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of_o your_o profession_n shall_v be_v ignorant_a in_o the_o nature_n and_o definition_n of_o a_o sacrament_n a_o sacrament_n i_o mean_v not_o in_o the_o large_a signification_n but_o as_o it_o be_v proper_o use_v and_o as_o we_o call_v the_o lord_n supper_n and_o baptism_n sacrament_n for_o sacrament_n in_o the_o proper_a signification_n be_v mystical_a sign_n ordain_v by_o god_n himself_o consist_v in_o the_o word_n of_o sacrament_n the_o proper_a signification_n of_o sacrament_n god_n in_o figure_n and_o in_o thing_n signify_v whereby_o he_o keep_v in_o man_n memory_n and_o sometime_o renu_v his_o large_a benefit_n bestow_v upon_o his_o church_n whereby_o also_o he_o seal_v or_o assure_v his_o promise_n and_o show_v outward_o and_o as_o it_o be_v lay_v before_o our_o eye_n those_o thing_n to_o behold_v which_o inward_o he_o work_v in_o we_o yea_o by_o they_o he_o strengthen_v and_o increase_v our_o faith_n by_o the_o holy_a ghost_n work_v in_o our_o heart_n and_o to_o be_v short_a 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can_v read_v of_o but_o cross_v in_o baptise_v have_v wherefore_o that_o be_v to_o invent_v a_o new_a ceremony_n and_o this_o be_v to_o retain_v the_o old_a so_o that_o the_o reason_n of_o their_o allegory_n and_o of_o this_o ceremony_n be_v not_o like_a of_o refuse_v isle_n in_o baptism_n the_o church_n have_v just_a cause_n and_o it_o use_v her_o liberty_n in_o retain_v cross_v neither_o will_v it_o burden_v the_o sacrament_n with_o a_o multitude_n of_o unnecessary_a and_o unprofitable_a ceremony_n and_o yet_o retain_v such_o as_o shall_v be_v think_v most_o convenient_a chap._n 3._o the._n 7._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 137._o lin._n 3._o and_o to_o conclude_v i_o see_v no_o cause_n why_o some_o cross_n shall_v be_v unlawefull_a and_o other_o some_o commendable_a and_o why_o it_o shall_v be_v a_o monument_n of_o popery_n in_o wood_n and_o metal_n and_o yet_o a_o christian_a badge_n in_o the_o forehead_n of_o a_o man_n why_o we_o shall_v not_o like_o of_o it_o in_o street_n and_o hyghewaye_n and_o yet_o allow_v of_o it_o in_o the_o church_n io._n whitgifte_n as_o there_o be_v great_a difference_n betwixt_o the_o paint_n of_o a_o image_n to_o set_v forth_o a_o history_n and_o place_v of_o it_o in_o the_o church_n to_o be_v worship_v so_o be_v there_o also_o as_o great_a difference_n or_o more_o betwixt_o cross_v a_o child_n in_o the_o forehead_n at_o the_o time_n of_o baptism_n with_o express_v the_o cause_n and_o use_v of_o it_o and_o the_o place_n of_o cross_n in_o church_n or_o highway_n and_o street_n the_o cross_v of_o the_o child_n forehead_n be_v but_o for_o a_o moment_n the_o cross_n of_o wood_n and_o stone_n remain_v and_o continue_v the_o cross_n in_o the_o child_n forehead_n be_v not_o make_v to_o be_v adore_v and_o worship_v neither_o be_v ever_o any_o man_n so_o mad_a as_o to_o imagine_v any_o such_o thing_n of_o it_o but_o the_o cross_n in_o church_n street_n and_o highway_n of_o mettle_n and_o wood_n be_v erect_v to_o be_v worship_v and_o be_v so_o according_o and_o therefore_o there_o be_v no_o like_a peril_n in_o the_o one_o as_o there_o be_v in_o the_o other_o ¶_o of_o the_o party_n that_o be_v to_o be_v baptize_v chap._n 4._o the_o first_o division_n admonition_n ▪_o that_o the_o party_n to_o be_v baptize_v if_o they_o be_v of_o the_o year_n of_o 6._o of_o math._n 6._o discretion_n by_o themselves_o and_o in_o their_o own_o person_n or_o if_o they_o be_v infant_n by_o their_o parent_n in_o who_o rooine_n if_o upon_o necessary_a occasion_n they_o be_v absent_a some_o one_o of_o the_o congregation_n know_v the_o good_a behaviour_n and_o sound_n faith_n of_o the_o par_fw-fr tes_z may_z both_o make_v rehearsal_n if_o their_o faith_n and_o also_o if_o their_o faith_n be_v sound_o &_o agreeable_a to_o holy_a scripture_n desire_v to_o be_v in_o the_o same_o baptise_a and_o final_o that_o nothing_o be_v do_v in_o this_o or_o any_o other_o thing_n but_o that_o which_o you_o have_v the_o express_a warrant_n of_o god_n word_n for_o answer_v to_o the_o admonition_n pag._n 111._o sect._n 1._o 2._o i_o muse_v what_o you_o mean_v to_o say_v on_o this_o sort_n the_o party_n to_o be_v baptize_v baptize_v of_o those_o that_o be_v to_o be_v baptize_v if_o they_o be_v of_o the_o year_n of_o discretion_n etc._n etc._n you_o know_v that_o in_o this_o church_n of_o england_n none_o tarry_v for_o baptism_n so_o long_o except_o it_o be_v in_o some_o secret_a congregation_n of_o anabaptiste_n the_o place_n allege_v out_o of_o the_o three_o of_o matthew_n tell_v how_o they_o that_o be_v baptize_v confess_v their_o sin_n it_o speak_v nothing_o of_o any_o confession_n of_o faith_n it_o be_v well_o that_o you_o admit_v some_o to_o answer_v for_o the_o infant_n in_o the_o child_n of_o the_o parent_n answer_v or_o their_o child_n absence_n of_o the_o parent_n and_o why_o not_o in_o his_o presence_n to_o what_o scripture_n have_v you_o that_o the_o parent_n at_o the_o baptise_v of_o his_o child_n shall_v make_v a_o rehearsal_n of_o his_o faith_n and_o desire_v that_o his_o child_n shall_v be_v therein_o baptize_v this_o i_o desire_v to_o know_v for_o my_o own_o learning_n for_o i_o neither_o remember_v any_o such_o thing_n in_o scripture_n neither_o yet_o in_o any_o ancient_a writer_n i_o do_v herein_o but_o desire_n to_o be_v instruct_v t._n c._n pag._n 139._o lin._n 6._o and_o because_o i_o will_v have_v all_o those_o thing_n together_o that_o touch_v this_o matter_n of_o baptisine_n i_o come_v to_o that_o which_o he_o have_v in_o the_o next_o section_n and_o in_o iii_o page_n where_o after_o his_o old_a manner_n he_o wrangle_v and_o quarrel_v for_o although_o the_o admonition_n speak_v so_o plain_o and_o so_o clear_o that_o as_o hesiod_n say_v it_o may_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d satisfy_v momus_n yet_o m._n doctor_n go_v about_o there_o to_o bring_v it_o in_o suspicion_n of_o anabaptisme_n because_o allow_v in_o plain_a word_n the_o baptism_n of_o infant_n they_o add_v that_o if_o the_o party_n be_v of_o discretion_n and_o year_n themselves_o in_o their_o own_o person_n shall_v demand_v to_o be_v baptize_v for_o say_v he_o in_o this_o church_n they_o tarry_v not_o for_o baptism_n so_o long_o but_o be_v there_o no_o cause_n or_o may_v there_o not_o be_v when_o they_o that_o be_v of_o age_n may_v be_v baptize_v it_o may_v be_v there_o be_v jew_n in_o england_n which_o understand_v their_o blindness_n and_o confess_v their_o sin_n may_v desire_v to_o be_v baptize_v and_o here_o be_v dyvers_a moor_n in_o noble_a man_n &_o gentleman_n house_n which_o be_v sometime_o bring_v to_o the_o knowledge_n of_o christ_n whereby_o the_o re_fw-mi be_v some_o use_n and_o practice_v of_o this_o case_n io._n whitgifte_n anabaptisme_n be_v so_o crafty_a a_o heresy_n that_o it_o dissemble_v many_o thing_n until_o it_o heresy_n anabaptisme_n a_o crafty_a heresy_n have_v sufficient_a aid_n a_o man_n can_v not_o be_v to_o suspicious_a of_o it_o especial_o in_o those_o that_o walk_v in_o step_n so_o like_a unto_o it_o and_o yet_o i_o speak_v nothing_o in_o that_o place_n that_o may_v bring_v the_o a_o thour_n of_o the_o admonition_n into_o suspicion_n of_o anabaptisme_n unless_o they_o suspect_v themselves_o or_o that_o you_o will_v have_v they_o suspect_v for_o you_o know_v the_o old_a proverb_n conscius_fw-la ipse_fw-la sibi_fw-la etc._n etc._n it_o may_v be_v in_o deed_n that_o there_o be_v jew_n in_o england_n &_o moor_n &_o turk_n 〈◊〉_d and_o that_o some_o of_o they_o be_v convert_v to_o the_o faith_n be_v afterward_o baptize_v and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d it_o be_v so_o but_o the_o case_n be_v very_o rare_a and_o there_o be_v no_o man_n that_o doubt_v but_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o be_v examine_v in_o their_o faith_n before_o they_o be_v admit_v to_o
39_o c._n sault_n that_o he_o be_v to_o be_v put_v away_o from_o the_o partake_n of_o the_o prayer_n of_o the_o church_n and_o from_o all_o holy_a matter_n or_o affair_n there_o do_v bear_v rule_n or_o be_v president_n certain_a of_o the_o most_o approve_a auncientes_n or_o elder_n which_o have_v obtain_v this_o honour_n not_o by_o money_n but_o by_o good_a report_n io._n whitgifte_n here_o you_o have_v separate_v those_o thing_n which_o tertullian_n have_v join_v and_o you_o join_v together_o in_o one_o sentence_n that_o which_o tertullian_n have_v separate_v for_o thus_o he_o write_v and_o it_o be_v a_o great_a argument_n and_o example_n of_o the_o latter_a judgement_n if_o any_o man_n 39_o tertull._n in_o apolog_n cap._n 39_o have_v so_o offend_v that_o he_o be_v banish_v from_o the_o communication_n of_o prayer_n of_o company_n and_o of_o all_o holy_a affair_n here_o tertullian_n make_v a_o full_a point_n and_o begin_v a_o new_a sentence_n he_o say_v approve_v senior_n have_v authority_n to_o rule_v which_o have_v obtain_v this_o honour_n not_o by_o money_n but_o by_o a_o good_a report_n etc._n etc._n and_o these_o word_n be_v so_o distinguish_v from_o the_o other_o that_o b._n rhenanus_fw-la place_v his_o commentary_n betwixt_o they_o and_o yet_o you_o join_v they_o with_o a_o piece_n of_o the_o former_a sentence_n which_o you_o have_v also_o mangle_v and_o so_o make_v as_o though_o tertullian_n shall_v say_v that_o these_o senior_n do_v excommunicate_v where_o as_o there_o can_v no_o such_o matter_n be_v gather_v of_o his_o word_n for_o there_o be_v other_o point_n of_o discipline_n for_o they_o to_o execute_v and_o other_o matter_n of_o government_n to_o look_v unto_o and_o he_o that_o shall_v well_o weigh_v the_o word_n of_o tertullian_n shall_v perceyve_v that_o he_o mean_v by_o these_o approve_a elder_n none_o other_o but_o minister_n which_o do_v govern_v the_o congregation_n when_o they_o come_v together_o to_o prayer_n and_o other_o holy_a action_n the_o whole_a order_n whereof_o he_o do_v in_o that_o place_n describe_v but_o be_v it_o that_o they_o have_v to_o do_v also_o in_o excommunication_n which_o i_o will_v not_o deny_v for_o i_o do_v never_o so_o give_v the_o authority_n of_o excommunicate_v to_o the_o bishop_n alone_o that_o he_o the_o bishop_n may_v have_v assistance_n join_v with_o he_o i_o think_v he_o may_v not_o have_v other_o assistance_n join_v unto_o he_o for_o the_o execution_n of_o it_o if_o the_o order_n of_o the_o church_n so_o require_v yet_o this_o prove_v not_o but_o that_o the_o bishop_n may_v excommunicate_v alone_o if_o that_o authority_n be_v give_v unto_o he_o by_o the_o order_n of_o the_o church_n this_o place_n rather_o make_v against_o you_o for_o first_o it_o be_v like_a that_o these_o senior_n be_v minister_n of_o the_o word_n and_o sacrament_n than_o it_o be_v certain_a that_o the_o multitude_n have_v not_o to_o do_v in_o the_o execution_n of_o this_o disciplyne_n which_o you_o labour_n to_o prove_v there_o can_v no_o great_a certaynetie_n be_v gather_v of_o this_o place_n whether_o one_o or_o more_o do_v excommunicate_a except_o you_o will_v also_o conclude_v that_o churchewarden_n and_o sideman_n because_o they_o be_v officer_n to_o see_v good_a rule_n keep_v in_o the_o church_n have_v interest_n in_o excommunication_n together_o with_o the_o bishop_n wherefore_o i_o do_v require_v a_o more_o manyfeste_a proof_n of_o you_o for_o this_o place_n may_v with_o more_o probability_n be_v otherwise_o expound_v and_o therefore_o enforce_v nothing_o chap._n 1._o the._n 17._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 149._o towards_o the_o end_n and_o that_o the_o auncientes_n have_v the_o order_n of_o these_o thing_n and_o the_o people_n consent_n be_v require_v and_o that_o if_o the_o case_n be_v a_o very_a difficulte_n case_n it_o be_v refer_v unto_o the_o synod_n or_o counsel_n and_o that_o the_o minister_n do_v not_o take_v upon_o they_o of_o their_o own_o authority_n to_o excommunicate_v and_o that_o those_o which_o do_v receyve_v the_o excommunicate_a without_o the_o knowledge_n and_o consent_n ep_v lib._n 3._o ep_v 8._o 10._o 14._o 19_o 1._o lib._n 3._o ep_v of_o the_o church_n be_v reprehend_v it_o may_v appear_v almost_o in_o every_o page_n of_o cyprian_n epistle_n and_o namely_o in_o these_o which_o i_o have_v note_v in_o the_o margin_n io._n whitgifte_n thus_o you_o drive_v i_o to_o seek_v that_o which_o in_o those_o epistle_n by_o you_o quote_v i_o can_v not_o find_v how_o much_o better_a deal_n have_v it_o be_v to_o have_v set_v down_o the_o word_n of_o cyprian_a that_o they_o may_v have_v be_v view_v and_o consider_v in_o the._n 8._o epistle_n of_o the_o third_o book_n cyprian_n do_v find_v himself_o gréen_v with_o one_o therapius_n because_o he_o give_v peace_n to_o one_o victor_n a_o priest_n before_o he_o have_v show_v himself_o full_o repentant_a and_o have_v satisfy_v for_o his_o offence_n before_o also_o the_o time_n be_v come_v appoint_v unto_o he_o to_o make_v satisfaction_n likewise_o without_o the_o request_n and_o knowledge_n of_o the_o people_n whereby_o it_o appear_v that_o therapius_n do_v absolve_v victor_n before_o the_o time_n appoint_v and_o secret_o without_o the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o people_n but_o this_o prove_v not_o your_o purpose_n therapius_n be_v just_o reprove_v for_o break_v the_o order_n appoint_v by_o the_o church_n and_o for_o absolve_a victor_n before_o his_o time_n and_o in_o a_o corner_n without_o the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o people_n but_o this_o prove_v not_o that_o the_o byshoppe_n may_v not_o excommunicate_v but_o the_o contrary_a rather_o for_o cyprian_a in_o the_o end_n think_v this_o absolution_n to_o be_v sufficient_a as_o it_o appear_v in_o these_o word_n but_o weygh_v the_o matter_n by_o long_a advice_n it_o seem_v sufficient_a to_o chide_v our_o fellow_n 8._o lib._n 3._o epi._n 8._o therapius_n for_o that_o he_o do_v this_o thing_n unaduisedlye_o and_o to_o have_v instruct_v he_o that_o hereafter_o he_o commit_v not_o the_o like_a but_o yet_o we_o think_v not_o good_a to_o withdraw_v the_o peace_n which_o be_v once_o give_v howesoever_o of_o a_o priest_n of_o god_n and_o for_o this_o cause_n we_o have_v permit_v unto_o victor_n to_o use_v the_o communion_n deliver_v unto_o he_o whereby_o it_o be_v manyfeste_a that_o the_o absolution_n of_o therapius_n be_v think_v good_a and_o that_o he_o have_v authority_n to_o absolve_v alone_o but_o that_o it_o be_v do_v not_o according_a to_o the_o order_n then_o in_o the_o church_n appoint_v in_o the_o ten_o epistle_n there_o be_v nothing_o speak_v of_o excommunication_n or_o absolution_n 10._o epist._n 10._o only_a cyprian_n say_v that_o he_o make_v no_o answer_n to_o the_o letter_n of_o donatus_n and_o novatus_fw-la and_o gordius_n because_o at_o his_o first_o entrance_n into_o his_o bishopryke_n he_o have_v determine_v to_o do_v nothing_o without_o their_o council_n meaning_n the_o priest_n and_o deacon_n to_o who_o he_o write_v and_o without_o the_o consent_n of_o the_o people_n what_o can_v you_o conclude_v hereof_o touch_v excommunication_n cyprian_a here_o show_v himself_o to_o have_v jurisdiction_n over_o other_o church_n and_o authority_n over_o other_o minister_n and_o that_o he_o will_v do_v nothing_o in_o doubtful_a matter_n in_o their_o church_n without_o the_o consent_n of_o the_o minister_n and_o people_n but_o this_o be_v nothing_o toiuchng_v excommunication_n neither_o do_v it_o prove_v but_o that_o he_o may_v do_v thing_n without_o their_o consente_n for_o why_o shall_v he_o else_o say_v statui_fw-la i_o have_v determine_v signify_v thereby_o that_o it_o be_v in_o his_o power_n to_o do_v otherwise_o if_o he_o will_v in_o the._n 14._o epistle_n he_o reprove_v certain_a priest_n for_o receyve_n into_o the_o church_n 14._o epist._n 14._o without_o the_o consent_n of_o their_o bishop_n such_o as_o have_v fall_v in_o the_o time_n of_o persecution_n and_o that_o before_o they_o have_v any_o 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