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A97377	A most necessary & frutefull dialogue, betwene [the] seditious libertin or rebel Anabaptist, & the true obedient christia[n] wherin, as in a mirrour or glasse ye shal se [the] excellencte and worthynesse of a christia[n] magistrate: & again what obedience is due vnto publique rulers of all th[os]e [that] professe Christ yea, though [the] rulers, in externe & outward thinges, to their vtter dampnatyon, do otherwyse then well: translated out of Latyn into Englishe, by Iho[n] Veron Senonoys.; Von dem unverschampten Fräfel der Widertöuffer. English. Selections	Bullinger, Heinrich, 1504-1575.; Véron, John, d. 1563.	1551 (1551)	STC 4068; ESTC S113331	40,542	90

the pure sede of the gospell The anabaptistes wyll alwayes come too those places where the gospel is preached Mat. xiii cha The anabaptistes Libertins do go aboute to perswade men that the magystrates maye not kyll wyth the swearde What they be the styrre vp commotyon where the Gospell is not preched The oratyon of the papystes too the simple ignoraunte to stirre them vp to tumulte commotion hath bene dyligentlye sowen For there the deuyll whiles men are a slepe is moste busye to sowe in his cockle darnel Which wold god it were diligently weded out by the maiestrates and rulers that these most pestyferous Anabaptistes Libertins mighte ones both feele and know that they do not beare the sword delyuered vnto them of of god in vayne In other places where they do yet for the most parte syt in darkenesse of ignoraunce and shadow of death the popes darlynges are the styrers vp of al myschief For they by there hypocrysye blandiloquence and flattery are so farre sunke in to mens stommackes that they can easely perswade them that both the kyng and al his honorable counsell are vngodly yea starke heretikes Haue they not wyl the shauelinges say to the poore symple folkes of their countrey taken away broken our godly ymages Haue they not abolyshed our holydayes put doune our ceremonyes and disanulled the holy blessed Masse Loke howe vnreuerentlye they do vse the blessed sacrament of the Aulter Doo they not also goo aboute to plucke doune all our holy Aulters Who hauing a christian harte could abide such impiety vngodlynesse Come on therfore neighboures better it were for vs to dye a thousande deathes then to se thys blasphemy Let vs fight for the holy church rytes thereof We may be sure that we shall lyghtly ouercome these ranke herytykes And if we chaunce to haue the ouerthrowe our selues whiche thinge is not lykely syth that we fyghte in gods quarell dye in the fyeld who wolde doubt but that we shall go straighte way vp to heauen Oh false doctrine For Christ whose blessed body and bloud made by the holye handes of the prieste these false heritikes do treade vnder foot hath said Math. x. cha Yet this texte as all other is falsely aleged of them that whosoeuer loseth his life for hys sake and the churche shal fynde it agayne in the resurrection of the deade With suche mistes and iuggelynges of wordes these cleane fyngered gētlemen do vtterlye subuerte the mindes of the simple and ignoraunt people whiche elles if they had trew pastours and good minysters Yf the people had true pastoures they wlold embrace gladlye gods worde woulde wyth all mekenes and due obedyence receyue the heauenlye doctryne mynystred so fatherlye vntoo them by the Kynge and hys honourable counsayle They woulde notte mutter nor open their lippes against the kynges moste godlye procedinges butte would gladly wyth the other subiects of this realme embrace the wholsome doctrine of their saluation and acknowlege that they haue bene hetherto ledde in erroure and blyndnes Who they be that prycke the people forwardes to tumulte and insrrection by these false Antychristes and Pseudoprophetes whome they nowe accepte and embrace as goddes Too be shorte these twoo sortes of men I mean the Libertins and papistes are they that do pricke the people forwardes whyche elles of theymselues are ready inoughe to suche thynges and especially now By greadye mammons that they are so on euerye side pilled and polled too tumultes and insurrections too the vtter confusyon of them selues and vndoing of this honourable countrey and Realme Therfore An exhortatiō to the maiestrates against the libertins Papistes O ye magistrates and rulers whom god hath appointed ouer his chosen and elected people with the swearde of equitie to defende the widdowes and fatherles to maintain the good and righteous and to punisshe the euil and wicked doers it is your parte and duetye to seke oute suche runne agates and withoute any fauoure or mercye to punysshe them that all other may take example by them Put away in this case all folish pitie for as the cōmen prouerbe is folish pytye leseth the countrey besides that better it is the ii or .iii. be thus extremely punished thē thousands All foolyshe pitye is to be ut awaye should through their wycked counsails entisements most miserably and to the great losse of the countrey perisshe Picke out these rauenynge wolues and for goddes sake fauour the people as muche as may be haue that noble capteyn Ioab alwaies before your eyen whych as sone as that trayterous rebell Absalon was by the righteous iudgmente of god ii Regū xviii Chapter most shamefully slayne dyd by by blowe to the retrayte and commaunded to spare the people Do the same and ye shal hyghly please god Call ye the pore vnto you and heare their complayntes paciently o ye gods for so the scripture dothe call you because that ye are in the stede and roume of god here ye the complaynte of the poore I saie and redresse those thynges that are amysse Know of them the causes why they are now contrarye to their old wont and custom An apte similitude so bent to insurrectyon and tumult Yf a phisycion wold go about to heale any disease or syckenesse and not serche out the causes therof wolde not all men and the by good ryght call him an vnkunning phisition The whole body of the common weale is sore sicke it canne in no wise be healed except the cause of this disease and syckenesse be bothe searched out dilygentlye and taken awaye Suffer no longer the louynge subiectes of thys moste victoryous countrey whych by our moste souereygne Lorde the kynge are commytted vnto your charge custodye and protectyon Verelye it is you whyche be heare in the earthe lyeutenauntes and vicayrs of god The magistrates are Gods vycares in the earthe that shoulde reuenge the wronges and iniuries of the people too be eaten and swalowed vp by these gredye Cormorauntes which neuer beynge contente till they haue the deuill brought to them in a sacke ioyne house to house lande to lande but woo be to them saith the prophet although they should dwel alone vpon the earthe Esai v. Chap One of them hath a thousande mens liuinges in hys hands and yet can he scantelye suffer his poore neighbour to dwell in a poore cotage besides hym All that he hath is to little as longe as he seeth any poore man to haue any thinge by him What should I saye A whole shiere is not enough to satisfye his couetouse and vnsasiable minde And why I praye is all thys forsoth that he his wyfe and his children maye go gaye and fare dayntely Yf he can haue that it maketh no matter how many thousand do go a begginge or storne for hunger by him Ah worldlinges worldelinges the hande of god is stretched furth to plague

¶ A most necessary frutefull Dialogue betwene the seditious Libertin or rebel Anabaptist the true obedient christiā wherin as in a mirrour or glasse ye shal se the excellence and worthynesse of a christiā magistrate again what obedience is due vnto publique rulers of al thē that professe Christ yea though the rulers in externe outward thinges to their vtter dampnatyon do otherwyse then well translated out of Latyn into Englisshe by Ihō Veron Senonoys Romaines .xiii. chapter Whosoeuer resisteth the power resysteth the ordinaunce of God but they that resyst shal receiue to them selues dampnation ❧ The contentes of thys boke i That a christian contrarye to the pernitious opynion of thanabaptistes or seditious Libertins may lawfully execute the office of a Magistrate ii That the offyce of a Magistrate is not onely profitable but also most necesary to a Christian commune weale iii That we are all bounde to obeye magistrates and rulers in externe outward thinges but if they commaund any thing against god and his worde better it is to obey god then men Yet not to resiste violently iiii Whether it be lawfull to resist the magistrate where we do wryte againste them that do rebell against magistrates and rulers ¶ To the right worshipfull Syr Ihon Gates Knight Ihon Veron wissheth peace grace health both of soule and body with increase of diuine knowledge and vnderstandynge from god the father throughe oure Lorde and Sauyour Iesus Christe CAllyng to remembraūce right worshipfull Syr the great inconuenyences harmes that lately dyd chaunce to this most illustre florishing Realme by the disobedient rebellyon of certayne vngodly and wycked persons which casting god and his word behind theyr backes did seke nought els but an vtter confusyon of all thynges I can not but lament and mourn that yet so great blindnes ignoraunce doth When prophecie that is to say true ministring of goddes word shal ceasse thē shal the people be scattered saith the scripture for lacke of trew preachers and ministers of goddes word without the which beyng purely syncerely preached no trewe obedience nor duety can be learned whatsoeuer the enemies of the truth do babell and prate reygne emong the commons and inhabiters of this countrey that they beinge wrapped in all kyndes of errour do not knowe nor yet vnderstande that to ryse for any maner of cause against the Magistrates Thre thinges the rebelles do incurre by their rebellion rulers high powers is moste dampnable too theyr soules most paryllouse to theyr naturall countreye and to theyr bodyes for whose sake they lyke brute beastes styrre vp all this hurly burly most hurtful and daungerous Whiche three thynges I wyll here proue by the word of god and examples of the scriptures puttyng before theyr eyen howe sore god doth abhorre and detest al rebellious insurrections and tumultes to the intent that they being taughte and instructed oute of goddes worde waye leaue of and ceasse from theyr rasshe and vngodly enterpryses Rom. xiii cha Rebelles doo purchase vnto theym selues euerlastinge dampnatyon Fyrst and formest let them loke vpon the .xiii. Chapter to the Romaines Where Paule speaketh after this maner Whosoeuer resisteth the power resisteth the ordynaūce of god but they that resist shal receiue to them selues euerlasting dampnation Here in these few wordes of the blessed apostle and chosen vessell of god we do learne that we ought in no wyse to resist the high power And why Because he is the ordynaunce of god Who can I pray you O brayneles Libertins resyst the ordynaunce of god and escape vnpunisshed Noo man truelye For the holy ghoste sayth that they that resyste shall receyue to them selues dampnatyō Thys were ynough to proue that to rise agaynst the hygh powers is most dampnable to the soules excepte some were emonge theym moste craftye and subtile whyche by and by wyll make an obiectyon and saye Obiection Is the power of tyrannouse and vngodlye Prynces of God Noo man saye they wyll ryse agaynst a godlye Prynce whych without doubt is of god But we do ryse agaynst most wicked vngodly rulers whiche dailye do so sore oppresse vs that we can suffer noo longer excepte we and oure chyldrē wyll go hereafter a beggyng Aunswere or solutyon To whom we doo aunsweare wyth Saynct Paule There is noo power but of God All the powers that bee are ordeyned of God Syth then that there is no power but of God it foloweth by good consequence that the tyrannycal power is of god and that whosoeuer doth resist it The tirannycall power is of god as pestylence hayle vnseasonable wethers other lyke plagues doth resyst the ordinaunce of god therby purchasing vnto him selfe euerlasting dampnatyon But I will tell the howe the tyrannicall power is of god euen as pestilence haile vnseasonable weathers and other lyke plagues which are by the righteous iudgement of god sente vpon vs for our sinnes Whiche thinge we maye well se of Pharao in Hieremy Esai iij. chap and of Sennacherib kyng of the Assirians in Esaie the prophete yea the lord saith him selfe I will geue chyldisshe men to be your Princes and gouernours scornefull or womanly or effeminate persons shall beare rule ouer you Mark ye this oh rebelles acknowledge the wicked rulers are a rod sent of god to punish youre synnes The lord doth make the wicked to reygne for the sinnes of the people Ye shal also be pilled and polled and one shall euer be doing violence and wronge to an other The boye shall presume against the elder and the vyle person agaynst the honorable And whye Because that both your wordes your counsailes are againste the lorde to prouoke the presence of his maiestye vntoo anger By these wordes of the holy prophete it is easy to vnderstande that oure synnes are the chief causes why the Lorde god aboue doth sende vngodly and wycked rulers But thys we will not se nor heare our eyen are so fixed vpon the faultes of the high powers and gouernours that we do vtterlye forget our owne we can espie a mote in theyr eye Mat. vij cha It is the propertye of folyshnesse too forget hys owne and to se other mennes synnes but the beam that is in oure owne that wyll we not se We blame them for couetousnes wee our selues are an hundreth tymes more couetouse in our heartes then they are we blame them for theyr pryde and no man is so proud so high mynded so stubburne hawte of corage as we are oure selues we blame them for theyr gay apparell and costly fare and we our selues if we were as able as they woulde go a thousand tymes more gay fare a thousand tymes more costly then they doo I do appele to your own consciences whether it be not so as I say Truly though ye dissemble neuer so muche Psalme vij and clooke that poison that lieth hidden in your hertes neuer so craftely

yet almighty God which is the searcher of the heartes and of the loynes knoweth what beaste ye nourysshe and beare aboute with you in your heartes Which thyng shall be manifest and open How we mai deliuer our selues from misery and calamitye whē the lord shal reuyse the secretes of euery mans hearte Wyll ye then be rydde from the myserye that ye are wrapped in Will ye be deliuered from extorcion tyrannie and oppressyō Remoue and put awaye the causes Let vs put awaye these enorme synnes that we are drowned in I meane vnfaythfulnes murmurynge agaynste GOD ingratytude and vnthankefulnesse Let vs banysshe from emonge vs vncleanelynes fornycatyon adulterye dronkennes backbytynge periurye vntrue dealyng vnlawfull othes and blasphemous swearynges Thys done let vs boldelye flye vntoo the Lorde and wyth earneste prayers procedynge from a trewe and an vnfayned faythe call vpon hym for ayde and succoure and wythout doubte he wyll heare vs. For the truthe it selfe dyd saye Psalme l. Call vpon me in the day of thy trouble and I wyll bothe heare and delyuer the that thou mayest gloryfye my name Marke thys well he dothe notte saye In thy trouble that is to say when thou art afflycted and oppressed runne into the fyelde and there mutter make vnlawfull assembles agaynste the magistrates but he sayth Call vpon mee addyng a most comfortable promyse that he wyll bothe heare and delyuer thee Seeke then the meanes that the Lorde hath appoynted the and folowe not thy carnall and flesshelye affectyons for they are blynde Carnal●● 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 ly affec●●●●● are blynde and wyll brynge the intoo all kyndes of calamytye and myserye whereas yf thou doest obeye goddes worde and suffer pacyentelye the wronge if any were done vnto that by the hyghe powers and rulers thou mayest be sure that he wyll deliuer the at length thoughe it be not so soone as thou woldest haue it For it is wrytten Psalme ix The poor shall not be forgotten alwayes the pacyente abydynge of the meke shall not perysshe for euer Oh that thys doctryne were prynted in all mennes heartes thē shoulde we haue lesse tumulte and sedytyon Tumult sedition dothe come of plain ignoraunce of gods worde whych truely doth ryse of nothing elles but of playne ignoraunce of gods worde and heauenlye truthe Were not the chyldren of Israel the chosen and elected people of God a longe season in Egipt beyng by the space of foure score yeres and more so sore afflycted and oppressed by that cruell tyraunte Pharao Exo. i. ii cha that besydes all other myseryes wherewyth they were there ouerwhelmed they were fayne to se all theyr men chyldren as soone as they were borne too be kylled afore theym or elles before theyr ●yen to be drowned in the riuer of Nilus And yet we doo not reade nor heare though they were six hundreth thousand men besides women and chyldren that there was euer anye mutteryng any insurrectiō or vnlawfull assembles emong them Exo. xiiij cha but dyd abyde styll pacientlye the helpynge hande of the Lorde whiche at lengthe when they did call earnestly vp on hym dyd deliuer them so mightely that without any sweard drawing they were reuenged of their enemyes whyche oppressed them Let vs doo the same let vs abyde paciently the helpyng hande of the Lord let vs put away vice and embrace vertue Praiers are the armure weapons of the christians in affliction Psalme ix callyng night and day vpon oure heauenly father For praiers are the armour and weapons of the christians whē they are in affliction and trouble wee maye be sure that he wyll not forget vs the holy Prophete Dauid saying God forgetteth not the complaynt of the poore But yf we go about by vnlawfull meanes and wayes to delyuer our selues besydes that we shall runne as the late experience taughte vs intoo farther thraldome and bondage we shall without all doubt purchase vnto oure selues euerlastyng dampnatyon For why We doo resyst the ordynaunce of god Which to do is most dampnable as the holy Apostle doth testifye Rebelles goo aboute too bring their naturall coūtrey to vtter desolatyon Mat. xij chap Nowe let vs se intoo what parell and ieopardye these brayneles and vngodly folkes do most vnnaturally bryng theyr own natural countrey Do not they as much as in them lyeth by theyr sedityous tumulte go about to bryng it to vtter desolatyon Christ our sauyoure the euerlastyng wisedome of the father and eternall truth sayth Euery kyngdome deuided agaynst it selfe shall be brought to naughte And euerye Citie deuided agaynst it selfe shall not stande Wherby it may be gathered that they that seke or make anye diuision within a Realme or countrey do intend nothing els though they falsly pretende an other thyng but to brynge the same Realme or countrey to naught It is vnpossyble that the wordes of our sauyour whych is the truthe it selfe shuld be false Whych to be most true and infallible What Realmes cōmun weales didde fall to decaye by dyuysyon daily experience doth suffycyently teache vs. For what thing I pray did bryng the florysshynge commune weale of the Assirians to naught Diuision What thing did make the Medes Persians and almoste all Asia soo weake that they could not withstande a handfull that came out of Macedonia Diuision What thinge did subuert and turne vpside downe that goodlye and well ordered common weale of the Lacedemonians whych in vertue and manlynes dyd farre excede all other men Dyuision What thyng did bring the Athenienses which were rulers of al Grecia and lordes of the seas to so greate thraldome seruitude and bondage that they could neuer get them selues into libertie agayne Diuision What hath broughte the Romaynes whyche by theyr prowesse had conquered al the wholl world into soo base a state that the lesse kyngdome of Europa is able too compare with them whyche afore made all the wholl world to tremble and quake at the dynt of their sword Diuisiō To be short what thyng did in tymes passe encourage the Danes and Normans too inuade thys countrey almost to the vtter vndoynge and confusyon of thys noble and florysshing Realme Diuision That I should in the meane season let passe and speake nothynge of the common weale of the Iewes and Israelites whiche after that they were ones deuyded agaynste them selues were neuer able to resyst theyr enemyes In so muche that at lengthe they were brought into perpetuall captiuitye and thraldome Read the holy Bible reade Iosephus Herodotus Iustinus Titus Liuius Sabellicus and for the historyes of Englande Polydorus Virgilius Ye may se nowe that by stirryng vp of diuision ye did brynge your owne naturall countrey into as great a paryll as myghte be God was the defender of this realme in the tyme of insurrction For onlesse God had beene a stronge Bulwarke vntoo thys moste victorious Realme of Englande and a moste fauourable father protectoure and defendoure vntoo oure Virgyn kynge for whose