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A28816 The propositions of their excellencies the ambassadovrs of the high and mighty states generall of the united provinces in the Netherlands delivered by them, by word of mouth, in both Houses of the Parliament of England, the 22/12 of July, 1644 / translation in English, delivered to both Houses was subscribed W. Borell, Iohn Reede de Renswoude, Alb. Ioachimi. United Provinces of the Netherlands. Staten Generaal.; Joachimi, Albert, 1560-1654.; Reede van Renswoude, Johan, baron van, 1593-1682.; Boreel, Willem, baron van Vreendijke, 1591-1668. 1644 (1644) Wing B3752; ESTC R287 3,663 15

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THE PROPOSITIONS Of their Excellencies THE AMBASSADOVRS OF The High and Mighty States Generall of the united Provinces in the NETHERLANDS Delivered by them by word of mouth in both Houses of the Parliament of England the 22 12. of July 1644 The Translation in English delivered to both Houses was subscribed W. Borell Iohn Reede de Renswoude Alb. Ioachimi LONDON Printed by T. Badger 1644. RIGHT HONOVRABLE LORDS AND COMMONS FRom the very beginning of the restauration of the Liberty of the Republique of the Vnited Provinces of the Netherlands The High and Mighty Lords our Lords the States Generall their chiefest wishes and desires have ever beene to see that the Kings of great Brittaine and these Kingdomes might be perpetually maintained and preserved in a good concord Peace and Vnion by which nothing could befall them but all safety and advantage and that for three principall reasons First that these Kingdomes being the greatest the strongest Body which having received and maintained the Profession of the true Christian Protestant Religion and concerving it selfe so well it might also contribute much yea by Fame and reputation it selfe to the conservation of States Confederates and Friends and of all the other Protestant Churches established and spread through whole Europe Secondly that these Kingdomes by their situation commodities traffique and Navigation and their Republique being so nearely combined by their common Interest of State and Religion our Lords might rest assured that the Interest of the King and these Kingdomes being so mightily advanced and conserved by the same meanes those of the Netherlands could not be but well conserved And thirdly that this intestiue Peace Vnion and Concord which Prosperity and Weale ordinarily accompanieth continuing here that not onely the Kings and Kingdomes should be able to maintaine and preserve themselves but that the States Confederate and Friends or the good Cause of the Protestant Religion in other parts unjustly suffering as formerly it hath beene and yet this day is too much perceived they might ever find their refuge azile their Succours their ayd against all those who on the contrary part of other States and Churches should undertake to undermine the true Foundation of the happinesse of these flourishing Kingdomes For your situation being well considered you are in your selves as a World a part separated from many inconveniences of the other You have your Commodities at home not onely which are necessary and for your pleasure and delight but also in such plenty that you are able to communicate them to other Nations your Neighbours The Sea doth serve you for a ditch and Bulwarke and your Power by Sea is able to maintaine you in your filicity and to exempt and free you from all forraigne injuries So that the good of your owne conservation and the cause of your evill and ruine could not be suscitated nor found elsewhere but at home and within your selves And certainely the Kings and Queenes formerly have done notable asistances for the maintenance and conservation of the true Religion and of many States which had need thereof amongst which Our LORDS doe professe themselves as much obliged and bound as any other And the King and these Kingdomes shall yet in time be able to doe the like assistance as well for the present now there is so great a necessity as for the future provided you conserve your selves in that Concord and Vnion which heretofore hath made and shall ever make you mighty and redoubted From hence it is that the common Enemies of the Peace of Christendome and their Agents who long since have framed and forged the Designe of an universall Monarchy of whole Europe yea of the whole World seeing and perceiving with an envious and malicious eye your former happinesse your flourishing State and your power and that there was nothing so contrary and dreadfull to their vast conceptions as your oppositions To hurt and weaken yea to ruine you if they had beene able they have heretofore used all violence and the strength of great Fleets and Armies but in vaine and without successe They have at last not beene able to act a better play then that which is most familiar to them and which often hath helpt them to the ruine of many great States which have not bin so circumspect and prudent as you are Right Honourable It is so that quitting violence in a profound peace which they have with you and during the time of the same they have sowne amongst you the seedes and weedes of Discord and dissention as well in politique as Church businesses and shall ever foment them whence they could assure themselves of a certaine profit what end soever the said dissentions might take And by these means and their accustomed craft they have proposed to obtain by intestine troubles you should weaken your selves and making you lesse mighty and lesse dreadfull and no wayes considerable you might serve at last which God avert to the inglutting of their insatiable ambition to the destruction of the true Religion and of all that which may be deare and recommendable to you As VVe see already brought to passe in Ireland where the cruelties murthers horrible and unheard of slaughters have been perpetrated with effusion of so much innocent bloud to the totall destruction of the true Protestant religion there and to the great danger of the State it selfe Our Lords seeing these mis-understandings troubles and miseries here already growne to so great an extreamity and being so highly interessed in your well being have esteemed fit and timely to send Vs their Ambassadors to this Kingdome to offer to the King and to his Parliament Our Service and mediation To help if acceptale to remove and take away the jealousies which are and might be and to compose the dissentions by the milde wayes for an amiable Conference And our said Lords declare that they have not been moved hereunto by any presumption or to intrude themselves in the busines of a great King and of these mighty Kingdomes But onely to acquit themselves of the Office and Duty of a good friend and also to acknowledge in this occasion the grat obligation which the King and these Kingdomes have upon our Republique Our Lords further doe perswade themselves that no other State in the world but theirs shall be found more fit and acceptable in then opinion to interpose it selfe in the meditation of an accommodation and re-union between his Majesty and his Parliament and to whose interposition more credit might bee given without all susption For the honour greatnesse and prosperity of the King and these Kingdomes is by reflection the same for our Republique and on the contrary your evill is to Vs a very great affliction and a most sensible evill From thence may be taken this firm assurance that the ayme of our mediation shall not be to recommend an accommodation and reconciliation feigned and painted without not prejudiciall and not assured within But to procure a true
re-union sincere and perfect founded upon the Basis of the true Religion and Iustice which shall re-establish respectively the good correspondence confidence love and the respects between the King and his Parliament and between all the good subjects of these great Kingdomes The King hath so much approved of the reasons and proffers of our said Lords that his Majesty hath accepted on his part Our Interposition and hath consented to a Conference between Commissioners to be sent from both parties if you find it good and that you shall chuse the place the time and the number of the persons who shall be imployed in this action Right Honourable Now Wee come unto you by command of Our Superiours to make the same proffer of mediation and to understand whether also it may bee agreeable and acceptable unto you VVe have alwayes observed that your good inclinations have been carryed to peace if you receive satisfaction to your just and reasonable demands Your wisedomes also may well judge that the wayes of Armes are no alwayes the surest their successes being very uncertaine and which changeth face in a moment The good Cause which is proposed doth not alwayes promise an assured and certain successe for we are all men and God sometimes permits the good Cause to suffer for our sins All warre is an affliction and punishment of God in which we are not to take del●ght when we can be freed of it upon honest and sure termes and conditions that the wrath of God be not longer provoked against us It is to be considered also if no reasonable accommodation be found that the decision of your differences by Armes is not to be expected so soon but rather on the contrary that it shall bee the cause of perpetuating the warres in these Kingdomes because the King shall ever live in his Royall Posterity and the Parliament never dyes to suscitate always the former evill successes by new warres which at length shall cause the totall ruine and destruction of State and Religion onely to the great advantage of the common enemy of our Faith Right Honourable If it please you to make use of our intercession unto which the King consented at our first Proposition and offer VVe promise you to proceed and labour in it with all sincerity and fidelity as Ambassadors sent by your best friends and allies making profession of one and the same Religion And we shall spare no endeavour travaile nor paine by the good will which his Majesty hath declared to us and by your good intention to make the affections of our Lords succeed to such perfection that the King and his Parliament and all good and loyall Subjects of the King and lovers of their Country shall finde their desired contentment and tranquility with all assurance Right Honourable We must yet adde these few words that your troubles and warres trouble and indanger us also for many Merchants and Masters of Ships dayly present themselves to Our Lords the States Genenerall and to us here with their complaints that your men and ships of war trouble their course of trading and traffique and take their ships and goods without any just cause and without reason and any right at all as may be seen by a Memorandum hereunto anneed which you are desired to take notice of and to give order for restitution and reparation of the dammages sustained for the present and to take such course that in the future the like excesses may be prevented And if any doubts be found in the said Memorandum that it may please you to appoynt us some Commissioners to settle the poynts of which wee are complaining as shall be found to agree with reason FINIS