Selected quad for the lemma: cause_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
cause_n	good_a	justification_n	work_n	9,756	5	6.9844	4	true

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A62157	Some queries proposed, to the monethly meeting of the Quakers at Aberdeen; the sixth day of June, 1700. By Robert Sandilands With their answers thereto; together with some remarks thereupon. Published by authority. To which is prefixed a letter from George Keith, sent to the Quakers in Aberdeen, containing a very serious and Christian expostulation with his old friends, &c.	Sandilands, Robert.; Keith, George, 1639?-1716. aut	1700 (1700)	Wing S663; ESTC R220626	23,403	36

those_o expression_n god_n man_n be_v bear_v of_o marie_n we_o do_v not_o find_v they_o in_o the_o scripture_n nor_o do_v we_o read_v that_o marie_n be_v the_o mother_n of_o god_n but_o in_o the_o pope_n canon_n article_n etc._n etc._n and_o what_o nonsense_n say_v he_o page_v 47._o ibidem_fw-la and_o unscripture_n language_n be_v this_o to_o tell_v of_o god_n be_v co-created_n with_o the_o father_n or_o that_o god_n have_v glory_n with_o god_n do_v not_o this_o imply_v two_o god_n and_o that_o god_n have_v a_o father_n let_v the_o reader_n judge_n and_o page_n 24._o to_o tell_v of_o the_o word_n god_n cocreator_n with_o the_o father_n be_v all_o one_o as_o to_o tell_v of_o god_n be_v cocreator_n with_o god_n if_o the_o father_n be_v god_n and_o this_o be_v to_o make_v two_o god_n two_o creator_n etc._n etc._n and_o thus_o g._n w._n oppose_v the_o godhead_n of_o christ_n as_o he_o do_v his_o manhood_n in_o other_o quotation_n he_o also_o deny_v the_o glorious_a hipostatical_a union_n that_o it_o consist_v of_o a_o human_a and_o divine_a nature_n or_o that_o they_o be_v hipostatical_o one_o see_v his_o christian_a quaker_n page_n 141._o and_o their_o book_n call_v a_o testimony_n for_o the_o true_a christ_n pag._n 8._o whereof_o g._n w._n be_v suppose_v to_o be_v the_o author_n they_o deny_v the_o humanity_n of_o christ_n as_o humanity_n signify_v the_o earthly_a nature_n of_o man_n body_n as_o come_v from_o humus_fw-la the_o ground_n but_o as_o humanity_n signify_v meekness_n gentleness_n mercifulness_n as_o opposite_a to_o cruelty_n in_o this_o last_o sense_n they_o own_o christ_n humanity_n 70._o see_v the_o quotation_n at_o large_a cite_v in_o g._n ks._n four_o narrative_a p._n 70._o but_o deny_v it_o in_o the_o former_a which_o be_v the_o true_a sense_n of_o scripture_n and_o of_o all_o true_a christian_n and_o as_o they_o deny_v the_o humanity_n of_o christ_n so_o they_o deny_v divine_a worship_n and_o honour_n to_o be_v give_v to_o he_o and_o consequent_o deny_v his_o divinity_n as_o william_n show_v a_o note_a writer_n among_o they_o express_o say_v in_o his_o book_n call_v a_o small_a treatise_n concern_v evil_a thought_n p._n 37._o not_o to_o jesus_n the_o son_n of_o abraham_n david_n and_o mary_n saint_n or_o angel_n but_o to_o god_n the_o father_z all_o worship_n honour_n and_o glory_n be_v to_o be_v give_v q._n 9_o do_v christ_n natural_a body_n which_o be_v crucify_a and_o be_v bury_v rise_v again_o and_o do_v that_o body_n after_o his_o resurrection_n ascend_v into_o heaven_n and_o be_v that_o body_n now_o in_o heaven_n a._n we_o believe_v that_o christ_n body_n which_o be_v crucify_a and_o be_v bury_v do_v rise_v again_o and_o do_v after_o his_o resurrection_n be_v wonderful_o glorify_v ascend_v to_o heaven_n and_o be_v now_o at_o the_o right_a hand_n of_o the_o majesty_n on_o high_a heb._n 1._o 3._o r._n this_o answer_n if_o they_o have_v no_o secret_n reserve_v meaning_n in_o it_o in_o all_o appearance_n seem_v orthodox_n and_o agreeable_a to_o the_o sense_n of_o all_o sound_a protestant_n but_o the_o reader_n may_v compare_v it_o with_o what_o g._n w._n say_v in_o his_o nature_n of_o christianity_n pag._n 41._o what_o scripture_n proof_n say_v he_o after_o his_o socratical_a way_n of_o writing_n be_v there_o that_o christ_n subsi_v outward_o bodily_a without_o we_o at_o god_n right_a hand_n and_o where_o be_v god_n right_a hand_n be_v it_o visible_a or_o invisible_a within_o we_o or_o without_o we_o only_o and_o be_v christ_n a_o saviour_n as_o a_o outward_a bodily_a existence_n or_o person_n without_o we_o distinct_a from_o god_n and_o on_o that_o consideration_n to_o be_v worship_v as_o god_n yea_o or_o nay_o but_o john_n whitehead_n a_o very_a eminent_a and_o ancient_a preacher_n among_o they_o be_v more_o explicit_a in_o his_o postscript_n to_o a_o book_n call_v the_o quaker_n refuge_n p._n 90._o i_o have_v several_a time_n say_v he_o deny_v that_o christ_n have_v now_o a_o body_n of_o flesh_n and_o bone_n circumscript_n or_o limit_v in_o that_o heaven_n which_o be_v above_o and_o out_o of_o every_o man_n on_o earth_n and_o g._n w._n in_o his_o light_n and_o life_n pag._n 38._o be_v very_o plain_a where_o he_o express_o say_v the_o quaker_n see_v no_o need_n of_o direct_v man_n to_o the_o type_n for_o the_o antitype_n viz._n neither_o to_o the_o outward_a temple_n nor_o yet_o to_o jerusalem_n either_o to_o jesus_n christ_n or_o his_o blood_n know_v that_o neither_o the_o righteousness_n of_o faith_n do_v so_o direct_a rom._n 10._o q._n 10_o be_v that_o heaven_n into_o which_o christ_n have_v ascend_v in_o the_o true_a glorify_a nature_n of_o man_n consist_v of_o soul_n and_o body_n without_o we_o or_o within_o we_o only_o and_o do_v you_o own_o the_o man_n christ_n jesus_n to_o be_v without_o you_o as_o well_o as_o his_o spirit_n and_o light_n within_o you_o a_o we_o firm_o believe_v that_o that_o heaven_n unto_o which_o christ_n have_v ascend_v in_o the_o 〈◊〉_d glorify_v nature_n of_o man_n 〈…〉_o of_o soul_n and_o body_n be_v without_o i●_n and_o u●_n do_v own_o the_o man_n christ_n jesus_n to_o be_v without_o we_o as_o well_o as_o his_o spirit_n and_o light_n within_o we_o rom_n 8_o 34._o heb._n 8._o 1._o r._n this_o answer_n may_v be_v compare_v with_o what_o g._n f._n say_v in_o his_o great_a mystery_n p._n 214._o there_o be_v none_o have_v a_o glory_n and_o a_o heaven_n but_o within_o they_o now_o if_o there_o be_v no_o glory_n nor_o heaven_n without_o we_o then_o how_o can_v christ_n be_v ascend_v into_o a_o heaven_n without_o we_o and_o w._n p._n redicules_a the_o locality_n of_o both_o heaven_n and_o hell_n and_o say_v in_o his_o rejoinder_n p._n 179._o to_o deny_v it_o be_v not_o very_o offensive_a and_o that_o it_o look_v too_o carnal_a indeed_o mahomitan_n viz._n to_o assert_v it_o w_n smith_n a_o ancient_n and_o eminent_a writter_n among_o they_o in_o his_o catechism_n p._n 57_o have_v this_o question_n and_o be_v that_o which_o be_v within_o you_o the_o only_a foundation_n upon_o which_o you_o stand_v and_o the_o principle_n of_o your_o religion_n answer_v that_o of_o god_n within_o we_o be_v so_o for_o we_o know_v it_o be_v christ_n and_o be_v christ_n it_o must_v needs_o be_v only_a and_o principal_a for_o that_o which_o be_v only_a admit_v not_o of_o another_o and_o that_o which_o be_v principal_a be_v great_a in_o be_v and_o thus_o we_o know_v christ_n in_o we_o to_o be_v unto_o we_o the_o only_a and_o the_o principal_a q_n but_o do_v you_o hold_v that_o this_o foundation_n and_o principle_n within_o you_o be_v sufficient_a to_o eternal_a life_n a._n yes_o we_o do_v so_o and_o g._n f._n in_o his_o great_a mystery_n p._n 248_o say_v to_o c._n wade_n the_o devil_n be_v in_o thou_o and_o thou_o say_v thou_o be_v save_v by_o christ_n without_o thou_o and_o g_z w_o say_v in_o truth_n defend_v the_o quaker_n p._n 65_o that_o faith_n in_o christ_n without_o man_n be_o contrary_n to_o the_o apollo_n doctrine_n be_v this_o to_o own_o the_o man_n christ_n jesus_n to_o be_v without_o we_o as_o a._n i_o &c_n &c_n assert_n they_o do_v in_o their_o answer_n q._n 11._o be_v we_o justify_v and_o cleanse_v from_o sin_n by_o the_o blood_n of_o christ_n that_o be_v outward_o shed_v and_o be_v we_o sanctify_v by_o that_o blood_n meritorious_o as_o by_o his_o spirit_n grace_n and_o light_n in_o we_o efficient_o a._n we_o answer_v affirmative_o r._n with_o this_o affirmative_a answer_n may_v be_v compare_v r._n bs_n 7_o proposition_n in_o his_o a_o pology_n p_o of_o his_o work_n 264_o as_o many_o say_v he_o as_o resit_fw-la not_o this_o light_n viz._n the_o light_n within_o but_o reserve_v the_o same_o it_o become_v in_o they_o a_o holy_a pure_a and_o spiritua_n 〈◊〉_d bring_v so_o the_o holiness_n righteousness_n 〈◊〉_d and_o all_o those_o 〈…〉_o fruit_n which_o be_v acceptable_a to_o god_n by_o which_o holy_a birth_n viz_o jesus_n christ_n form_v within_o we_o and_o work_v his_o work_n in_o we_o as_o we_o be_v sanctify_v so_o 〈…〉_o in_o the_o ●ight_n of_o god_n according_a to_o 1_o cor._n 6._o 11._o here_o justification_n and_o sanctification_n be_v entire_o 〈◊〉_d to_o christ_n the_o light_n within_o and_o there_o be_v not_o one_o word_n of_o the_o outward_a christ_n or_o his_o outward_a blood_n outward_o shed_v let_v the_o reader_n also_o consider_v what_o he_o deliver_v as_o his_o 3_o position_n in_o p._n 370_o viz_o that_o since_o good_a work_n as_o natural_o flow_v from_o this_o birth_n as_o heat_n from_o fire_n therefore_o be_v they_o of_o absolute_a necessity_n to_o justification_n as_o causa_fw-la sine_fw-la qua_fw-la non_fw-la i._n e._n though_o not_o as_o the_o cause_n for_o which_o yet_o as_o that_o in_o which_o we_o be_v and_o

12._o r._n this_o answer_v the_o reader_n may_v be_v please_v to_o compare_v with_o the_o quotation_n in_o the_o remark_n on_o the_o 10_o and_o 12._o answer_n q._n 14_o do_v not_o the_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n by_o his_o most_o perfect_a obedience_n and_o sacrifice_n of_o himself_o which_o he_o offer_v up_o unto_o god_n full_o satisfy_v the_o justice_n of_o his_o father_z and_o so_o pay_v the_o ransom_n for_o the_o sin_n of_o mankind_n q._n 15._o do_v christ_n suffer_v the_o punishment_n due_a for_o the_o sin_n of_o fall_v man_n and_o do_v he_o make_v full_a payment_n in_o man_n stead_n for_o the_o debt_n contract_v by_o sin_n a._n to_o both_o which_o last_o query_n we_o answer_v that_o we_o believe_v that_o the_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n do_v free_o offer_v himself_o a_o acceptable_a sacrifice_n for_o the_o sin_n of_o mankind_n and_o that_o the_o father_z of_o his_o great_a mercy_n accept_v of_o that_o sacrifice_n as_o a_o sufficient_a expiation_n for_o the_o sin_n of_o the_o whole_a world_n as_o in_o these_o scripture_n 1_o pet._n 1._o 19_o 1_o pet._n 2._o 24._o 1_o pet._n 3._o 18._o john_n 10._o 14_o 15_o 17_o 18._o verse_n r._n this_o answer_n to_o the_o 14_o and_o 15._o query_n may_v be_v compare_v with_o the_o 11_o question_n in_o g._n ws._n appendix_n to_o the_o 2d_o part_n of_o the_o christian_a quaker_n p._n 242._o where_o it_o be_v ask_v whether_o divine_a justice_n do_v propper_o and_o strict_o require_v a_o full_a payment_n and_o punishment_n upon_o christ_n in_o man_n stead_n for_o all_o the_o debt_n contract_v and_o injury_n do_v by_o fall_v man_n to_o which_o it_o be_v answer_v no_o christ_n suffering_n be_v not_o of_o that_o nature_n or_o intent_n etc._n etc._n and_o thereafter_o he_o say_v p._n 244_o and_o see_v p_o 240_o all_o these_o scripture_n relate_v to_o christ_n suffering_n as_o isa_n 53_o etc._n etc._n do_v all_o intimate_fw-la god_n great_a kindness_n and_o condescension_n in_o christ_n jesus_n and_o his_o humiliation_n and_o deep_a suffering_n under_o the_o weight_n and_o burden_n of_o sin_n and_o as_o by_o the_o grace_n of_o god_n he_o taste_v death_n for_o every_o man_n all_o which_o fall_v great_o short_a of_o prove_v our_o adversary_n charge_v against_o he_o viz_o that_o god_n pour_v down_o his_o wrath_n and_o revenge_n on_o his_o innocent_a son_n for_o satisfaction_n to_o divine_a justice_n in_o man_n stead_n that_o have_v do_v the_o injury_n i_o say_v all_o the_o scripture_n allege_v by_o they_o can_v never_o prove_v this_o etc._n etc._n here_o we_o have_v a_o positive_a answer_n to_o the_o query_n and_o no_o shuffle_a or_o shift_v the_o matter_n as_o a._n j._n and_o his_o friend_n do_v in_o their_o answer_n and_o w._n p._n in_o his_o rejoinder_n to_o io._n faldo_n p._n 284_o and_o 255_o justify_v w._n smith_n say_v christ_n in_o we_o offer_v himself_o a_o live_a sacrifice_n to_o god_n for_o we_o by_o which_o the_o wrath_n of_o god_n be_v appease_v to_o we_o and_o g._n w._n in_o his_o light_n and_o life_n p._n 44._o do_v also_o justify_v the_o same_o but_o what_o he_o say_v be_v too_o large_a to_o be_v here_o insert_v and_o therefore_o i_o refer_v the_o reader_n to_o the_o book_n itself_o and_o to_o g._n ks._n 3_o nar._n p._n 24._o w._n p._n in_o his_o reason_n against_o rail_a p._n 9_o say_v that_o if_o it_o be_v our_o duty_n to_o forgive_v without_o a_o satisfaction_n receive_v and_o that_o god_n be_v to_o forgive_v we_o as_o we_o forgive_v other_o then_o be_v a_o satisfaction_n total_o exclude_v see_v also_o his_o sandy_a foundation_n wherein_o he_o express_o argue_v against_o christ_n satisfaction_n and_o insist_o large_o on_o it_o i_o have_v not_o the_o book_n at_o present_a by_o i_o so_o can_v quote_v exact_o any_o passage_n out_o of_o it_o but_o above_o all_o that_o which_o i_o think_v be_v most_o horrible_a and_o blasphemous_a and_o undervalue_v the_o suffering_n of_o our_o bless_a lord_n e._n b._n of_o great_a esteem_n among_o they_o say_v in_o his_o work_n p._n 273_o print_v 1672_o and_o which_o his_o friend_n reprint_v and_o approve_v of_o the_o suffering_n say_v he_o of_o the_o people_n of_o god_n call_v quaker_n in_o this_o age_n be_v great_a suffering_n and_o more_o unjust_a then_o in_o the_o day_n of_o christ_n or_o of_o the_o apostle_n what_o be_v do_v to_o christ_n or_o the_o apostle_n be_v chief_o do_v by_o a_o law_n and_o in_o great_a part_n by_o the_o due_a execution_n of_o a_o law_n etc._n etc._n q_o 16._o do_v the_o best_a work_n that_o any_o be_v enable_v to_o perform_v even_o by_o the_o assistance_n of_o the_o spirit_n merit_v pardon_n of_o sin_n and_o eternal_a life_n a_o we_o answer_v negative_o we_o have_v no_o merit_n all_o be_v of_o free_a grace_n and_o mercy_n through_o christ_n tit._n 3._o 5._o r._n this_o answer_n seem_v to_o bespeak_v a_o humble_a and_o self_n deny_v frame_n of_o spirit_n and_o i_o be_o very_a glade_n to_o find_v such_o come_v from_o a._n i._n etc._n etc._n but_o i_o be_o sure_a their_o friend_n book_n be_v fill_v with_o a_o great_a deal_n of_o self_n exaltation_n and_o abase_v of_o all_o other_o and_o too_o much_o spiritual_a pride_n and_o boast_n of_o their_o faithfulness_n as_o that_o by_o and_o for_o which_o they_o merit_v or_o hope_v to_o attain_v eternal_a life_n may_v be_v too_o much_o observe_v in_o most_o of_o their_o preach_n and_o as_o a_o evidence_n for_o what_o i_o say_v let_v the_o reader_n consider_v what_o samuel_n fisher_n say_v in_o his_o rusticus_n etc._n etc._n p_o 90._o that_o because_o evil_a work_n say_v he_o be_v the_o meritorious_a cause_n of_o our_o condemnation_n therefore_o good_a work_n be_v the_o meritorious_a cause_n of_o our_o justification_n see_v also_o p._n 84._o 88_o ibid._n and_o see_v also_o g._n w_v voice_n of_o wisdom_n p._n 36._o q_o 17._o shall_v the_o man_n christ_n jesus_n come_v again_o and_o appear_v without_o we_o to_o judge_v the_o quick_a and_o the_o dead_a a._n we_o answer_v affirmative_o yea_o he_o shall_v according_a to_o these_o scripture_n mat._n 25_o 31._o act_n 17_o 31._o this_o answer_n may_v be_v compare_v with_o what_o g._n w._n say_v in_o his_o light_n and_o life_n p_o 41._o but_o three_o come_n say_v he_o not_o only_o that_o in_o the_o flesh_n at_o jerusalem_n and_o that_o in_o the_o spirit_n but_o also_o another_o come_n in_o the_o flesh_n yet_o to_o be_v expect_v we_o do_v not_o read_v of_o but_o a_o second_o come_v without_o sin_n unto_o salvation_n which_o in_o the_o apostle_n day_n be_v look_v for_o and_o in_o his_o christ_n ascend_v &c_n &c_n p._n 21._o 22._o etc._n etc._n not_o only_o deny_v any_o personal_a come_n of_o christ_n yet_o to_o be_v at_o the_o end_n of_o the_o world_n but_o deny_v he_o to_o have_v a_o personal_a existence_n in_o heaven_n without_o the_o saint_n and_o charge_v it_o to_o be_v anthropomorphism_n and_o muggletonism_n see_v also_o w._n baily_n coll_n p._n 29._o q._n 18._o be_v there_o any_o resurrection_n of_o the_o dead_a that_o all_o or_o any_o of_o the_o decease_a saint_n wait_v for_o and_o do_v the_o same_o natural_a body_n that_o die_v rise_v again_o or_o be_v the_o resurrection_n nothing_o else_o but_o what_o you_o have_v already_o or_o what_o you_o shall_v have_v immediate_o after_o death_n a._n we_o believe_v that_o there_o shall_v be_v a_o resurrection_n both_o of_o the_o just_a and_o of_o the_o unjust_a according_a to_o the_o scripture_n act_v 24_o 15_o 1_o cor._n 15_o 5._o also_o the_o same_o chap._n from_o 35_o to_o 38_o verse_n and_o we_o believe_v that_o the_o resurrection_n be_v not_o already_o past_a nor_o be_v that_o which_o we_o shall_v immediate_o enter_v into_o after_o death_n r._n by_o this_o answer_n to_o this_o 18_o q._n a._n j._n and_o his_o friend_n shift_v the_o question_n entire_o for_o i_o know_v that_o verbal_o they_o seem_v to_o own_o a_o resurrection_n but_o that_o our_o natural_a elementary_a body_n shall_v rise_v again_o they_o utter_o deny_v and_o oppose_v so_o g._n w._n argue_v most_o violent_o against_o it_o in_o the_o second_o part_n of_o his_o christian_a quaker_n p._n 352._o 353._o etc._n etc._n and_o so_o do_v w._n p._n in_o his_o reason_n against_o rail_v p._n 134_o 137._o if_o the_o thing_n say_v he_o can_v be_v the_o same_o and_o notwithstanding_o change_v for_o shame_n let_v we_o never_o make_v so_o much_o stir_n against_o the_o doctrine_n of_o transubstantiation_n for_o the_o absurdity_n of_o it_o be_v rather_o out_o down_o then_o equal_v by_o this_o carnal_a resurrection_n and_o r._n hubberthorn_n say_v coll._n p._n 121_o these_o be_v they_o that_o plead_v for_o a_o life_n in_o sin_n while_o they_o be_v here_o and_o that_o say_v that_o the_o saint_n glorify_v in_o heaven_n do_v yet_o hope_v for_o

without_o which_o we_o can_v be_v justify_v but_o g._n w._n be_v a_o little_a more_o distinct_a in_o his_o second_o part_n of_o the_o christian_a quaker_n p._n 126._o where_o he_o say_v but_o what_o proof_n have_v he_o from_o scripture_n that_o the_o shed_v of_o christ_n blood_n be_v the_o meritorious_a cause_n of_o justification_n so_o through_o that_o whole_a 3d_o chap._n he_o labour_v to_o prove_v that_o proper_o speak_v it_o be_v by_o the_o spirit_n and_o light_n or_o christ_n within_o we_o be_v justify_v and_o in_o his_o antidote_n p._n 39_o he_o affirm_v that_o the_o blood_n of_o he_o viz._n christ_n outward_a blood_n as_o well_o as_o the_o water_n that_o come_v out_o of_o his_o side_n have_v a_o allegorical_a and_o mysterious_a signification_n as_o well_o as_o a_o outward_a and_o literal_a even_o of_o the_o spiritual_a blood_n and_o water_n of_o life_n which_o be_v compare_v with_o what_o he_o say_v in_o his_o light_n and_o life_n p._n 59_o in_o which_o he_o plain_o deny_v that_o the_o material_a blood_n of_o the_o sacrifice_n be_v a_o type_n of_o the_o material_a blood_n of_o christ_n for_o that_o be_v to_o say_v say_v he_o that_o material_a blood_n be_v a_o type_n of_o that_o which_o be_v material_a this_o be_v to_o give_v the_o substance_n no_o pre-eminence_n above_o the_o type_n so_o that_o though_o as_o g._n k._n observe_v in_o his_o 3_o narrative_a p._n 73_o g._n w._n etc._n etc._n grant_v that_o a_o man_n call_v christ_n be_v outward_o bear_v dye_v have_v his_o blood_n shed_v &c_n &c_n yet_o all_o this_o be_v a_o allegory_n and_o have_v a_o allegorical_a signification_n of_o christ_n true_o and_o real_o without_o a_o allegory_n bear_v within_o they_o crucify_v and_o dead_a within_o they_o his_o blood_n shed_v within_o they_o bury_v rise_v ascend_v within_o they_o atonement_n reconciliation_n etc._n etc._n within_o they_o and_o see_v they_o deny_v the_o merit_n and_o efficacy_n of_o christ_n death_n and_o blood_n without_o and_o of_o what_o he_o do_v and_o suffer_v without_o we_o they_o be_v just_o charge_v to_o allegorise_v it_o away_o that_o be_v to_o make_v no_o other_o account_n of_o it_o then_o of_o the_o history_n of_o hagar_n and_o sarah_n and_o other_o type_n symbol_n and_o allegory_n of_o the_o old_a testament_n w._n p._n be_v yet_o more_o express_a speak_v of_o our_o justification_n by_o the_o righteousness_n which_o christ_n have_v fulfil_v in_o his_o own_o person_n for_o we_o he_o say_v in_o his_o serious_a appology_n p._n 148_o and_o indeed_o this_o we_o deny_v and_o bold_o affirm_v it_o in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o lord_n to_o be_v the_o doctrine_n of_o devil_n and_o a_o arm_n of_o the_o sea_n of_o corruption_n which_o do_v now_o deluge_n the_o whole_a world_n i_o can_v quote_v many_o more_o passage_n but_o i_o refer_v to_o these_o follow_v g._n ws._n light_n and_o life_n p._n 38._o 40._o etc._n etc._n w._n batlies_n coll._n p._n 22_o 23._o 577._o q._n 12._o be_v it_o altogether_o and_o whole_o as_o necessary_a for_o we_o to_o believe_v in_o christ_n without_o we_o for_o our_o eternal_a salvation_n as_o to_o believe_v in_o his_o spiritual_a light_n within_o we_o and_o be_v not_o the_o faith_n in_o the_o man_n christ_n as_o he_o die_v for_o our_o sin_n and_z rise_v again_o and_o be_v at_o the_o right_a hand_n of_o god_n and_o make_v intercession_n for_o we_o according_a to_o rom._n 8._o 34._o necessary_a to_o be_v preach_v frequent_o as_o well_o as_o his_o inward_a appearance_n by_o every_o true_a minister_n of_o christ_n a._n we_o believe_v as_o in_o our_o answser_n to_o the_o second_o query_n that_o it_o be_v altogether_o necessary_a for_o we_o to_o believe_v in_o christ_n without_o we_o for_o our_o eternal_a salvation_n where_o the_o mean_n of_o the_o knowledge_n thereof_o can_v be_v have_v and_o also_o that_o the_o faith_n in_o the_o man_n christ_n jesus_n as_o he_o die_v for_o our_o sin_n and_z rise_v again_o and_o be_v at_o the_o right_a hand_n of_o god_n etc._n etc._n be_v necessary_a to_o be_v preach_v by_o all_o true_a minister_n as_o they_o be_v lead_v thereunto_o by_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n and_o which_o be_v frequent_o practise_v among_o we_o as_o may_v be_v witness_v by_o such_o as_o come_v to_o our_o meeting_n according_a to_o 1_o cor._n 1._o 23._o r._n the_o limitation_n in_o this_o answer_n be_v useless_a for_o i_o speak_v only_o of_o such_o as_o have_v the_o mean_n and_o as_o to_o our_o faith_n in_o christ_n without_o we_o r._n bs._n say_v in_o pag._n 9_o of_o his_o work_n and_o whereas_o thou_o say_v you_o see_v the_o apostle_n judge_n the_o knowledge_n of_o christ_n crucified_a to_o be_v that_o one_o thing_n necessary_a we_o deny_v say_v r._n b._n that_o the_o knowledge_n of_o his_o be_v outward_o crucify_a be_v that_o one_o thing_n necessary_a for_o people_n must_v know_v he_o in_o they_o and_o as_o a_o confirmation_n of_o this_o in_o the_o second_o proposition_n of_o his_o apology_n page_n 269._o he_o say_v which_o revelation_n of_o god_n by_o the_o spirit_n whither_o by_o outward_a voice_n or_o appearance_n dream_n or_o inward_a objective_n manifestation_n in_o the_o heart_n be_v of_o old_a the_o formal_a object_n of_o their_o faith_n and_o remain_v yet_o so_o to_o be_v since_o the_o object_n of_o the_o saint_n faith_n be_v the_o same_o in_o all_o age_n and_o in_o consequence_n to_o this_o last_o part_n he_o say_v pag._n 279._o that_o which_o now_o come_v under_o debait_n be_v what_o we_o have_v assert_v in_o the_o last_o place_n viz._n that_o the_o same_o continue_v to_o be_v the_o object_n of_o the_o saint_n faith_n to_o this_o day_n etc._n etc._n here_o be_v not_o one_o word_n of_o faith_n in_o christ_n without_o we_o but_o on_o the_o contrary_a the_o formal_a object_n of_o the_o saint_n faith_n in_o all_o age_n be_v inward_a revelation_n and_o the_o light_n within_o g._n f._n say_v in_o his_o great_a mystery_n p._n 47._o the_o light_n which_o every_o one_o have_v that_o come_v into_o the_o world_n be_v sufficient_a unto_o salvation_n without_o the_o help_n of_o any_o other_o mean_n or_o discovery_n w._n p._n say_v quakerism_n a_o new_a nickname_n pag._n 12._o and_o since_o they_o believe_v that_o outward_a appearance_n i._n e._n jesus_n at_o jerusalem_n they_o need_v not_o preach_v what_o be_v not_o to_o be_v again_o so_o then_o by_o this_o the_o birth_n life_n and_o death_n etc._n etc._n of_o the_o holy_a jesus_n need_v not_o to_o be_v preach_v and_o indeed_o a_o great_a deal_n of_o the_o bible_n be_v to_o be_v lay_v aside_o and_o not_o preach_v according_a to_o this_o maxim_n of_o w._n ps._n and_o w_n bailie_n a_o ancient_a writer_n among_o they_o say_v see_v his_o goll_n p._n 308._o and_o so_o he_o teach_v they_o to_o pray_o our_o father_n etc._n etc._n not_o to_o look_v at_o his_o person_n and_o to_o pray_v to_o he_o as_o a_o person_n without_o they_o but_o bid_v they_o pray_v to_o the_o father_n then_o by_o the_o same_o rule_n if_o not_o pray_v to_o he_o we_o be_v not_o to_o believe_v in_o he_o as_o a_o person_n without_o we_o but_o the_o reader_n may_v observe_v that_o however_o orthodox_n a._n j._n etc._n etc._n seem_v to_o be_v in_o their_o answer_n in_o affirm_v that_o faith_n in_o the_o man_n christ_n jesus_n as_o he_o die_v etc._n etc._n where_o the_o mean_n of_o the_o knowledge_n thereof_o can_v be_v have_v &c_n &c_n be_v necessary_a to_o be_v preach_v by_o all_o true_a minister_n yet_o it_o be_v with_o this_o proviso_n as_o they_o be_v lead_v thereunto_o by_o the_o spirit_n which_o clause_n seem_v to_o destroy_v that_o obligation_n which_o immediate_o before_o they_o have_v acknowledge_v for_o suppose_v any_o or_o all_o the_o preacher_n among_o the_o quaker_n be_v indifferent_a in_o this_o matter_n and_o so_o quite_o neglect_v as_o general_o they_o do_v preach_v the_o necessity_n of_o faith_n in_o the_o man_n christ_n without_o we_o here_o be_v a_o shift_n ready_a they_o may_v plead_v this_o for_o their_o excuse_n and_o say_v they_o be_v not_o lead_v thereunto_o by_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n q_o 13._o do_v you_o believe_v that_o all_o that_o be_v save_v in_o any_o age_n of_o the_o world_n have_v their_o sin_n forgive_v they_o for_o the_o man_n christ_n jesus_n his_o sake_n and_o on_o the_o account_n of_o his_o most_o holy_a and_o perfect_a obedience_n unto_o death_n and_o that_o what_o light_n and_o grace_n all_o man_n ever_o receive_v from_o god_n in_o former_a age_n or_o now_o receive_v or_o shall_v she_o after_o receive_v to_o the_o world_n end_n it_o be_v give_v to_o man_n for_o the_o man_n christ_n jesus_n his_o sake_n by_o his_o purchase_n and_o merit_n and_o continual_a mediation_n and_o intercession_n a._n we_o answer_v affirmative_o and_o firm_o believe_v it_o act_n 4._o