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A48829 A seasonable discourse shewing the necessity of maintaining the established religion, in opposition to popery Lloyd, William, 1627-1717.; Fell, John, 1625-1686. 1673 (1673) Wing L2693; ESTC R20499 20,845 26

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World to believe that every thing of this will be done again when the old Gentleman at Rome is pleased to be angry next has a mind to gratifie a neighbour Prince or wants a portion for a Son or a favour for a Mistris And as it is the Papists of England have but this one excuse for that mortal sin of obedience to their Heretic Prince that they are not strong enough to carry a rebellion And truly 't were great pity these men should be entrusted with more power who give us so many warnings before hand how they are bound to use it But to all this the Roman Catholics have one short reply That they are the most Loyal Subjects of his Majesty and have signally approved their duty by their service and fidelity in the last War To this I say in short that as bad as Popery is I do not think it can eradicate in all its Votaries their natural conscience no Plague was ever so fatal as to leave no Person uninfected that scapt its fury The case is fully stated by King James of famous memory as on one part many honest men seduced with some Errors of Popery may yet remain good and faithful Subjects so on the other part none of those that truly know and believe the whole grounds and School conclusions of their Doctrines can ever prove either good Christians or good Subjects To speak the plain truth and what the insolent boasts of Papists makes necessary to be told them whatever was done then was no trial at all of Loyalty The late Rebels found it necessary for the countenancing their cause to make a loud pretence against Popery and to have the benefit of spoiling them So that the Roman Catholics did not so much give assistance to the King as receive Protection from him When they shall have adher'd to their Prince in spight of the commands of their holy Father the Pope and defended their Sovereign and his Rights when it was not their interest to do it they will have somewhat worth the boasting As the case now stands they had better hold their peace and remember that the Sons of another Church served their King as faithfully as they though they talk less of it But since they will needs have the World know what good Subjects they have been let them take this short account from the Answer to the Apology for the Papists Printed An. 1667. In Ireland there were whole Armies of Irish and English that fought against his Majesty solely upon the account of your Religion In England it is true some came in voluntarily to assist him but many more of you were hunted into his Garrisons by them that knew you would bring him little help and much hatred And of those that fought for him as long as his Fortune stood when that once declined a great part even of them fell from him And from that time forward you that were always all deem'd Cavaliers where were you In all those weak efforts of gasping Loyalty what did you You complied and flattered and gave suggared words to the Rebels then as you do to the Royallists now You addressed your Petitions to the Supreme Authority of this Nation the Parliament of the Common-wealth of England You affirmed that you had generally taken and punctually kept the Engagement You promised that if you might but enjoy your Religion you would be the most quiet and useful Subjects of England You prov'd it in these words The Papists of England would be bound by their own interest the strongest Obligation amongst wise men to live peaceably and thankfully in the private exercise of their Conscience and becoming gainers by such compassions they could not so reasonably be distrusted as the Prelatic Party which were loosers If this be not enough to evidence the singular loyalty of Papists in the late War they may hear a great deal more of their vertue celebrated from their Petitions and public Writings in my Lord Orrerys answer to Peter Welsh his Letter And because in those Writings they are so ready to throw the first stone against the late Regicides they would do well to clear themselves from the guilt of that Sacred bloud which is charged home upon them by the Answerer of Philanax Anglicus who has not yet been controuled for that accusation 5. To this barbarous insolence of Excommunicating and Deposing Kings may succeed the usual consequent of that but greater prodigy of Tyranny the putting whole Nations under Interdict and depriving them of all the Offices and comforts of Religion and that generally without any other provocation than that the Prince has insisted on his just rights or the people performed their necessary duty History is full of instances hereof Within the compass of one Age I mean the eleventh Century almost all the Nations of Europe fell under this Discipline France England Scotland Spain and Germany and some of them several times over and so it has gone down in following Ages The nature of the punishment we may learn from Matthew Paris who describing the Interdict in the days of King John which lasted amongst us for six years three months and fourteen days There ceased throughout England all Ecclesiastical Rites Absolution and the Eucharist to persons in their last Agonies the baptizing of Infants only excepted also the bodies of the dead were drag'd out of Cities and Villages and buried like the Carkasses of Dogs in the high-ways and ditches without any prayers or the Sacerdotal Ministry One would imagine that he who pretends to hold his Empire from the Charter of pasce oves the feeding of Christs Sheep would find himself concerned not to destroy and starve them or withhold from them their spiritual food for almost seven years together an unusual prescript for abstinence in order unto health But we may not wonder at all this for pasce oves with a Roman Comment means all Coercion and Dominion and they who take away the Scriptures and half the Communion from the Layty are not to be controul'd if they also withhold the other offices of piety 6. A farther consideration may be the Laws of the Land which in case of Popery must be content to truckle under the Canon Law and occasional Bulls of his Holiness or Legantine Commissions The proceedings of the Courts in Westminster veiling to Prohibitions and Appeals to Rome against which a Premunire will be a weak fence in bar to the plenitude of the Apostolic Power and to murmur of dispute any thing will be especially to new Converts interpreted Heresie a word of so sharp an importance as not to need a Comment There is a Tradition that heretofore the Gentlemen of the long Robe were in that mean estate as to ply at Westminster Hall Gate as now Watermen do at the Stairs for a Fare let the Practitioners in that noble Profession consider whether some such thing would not in earnest be the consequent of Popery
Second against whom his Holiness Innocent the IV then Pope to use the words of the Acts of the Council Pronounced and thundred out the Sentence of Excommunication not without the horrour and amazement of all hearers and by-standers Only the Annats or First Fruits of Bishopricks as they were computed in Parliament Anno 1532. in a few years came to an hundred sixty thousand pound sterling it would be endless to audit the whole Account As England was by the Popes stiled an inexhaustible pit so was there no bounds set to the industry of them who attempted to drain it After a sad complaint of the Rapine Avarice and tyranny of the Pope and his Officers among us Matthew Paris breaks out into these words We might there see heart-breaking grief the cheeks of pious persons drown'd in tears the doleful moan that they made and the sighs which they multiplied saying with bleeding groans It were better for us to die than behold the calamity of our Country and pious People of it Woe to England who heretofore was Princess of Provinces and Ruler of Nations the mirrour of Excellence and pattern of Piety is now become Tributary vile persons have trampled upon her and she is a prey to the ignoble But our manifold sins have procured these judgments from God who in his anger for the iniquity of his People has made a Hypocrite and Tyrant to rule over them If Almighty God should for the like Provocations put us again under the same Egyptian Task-masters we need not doubt of the self-same usage But now for all this expence 't is pleasant to examine what is to come back to us in exchange even Parchments full of Benedictions and Indulgences store of leaden Seals Beads and Tickets Medals Agnus-Dei's Rosaries hallowed Grains and Wax-candles such Traffic that an Indian would scarce barter for such pitiful Gauds that would hardly bribe a child of a year old and yet this is the goodly price they offer for all the wealth of a whole Nation 10. After this Tyranny over our Estates in the particulars rehearsed there is a very remarkable one behind which will well deserve to be considered It is Auricular Confession where not to mention its ill aspect upon Government as being made an Engine of State and Picklock of the Cabinets of Princes sealing up all things from the notice of the Magistrate but making liberal discoveries against him hereby not only the Estate but Soul and Conscience of every private man are subjected to the Avarice and Rapine and withal the Humour and Caprice the Insolence and Pride nay Lust and Villany of a debauched Confessor Every mortal sin upon pain of Damnation must be confessed and when the Penitent after great anxieties has freed himself from this disquiet he must submit to the Penance however rigorous or chargeable or foolish which the Priest enjoyns he and his Family are entirely in the power of this Master of their secrets And if this Awe and Empire however grievous were the whole inconvenience 'twere something tolerable it being to be hoped that so severe a remedy would affright from guilt but the very contrary happens vices of the foulest kinds are hereby procured to the Priest takes often benefit of the sin which he absolves from and having the advantage of these two Points that the person whose Confession he has taken has lost modesty and that he can absolve from the crime it will be easie to perswade the repetition of that sin which his breath can easily blow away and render none I shall not here mention on the other part the perfunctory Penances which seem only imposed to invite to sin again and those authorized by a most authentic pattern that of the Popes themselves for what Markets may we not expect from a poor Priest when his Holiness in his Tax of the Apostolick Chancery has valued the most horrid crimes at so easie rates as a few grosses or a Julio and eighteen pence or half a Crown compounds for the foulest most abominable guilt Nay when a visit to a privileg'd Shrine or Altar and the bare recital of a short Prayer purchases pardon for 100 500 546 6646 days Nay for 7500 10000 1000000 years according to the grants of several Popes to be seen for our great comfort and edification in the Horae B. Virginis So that the Story of that plump Confessor who for six Acts of Adultery is said to have enjoyn'd the repetition of six Poenitential Psalms and when 't was told him that there were seven of them advised the Votary to commit Adultery once more and repeat the whole number may seem a very severe act of Discipline and besides a full attonement for past sins supererogation for future ones So that Vice being brought to this easie rate besides all other misadventures unless we will stand for the honour of being Cuckolds and have our Posterity share the Title which is Proverbial in Popish Countrys to be fils de Prestre it will concern us to look about us while 't is time and prevent these vile dishonours which are preparing for us If it shall be said that 't is not imaginable men should pervert so sacred an action as the receiving of Confessions to those purposes of villany that are suggested I answer first That we may without breach of charity suppose that thing possibly to be done which is notoriously known to have been done as also that the horrour of the crime is competently allayed by their Doctrine who think only marriage and not Fornication inconsistent with the dignity of a Clergy-man And therefore the Nephews of great Clergy-men and Popes have in all Ages been own'd and preferred and moreover Fornication has been allowed to Priests and Friers in compensation for their restraint from marriage three or four Whores as part of their spiritual preferment I say all this being put together there will be little hopes to preserve honour in Families where so many Circumstances concur together to betray it 11. After all this there still remains a farther reason why we should resist the growth of Popery even the most pressing that can be urged Self-preservation to avoid Imprisonment and Inquisition Fire and Fagot Massacres Racks and Gibbets the known Methods by which the Romanists support their Cause and propagate their Faith Should that Sect prevail the Nonconformist shall no longer complain of a Bartholomew-day the Parisian Vespers which bore that date will be resumed again and silence all complaints of them or us and as his Holiness thought fit to celebrate that barbarous villany calling together as Thuanus tells us his Cardinals solemnly to give thanks to Almighty God for so great a blessing conferred upon the Roman See and the Christian World nay a Jubilee was to be proclaimed through the Christian World whereof the cause was expressed to give thanks to God for destroying in France the enemies of the Truth and of the Church
There may be found on this side the Sea men who will imitate the Princes of the holy League who upon such encouragements from the See of Rome and for the greater glory of God will be ready to consecrate their hands in a Massacre here with us It is vulgarly known what was done to the poor Albigenses and Waldenses how many hundred thousand of lives the planting of the Roman Gospel in the Indies cost What cruelties were practised in the Low-Countries by the Duke D'Alva what bloud in this Island in the days of Queen Mary what designed to be shed in the Powder Treason and that by the privity and direction of the Pope himself as Delrio informs us in spight of all the palliations that are now suggested who withal adds that his Holiness Clement 8. by his Bull a little before that time gave order that no Priest should discover anything that came to his knowledge in confession to the benefit of the Secular Government It seeming safer to these good men to break all the Obligations of Duty and Allegiance though bound by Oaths than violate the Seal of Confession or put a stop to that meritorious work at one moment to destroy their Soveraign with all his Royal Family his whole Nobility and Senate and subvert the Government of their Native Country But we need not seek for instances without our own memories the carriage of the Irish Rebellion where the Papists in a few months cut the throats of about two hundred thousand innocent Protestants of all Sexes and Ages cannot be yet forgotten Which Act was so meritorious as to deserve from his Holiness a most plenary indulgence for all that were concerned in it even absolution from Excommunication Suspension and all other Ecclesiastical Sentences and Censures by whomsoever or what cause soever pronounced or inflicted upon them as also from all sins trespasses transgressions crimes and delinquences how hainous and atrocious soever they be c. Nor let any man be so fond to hope for better terms or Liberty of Conscience if Popery should now prevail Let us look into the world and we shall see on all hands that nothing is any where suffered to grow either under or near that Sect. Where Protestantism has been so strongly fix'd as not to be batter'd down at once it has by degrees been perpetually undermin'd witness the Proceedings against them in Poland and Hungary and several parts of Germany the late Persecutions in the Vallies of Piedmont and the methods used in France to demolish their Temples and disable from Employments and almost exclude them from common Trades I need not enquire what is now done in Vtrecht and other acquisitions of the French upon the Hollander this we are sure of Whatever Articles are or can be made of favour and compliance 't is somewhat more than a probable Doctrine that Faith is not to be kept with Heretics The Jesuited Romanist is at large by Equivocations to say any thing and by directing of Intention to do any thing they can with a very good conscience dissemble their own and pretend to the Protestant Profession come to the devotions of Heathen Idolaters and that from express Licence from his Holiness Pope Clem. VIII upon account of which We may says Tho. a Jesu be present without any scruple at the Rites and divine Offices of Infidels Heretics and Schismatics Nay Peter Maffeius makes it his boast that Ignatius Loyola imitated the Devil in all his tricks cheats and cunning to convert souls and how his followers have transcrib'd that Pattern the world does know Yet farther they some of them at least can set up a new Gospel where there is not one word of the Cross of Christ can worship Heathen Idols with that pitiful reserve of having in their Sleeve a Crucifix to which they privately direct their adoration all which as they are notorious for being complained of to the Pope so are they uncontroul'd for ought appears and permitted by him Indeed what conversation can there be with these men who are under no obligations of Society no Character of notice or distinction who at the same time are Priests and Hectors Casuists and Artificers Presbyterians Anabaptists Quakers Theists Atheists and amidst all this very good Catholics Let any honest sober man judge what kind of Religion this is in it self and how fit to be encourag'd and submitted to 12. To close up all that has been said from uncontroulable Testimonies and Proofs we have seen the influence which Popery has either heretofore or may hereafter have amongst us in all the great concerns of our Religion our Prince our Laws our Property our Country our Families and Lives and found it evidently destructive unto all the inference from whence can be no other but that if we have any love of our Religion any abhorrence of the grossest Superstition Error or Idolatry any regard for the safety of his Majesty any care of our Laws or our Estates any concernment for the strength the wealth or numbers of our Nation any desire to hold the Freedom of our Conscience the Virtue and the Honour of our Families and lastly any care of Self-preservation to escape Massacres and the utmost rage of Persecution it will behoove us to beware of the prevailing of that Sect in whose Successes we have reason to expect to forfeit all these Interests perish our selves and bequeath Idolatry and Beggary and Servitude to our Posterity FINIS a Art 6. b 2 Tim. 3.15 c Artic. 13. 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