principle Faith Practice and our whole Religion (f.) That 's a grand lye spoken in deep Hypocrisie for your guilty Conscisciences will not suffer you to meet And they shall have free liberty to give Proof and Reason for what they affirm and alledge and upon this race will ingage with them and with any of our Enemies (h.) Another lye spoken in Hypocrisie or what Sect and Profession soever to the intent only that Truth may be manifest (g.) What a plain Evasion is this I know not what mental Reservation they had or could have and imbraced and Deceipt and Error discorded and denyed And let such whether them or us that cannot prove our selves to be the true Church of Christ nor of the true worship and true Religion but 't is found to be in the errour and out of the Truth let such deny their Religion and Church and Renounce their Faith and confess to all the World under their hands that they are and have been deceived and freely upon these Issues and Conditions we will joyn Tryal with them let them appoint Time and Place What are you not ashamed Did I not appoint time and place according to your own Conditions and Proposals this is as Hypocritical as G. Whitehead's seinged Prayer in his Book Judgment fixed p. 356 357. and profer Terms at their own pleasure c. These Proposals of theirs having a fair countenance I carried them read them and the Principles as I have observ'd which were as follows And because they shall have no occasion to complain of any wrong I shall in this Column set down their own words verbatim out of their own Books quoting Book and Page In this Column I set forth their Principles unmask'd in their Native Complexion that they as in a glass may behold their own Tenets and others beholding them may be caution'd to be aware of them 1. The Quakers Books 1. Geo. Fox his great Myst p. 89. c. being charged that they pretended to a high pitch of discerning of Knowing who are Saints Devils c. made Answer Here thou hast shewed that the Quakers have a Spirit given to them beyond all the Fore-fathers which we do witness since the days of the Apostles in the Apostacy And they can discern who are Saints who are Devils and who are Apostates without speaking ever a Word 1. The Quakers Principles 1. We have a Spirit given to us beyond all the Fore-fathers since the Apostles days And we know and can discern who are Saints who are Apostates and who are Devils without speaking ever a Word 2. The Quakers Books 2. Judas and the Jews p. 58. We need none to give us discerning or Judgment Christ hath furnish'd us already and doth in all occasions 2. The Quakers Principles 2. We need none to give us discerning or Judgment Christ hath furnish'd us already and doth in all occasions 3. The Quakers Books 3. A Question to the Professors p. 33. viz. Now the Scriptures do expresly distinguish between Christ and the raiment which He wore between Him that came and the Body in which He came between the substance
that the Prosperity of his Affairs and our peaceable Fruition of the Exercise of our Consciences beareth the same Date Dated June 1637. Thus Reader you see that from England to Scotland and from Scotland to England they sounded his Fame in the Highest strain of words praying GOD for his Preservation and praising GOD for defeating his Enemies But alas Has King William been without Enemies Hath their been no Plotting against him I will not say by some of themselves No Contrivance nor no Conspiracies against his Royal Person Yea against the Kingdom that they cannot afford one Prayer for his long Life one Praise to God for his Deliverance Hath not he granted all they can reasonably desire of him I know they will be angry at me for reminding them of these things but why should they be hid that never hid any body Why should not they be discovered and known to be really what they are that for 30 years have made it their business or a great part of it at least to render all sorts of People as odious as they could and what they really were not and their end could be nothing but to exalt their own Horn c. But Providence hath so ordered it that the same Pit they digged for others they are justly fallen into themselves and are left as Mr. Baxter says in his Penitential Confession p. 63. 1691. viz. A disgraced broken Sect as the Quakers be amongst us now c. A broken Sect indeed divided wholly in many places One sort shut up the Meeting-house against the other divided in Cities and Towns yea almost in every Village The Foxonian Government is in many places quite thrown off See J. Hogs book and in others weakening every day Well but to return see another of their Addresses viz. The Humble Address of the People called QVAKERS to K. James II. from their Yearly meeting in London The 6th Day of June 1688. WE the Kings loving and peaceable Subjects from divers parts of his Domimions being met together in this City after our usual manner to * * Rather in●ect inspect the Affairs of our Christian Society THROVGHOVT THE WORLD think it our Duty humbly to represent to him the blessed Effects the Liberty he has gratiously granted his People to worship God according to their Consciences hath had both on our Persons and Estates For as formerly we had ever long and sorrowful Lists brought to us from almost all parts of his Territories of Prisoners and the spoil of Goods by violent and ill men upon account of Conscience We bless God and thank the King the Goals are every where clear except in cases of Tythes and the repair of Parish Churches and some few about Oaths And we do in all Humility lay it before the King to consider the hardships our Friends are yet under for Conscience sake being in the one chiefly exposed to the present anger of the Offended * * Oh! They knew how taking this would be cunning Foxes Clergy who have therefore lately imprisoned some of them till Death And in the other they are rendred very unprofitable to the publick and themselves both in reference to Freedoms in † † They thought this a good motive that so their Voices c. Corporations Probates of Wills and Testaments and Administrations Answers in Chancery and Exchequer Tryals of our just Titles and Debts Proceeding in our Trade at the Custom house serving the Office of Constable c. they are disabled and great Advantages taken against them unless the King's favour do interpose As we humbly hope he may relieve so we confidently assure our selves he will ease us what he can Now since it hath pleased thee O King to renew to all thy Subjects by thy last Declaration thy gratious Assurance to persue the Establishment of this Christian Liberty and Property upon an VNALTERABLE Foundation And in order to it to hold a Parliament in November next at furthest we think our selves deeply ingaged to renew our Assurances of Fidelity and Affection and with Gods help intend to do our parts * * To Vote c. for the effecting so blessed and glorious a work that so it may be out of the power of any one Party to hurt another upon the account of Conscience And as we firmly believe that God will never desert this Just and Righteous cause of Liberty NOR THE KING in maintaining of it so we hope by God's Grace to let the World see we can honestly and heartily appear for LIBERTY of CONSCIENCE * * And yet at the same time great Oppressors of it in your dissenting Friends but Hypocrisy will have its reward and be inviolable true to our own Religion whatever the Folly or Madness on that account may suggest to the contrary Thus Reader you see here is nothing wanting but bended Knees Here is in ALL Humility in ALL Fidelity with ALL Affection yea ALL ALL ALL All Prayers for him for long Life for prosperous Raign Laud and Praise in the highest for his deliverance for the defeating his enemies yea it would be too long to enumerate them besides Book after Book in favour of the Government and one Epistle after another and printed Letters first second and third sounding his fame throughout the World But since King William and Queen Mary came to the Crown as in the Letter to the Quakers was well observed NO Salutation NO Message NO Prayer for nor NO Address to K. W. and Q. M. made Publick NO Book writ in favour of him NO In all Humility NO In all Fidelity NO In all Affection NO Publick Prayers for his long and prosperous Reign NO Laud and Praise that his enemies are defeated here is all NO NO NO NO Tho thanks be to GOD he is now settled peaceably in his three Kingdoms COME what can you say for your selves Are you like those 1 Sam. 10.27 The children of Belial who said How shall this man save us And they despised him See your 12th principle and brought him no presents no Prayers no Addresses I know you have too much espoused the Romish principles some of which are 1. We must believe as the Church i. e. your Church believes 2. That the your Church cannot err 3. That she hath power to bind and loose 4. And that it is abominable Pride not to submit to her i. e. your Judgment You may remember you have had many Favors by Their Majesties particularly Liberty of Conscience established by Law which is one and not the least and yet having had three Annual Meetings in London not one Address c. Nay worse than so And as an aggravation of your Ingratitude you made an ORDER for the calling in the Widow Whitrow's Books she being formerly of your Society which was writ but in favour of this Government what Scripture had you for that You say that Christ and his Apostles did not require you to pray for Kings by Name I say so too
in their quarterly book as in Painted Harlot p. 60 62 63. Yet not being under Hand and Seal when I put forth my Book De Chr. Lib. c. They wrote me word that if I did not call in and condemn that book that they would come out with their Narrative c. By which I saw the popish Maxim fulfilled viz. No Faith or Covenant to be kept with Hereticks And when they saw me thus resolved not to trust their Promise nor to take their Words they then chose rather to give me a Deed to secure me under the Feoffees Hands and Seals and Jos Bangs and Philip Cranniss are witnesses to it which being large I shall only recite a few words out of it shewing that I have power to hold a Meeting to appoint a Meeting to speak in a Meeting to write in the Meeting in a word whatever in former days I did my Power is the same So that I fear not G. W's other CONSEQVENCES I am provided against their Arbitrary Wresting my Property out of my Hands as they have done to too many viz. Memorandum That on the 15th day of August 1678. We who are Feoffees for the Meeting-House in Hallowel-Row in Milden-Hall in the County of Suffolk do by this our present Writing acknowledge That Fra. Bugg of the same Town and County gave towards the purchasing the Burial Place and building the said Meeting-House with the out House appertaining to the same the Sum of twenty-Pounds and five Shillings And thereby hath as great an Interest in the Meeting House as any of US or any OTHER PERSON WHATSOEVER * What think you George had not I as good a right as you that never gave penny to it viz if you will keep Covenant And we do by these presents as well in Consideration of the said twenty pounds towards the Purchase aforesaid as also for divers other causes and considerations according to the Power resting and residing in us do Covenant grant and agree to and with the said Fra. Bugg That he the said Francis Bugg shall from time to time and at all times hereafter have possess and enjoy the same Ingress Egress and Regress Vse and Possession which he the said Francis Bugg formerly enjoyed † Mark that without the Let Hinderance or Molestation of the People called Quakers § Be sure you keep Covenant I shall tell you of it else Now George I think I am out of the reach of your other CONSEQVENCES yea out of your power of thrusting me forth of your Meetings as you have done others and then call them distracted and the like I will assure you they had not need be distracted that deal with you but have their wits about them or else they shall soon feel the effect of your other CONSEQVENCES but I now am past the fear of your Councel-Table your Friend Penn's Interest or Geo. Whitehead's other Consequences Obj. Well but some may say what will they go to Law or what other Consequences can G. W. mean We thought them to be great Sufferers and not so subject to go to Law Answ That they will go to Law and upon small Trifles too I can shew it their Judgment For Tho. Crisp in his books had but mentioned 2 of the Letters of the Names of some of their Ministers that lived in some immoralities and Richard Richardson their then Clerk to their second days meeting who wrote for the Church viz. their Society and on their behalf sent him a Letter to consult his interest c. The Abstract of which follows c. Tho. Crisp London the 31 5 Mon. 1682. Thy Book I have not read others have them only thy Letter remains by me wherein I find thee charging Friends with Whoredom Theft Cheating Breaking and other Immoralities thou mayest consult thy own safety this is not matter of Religious Controversy but civil Moralities the Church will require no such satisfaction from thee But they cannot restrain men in their civil concerns from seeking Justice in a legal way † † G. W. If that be your opinion that 't is lawful to seek Justice in a legal way what makes you so angry with me for getting a Justice Warrant for you to the intent that I might get you to own your scandalous book Judgment fixed c. Did not I seek Justice against a publick Defame in a legal way which I have in part obtained viz. Your owning your Book c. which is in order to farther satisfaction You seemed very kind to the Justice in omitting his Name but you have pointed at him saying there ☞ he dwells viz. at DORNHAM IN SUFFOLK which is all one to telling his Name which when he saw it he saw through your Sophistry and gave a right Character of your temper in that Affair c. c. And if so that the very mentioning 2 Letters of a Name put them in such a Fret and Passion I hope they will bear with others if they seek a Remedy against them for their slanderous Tongues and Pens Neither did I think it necessary to trust to their promise whom I have found so false in so many cases for my security if I had I should soon have felt G W's other CONSEQVENCES And as to their being great Sufferers I know that many of their Hearers are but it was ever the way of their Ministers to save themselves as my book the Painted Harlot c. sets forth But yet I remember one thing which will discover how they love to magnify their Sufferings and account such great Sufferings which indeed are no Sufferings at all as the next Chapter will sufficiently make appear so that it is no Apostacy from the Articles of the Christian Faith to separate from the Quakers and their Errors CHAP. IX Sheweth that the forsaking the Quakers is no Apostacy from the Articles of the Christian Faith SAmuel Cater one of their insignificant Preachers had a Meeting at Phakenham in Norfolk which as it stands in their Quarterly book will tell after ages that Sam. Cater was fined 20 l. and distrained * See their Quarterly Book at Hadenham in the Isle of Ely c. and that for Preaching too And this will look great and exalt his Name and crown his Memory tho indeed he did not suffer one Shilling however there it stands as an honourable and valiant Suffering unless it be lately cancelled and blotted out as it ought to be The Passage which I having a providential opportunity took out of their Quarterly book stands thus Samuel Cater for being at a Meeting at Phakenham in Norfolk on the 4th day of the 5th Month called July Anno 1670. preaching and publishing the Gospel of Peace One Ann Wats a Woman Informer told the Officers who came with a Warrant and had him before one Christopher Colthorp a Justice who fined him Twenty Pounds which Warrant and Conviction was sent to the Justices in the Isle of Ely namely John Laney Henry